BNBF Overall British Champ in Scary Condition

[jonno gb]

Here's proper condition for you-BNBF Heavyweight and Overall British Champion Alun Davies Apparently he dieted for 5 months on low carbs with 2 hours of cardio a day.

[smaul]

I know there is an obsession with showing shredded glutes but at least make a token effort to hide the f*cking crack!!! 

Excellent conditioning and size though!

[jude2]

The conditioning of natural BB is becoming unreal.  Better than the Juiced.

[jonno gb]

The conditioning of natural BB is becoming unreal.  Better than the Juiced.

Some assisted guys on a UK site agreed with you.They gave major props to naturals for achieving better condition if not the size and thickness.

[HFTrainer]

Astounding work. I'd like to have seen what he looked like before dieting.

[jonno gb]

Astounding work. I'd like to have seen what he looked like before dieting.

I would think he stays in fairly good shape year round-that discipline for you!

[ATHEIST]

There is no way that is natural right? seriously.

[brianX]

What a beast.

[jonno gb]

There is no way that is natural right? seriously.

The organisation he comes with is 7 years drug free.All competitors face polygraph and urine tests.I don't know the bloke though so couldn't say if he's lifetime natural or not.A number of British naturals achieve a similar level of condition but none with Alun's thickness and density.

[CQ]

There is no way that is natural right? seriously.

I highly doubt it

[Scimowser]

holy fuck! any more pics of him available? Theres no chance hes natural but that pic is astonishing!

[GoneAway]

As a natural, I love hearing ppl say "no way he's natural" since I want to show my pic eventually and get that same reaction. He looks amazing, but I think that's achievable for a natural. Can't say for sure, since I'm not in that condition myself.

[Vickymc]

To see more pics of Alun davis and all the other Britain competitors check out.

http://www.bnbf.co.uk/2006%20Britain%20report.htm

Vicky

[DVSGOD]

Apparently he dieted for 5 months on low carbs with 2 hours of cardio a day. Plus a diet of Winstrol,Mastron,Propinate and lots of fat burning compounds.

Sounds"more beleivable with my editing skills 

[Vickymc]

Here we go again!!! We polygraphed Alun before the show this year and last year, he has numerous drug tests and passed them all. Alun has trained for 25 years Naturally to get his physique to this level and someone like yourself comes along and slags off Aluns achievements. I take it his hard work and dedication is to much for you made up name, so instead of this driving you to work harder you would rather dis his achievements. Try training hard it works

[jonno gb]

Think there's a bit of jealousy going on here! I can't understand why there is a need to knock people's achievements rather than praising them for the years of consistent hard work that they put in.I think some respect should be given where it is due.

[Vickymc]

I agree Jon when soemone looks better than me I use them to fuel my training and contest prep dont just have a go at their natural status.

Get more positive guys use these winners to push you on!!!

[DVSGOD]

Jealousy? um no how about trying REALITY . 
Drug tests and polygraph tests are very easy to beat.You cannot test for GH ,is there a test for diuretics also?

You natural guys that run these bigger contests are truly living on another planet and as soon as someone points anything to the contary you call them jealous or a hater , you need a dose of reality.

Many so called natural champs have later gone on record as saying they are not indeed natural , how do you respond to them?.They use drugs that clear the system faster or cannot  be detected at all.Poly tests give me a break.

Sure there are some guys out there with outstanding genetics and they excel in this sport but to get that paper thin skin look with full muscles , chemical compounds are indeed used , dont kid your self.

Whats my online name got to do with anything?do you want to know my full name?il type it out for you if you like 
Having been involved in this sport for near on 20 years I dont know what is worse the doses of compounds that the big pros use or the delusion of the natural federations who sit back and pat each other on back claiming natural status of there athletes when in fact they are not natural

Heres a test for you ,next line up you scan your eyes over,the guy that looks the worse will be the most natural person there the guy who looks freaky and ungodly will be far from natural and if hes got a grin on his face like a cheshire cat thats just swallowed a canary , you know hes just passed the drug test and is thinking to himself , these natural federations are dumbasses

[jonno gb]

Have you ever been to a natural show?

[Vickymc]

Jon

He will not be worth bothering about. He will not be natural and not be able to comprehend the idea that someone good could indeed be natural. He either will not have the genics or work ethic to make it without drugs so believes no-one can. I am not niave enough to think no-one will try and cheat but I still think the vast majority of athletes competing in Natural shows are indeed natural. the ones who aren't are very sad individuals who like our friend above probably dont have what it takes to make it as a natural athlete.

You stick with your goals Jon as I will and leave these doubters to themselves amd there drugs.

Vicky

[legbreaker]

Jealousy? um no how about trying REALITY . 
Drug tests and polygraph tests are very easy to beat.You cannot test for GH ,is there a test for diuretics also?

You natural guys that run these bigger contests are truly living on another planet and as soon as someone points anything to the contary you call them jealous or a hater , you need a dose of reality.

Many so called natural champs have later gone on record as saying they are not indeed natural , how do you respond to them?.They use drugs that clear the system faster or cannot  be detected at all.Poly tests give me a break.

Sure there are some guys out there with outstanding genetics and they excel in this sport but to get that paper thin skin look with full muscles , chemical compounds are indeed used , dont kid your self.

Whats my online name got to do with anything?do you want to know my full name?il type it out for you if you like 
Having been involved in this sport for near on 20 years I dont know what is worse the doses of compounds that the big pros use or the delusion of the natural federations who sit back and pat each other on back claiming natural status of there athletes when in fact they are not natural

Heres a test for you ,next line up you scan your eyes over,the guy that looks the worse will be the most natural person there the guy who looks freaky and ungodly will be far from natural and if hes got a grin on his face like a cheshire cat thats just swallowed a canary , you know hes just passed the drug test and is thinking to himself , these natural federations are dumbasses

Very well said and 100% correct.  He clearly is NOT saying that every single natural competitor is using something, but for people to TRY over and over again to convince society that polygraphs are a useful tool when they do not even use them in law is just simply ridiculous.  Please open your eyes.  Claim natural is one thing but to say, "we poly and urine our people"...BIG DEAL...it means nothing...even if you urine your competitors every day of the year it means nothing because of gh, insulin, igf1...natural shows are UNFORTUNATELY a thing of the past EVEN THOUGH some are truely natural...Too many variables to make it legit and therfore it's basically a waste. 

I HAVE FRIENDS THAT HAVE USED LOTS OF GEAR IN NATURAL SHOWS!!!!!!!!  Like the guy above said, what is your response to that?  I, PERSONALLY, have had conversations about drugs with the owner of a VERY WELL KNOWN natural organization.  Please do not even ask me to name the org or the person because I won't.  Good for you for being natural, THAT is truely what BB is all about, However please do not bash the people that are not naive.  I saw on your site that you were in England, i believe.  Perhaps it's just simply ALOT diferent in the united states.   

[DVSGOD]

Jon

He will not be worth bothering about. He will not be natural and not be able to comprehend the idea that someone good could indeed be natural. He either will not have the genics or work ethic to make it without drugs so believes no-one can. I am not niave enough to think no-one will try and cheat but I still think the vast majority of athletes competing in Natural shows are indeed natural. the ones who aren't are very sad individuals who like our friend above probably dont have what it takes to make it as a natural athlete.

You stick with your goals Jon as I will and leave these doubters to themselves amd there drugs.

Vicky

Wrong yet again,Iv never used drugs.I do have average genetics I agree,Though Iv managed to get my arms to just under 19 inches while keeping my waist at 34 inches.If you call that a bad work ethic then you really are a deluded person.
These guys that are comming in at these so called big natural shows in unbeleivable condition that rival the condition (not size)of some of the guys from the Mr O 10 years ago , dont you find that strange?
I agree that supplements and exercise science has moved leaps and bounds in the last 10 years but not enough to get that freakish look with out some sort of chemical support.
The "Natural"guys of today are in better shape and leaner than many of the competitors from the 70s and 80s, guys that used Lots of drugs.It isnt genetics thats getting them there but drugs.These guys are the borderline genetic guys,they use drugs to get themselves into unreal condition that has them on par with competitors from the Mr O 10 years ago e.g lean and full but they lack that final x factor about there appearance so champion there natural status instead.
Tyroid,diuretics,GH are rive in natural competion or in your eyes are these ok becauase they are not AAS?  

Im affraid that you are living in a bubble , And Jon yes Iv been to natural tested shows.
Which brings up another point.Cost , drug testing , poly testing is very expensive not to mention testing for masking agents.
Do you think they test every single athlete at these shows? I doubt it it would be very costly.Then theres the stuff that cant be tested for.
I agree that the people that use drugs and then claim they are natural are very sad people.But on the oither hand I dont have a problem with people cycling drugs in sane amounts to help them acheive there goals once they have exausted there full natural potential , just dont claim you are natural when you are in fact not.

[Vickymc]

I HAVE FRIENDS THAT HAVE USED LOTS OF GEAR IN NATURAL SHOWS!!!!!!!!  Like the guy above said, what is your response to that?  I, PERSONALLY, have had conversations about drugs with the owner of a VERY WELL KNOWN natural organization.  Please do not even ask me to name the org or the person because I won't.  Good for you for being natural, THAT is truely what BB is all about, However please do not bash the people that are not naive.  I saw on your site that you were in England, i believe.  Perhaps it's just simply ALOT diferent in the united states.   

How come everyone knows someone who takes takes drugs and competes naturally but wont name names. I am not niave just think that too many people point fingers at anyone who looks good. Go on name names that might help keep the sport clean.

[Vickymc]

Wrong yet again,Iv never used drugs.I do have average genetics I agree,Though Iv managed to get my arms to just under 19 inches while keeping my waist at 34 inches.If you call that a bad work ethic then you really are a deluded person.
These guys that are comming in at these so called big natural shows in unbeleivable condition that rival the condition (not size)of some of the guys from the Mr O 10 years ago , dont you find that strange?
I agree that supplements and exercise science has moved leaps and bounds in the last 10 years but not enough to get that freakish look with out some sort of chemical support.
The "Natural"guys of today are in better shape and leaner than many of the competitors from the 70s and 80s, guys that used Lots of drugs.It isnt genetics thats getting them there but drugs.These guys are the borderline genetic guys,they use drugs to get themselves into unreal condition that has them on par with competitors from the Mr O 10 years ago e.g lean and full but they lack that final x factor about there appearance so champion there natural status instead.
Tyroid,diuretics,GH are rive in natural competion or in your eyes are these ok becauase they are not AAS?  

Im affraid that you are living in a bubble , And Jon yes Iv been to natural tested shows.
Which brings up another point.Cost , drug testing , poly testing is very expensive not to mention testing for masking agents.
Do you think they test every single athlete at these shows? I doubt it it would be very costly.Then theres the stuff that cant be tested for.
I agree that the people that use drugs and then claim they are natural are very sad people.But on the oither hand I dont have a problem with people cycling drugs in sane amounts to help them acheive there goals once they have exausted there full natural potential , just dont claim you are natural when you are in fact not.

19" arms with a 34" waist thats crap Nigel Davis had 19" arms with a 28" waist but hey he has good genetics. the BNBF polygraphs every competitor before the show and yeah you can say you can get through the test but would you be willing to take the chance I know I wouldnt. 

As for top naturals being in better shape & condition than the gear users of the past one supplementation is better but also the criteria has changed in years gone by the requirements for condition were not as important it was acceptable to enter show in a much softer shape. So dont use that as a comparison compare natural athletes of today with tested athletes today that is a true comparison. You are passing comment on a picture of a very small man in comparison to top non tested bodybuilders.

My bubble burst years ago I though you got respect for being a successful natural but no you just get the usual disbelief.

You are as sad as the cheats as your attitude is what distroys natural bodybuilding

[DVSGOD]

19" arms with a 34" waist thats crap Nigel Davis had 19" arms with a 28" waist but hey he has good genetics. the BNBF polygraphs every competitor before the show and yeah you can say you can get through the test but would you be willing to take the chance I know I wouldnt. 

As for top naturals being in better shape & condition than the gear users of the past one supplementation is better but also the criteria has changed in years gone by the requirements for condition were not as important it was acceptable to enter show in a much softer shape. So dont use that as a comparison compare natural athletes of today with tested athletes today that is a true comparison. You are passing comment on a picture of a very small man in comparison to top non tested bodybuilders.

My bubble burst years ago I though you got respect for being a successful natural but no you just get the usual disbelief.

You are as sad as the cheats as your attitude is what distroys natural bodybuilding

Like I said I dont have great genetics and have trained hard for over 15 odd years trying to work 50 plus hours a week and am also a diabetic.When i first started my arms were a whoping 10 inches and I weighed 59kg.
To me bodybuilding is about goal setting and a healthy lifestyle , am i ripped to shreds?hell no but im extremly muscular and solid,Im a real deal natural but dont wear it on my sleave as its some great acheivment, though to myself im very proud of what iv done.
How can you say im as sad as the cheats?all im doing is pointing out the real situation , you seem hell bent on shutting your eyes and not wanting to look at the real situation or listen.
My comparison of past champs compared to current ""natural"champs is very relavent , i really dont think you understand what im saying here.
Once you get up up into the higher"natural"comps drugs are widely used , this is fact but you dont want to beleive this , its people like you that are the problem with natural bodybuilding as you see the world through star coloured glasses.Reality is lost on people like you.and until you can see whats really going on under your own nose it will remail a sad state that it finds itself in today