Brit Hume: Tiger Woods must become Christian to be forgiven

[tonymctones]

He is NOT and HAS NEVER said he is retiring  he said he is going to take a break...

jag is right though he will get back just as many sponsors when he comes back and starts winning again.

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I agree with samson he should simply get back out there and play through it I honestly think it will be worse for Tiger the longer he puts it off.

[big L dawg]

Actually dawg, no.  If he accepts Christ has his savior it doesn't matter what he does.  He's saved.

how convenient...

[MCWAY]

Actually dawg, no.  If he accepts Christ has his savior it doesn't matter what he does.  He's saved.

Says who?

Recalling David and Solomon, at last check, David's sins cost him the lives of his sons (except for Solomon, all his sons died violent/premature deaths, as the sword never left his home).

Solomon's transgressions cost his family the throne of Israel.

Nothing in Scripture maintains that accepting Christ as one's Savior makes him immune from the earthly consequences of his actions.

[MCWAY]

If my man started 'creeping' as you so eloquently put it, ...it would be nobodies business but mine and his.
And were I in Elen Woods' position, I wouldn't want such a difficult time in my life made worse by the lack of privacy.

But, as you keep forgetting, if you marry a high-profile guy, it becomes everyone's business. That's especially true, if (as in the case of Woods), his infidelity gets discovered in what was initially a simple and innocent investigation on a traffic accident.

It appears that Mrs. Woods got medieval on her hubby, smashing his car in the process. That ALSO makes it a public matter.

You also forget that it's some of Tiger's whores who keep making this public.

[OzmO]

Says who?

Recalling David and Solomon, at last check, David's sins cost him the lives of his sons (except for Solomon, all his sons died violent/premature deaths, as the sword never left his home).

Solomon's transgressions cost his family the throne of Israel.

Nothing in Scripture maintains that accepting Christ as one's Savior makes him immune from the earthly consequences of his actions.

Hi McWay,

I think Dawg was talking about burning in hell as a result of adultery. 

[big L dawg]

Hi McWay,

I think Dawg was talking about burning in hell as a result of adultery. 

so sex out of wed lock is good to go now?hell yea!!!Im saved!!!

[MCWAY]

If my man started 'creeping' as you so eloquently put it, ...it would be nobodies business but mine and his.
And were I in Elen Woods' position, I wouldn't want such a difficult time in my life made worse by the lack of privacy.

That doesn't answer my question. Should you obtain a husband of such means and he starts whoring around on you, will YOU use the same rationale that you keep referencing to excuse Woods' behavior?

[MCWAY]

Hi McWay,

I think Dawg was talking about burning in hell as a result of adultery. 

I'm aware of that, as difficult as it is to sift through L Dawg's buffoonery to ascertain an actual point.

My point was that, while David was forgiven for his sins, he did NOT go unpunished for them. The death and dysfunction within his family was a harsh sentence for his transgressions.

[blacken700]

[24KT]

That doesn't answer my question. Should you obtain a husband of such means and he starts whoring around on you, will YOU use the same rationale that you keep referencing to excuse Woods' behavior?

Who is excusing his behaviour? I'm saying it is none of my business and it's not my place to judge him.
If he were my husband, ...it would be another story, ...but he is not, therefore... none of my business.

[MCWAY]

Who is excusing his behaviour? I'm saying it is none of my business and it's not my place to judge him.
If he were my husband, ...it would be another story, ...but he is not, therefore... none of my business.

YOU ARE excusing his behavior, in a sense, from the following statement, "So he likes to get laid. Other than the fact that he got caught, how is he any different from any other wealthy high profile man? Most wealthy, powerful men are only as faithful as their options.

Again, would that be your rationale, if your husband start creeping? "So he likes to get laid".

That would be your mentality, should your hubby exercise his "options"?

[BM OUT]

Here is what nobody wants to look at.Tiger is a black man playing a white mans sport.Christ the clubs he plays tournaments at have ZERO black members.Now,here is this black kid/man coming in and DOMINATING the sport.You think these white bread country club types want that?They already have so much money in the sport,even that doesnt sway them towards Tiger.

When Tiger comes back,you can bet fans will be snapping pictures or couging on every back swing.They will root against him.The other players already hate him.I dont think he will be capeable of winning anymore.Hes used to people cheering him despite his skin color,now he will be a target BECAUSE of his skin color.If he comes back and doesnt win,his sponsors will dry up.Check out Vannity Fair this month,just another nail in his coffin.

[Soul Crusher]

Here is what nobody wants to look at.Tiger is a black man playing a white mans sport.Christ the clubs he plays tournaments at have ZERO black members.Now,here is this black kid/man coming in and DOMINATING the sport.You think these white bread country club types want that?They already have so much money in the sport,even that doesnt sway them towards Tiger.

When Tiger comes back,you can bet fans will be snapping pictures or couging on every back swing.They will root against him.The other players already hate him.I dont think he will be capeable of winning anymore.Hes used to people cheering him despite his skin color,now he will be a target BECAUSE of his skin color.If he comes back and doesnt win,his sponsors will dry up.Check out Vannity Fair this month,just another nail in his coffin.

Who the hell cares about this whoremonger? 

He disgraced his family and is a bum.  Yes he is the best golfer ever, but he is really a POFS as a person. 

[240 is Back]

Glass houses.  Brit himself is on his second marriage, a divorcee.  


and a married kobe raped a girl in the ass in a hotel room.  and he's back, MVP and reigning champ,  and everyone's forgotten.

[MCWAY]

Who the hell cares about this whoremonger? 

He disgraced his family and is a bum.  Yes he is the best golfer ever, but he is really a POFS as a person. 

The issue here is that certain people, mainly liberals, are having a herd of cattle, because Brit Hume suggested that for Woods to be redeemed as a man and as a soul, he should seek forgiveness of the Lord Jesus Christ.

This is about his own personal journey as a man, not his golf career or his likely-destroyed marriage.

Hume's claim was that the Buddhist faith (Woods' mother is a Buddhist and Woods himself claims to be one, at least nominally) doesn't offer the type of forgiveness that the Christian faith does.

That's what has the some on the left all bent out of shape.

[MCWAY]

Glass houses.  Brit himself is on his second marriage, a divorcee.  


and a married kobe raped a girl in the ass in a hotel room.  and he's back, MVP and reigning champ,  and everyone's forgotten.

How is Hume in a glass house, unless his divorce was the result of HIS infidelity?

As for Bryant, it's not that everyone has forgotten. To the best of our knowledge, he has not been creeping again (unless you know something we don't).

[dario73]

Glass houses.  Brit himself is on his second marriage, a divorcee.  

Provide link proving Brit cheated on his first wife.

[BM OUT]

Glass houses.  Brit himself is on his second marriage, a divorcee.  


and a married kobe raped a girl in the ass in a hotel room.  and he's back, MVP and reigning champ,  and everyone's forgotten.

Kobe DID NOT rape that filthy skank.She wanted to get fucked but Kobe stuck it in her ass.Then that little whore went out and banged another guy right after.The first 6 inches was consensual,it was the last 6 that that bitch didnt like.

[Soul Crusher]

Kobe DID NOT rape that filthy skank.She wanted to get fucked but Kobe stuck it in her ass.Then that little whore went out and banged another guy right after.The first 6 inches was consensual,it was the last 6 that that bitch didnt like.

These star atheletes are really idiots.  Arod, Tiger, Kobe, Tyson, etc.

The only one who really did it right from what I can tell is Jeter. 

[240 is Back]

i dont know that brit cheated, i never siad that. 

[240 is Back]

IMO, any person on marriage #2, 3, 4, 5 shouldn't be lecturing others on how to be married.

Also, any person whose job it is to report the news shouldn't be lecturing people on converting religion.

Me, I like the news when I turn on fox news.  If I wanted to watch a show on why one religion is better than another, I would watch another channel.

[Soul Crusher]

IMO, any person on marriage #2, 3, 4, 5 shouldn't be lecturing others on how to be married.

Also, any person whose job it is to report the news shouldn't be lecturing people on converting religion.

Me, I like the news when I turn on fox news.  If I wanted to watch a show on why one religion is better than another, I would watch another channel.

I have not watched cable news in weeks and really dont feel like I have missed anything. 

Cable news is horrible.  Fox is a joke. 

As far as Brit Hume - stick with news. 

[MCWAY]

IMO, any person on marriage #2, 3, 4, 5 shouldn't be lecturing others on how to be married.

Also, any person whose job it is to report the news shouldn't be lecturing people on converting religion.

Me, I like the news when I turn on fox news.  If I wanted to watch a show on why one religion is better than another, I would watch another channel.

Hume wasn't lecturing Woods on how to be married. In fact, Hume's comments were that Woods' marriage is basically destroyed.

His comments were about how Tiger Woods can redeem himself and his soul, how he can improve himself as a man. As the roundtable discussion was ABOUT TIGER WOODS and what he should do, moving forward from this disaster that he's inflicted on himself, Hume's comments were QUITE APPROPRIATE.

[dario73]

i dont know that brit cheated, i never siad that. 

So why bring up his divorce? Sure, Woods will be a divorcee just like Brit, but NOT FOR THE SAME REASON.

Unless Brit is divorced due to his own infidelities or unless you know it was all his fault, then it should not be brought up.

There are other reasons (no where as immoral and as sick as sleeping with dozens of strippers, porn actresses and women seeking 15 minutes of fame) for which people get divorced.

There is a saying. Something about apples to apples, etc...

[240 is Back]

youre right on that, i dont know the details. 


still, a newsman shouldn't be lecturing on conversions.  I'ts a valid point that Tiger was a role model for children, and did a shitty thing there.  But saying he should convert, that was overboard.