Did some heavy curls today...

[The True Adonis]

Nice in theory & fairly predictable but the reality is that most guys with 20"+ arms use form like this or looser. Very few guys with great arms use the supposedly "better", ultra strict style on curls; for that do scott curls or use an arm blaster.

Not true.

[Man of Steel]

Do you see those muscles hanging down from behind his armpits? Those are called "lats". Try growing some.

Do you see that big rod of engorged manflesh in your mouth?  That's called a penis.   Quit suckin on it.

[The True Adonis]

With Chris Mason`s form he is using less force and tension with the bicep.  The bicep is certainly not bearing the tension it would if he lowered the weight by 50 lbs and did these curls very slow.

The bicep would, in fact be more stressed and perform more work in this manner.  This full body Curl is just silly for biceps, but good for weight throwing training.

[pumpster]

Seem to be confusing shit loads of drugs for good results from poor form ...

Thanx for the reminder-another of the canned responses is to attribute something only to drugs.

[The True Adonis]

Thanx for the reminder-another of the canned responses is to attribute something only to drugs.

Gunthers arms are arguably bigger than Ronnie Colemans.  Gunther has worked a lot with Charles Glass and has gone VERY VERY light with great tension on bicep curls and produced very large arms.

[SteelePegasus]

I am talking to all of your online alter-egos you goof.

Sarcasm, errrrrr TA, errrr Steele Pagasus, errr Reardon Metal, errrr whatever, yes, I think I am a strong and a decent sized guy for a natural.  Do I define myself as "big" relative to pro bodybuilders or some of the bigger powerlifters?  HECK NO!  I am not an idiot but you ARE.  My arms measure 18+" cold.  That is a fact.  You can believe it or not.  Tell you what, I will be at the Arnold Classic why don't you make the trek and we can compare arms and then have a little lifting contest?  

Chris, do me a favor? please dont' group me with those guys
just because I noticed that you are doing more back than biceps doesn't mean that I am one of TA's troll accounts.

As I have stated many times I have little respect of TA. He has made tremendous gains but his behavior over shadows his accomplishments.  I actually appreciate your posts in general. But clearly you are lifting for your ego in this case

[o-m-g]

Gunthers arms are arguably bigger than Ronnie Colemans.  Gunther has worked a lot with Charles Glass and has gone VERY VERY light with great tension on bicep curls and produced very large arms.

Amen. We're bodybuilders people, not power lifters.

[Saxon]

Do you see those muscles hanging down from behind his armpits? Those are called "lats". Try growing some.

Chris also looks like he trains his legs, Adonis should try that as well.

[The True Adonis]

Chris, do me a favor? please dont' group me with those guys
just because I noticed that you are doing more back than biceps doesn't mean that I am one of TA's troll accounts.

As I have stated many times I have little respect of TA. He has made tremendous gains but his behavior over shadows his accomplishments.  I actually appreciate your posts in general. But clearly you are lifting for your ego in this case

And your behavior towards my girlfriend and myself have Always been less than stellar.  Don`t act like you are innocent.   Furthermore you should be able to separate someones accomplishments and personal bias/hatred and not meld them together.

[The True Adonis]

Chris also looks like he trains his legs, Adonis should try that as well.

Try showing your own. Chances are you will be just like the rest of the picture posters lately, way behind.

If not, prove me wrong. 

[chris_mason]

Chris, with all due respect your form is piss poor. Are you trying to get big or just throw heavy weights around? Don't lose sight of your goals dude. If you enjoy the weight throwing more than getting bigger then fair enough, and maybe you should consider olympic weight lifting, you certainly seem to have the knack for it.

Try this form and see how you get on:

Starting from the standing position, a medium width supinated grip as before. Lean over very slightly so that your shoulder are slightly infront of your waist. Keep your elbows in tight to your sides. Lift the barbell. Keep the elbows still tight in at your sides - don't let them drift forward. This will mean the barbell will have to arc around your fixed elbows, rather than the barbell going straight up in a line and your elbows moving out to cater for this as with your previous form. Your movement will end when your biceps and forearms meet, at approximately 70 - 75 degrees - there will still be a lot of resistance and so you will not be able to rest.

Slowly lower the weight, but don't go to full extenstion, keep resistance upon the biceps, probably25 degrees or so. Repeat until failure, possibly followed by drop sets or forced reps if a spotter is available. Let me know how you get on

Think about this: All your biceps know is how hard to tense. They don't even know what exercise you're doing, let alone how much weight you're swinging around.

What exactly will this do for me all-knowing training guru?  Better yet, let's see a pic of you.  Right, that is what I thought.

Look, I have been training longer than most of the members here have been alive AND I have trained with both professional bodybuilders and top level powerlifters.  I know WTF I am speaking of and you obviously don't.

Chris

[chris_mason]

Gunthers arms are arguably bigger than Ronnie Colemans.  Gunther has worked a lot with Charles Glass and has gone VERY VERY light with great tension on bicep curls and produced very large arms.

Ok, first, Gunter is no bigger today than he was 5 years ago.

Next, the real question is HOW did Gunter initially build his mass?  I GUARANTEE it was not with pussy weights using ultra-strict form.

[o-m-g]

What exactly will this do for me all-knowing training guru?  Better yet, let's see a pic of you.  Right, that is what I thought.

Look, I have been training longer than most of the members here have been alive AND I have trained with both professional bodybuilders and top level powerlifters.  I know WTF I am speaking of and you obviously don't.

Chris

What's your problem dude? You show your shit form off to all here and then when you get some negative feedback (but also constructive from me, at least) you act like you're gods gift when clearly you're just a little pumped up prick with a monster of an ego.

Don't post your vids here dude if all you want is false adulation and faint praise.

Ah fuck it. Is this what you want:

WOW!! OMFG!!! Look at the weight on that bar!! Incredible!! You MUST be FUCKING huge to lift that sort of weight!!! My god, perfect form too!! Shit me!!! *faints*

Dude, ffs, swinging the weight up and getting your elbows underneath the bar at the earliest possiblity is not how to train your biceps. Get a grip.

 

[The True Adonis]

Ok, first, Gunter is no bigger today than he was 5 years ago.

Next, the real question is HOW did Gunter initially build his mass?  I GUARANTEE it was not with pussy weights using ultra-strict form.

The amount of weight used does not equal a muscle gain. You are showing that you really don`t know a whole lot about how muscles grow....

If the sheer amount of weight was responsible for a physique then this guy would dwarf you as he is able to outlift you on any movment and he weighs 135 lbs.  Certainly his lifting prowess is due to physics dictated by his bone length and low center of gravity as well, but you get the picture.

Sadly, he does not dwarf you.    

How tall are you Chris?.....I can find 20 guys,same height as you, able to lift more weight than you can, but are considerably less muscular.

Weight used does not dictate a larger muscle.  Weight is not the end all.  

[pumpster]

Gunthers arms are arguably bigger than Ronnie Colemans.  Gunther has worked a lot with Charles Glass and has gone VERY VERY light with great tension on bicep curls and produced very large arms.

For his height, his arms are nowhere near the size of guys who've used looser form, like Coleman & Schwarzenegger; all his training proves is that it's another way of training.

Nice in theory & fairly predictable but the reality is that most guys with 20"+ arms use form like this or looser. Very few guys with great arms use the supposedly "better", ultra strict style on curls; for that do scott curls or use an arm blaster.

Not true.

No proof.

[The True Adonis]

For his height, his arms are nowhere near the size of guys who've used looser form, like Coleman & Schwarzenegger; all his training proves is that it's another way of training.

No proof.

Gunthers arms are bigger than Schwarzenegger`s in his prime and arguable bigger than Ronnie Colemans.

Some pictures are probably in order comparing...Preferably where he beat Ronnie at the GNC.

Compare them and you will see.

[body88]

Gunthers arms are bigger than Schwarzenegger`s in his prime and arguable bigger than Ronnie Colemans.

Some pictures are probably in order comparing...Preferably where he beat Ronnie at the GNC.

Compare them and you will see.

I have no idea the size of gunters arms. But in offseason mode they are gigantic. way bigger than any other pros imo.

[pumpster]

Gunthers arms are bigger than Schwarzenegger`s in his prime and arguable bigger than Ronnie Colemans.

Are you new to BB? Even if they're physically bigger (debatable) they're nowhere near as big or of the same volume relative to height and structure. In the same way that Ferrigno's arms were bigger than Schwarzennegger's but were not in the same ballpark. Gunter needs 3" on each arm to be in Coleman's league.

[The True Adonis]

If the amount of weight used dictated muscular size, than this guy would dwarf any IFBB pro and even Chris Mason.
Now this is impressive.

[Playboy]

dude do you honestly believe that you're a "big, strong guy"? you look like you're 180lbs. with 15 inch arms in that video.

Exactly, good point. By curling that amount of weight properly you should have something in terms of arms size to show forit. You don't.

PB

[pumpster]

If the amount of weight used dictated muscular size, than this guy would dwarf any IFBB pro

No one said the weight used is the only variable, just as strict reps aren't essential either.

Heavy weight does matter, not alone but in combo with moderate reps & effective exercises that are felt in the muscle. Strict reps aren't required if those things are satisfied.

[wishtobbigger]

Wow!  Well, first, I have a video of me with my back against a wall curling 185 lbs on a straight bar for a single.  That was over a year ago and I am stronger now.  Next, the first few reps were done with pretty good form.  MONSTER jealousy by some.  Tell you what, any of you who are talking about the form and think you can come even CLOSE to duplicating what I did I challange you to do so.

......crickets.....chirp ing.....


Right, that's what I thought you morons. 

Tell you what, the next time I curl I will get a video with my back against a wall using the SAME weight and I will get at least 2 reps.

One more thing, have any of your cock-suckers (those making snide statements) ever seen anyone other than your 15" arms self curl?  You know, someone like Ronnie or Arnold or just about any pro with any semblance of strength?  Right, those with truly big arms almost always use a slightly loose form when performing heavy curls because they know it is the way to go.

hey whats wrong with 15" arms(not that i have them but if i did i worked hard for them)?

[The True Adonis]

This is VERY Impressive to watch....Pyros Training.

&NR

[JimmyTheFish]

WOW!!!!!!

[Man of Steel]

For me, developing big, strong arms has required a combo of heavy/light free weight movements, machine/cable movements, basic compound movements and a lot of consistent training over the years.  Drugs can help, but aren't necessary.   TA is correct muscular size does not always translate into similar strength.   There are no universal training regimens, but there are some common training methodologies that will work for most.