Author Topic: Well this at least settles one aspect of Dorian vs. Ronnie..... (Read 3159 times)

Palpatine Q · « **on:** October 01, 2006, 11:58:12 AM »

While thier physical attributes are still debatable, Dorian now has the upper hand on two fronts......

A : Brains, he knew when it was time to go.

B : He never lost an O

Royalty · « **Reply #1 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:04:08 PM »

Quote from: Groink on October 01, 2006, 11:58:12 AM

While thier physical attributes are still debatable, Dorian now has the upper hand on two fronts......

A : Brains, he knew when it was time to go.

B : He never lost an O

he lost in 1991 to haney

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #2 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:06:04 PM »

Quote from: Royalty on October 01, 2006, 12:04:08 PM

he lost in 1991 to haney

I meant AS Mr. Olympia....should have clarified.

tweeter · « **Reply #3 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:11:23 PM »

Has a Mr. Olympia ever lost an Olympia and then regained the title?

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #4 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:17:13 PM »

Quote from: tweeter on October 01, 2006, 12:11:23 PM

Has a Mr. Olympia ever lost an Olympia and then regained the title?

No !

kyomu · « **Reply #5 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:17:56 PM »

Quote from: Groink on October 01, 2006, 11:58:12 AM

While thier physical attributes are still debatable, Dorian now has the upper hand on two fronts......

A : Brains, he knew when it was time to go.

B : He never lost an O

Yes before he retired, He must felt the menace of Nasser. Cus he was growing and growing and always owned Dorian from the front. And Dorian was his limit.

Ronnie also. He was not untouchable last year. Jay was approaching.
Ronnie should have listened to the sound of feet of Jay last year.

Parker · « **Reply #6 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:23:56 PM »

Yeah, Dorian had half a bicep missing, but they still gave it to him. It wasn't until he tore his tricep, that he called quits.

cqfd · « **Reply #7 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:36:45 PM »

What's better, win 6 olympias and leave undefeated or win 8 ones and being beat?

Parker · « **Reply #8 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:40:43 PM »

Quote from: cqfd on October 01, 2006, 12:36:45 PM

What's better, win 6 olympias and leave undefeated or win 8 ones and being beat?

Depends on how one looks at it. Winning six and getting out for your own ego, knowing that you might be beat, or rolling the dice one more time. If you are beaten, you are passing the "crown". Of course leaving on one's own accord is a good thing as well, or as I stated is it good for the ego.

Bluto · « **Reply #9 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:41:52 PM »

8 is good for the bank account.

HERACLES · « **Reply #10 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:43:08 PM »

Quote from: Groink on October 01, 2006, 11:58:12 AM

While thier physical attributes are still debatable, Dorian now has the upper hand on two fronts......

A : Brains, he knew when it was time to go.

B : He never lost an O

I disagree,

Its ignorant for you to say Ronnie should of retired. You have to be blind if you think that he didnt belong up there, is that what your saying? After its been determined he beat himself, coming in too heavy?

Coleman is another level above yates.

Hulkster · « **Reply #11 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:47:15 PM »

Quote from: cqfd on October 01, 2006, 12:36:45 PM

What's better, win 6 olympias and leave undefeated or win 8 ones and being beat but also having won more professional titles than anyone else alive, including the Arnold Classic (as Mr. Olympia)?

fixed

Rich2 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:49:36 PM »

Quote from: cqfd on October 01, 2006, 12:36:45 PM

What's better, win 6 olympias and leave undefeated or win 8 ones and being beat?

if someone still has a competitive physique then why not compete? if Ronnie came back on 07' and won, i think that would make him greater than before (in that Ali kinda way).

kyomu · « **Reply #13 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:51:32 PM »

Quote from: Rich2 on October 01, 2006, 12:49:36 PM

if someone still has a competitive physique then why not compete? if Ronnie came back on 07' and won, i think that would make him greater than before (in that Ali kinda way).

The stress of preparation to their body is beyond your imagination.

Wiggs · « **Reply #14 on:** October 01, 2006, 01:05:48 PM »

I'd rather have 6 and be undefeated.

Hulkster · « **Reply #15 on:** October 01, 2006, 01:10:34 PM »

Quote from: Big_Wiggs on October 01, 2006, 01:05:48 PM

I'd rather have 6 and be undefeated.

I wouldn't - considering that one of my wins (1994) was the most contraversial and looked-down upon contest of the last 26 years.

swilkins1984 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 01, 2006, 01:14:35 PM »

Ronnie made it to number 8 and it would have been foolish to stop when he came so far. He suffered some injuries and competed in great shape but was beaten by a younger, better conditioned Jay Cutler. The same would have happeded between Haney and Dorian if Haney returned another year, and Dorian if he can back in 98.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #17 on:** October 01, 2006, 01:14:38 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on October 01, 2006, 01:10:34 PM

I wouldn't - considering that one of my wins (1994) was the most contraversial and looked-down upon contest of the last 26 years.

LMFAO not even close 2001/2002 were travisties compared to 94 the only controversy is with Hulkster in 2006

Rich2 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 01, 2006, 01:19:16 PM »

Quote from: kyomu on October 01, 2006, 12:51:32 PM

The stress of preparation to their body is beyond your imagination.

um...thanks for the newsflash.

if he wants to compete, let him compete. JESUS!

knny187 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 01, 2006, 01:27:13 PM »

Quote from: Groink on October 01, 2006, 11:58:12 AM

While thier physical attributes are still debatable, Dorian now has the upper hand on two fronts......

A : Brains, he knew when it was time to go.

B : He never lost an O

Maybe Ronnie never sucked the pole like Dorian did

Hulkster · « **Reply #20 on:** October 01, 2006, 01:36:57 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2006, 01:14:38 PM

LMFAO not even close 2001/2002 were travisties compared to 94 the only controversy is with Hulkster in 2006

you are the only one who has ever seen the pics and videos from that contest and not thought it was contraversial

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #21 on:** October 01, 2006, 01:42:37 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on October 01, 2006, 01:36:57 PM

you are the only one who has ever seen the pics and videos from that contest and not thought it was contraversial

You're the only one who thinks its worse than 2001/2002 and it was even close on the score cards ! Shawn Ray said he felt he got the place he deserved , no controversy just bitter people.

nicorulez · « **Reply #22 on:** October 01, 2006, 02:13:00 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2006, 12:17:13 PM

No !

ND, didn't Arnold lose to Oliva and then beat him later. I may be mistaken, but I thought he lost once to the Oak.

pobrecito · « **Reply #23 on:** October 01, 2006, 02:15:38 PM »

on a side note, I am rewatching the 98 Olympia. It's amazing how much Ronnie has fallen off. Also, the field at the 2006 olympia was truly sad, nobody stood out at all. 98 was amazing.

nicorulez · « **Reply #24 on:** October 01, 2006, 02:24:45 PM »

Agreed Pobrecito, the competitors this year looked like ass. Anyone who thinks Jay is better than his 2001 form is delusional. He was bigger, but he looked awful. Ronnie was atrocious. Worst I have ever seen a standing Mr. Olympia show up; Dorian in 1994 was a cut diamond compared to this turd. I am disappointed that Ronnie had so many losers filling his head full of shit. If he would have come into the show in condition at 275 he would have won. Lights out for Team Coleman; I think I am joining the Team Vic squad as he looks like a Mr. Olympia in the making.