Another school shooting?

[Diesel1]

Just heard some news on the radio that there's been a shooting at a Hamish school in Pennsylvania with some casualties and at least one fatality. No other details than that 

[danielson]

Just heard some news on the radio that there's been a shooting at a Hamish school in Pennsylvania with some casualties and at least one fatality. No other details than that 

Yeah, I am watching that on Foxnews. They don't use electricity, but carry guns? it was a 1 room schoolhouse, many were killed, along with the shooter.

[Colossus_500]

Just read about that too.  It was an Amish school in Lancaster.  Evidently, the hostage-taker has been killed, but not before he shot up the students...even small children.   

[240 is Back]

should teachers with concealed weapons permits be allowed to carry on campus?  No one would ever know until the moment the teacher saved the day.  And if schools aren't going to pony up the money for security, what is the answer to this?

Granted, you can't search every kid every morning, so even with 10 cops to every school, the kid could ice half the class before Officer Playground arrived.

[danielson]

I am assuming they don't have metal detectors there?

[alexxx]

We just had one here 2 weeks ago in mcgill college. I used to pass by there all the time.

[240 is Back]

metal detectors are not a solution for weapons on campus.  They're very expensive, require a lot of add'l starff, and slow the flow of 1000+ kids entering a campus to a crawl.  It seriously takes 1+ hours to get everyone in.  

Plus, the parents bitch.

And, that only works if you have controlled entry points to the school.  A brick building with 4 doors.  On wide open campuses like you have in many southern states, you can walk onto campus from a million directions.  They don't even try metal detectors there.

[danielson]

metal detectors are not a solution for weapons on campus.  They're very expensive, require a lot of add'l starff, and slow the flow of 1000+ kids entering a campus to a crawl.  It seriously takes 1+ hours to get everyone in. 

Plus, the parents bitch.

And, that only works if you have controlled entry points to the school.  A brick building with 4 doors.  On wide open campuses like you have in many southern states, you can walk onto campus from a million directions.  They don't even try metal detectors there.

I meant cuz it was an amish school.

[alexxx]

Magnet walls are the solution!

[Diesel1]

I wonder if the shooter was a student or not.

The world is a seriously fucked up place if you can't even go to school without the risk of being shot to death.

[alexxx]

I wonder if the shooter was a student or not.

The world is a seriously fucked up place if you can't even go to school without the risk of being shot to death.

Hey blame the pirates for inventing the guns.

[anvil]

Maybe we just need nude schools, that way no one can hide weapons.

[Mr. Intenseone]

It's a conspiracy to deture from the elections !!

[240 is Back]

Mr I,

Are you expecting the Bush admin to drop any big surprises on us this year?

Also, did you find the 2004 bin laden tape, in which he endorsed John Kerry, released 2 days before the 2004 election, to be a little odd? 

[240 is Back]

It's a conspiracy to deture from the elections !!

I'm not claiming there is any conspiracy going on.

I do believe you'll hear new calls for gun control shortly.

The less guns out there when people realize 911 was an inside job, the better, right?

[240 is Back]

And I will say that it's odd that the last 2 shootings have been crazy older people who shoot kids, not kids shooting kids.

Today's was a crazy truck driver.  Last one was a loon who mailed a suicide note before attacking girls at a high school.

The reaction in the media is something to watch.  If the talking debate points in the next few days are "Should we get guns out of the hands of Americans?", you know something is up.  If the focus is, "what can we do to make schools safer", then it looks much less suspicious.

Despite the fact that I know Bush had prior knowledge of 911, I don't believe everything is a conspiracy.  But the way many nat'l tragedies are spun, you can sometimes see how the govt agendas are served.

[240 is Back]

In both cases, "he wanted to attack young female victims".

disturbing trend there.

[Diesel1]

3 girls dead and 7 injured so far.

Live press conference http://www.whptv.com//mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=53653

[Diesel1]

And I will say that it's odd that the last 2 shootings have been crazy older people who shoot kids, not kids shooting kids.

Today's was a crazy truck driver.  Last one was a loon who mailed a suicide note before attacking girls at a high school.

The reaction in the media is something to watch.  If the talking debate points in the next few days are "Should we get guns out of the hands of Americans?", you know something is up.  If the focus is, "what can we do to make schools safer", then it looks much less suspicious.

Despite the fact that I know Bush had prior knowledge of 911, I don't believe everything is a conspiracy.  But the way many nat'l tragedies are spun, you can sometimes see how the govt agendas are served.

Come on man, how the hell can you see a conspiracy in a sad event like this?

[danielson]

Amish people are good bowlers 

[240 is Back]

Come on man, how the hell can you see a conspiracy in a sad event like this?

I don't.

But IF the govt uses this to their own purposes, it should be noted.

It's a tragedy and I pray it's nothing more than a few crazy people and it ends.

But if politicians try cashing in on it - to win votes or to push legislation, I hope everyone sees through it, that's all.  I am sure it's a random thing.  But the way they USE this - we should watch.

[240 is Back]

I don't.
But IF the govt uses this to their own purposes, it should be noted.
It's a tragedy and I pray it's nothing more than a few crazy people and it ends.
But if politicians try cashing in on it - to win votes or to push legislation, I hope everyone sees through it, that's all.  I am sure it's a random thing.  But the way they USE this - we should watch.

And I say this, because

After waco and OKC, legislation was pushed for death penalty and to break up militias.
After columbine, monster gun control legislation.

You have to watch them.  There are a lot of ppl in washington right now, rubbing their brains together trying to think of ways to capitalize from this, can we agree to that much?

[danielson]

Charles Roberts did it.

[sgt. d]

These white people always shooting up schools then blaming it on video games, movies, or music. Im glad my kids are grown because I would be terrified with things that happen today.

[Diesel1]

I don't.

But IF the govt uses this to their own purposes, it should be noted.

It's a tragedy and I pray it's nothing more than a few crazy people and it ends.

But if politicians try cashing in on it - to win votes or to push legislation, I hope everyone sees through it, that's all.  I am sure it's a random thing.  But the way they USE this - we should watch.

I see, but of course the anti gun politicians will use this event to argue their case for gun control, and then the pro gun politicians and NRA stooges will argue against the antis and six months down the line people will have forgot about the little girls who were killed because they were to busy bickering about guns