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Re: New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2006, 09:49:26 PM »
REALLY?  Where did you hear?

FOX news - at 12 am, right before Brit HUme came on -

they showed the AIM screen all blurred.  it was the live, every 30 minute update.  Not on their wesite yet.  I'm waiting to see if they show it again in 11 minutes, at the top of the hour

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Re: New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2006, 04:50:03 AM »
in FL, it's 18.

Also, Foley's atty just had a press conference.  Blamed a touchy priest, 30+ years ago, for the actions.

What a fcuking douche.

I hope they bury Foley alive.

Had he come out and admitted to it, taken full responsibility, then perhaps I'd have a different opinion.



If he broke the law, then he's a criminal.

The fact that he's got a love affair doesn't make him a criminal IMO though. If in fact the guy is under legal age , he is.

If the legal age is different for gay sex, then there's something very fcuked up, I'll tell you that.

Side note: IMO, as an adult, you shouldn't be having sex with people who are under the age of 18.

It might be legal, but it's still not... it just ain't right IMO.

Still, this is the guy the voters wanted to represent them. As long as he doesn't do anything criminal, he can do whatever he wants.

His chances of getting re-elected are slim if he chooses to not take part in his duties as a congressman, but that's his call.

The media caught him - good job.

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Re: New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2006, 05:04:32 AM »
Hedgehog, I think the age is irrelevant. They could be 18 or even 21, but if you are the mature adult, and despite their chronological age, they're still a child, ...I don't think you should be messing with it. Sex and sexuality go beyond the mere physical. There are a whole set of emotional considerations that should be considered before going down that road. Now if you're selfish or have psychopathic tendences, ...there are no self-imposed barriers, ...but if you have integrity and love, both for yourself as well as another, you won't take advantage or exploit them like that. You'll be compelled to follow a higher standard for yourself.

The IM's are just pouring in from Congressional pages - I hear the number of different IM's is up to 52 now.
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Re: New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2006, 05:11:31 AM »
If there is anyone who should be burned for this, it's the guy who didn't go public when he was informed, Hastert.

That's totally inexcusable.

Not only was he jeopardising the future of his Party, because the Republicans will take a hit for him keeping this lowprofiled, but more importantly, he was ignoring the well-being of a minor.

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Re: New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2006, 05:45:00 AM »
Sounds like this has been an on-going issue for quite some time, and LOTS of Washington's finest (I use this term loosely). No wonder we can't get any moral issue votes passed between congress and the senate.   >:(   One thing I will say though, if Michelle Malkin was approached when she was an intern, why didn't she say something about it?

by Michelle Malkin
It's the Predation, Stupid
October 03, 2006 06:10 PM EST

 
Washington is embroiled in another sex scandal. A sure-bet win for the Republicans in Florida is now imperiled. The Dems look to be one seat closer to regaining control of the House. But the latest one involving disgraced GOP Congressman Mark Foley's predatory emails and lecherous instant-message exchanges is more than just a political nightmare.

It's a parental nightmare.

Foley's targets were underage high school students serving as congressional pages. I spoke with good friends of mine a few weeks ago who were positively glowing about their teenage son's experience as a page earlier this year. It is supposed to engender pride in our country and its institutions. It is supposed to inspire young people to public service. But irresponsible, selfish and sick adults have turned the Page Program into their personal sexual romper room.

For more than 150 years, these young messengers have worked inthe U.S. Congress. Daniel Webster appointed the first Senate page in 1829. The first House pages began their service in 1842. Most are high school juniors at least 16 years of age. They must have stellar academic records and enlist members of Congress to sponsor them for one or two semester terms during the school year or a summer session.

The pages serve principally as gophers. They carry documents between the House and Senate, members' offices, committees and the Library of Congress; assist in the cloakrooms and chambers; and when Congress is in session, they may be summoned by members for assistance. They live in a supervised dorm near the Capitol. They wear uniforms and take classes. It's a highly competitive process to become a page, and it's an exclusive and exciting opportunity to see Washington up close. Parents put full trust in Congress that their children will be safe.

You can't possibly read Foley's reported communications with minors that have been disclosed so far -- including his attempts to rendezvous with one and apparent meetings and scheduled drinking sessions with others -- and dismiss them as merely "naughty e-mails." Yet, that's how White House press secretary Tony Snow described some of them this week.  Though he admitted to being too "glib" and later "clarified" those words with tougher remarks, the damage has been done. It makes Republicans who downplay the messages -- and Democrats and journalists who sat on them --
look recklessly flippant about sexual predation. Parents of all political persuasions should be outraged by both.

It is also impossible to ignore the appearance of calculated grooming by Foley of potential young targets. In a June 6, 2002, farewell speech to pages, Foley effused about his teen pals -- even bragging about taking one male page out on a dinner date at Morton's steakhouse after the boy made a winning bid to have a meal with him. Given my own experience in Washington as a young college intern, when I was approached by a congressman to live alone with him for a winter term, I am sure there are many, many more such stories to be told.

Some Beltway types think it's absolutely absurd to expect the adults in Washington to have policed Foley more aggressively based on knowledge of his more "innocent" exchanges. Come on. This was a 52-year-old man instant-messaging teenagers. Hello? Would you be comfortable with your next-door neighbor doing that?

And this is not the first time the Page Program's participants have been exploited by politicians lurking in the halls of power.  In 1983, Republican Dan Crane and Democrat Gerry Studds soiled the legacy of the House Page Program after both admitting to sexual relations with 17-year-old pages. Crane abused his position of power with a female page. Studds with a male page. Crane apologized and was voted out of office. Studds was defiant, calling his "relationship" with his teen prey "consensual." He was re-elected. Then-Congressman Newt Gingrich called for both predators to be expelled. But the enablers and apologists for Crane and Studds settled for censure.

The consequences of letting their sordid behavior slide without the most severe punishment created fertile grounds for the Capitol Hill predation scandal we are witnessing today. I do not blame the media or the prey for the sins of the predators. I blame the predators -- and all of those, on both sides of the aisle, who looked the other way.

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Re: New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2006, 06:31:43 AM »
Great article Collossus.
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Re: New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2006, 07:43:48 AM »
Two newspapers and FOX news have been sitting on those emails.  They didn't investigate (once the reporter from ABCNEWS.com asked the first page, they all came fwd with verification of the chatty congressman).

Had these 3 media outlets done their job, this would have come out in Nov of last year.
Had Haster done his job, this would have come out last year.

And the fact that repubs can complain about the timing.  They had every opportunity to investigate this last year, and chose not to.

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Re: New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2006, 09:47:14 AM »

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Re: New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2006, 09:48:05 AM »
Analyst suspects Foley contributed ‘bribes’ for cover-up

Crooks and Liars | October 3 2006

An MSNBC segment examines if Rep. Foley made a large contribution to the Republican Party in exchange for silence about sexual messages that Foley sent to House pages. Foley gave $100,000 to the GOP Campaign Committee in July. The large contribution came at same time when Republican House leadership ignored Foley's emails.

MSNBC Political Analyst Craig Crawford is suspicious of Foley's donation. Crawford says, "It's part of a pattern on Capitol Hill where member raise money not just for their own campaigns, but to give money to others, to their colleagues. So that's kind of a common practice in both parties. What was unusual here was how large this contribution was and when it was made. Tom Foley gave $100,000 to the campaign arm of the House Republicans, the National Republican Congressional Committee, at about the time when they were deciding to ignore these emails, this first round of emails they say. A couple of months after they knew about this, suddenly he gives this big donation. It raises the question, 'Did he buy their silence?'"

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Re: New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2006, 12:47:19 PM »
Top GOP Staffer Forced Out for Role in Page Scandal
October 04, 2006 1:44 PM

The chief of staff for Republican Congressman Tom Reynolds, Kirk Fordham, resigned after questions were raised about his role in the handling of the congressional page scandal, according to Republican  sources on Capitol Hill.

Those sources said Fordham, a former chief of staff for Congressman Mark Foley, had urged Republican leaders last spring not to raise questionable Foley e-mails with the full Congressional Page Board, made up of two Republicans and a Democrat.

"He begged them not to tell the page board," said one of the Republican sources.
They said Fordham had repeatedly warned Hastert's staff about Foley's "problem" with pages, but little was done.


At Fordham's urging, according to the sources, the matter was not given to the full board, and  instead Congressman Foley was privately approached and told to stop all contact with the page he had been e-mailing.

"This is something we should have been aware of, and we weren't, and I'm very unhappy about that," said Congresswoman Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV), who also serves on the page board.

Fordham offered ABC News a deal if it would not publish the content of the instant messages.

"He said we could have the exclusive on the resignation if we did not run direct quotes from the instant messages," said Maddy Sauer, the ABC News producer who dealt with Fordham.

ABC News refused to make any such deal.



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Re: New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2006, 10:50:57 PM »
It appears very damning indeed!
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