Author Topic: Jay Has the Greatest Back of all Time! (Read 9966 times)

body88 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 06, 2006, 07:51:13 AM »

Just a joke hulk!! Dont take it serious

knny187 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 06, 2006, 12:16:03 PM »

Quote from: MattT on October 06, 2006, 01:06:40 AM

u must be on crack

I second that.

You need a new pair of glasses if you think Jay has the greatest back of all time

ATHEIST · « **Reply #28 on:** October 06, 2006, 01:32:08 PM »

and why should there be a weight limit before being considered having a great back? that is stupid. Samir, Ronnie, Yates, Haney and even Flex and Shawn all had better backs than Jay in their prime.

Quote from: body88 on October 06, 2006, 06:58:01 AM

This back is not in the top 20? Stop being an idiot. Def not better than doz or an old school Coleman. Most def better than most all the other people you listed. Jay was 270. Mr o's that weighed 180 are automatically out of the list. Samir was good but it aint hard to be detailed at 190 lbs.

body88 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 06, 2006, 02:03:22 PM »

Quote from: ATHEIST on October 06, 2006, 01:32:08 PM

and why should there be a weight limit before being considered having a great back? that is stupid. Samir, Ronnie, Yates, Haney and even Flex and Shawn all had better backs than Jay in their prime.

My point is this. Having extreme detail is not hard to do when you are 200 lbs. Samir flex and sean all had amazing backs. But the detail they showed was more due to the fact they where in BB terms "small". The "smaller" guys are always on the ones with the extreme detail. BB is not all about size. But to say this level of thickness and detail at 270 lbs @ 5'9 is not one of the best backs ever is not unbaised. It is cutler hating. Alot of jelous Ronnie fans on here. Cutler was the better man that night at the O and he just beat Ron again at the grand prix.

NeoSeminole · « **Reply #30 on:** October 06, 2006, 02:10:42 PM »

Even if we take weight into consideration, Jay's lack of separations in his back and folds of skin on his lower back prevent him from being on the list of greatest backs of all-time.

davidpaul · « **Reply #31 on:** October 06, 2006, 02:30:05 PM »

theres too many noobs here who don't know shit, If you compiling a list of the greatest backs in bodybuilding, you gotta include the following:

the "mighty" mike quinn
gary strydom
nasser el sonbaty
victor richards

ATHEIST · « **Reply #32 on:** October 06, 2006, 04:02:51 PM »

Quote from: davidpaul on October 06, 2006, 02:30:05 PM

theres too many noobs here who don't know shit, If you compiling a list of the greatest backs in bodybuilding, you gotta include the following:

the "mighty" mike quinn
gary strydom
nasser el sonbaty
victor richards

if you were referring to my comment, sorry i was only willing to consider bodybuilders who are in the upper tier of the sport. and please, i hope youre not saying Strydom has one of the best backs ever, if you are then youre just contradicting youself. and i didnt say i was compiling a list of the greatest backs i was using the names to make a point, completely different.

latman · « **Reply #33 on:** October 06, 2006, 04:06:08 PM »

Not the best back; maybe the best Jay\'s back has been.

ali23 · « **Reply #34 on:** October 06, 2006, 04:36:51 PM »

Quote from: MattT on October 06, 2006, 01:06:40 AM

u must be on crack

dont quote all the pictures fucktard, you make the fucking thread annoying.

knny187 · « **Reply #35 on:** October 06, 2006, 05:07:28 PM »

Quote from: davidpaul on October 06, 2006, 02:30:05 PM

theres too many noobs here who don't know shit, If you compiling a list of the greatest backs in bodybuilding, you gotta include the following:

the "mighty" mike quinn
gary strydom
nasser el sonbaty
victor richards

But Mike really had a strong as hell back.

getfast81 · « **Reply #36 on:** October 06, 2006, 05:23:04 PM »

Quote from: davidpaul on October 06, 2006, 02:30:05 PM

theres too many noobs here who don't know shit, If you compiling a list of the greatest backs in bodybuilding, you gotta include the following:

the "mighty" mike quinn
gary strydom
nasser el sonbaty
victor richards

Tell me that post was a joke. Nasser got smoked in 97 Olympia for the reason that he couldnt get hard in the back department. Nasser was awful when he turned around. Alot like Cutler was until this year.

Hulkster · « **Reply #37 on:** October 06, 2006, 05:30:26 PM »

interesting comparison:

Jay's back compared to the REAL greatest back of all time, in almost the same pose (with two different years, 98 and 99):

Jay's back is wide, but it lacks good detail and his lower back is soft with rolls of loose skin.

A fantastic back needs more than just width - it needs detail, hardness and symmetry too.

knny187 · « **Reply #38 on:** October 06, 2006, 05:34:47 PM »

Light Weight......Baby

body88 · « **Reply #39 on:** October 06, 2006, 05:39:40 PM »

Jays back is not on par with Ronnie's there. But to say jays 2006 back is not in the top 20 greatest backs is laughable. plain hating. He weighs 270 lbs. The sheer size of his back puts him in the running. Couple that with good detail.. Not amazing, good. Massive size. Extreme thickness. That is a very thick back. And good condition ( his lower back is dry he has a cosmetic fault with the skin) and you have one of the best backs ever. Not the greatest one of the best. Flex wheelers back was ultra detailed. It was also extremely narrow. So jay not having extreme detail of guys weighing 70 lbs less than him is a minnor fault. His detail is plenty good. Top 10 ? Maybe not. Top 20? Of course.

It is not hard to be ultra detailed at sub 230 lb bodyweight. Nevermind 188 or 205

You could argue the greats like Samir, Flex and Shawn where undersized. You could combat the detail accusations against Jay with the same principle. Doz and Ronnie had ultra detailed backs at over 250... Flex and co where just to small to compete. it is all relative. The back jay brought was one of the top 20 ever.

MikeThaMachine · « **Reply #40 on:** October 06, 2006, 05:48:11 PM »

Top 20 (15-20) is the best he's gonna get, no god damn lower back guarantees that.

swilkins1984 · « **Reply #41 on:** October 06, 2006, 05:59:56 PM »

Check out Dorian's back relaxed...

NeoSeminole · « **Reply #42 on:** October 06, 2006, 06:11:21 PM »

that pic is photoshoped. Here is the original.

ATHEIST · « **Reply #43 on:** October 06, 2006, 06:14:27 PM »

Quote from: body88 on October 06, 2006, 05:39:40 PM

Jays back is not on par with Ronnie's there. But to say jays 2006 back is not in the top 20 greatest backs is laughable. plain hating. He weighs 270 lbs. The sheer size of his back puts him in the running. Couple that with good detail.. Not amazing, good. Massive size. Extreme thickness. That is a very thick back. And good condition ( his lower back is dry he has a cosmetic fault with the skin) and you have one of the best backs ever. Not the greatest one of the best. Flex wheelers back was ultra detailed. It was also extremely narrow. So jay not having extreme detail of guys weighing 70 lbs less than him is a minnor fault. His detail is plenty good. Top 10 ? Maybe not. Top 20? Of course.

It is not hard to be ultra detailed at sub 230 lb bodyweight. Nevermind 188 or 205 You could argue the greats like Samir, Flex and Shawn where undersized. You could combat the detail accusations against Jay with the same principle. Doz and Ronnie had ultra detailed backs at over 250... Flex and co where just to small to compete. it is all relative. The back jay brought was one of the top 20 ever.

no detail is no detail i dont care how heavy you are. so are you now going to say the heavy competitors dont need to be in the same condition as the sub 230 lbs. bodybuildrs also? thats your reasoning. are you going to say " its easy to be ripped when youre 225 lbs.!, try beng ripped at 270?" youre not making sense. youre giving the big guys to much credit for just being big. its the total package that wins the show. and i believe Dorian was able to be detailed and big so was Ronnie in his prime. im not a Jay hater, im happy he won, he deseved it. but saying he has a great back=youre on crack.

beatmaster · « **Reply #44 on:** October 06, 2006, 06:17:10 PM »

obviously your a jay's fan, so do i, but to say jay has the greatest back OF ALL TIME.... sorry, no!!!

ATHEIST · « **Reply #45 on:** October 06, 2006, 06:20:34 PM »

and using your logic bantam weights should be the most detailed bbder's then right?

body88 · « **Reply #46 on:** October 06, 2006, 06:21:54 PM »

Quote from: ATHEIST on October 06, 2006, 06:14:27 PM

no detail is no detail i dont care how heavy you are. so are you now going to say the heavy competitors dont need to be in the same condition as the sub 230 lbs. bodybuildrs also? thats your reasoning. are you going to say " its easy to be ripped when youre 225 lbs.!, try beng ripped at 270?" youre not making sense. youre giving the big guys to much credit for just being big. its the total package that wins the show. and i believe Dorian was able to be detailed and big so was Ronnie in his prime. im not a Jay hater, im happy he won, he deseved it. but saying he has a great back=youre on crack.

Yet flex is on the all time best list based on detail alone? No thickness no width.

MikeThaMachine · « **Reply #47 on:** October 06, 2006, 06:24:26 PM »

Ownage on this supposed best back

Now this is top 10 material

body88 · « **Reply #48 on:** October 06, 2006, 06:24:58 PM »

Quote from: ATHEIST on October 06, 2006, 06:20:34 PM

and using your logic bantam weights should be the most detailed bbder's then right?

No.... Show me one BB that was more detailed at a higher bodyweight. Prime example Ronnie C. His back in 98 99 was the best back ever. Look at him in 03....

My point was it is alot harder to be detailed and ripped at 270 than 220.

body88 · « **Reply #49 on:** October 06, 2006, 06:25:47 PM »

Quote from: MikeThaMachine on October 06, 2006, 06:24:26 PM

Ownage on this supposed best back

Now this is top 10 material

I said jays back in 06

Learn how to read boss. Jays back is in the top 20. Pretty simple. Not the greatest ever or even top 10. Top 20 without a doubt.