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Voicemail rant reheats Alec-Kim feud
By SANDY COHEN, AP Entertainment Writer
Thu Apr 19, 10:07 PM ET
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The festering bad blood between movie-star exes Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger erupted Thursday when an angry phone message from Baldwin to his daughter was made public.
On the recording, Baldwin can be heard berating his 11-year-old, Ireland, "You are a rude, thoughtless little pig."
"You don't have the brains or the decency as a human being," he says, apparently upset that she did not answer her phone for a planned call.
"I don't give a damn that you're 12 years old, or 11 years old, or that you're a child, or that your mother is a thoughtless pain in the ass who doesn't care about what you do as far as I'm concerned. You have humiliated me for the last time with this phone."
He goes on to say that he plans to fly from New York to Los Angeles "for the day just to straighten you out on this issue."
The recording was published by celebrity news site TMZ.com, which said that the call was placed on April 11.
Baldwin's spokesman said in a statement Thursday that, "in the best interest of the child," the 49-year-old actor "will do what the mother is pathologically incapable of doing ... keeping his mouth shut and obeying the court order.
"The mother and her lawyer leaked this sealed material in violation of a court order," the statement continued. "Although Alec acknowledges that he should have used different language in parenting his child, everyone who knows him privately knows what he has been put through for the past six years."
"The voice mail speaks for itself," Basinger's spokeswoman said.
Calls to Basinger's and Baldwin's attorneys were not returned.
Baldwin and Basinger, 53, were married in 1993. They have been involved in prolonged legal disputes over custody and other issues since she filed for divorce in 2001, which was granted in 2002. The couple's differences have been aired several times in public.
Basinger was charged with contempt of court in October for violating terms of a 2004 custody agreement. A motion by her lawyers to dismiss the charges was denied Wednesday in Los Angeles Superior Court. The next hearing on visitation issues is scheduled for May 4.
Click here to listen to the voicemail message he left for his 11 yr. old daughter (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/news;_ylt=AlLIurlot6in9xgiEzZJMtInncUF?ch=68276&cl=2444969&lang=en','playerWindow','width=793,height=608,scrollbars=no') >:(
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Every time I start to like the guy again, he goes and does something stupid like this that makes it too easy to hate him.
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Um... Maybe she IS a rude thoughtless pig.
Sometimes a kid needs a Shakabuku, or else they shoot up College Campuses when they turn 20 or so.
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His daughter will come up dead in a few days.
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Um... Maybe she IS a rude thoughtless pig.
Sometimes a kid needs a Shakabuku, or else they shoot up College Campuses when they turn 20 or so.
What is that?
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Baldwin is a creep. I would never talk to my 12 year old daughter like that. You can't talk to kids like that. Its cruel.
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Baldwn looks like a Bloated mess. He looks like he is addicted to dessert.
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Baldwin is a creep. I would never talk to my 12 year old daughter like that. You can't talk to kids like that. Its cruel.
I understand you point but have you heard the mouth on some of the kids of that age today. I was at a store recently where some boy was talking mad stuff to his dad and had to be 12-14 I turned to my son and explained how it was bad behavior on both parts. The son for doing it and the father for letting him do it, then asked what would happen to him if he talked to me that way ..My son did not miss a beat he said dad you would spank my butt till it glowed in the dark..exactly.
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Baldwin is a legend
"go fuck yourself"
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I yell at my daughter like that and she's 6. No bullshit. Kids are tough, they bounce back.
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I yell at my daughter like that and she's 6. No bullshit. Kids are tough, they bounce back.
hahahahaha, maybe he found out that she was sucking dicks.
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I understand you point but have you heard the mouth on some of the kids of that age today. I was at a store recently where some boy was talking mad stuff to his dad and had to be 12-14 I turned to my son and explained how it was bad behavior on both parts. The son for doing it and the father for letting him do it, then asked what would happen to him if he talked to me that way ..My son did not miss a beat he said dad you would spank my butt till it glowed in the dark..exactly.
I guess. When I was a kid we said things to our parents that make me feel sick today. My kids are well behaved. They never heard arguing, or swearing at home. My house growing up was nothing but swearing, arguing, fighting. My folks were only 18 when I was born so maybe thats why things were so fucked up.
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What about the fact that Kim Basinger is the one who released the tape to the media?
What a terrible fucking mother she is! >:(
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What about the fact that Kim Basinger is the one who released the tape to the media?
What a terrible fucking mother she is! >:(
she's a miserable cu.nt, the daughter is probably exactly the same.
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she's a miserable cu.nt, the daughter is probably exactly the same.
DING DING DING..we have a winner on the Exactly my thought game..." ;D
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DING DING DING..we have a winner on the Exactly my thought game..." ;D
hahahhaa, the daughter will grow up to be an average looking girl who expects her "knight in shining armor" to put a rope around the moon for her and pull it down and will wake up at age 35 miserable and alone when she realizes that there aren't any perfect guys around.
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lookin at that kid and considerring her 'breeding'
i say adopted
thats why its cool to call her shit
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hahahhaa, the daughter will grow up to be an average looking girl who expects her "knight in shining armor" to put a rope around the moon for her and pull it down and will wake up at age 35 miserable and alone when she realizes that there aren't any perfect guys around.
1st quit watching bruce almighty... ;D I agree she is just like the bunch of stupid Runts who grow up with those types of parents that give them everything. Better if alex just took her down to compton and got the gang rape finished early in life so he does not have to sit thru the endless parade of losers she's going to bang looking for daddy.
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Blake: We're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anybody want to see second prize?
[Holds up prize]
Blake: Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired.
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I thought it was kinda funny that he didn't know whether she was 11 or 12.
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Blake: We're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anybody want to see second prize?
[Holds up prize]
Blake: Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired.
Best freaking movie ever and great scene. "Do I have your attention now".... ;D
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Blake: These are the new leads. These are the Glengarry leads. To you, these are gold; you do not get these. Because to give them to you would be throwing them away.
Blake: Your name is "you're wanting", and you can't play the man's game, you can't close them, and then tell your wife your troubles. 'Cause only one thing counts in this world: get them to sign on the line which is dotted. You hear me you fuckin' guys?
Blake: A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Closing. Always be closing, always be closing.
Blake: What's the problem, pal?
Dave Moss: You -
[correcting him]
Dave Moss: Moss. You're such a hero, you're so rich, how come you're coming down here wasting your time with such a bunch of bums?
Blake: You see this watch? You see this watch?
Dave Moss: Yeah.
Blake: That watch costs more than you car. I made $970,000 last year. How much you make? You see pal, that's who I am, and you're nothing. Nice guy? I don't give a shit. Good father? Fuck you! Go home and play with your kids. You wanna work here - close! You think this is abuse? You think this is abuse, you guy? You can't take this, how can you take the abuse you get on a sit? You don't like it, leave
Blake: You got leads. Mitch & Murray paid good money. Get their names to sell them. You can't close the leads you're given, you can't close shit, *you are* shit, hit the bricks pal, and beat it, 'cause you are going *out*.
Shelley Levene: The leads are weak.
Blake: "The leads are weak." The fucking leads are weak? You're weak. I've been in this business fifteen years...
Dave Moss: What's your name?
Blake: Fuck you. That's my name.
[Moss laughs]
Blake: You know why, mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove an eighty thousand dollar BMW. *That's* my name.
Dave Moss: We don't gotta sit here and listen to this.
Blake: You CERTAINLY don't pal, 'cause the good news is - you're fired.
Blake: PUT THAT COFFEE DOWN. Coffee is for closers.
Blake: You call yourself a salesman, you son of a bitch?
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his daughter had it coming...
young, dumb, and full of cum
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Used to use parts of the speech when I was talking about the upcoming months goals for my employees..great.
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Used to use parts of the speech when I was talking about the upcoming months goals for my employees..great.
Yep...When I was a sales manager in the retail sector I use to do the same thing...lol
Boiler Room was a close second:
One of the doors of the trading room opens. Seth catches a
glimpse of several brokers crouched down, playing dice near
the far window of the trading room. The door closes in SLOW
MOTION as Seth cranes to get every possible view.
Out walks JIM YOUNG. Jim is a team leader at JT Marlin. He
is dressed to the T. He looks like someone not to be fucked
with.
JIM: Alright guys, come this way.
CUT TO: INT. BOARDROOM - DAY (CONTINUOUS)
The room used mostly for interviewing and on the rare
occasion a meeting is needed with someone outside the firm.
Jim walks in to find Marc sitting at the head of the table.
He laughs to himself.
JIM: I'm sorry, but that's my seat.
MARC (scared): Oh man, I'm so sorry.
JIM: It's alright.
Marc JUMPS to another seat. He is chided by one of his
friends, the same kid who was having words with Debbie.
RUDE KID: Fucking dumb-ass.
JIM: You can get the fuck out of here.
RUDE KID (terrified): What? What?
JIM: Don't talk to me, don't look at me, just pick your ass up out of that
Italian leather chair and get the fuck out of this room.
He gets up and leaves without saying another word.
JIM (CONT'D): We expect everyone here to treat their co-workers with a certain level of respect.
Everyone in the room is silent and staring at Jim.
JIM (CONT'D) (calm): Now before I get started I have a question. Has anyone here passed the series seven?
One hand goes up. It's one of the few kids who wears a good
suit and wasn't too worried looking in the waiting room.
SERIES SEVEN: I have a series seven license.
JIM: Good for you, now you can get out too.
SERIES SEVEN: What? Why?
JIM: Because we don't hire brokers. We train new ones.
Jim waits for him to leave the room and then calmly
continues.
JIM (CONT'D): This is the deal. I am not here to waste your time and I can only hope you're not here to waste mine. So I'm gonna keep this short. You become an employee of this firm and you will make your first million within three years.
(pauses)
Okay? Let me repeat that. You will make a million dollars within three years of your first day of employment at JT Marlin. Everybody got that? There is no question as to whether you will be a millionaire working at this firm, the question is how many times over.
Every kid in the room besides Seth is completely starry eyed
at this point. Some mouths even hang open. Seth is excited
too, but is smarter than the rest... he doesn't show it.
JIM (CONT'D): You think I'm joking. I am not joking. I am a millionaire. It's a weird thing to hear, right? I'll tell you, it's a weird thing to say. I'm a fucking
millionaire. Now guess how old I am? Twenty-seven. You know what that makes
me here? A fucking senior citizen. This firm is entirely comprised of people your age, not mine. Lucky for me, I am very fucking good at my job or I'd be out of one. You guys are the new blood. You're gonna go home with the kesef. You're the future Big-Swinging-Dicks of this firm. Now you all look money hungry and that's good. Anybody who says money is the root of all evil, doesn't have it! Money can't buy happiness? Look at the fucking smile on my face. Ear to ear, baby. You wanna hear details? I drive a Ferrari 355 cabriolet.
(throws keys on desk)
I have a ridiculous house on the South Fork. I've got every toy you can
imagine. And best of all, kids, I am liquid.
Jim takes a pause here and circles the room.
JIM (CONT'D): So now that you know what's possible, let me tell you what's required. You are required to work your ass off. We want winners, not pikers. A piker is someone who walks at the bell. A piker asks how much vacation time he gets in the first year. See, people work here to become filthy rich. No other reason. That's it. You want vacation time? Go teach third grade public school.
Jim pours himself a glass of water from a carafe and drinks.
JIM (CONT'D): Your first six months at the firm are as a trainee... you make one hundred and fifty dollars a week. After you're done training, you take the Series
Seven test. When you pass, you become a junior broker and you'll be opening
accounts for your team leader. After you open forty accounts you begin working for yourself and then... sky's the limit. Now a word about being a trainee. The other brokers, your parents, whoever: they're gonna giveyou shit about it. And it's true, a hundred and fifty a week is not a lot of money, but pay no mind. You need to learn the business and this is the time to do it. Once you pass the Series
Seven none of it will matter.
He pauses to drink.
JIM (CONT'D): Your friends are shit. You're gonna tell them you made twenty-five thousand last month and they're not going to believe you. Fuck them! Your parents don't like the life you lead? Fuck you Mom and Dad! As a trainee you will be building a foundation for yourself. Think of it as the foundation to a building. Right? Gotta build the foundation before you can put up your skyscraper. You know what I built?
(takes out a model)
The fucking twin towers. Now go home and think about whether this is for you. If you decide it isn't, nothing to be embarrassed about. It's not for everyone. But if you really want it, then give me a call on Monday and we'll talk. Just don't waste my time. Alright. That's it.
Jim walks out of the room leaving the door open behind him.
No one has moved from their seat.
FADE OUT.
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Another classic. Love when he walks into Jim's house and its empty.
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(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/FrightenedMouse.gif)
ShutupNtrain, you are giving me scary flashbacks. {cringing inside}
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What is that?
I use the definition from the movie Gross Pointe Blanke.
Shakabuku: It's a swift, spiritual kick to the head that alters your reality forever.
The real definition is: The process by which we share our Faith with others, and assure all to whom we speak, that everyone is capable of attaining Buddhahood
My point was that maybe the girl needs a kick in the head... Kids can be very thoughtless, and it's a parents job to tell them so... If her mom won't, then her dad SHOULD.
I found nothing abusive in that at all.
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I use the definition from the movie Gross Pointe Blanke.
Shakabuku: It's a swift, spiritual kick to the head that alters your reality forever.
The real definition is: The process by which we share our Faith with others, and assure all to whom we speak, that everyone is capable of attaining Buddhahood
My point was that maybe the girl needs a kick in the head... Kids can be very thoughtless, and it's a parents job to tell them so... If her mom won't, then her dad SHOULD.
I found nothing abusive in that at all.
That is a fantastic word. Thanks for the info.
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I thought it was kinda funny that he didn't know whether she was 11 or 12.
HAHAHA...you got that too, huh? :D
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From Alec:
Everybody's favorite father just posted the following message on his official website:
"Thank you to everyone who has posted messages of suppport and understanding. Naturally, it is not best for a parent to lose their temper with their child. Everyone who knows me privately knows that I have endured a great deal over the last several years in my custody litigation.
Everyone who knows me privately knows that certain people will go to any lengths to embarass me and to disrupt my relationship with my daughter. In such public cases, your opponents attempt to take a picture of you on your worst day and insist that this is who you are as a person.
Outside the doors of divorce court, I have friends, I have respect from people I work with and I have a normal relationship with my daughter. All of that is threatened whenever one enters a court room.
Although I have been told by numerous people not to worry too much, as all parents lose their patience with their kids, I am most saddened that this was released to the media because of what it does to a child.
I'm sorry, as everyone who knows me is aware, for losing my temper with my child. I have been driven to the edge by parental alienation for many years now. You have to go through this to understand. ( Although I hope you never do.)
I am sorry for what happened. But I am equally sorry that a court order was violated, which had deliberately been put under seal in this case. Once my book is published, I'm sure more people will understand the incredible strains created by parental alienation.
In the meantime, I'm sorry to anyone who's taken offense from this episode."
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A "normal" relationship with his daughter? ??? All that is threatened when you enter a court room? ???
It's also threatened when you unleash abusive venom on your CHILD. You just don't speak to your child like that !
Apparently a judge is part of the conspiracy to alienate him from his "normal" realtionship with his daughter,
...because he has been ordered NOT TO HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH HER.
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I don't know I don't really think that is anything bad. The content was not violent, threatening or anything. Growing up in my house there wasn't as much words and just a beaten to straighten you out. maybe some discipline (spoken not violent) is just what the spoiled kid needs.
I think alot of kids today could use some discipline...it's a forgotten thing.
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I think alot of kids today could use some discipline...it's a forgotten thing.
Exactly! Like the beating of the ass!
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I didn't have a problem with the rant till he talked about her brains and called her a pig. The rest is nothing more than an angry, frustrated parent scolding his kid.
I fault Bassinger for releasing this private matter to the world. What a calculating, cruel act.
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that girl is probabaly a little brat that deserved it
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Um... Maybe she IS a rude thoughtless pig.
Sometimes a kid needs a Shakabuku, or else they shoot up College Campuses when they turn 20 or so.
agreed!
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Blake: These are the new leads. These are the Glengarry leads. To you, these are gold; you do not get these. Because to give them to you would be throwing them away.
Blake: Your name is "you're wanting", and you can't play the man's game, you can't close them, and then tell your wife your troubles. 'Cause only one thing counts in this world: get them to sign on the line which is dotted. You hear me you fuckin' ####?
Blake: A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Closing. Always be closing, always be closing.
Blake: What's the problem, pal?
Dave Moss: You -
[correcting him]
Dave Moss: Moss. You're such a hero, you're so rich, how come you're coming down here wasting your time with such a bunch of bums?
Blake: You see this watch? You see this watch?
Dave Moss: Yeah.
Blake: That watch costs more than you car. I made $970,000 last year. How much you make? You see pal, that's who I am, and you're nothing. Nice guy? I don't give a shit. Good father? Fuck you! Go home and play with your kids. You wanna work here - close! You think this is abuse? You think this is abuse, you ####? You can't take this, how can you take the abuse you get on a sit? You don't like it, leave
Blake: You got leads. Mitch & Murray paid good money. Get their names to sell them. You can't close the leads you're given, you can't close shit, *you are* shit, hit the bricks pal, and beat it, 'cause you are going *out*.
Shelley Levene: The leads are weak.
Blake: "The leads are weak." The fucking leads are weak? You're weak. I've been in this business fifteen years...
Dave Moss: What's your name?
Blake: Fuck you. That's my name.
[Moss laughs]
Blake: You know why, mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove an eighty thousand dollar BMW. *That's* my name.
Dave Moss: We don't gotta sit here and listen to this.
Blake: You CERTAINLY don't pal, 'cause the good news is - you're fired.
Blake: PUT THAT COFFEE DOWN. Coffee is for closers.
Blake: You call yourself a salesman, you son of a bitch?
one of the best movies ever!
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one of the best movies ever!
is that from "beetlejuice" ???
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is that from "beetlejuice" ???
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Tell me your making a joke??? Glengary Glenross...freaking classic movie.
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I think the full family is just fucked. I mean the dad sends the message the mom gives it to the public so i'm thinking hte kid probaly needs to hear that message.
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First guy that sex's up the soon to be single Kim Basinger will most likely get OJ'd by Alec Baldwin.
Its obvious Alec still wants that pussy to belong to him! This ain't about the kid, its about Kims pussy about to
be open to the public again.
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Tell me your making a joke??? Glengary Glenross...freaking classic movie.
it's no beetlejuice 8)
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is that from "beetlejuice" ???
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Wow...........You're. Not. Too. Bright.
"Beetle-fucking-juice??" My god, don't ever debate me again on any issue on this website.
Don't ever debate anyone for that matter.
Ever again.
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Wow...........You're. Not. Too. Bright.
"Beetle-fucking-juice??" My god, don't ever debate me again on any issue on this website.
Don't ever debate anyone for that matter.
Ever again.
it was a joke you idiot ::)
now you are the one that can't debate me :)
i'm still trying to figure out why you tried to begin with :-\
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it was a joke you idiot ::)
now you are the one that can't debate me :)
i'm still trying to figure out why you tried to begin with :-\
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Clarify yourself then. Based on yourt past postings I was inclined to agree with the notion that you really thought that dialogue was from Bettlejuice.
Why would I not put that past you?
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Why would I not put that past you?
because you hate me and are still holding a grudge over past ownings :)
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because you hate me and are still holding a grudge over past ownings :)
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I don't hate anyone, dude. Hate's a strong word. How can I hate someone I don't even know?
Have I ever by some chance ever "owned" you on any level in the past? I'm guessing you'll say no. What a shocker. I seriously doubt you would give anyone the privilege of knowing as to whether you've ever been "owned". But you always respond to my statements so my words must have some weight to it.
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Have I ever by some chance ever "owned" you on any level in the past?
no
what would make you think you did? ???
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Good that this came out, so that maybe now finally after decades of denial he'll get needed help. Maybe - he's clearly still in denial.
Gee i wonder why she didn't take the call. Maybe it's happened before? ;D
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I fault Bassinger for releasing this private matter to the world. What a calculating, cruel act.
This behavior including public blow ups has been going on for decades; making it public's the only chance to force acceptance of his disturbance. So far he's still in denial from the statement he left afterwards.
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This is nothing that any NORMAL parent hasn't already or will continue to say to their kids. If she was acting like that then she deserves the comment. She is old enough to hear a tough comment. Maybe Basinger should not be a stupid girl and release something that is private to make him look bad.
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He deserved it; he's blown up at restaurants, which is not normal unless you're Russell Crowe.
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Isn't he a fucking cokehead?
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I give you yet another
MELTDOWN
Alec Baldwin leaves talent agency
Tuesday April 24, 2007 11 PM EST
LOS ANGELES --Alec Baldwin has parted ways with his agents at a major Hollywood talent agency, his spokesman said Tuesday. Baldwin left Creative Artists Agency for personal reasons, said spokesman Matthew Hiltzik. He did not elaborate.
The actor has made headlines in recent days after an angry voicemail to his daughter was obtained by the celebrity Web site TMZ.com and broadcast around the world.
Baldwin and actress Kim Basinger have been locked in a custody dispute over their 11-year-old daughter, Ireland, since their 2002 divorce.
In it, Baldwin yelled at his daughter for failing to answer the telephone for a prearranged call and called her a "rude, thoughtless little pig."
Baldwin has since apologized.
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First guy that sex's up the soon to be single Kim Basinger will most likely get OJ'd by Alec Baldwin.
Its obvious Alec still wants that pussy to belong to him! This ain't about the kid, its about Kims pussy about to
be open to the public again.
That's what we need a pudgy white OJ.
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This behavior including public blow ups has been going on for decades; making it public's the only chance to force acceptance of his disturbance. So far he's still in denial from the statement he left afterwards.
This should have been a private family matter. There is nothing public about a father scolding his kid in a voicemail message.
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You all should get real and stop apologizing for an abuser.
His temper is out of control and has been for a number of years.
Too many people have quit their jobs rather than opt to be around that ticking time bomb.
And no Cap, ..."normal" parents do not talk to their children that way.
If that was "normal" in your household... well, ...I'll just say I'm glad you got through it.
It doesn't however mean she should be subjected to that kind of abuse.
He has anger issues, and until he is able to cope properly, she should not be subjected to his abuse.
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This should have been a private family matter. There is nothing public about a father scolding his kid in a voicemail message.
If Kim, didn't leak the message as she claimed, ...I think we will all be surprised at who did it.
I'm not going to name any names, ...but I have a theory which I think will shock you all. 8)
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You all should get real and stop apologizing for an abuser.
His temper is out of control and has been for a number of years.
Too many people have quit their jobs rather than opt to be around that ticking time bomb.
And no Cap, ..."normal" parents do not talk to their children that way.
If that was "normal" in your household... well, ...I'll just say I'm glad you got through it.
It doesn't however mean she should be subjected to that kind of abuse.
He has anger issues, and until he is able to cope properly, she should not be subjected to his abuse.
This is one of those blah blah moments...
Only one of two people would have done this... It can only help two people.
Reality is that you will have many people that don't think he did anything wrong... Then there are others who must think that spankings are "child abuse".
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This should have been a private family matter. There is nothing public about a father scolding his kid in a voicemail message.
Shoulda coulda. He's already had public outbursts, but you want to keep it quiet for what reason? He's a maniac who's finally exposed.
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Notice it's all dudes here supporting him. Why? Because they don't have any boundaries on tough luv, thinking it's always just fine thanks. Great dads i'm sure. ::)
Rest assured this Balwin moment captured on tape's just the tip of the iceberg; none supporting him seem to comprehend this or that he's obviously out of control.
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trust me this girl is a little brat that probably thinks of herself as a princess
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trust me this girl is a little brat that probably thinks of herself as a princess
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Another WINNING rationalization. ::) The kid sounds smarter.
Anyone here who continues to justify talking to a kid like that doesn't get it.
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You all should get real and stop apologizing for an abuser.
His temper is out of control and has been for a number of years.
Too many people have quit their jobs rather than opt to be around that ticking time bomb.
And no Cap, ..."normal" parents do not talk to their children that way.
If that was "normal" in your household... well, ...I'll just say I'm glad you got through it.
It doesn't however mean she should be subjected to that kind of abuse.
He has anger issues, and until he is able to cope properly, she should not be subjected to his abuse.
You must not have kids. :) I don't condone all of the language he used, but I can understand him being angry and frustrated.
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If Kim, didn't leak the message as she claimed, ...I think we will all be surprised at who did it.
I'm not going to name any names, ...but I have a theory which I think will shock you all. 8)
O.K. I'll bite. What's the theory?
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Shoulda coulda. He's already had public outbursts, but you want to keep it quiet for what reason? He's a maniac who's finally exposed.
I don't want to keep anything quiet. It's not my family. What I said was it's a private family matter. Bassinger should have kept that private family matter within the family. It's none of our business. Now the entire world knows this little girl's business. That's just plain wrong.
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what would make you think you did? ???
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I'm trying to make a point by saying that if anybody ever "owned" you that you'd never admit to it.
Therefore, I've never been owned either.
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I don't want to keep anything quiet. It's not my family. What I said was it's a private family matter. Bassinger should have kept that private family matter within the family. It's none of our business. Now the entire world knows this little girl's business. That's just plain wrong.
What is the logic being privacy being sacrosanct? That's just another cover, once the problem continues on and on for years and decades.
In this case, with Russell Crowe and with OJ, publicity and embarassment are or could have been necessary ingredients towards acknowledgement of the problem. Just read Baldwin's "apology" to realize how imbedded his righteousness is. He still doesn't see a problem other than the fact that it got out.
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What is the logic being privacy being sacrosanct? That's just another cover, once the problem continues on and on for years and decades.
In this case, with Russell Crowe and with OJ, publicity and embarassment are or could have been necessary ingredients towards acknowledgement of the problem. Just read Baldwin's "apology" to realize how imbedded his righteousness is. He still doesn't see a problem other than the fact that it got out.
? The logic behind privacy? Most people value their privacy. What goes on behind closed doors is nobody's business, unless the law is being broken. I doubt most people want the world to hear or see what goes on in their households.
We also don't know precisely what prompted this tirade. Maybe the girl deserved (most) of it. Maybe she is a disrespectful, dishonest kid who needs to be figuratively slapped around a bit. Neither one of us knows. As a parent, I don't condone everything he said, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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This is 100% proof that you NEVER leave an angry message. It can be used against you later, and in this very public and bitter divorce, it's just more leverage for Kim to use against Alec.
If you say something in person, you can deny all till you're blue in the face. But when it's recorded and you're confronted with it, it's pretty hard to deny unless you use some type of insanity defense.
I never really liked Alec anyhow. Best part about him is that he got to bang Kim Basinger! But soon as they married, his waistline turned into that of a whale, his acting career seemed to go belly up (could have been a conscious decision on his part however), and his temper seems to be a well known conversation piece.
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This is 100% proof that you NEVER leave an angry message. It can be used against you later, and in this very public and bitter divorce, it's just more leverage for Kim to use against Alec.
Good advice strategically while completely forgetting that he's in bad shape and needs help.
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? The logic behind privacy? Most people value their privacy. What goes on behind closed doors is nobody's business, unless the law is being broken. I doubt most people want the world to hear or see what goes on in their households.
We also don't know precisely what prompted this tirade. Maybe the girl deserved (most) of it. Maybe she is a disrespectful, dishonest kid who needs to be figuratively slapped around a bit. Neither one of us knows. As a parent, I don't condone everything he said, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
The point is there's more to the equation than just privacy. He's clearly a loose cannon, has pulled this crap for years, is setting a lousy example and is potentially dangerous besides being out of control. Do YOU know what's up with him behind closed doors? The message is a pretty good hint it's nothing positive.
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The point is there's more to the equation than just privacy. He's clearly a loose cannon, has pulled this crap for years, is setting a lousy example and is potentially dangerous besides being out of control. Do YOU know what's up with him behind closed doors? The message is a pretty good hint it's nothing positive.
Well, that's your view. I see this as a privacy issue, not only for the father, but for the kid. I have no idea what he does behind closed doors and unless he is breaking the law it is none of my business. If he is abusing the kid, report him to CPS. If he is just being a jerk or bad parent, let the courts deal with it. But giving the media a voicemail scolding that was too harsh? Sounds like someone with an ax to grind trying to get leverage in a custody dispute.
The guy may be a lousy father, but I hardly think one rant at his daughter, with no background facts, proves he is a bad father.
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Well, that's your view.
Yes Beach, that is pumpster's view, ...and being in NYC, I can only assume he has a much clearer bird's-eye view of the monster named Baldwin. No doubt stories of his Broadway antics have filtered into the streets of NY.
I see this as a privacy issue, not only for the father, but for the kid. I have no idea what he does behind closed doors and unless he is breaking the law it is none of my business. If he is abusing the kid, report him to CPS. If he is just being a jerk or bad parent, let the courts deal with it.
Beach, that's probably why you are defending him. You're right YOU do not know what goes on behind closed doors. Those of us who do are of the opinion he's gone too far. If there is nothing wrong with his rant, why would a judge slap him with an order to cease any and all contact with his daughter?
But giving the media a voicemail scolding that was too harsh? Sounds like someone with an ax to grind trying to get leverage in a custody dispute.
Possibly, but you need to stand back and ask yourself why provide the sharpening stone? Do you not question the critical thinking skills or the wisdom of an individual about to appear in court in a custody case, leaving that kind of ammunition around?
The guy may be a lousy father, but I hardly think one rant at his daughter, with no background facts, proves he is a bad father.
One rant with no background facts? ???
Beach, this is one rant left in voicemail, ...it doesn't include the many rants NOT in voicemail.
Those are legendary. There are those of us who have seen him unleash his venom on adults and reduce them to quivering shells of their former selves. When someone sees that very same MO being perpetrated on an 11 yr. old child, that's when people step in, and rightly so. It's unfortunate that this might cause Ireland some embarassment, but if it forces Baldwin to get the therapy he needs to change his ways, she is better off in the long run, and stands a much better chance of being raised to become a normal well adjusted young lady, ...but if she is forced to be subjected to more of the "usual" Baldwin, that's not very likely to occur.
This is just my opinion, but I strongly believe that if you were witness to Alec Baldwin and his general arrogance and inept coping skills you would be appalled. When they chose him for Glengarry Glenross, they were typecasting.
The only redeeming thing I have to say about the guy... he votes Democrat and can't stand Bush.
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If Kim, didn't leak the message as she claimed, ...I think we will all be surprised at who did it.
I'm not going to name any names, ...but I have a theory which I think will shock you all. 8)
oh god, you say "Kim" as if you know her. oh puhleaze ::)
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Yes Beach, that is pumpster's view, ...and being in NYC, I can only assume he has a much clearer bird's-eye view of the monster named Baldwin. No doubt stories of his Broadway antics have filtered into the streets of NY.
Beach, that's probably why you are defending him. You're right YOU do not know what goes on behind closed doors. Those of us who do are of the opinion he's gone too far. If there is nothing wrong with his rant, why would a judge slap him with an order to cease any and all contact with his daughter?
Possibly, but you need to stand back and ask yourself why provide the sharpening stone? Do you not question the critical thinking skills or the wisdom of an individual about to appear in court in a custody case, leaving that kind of ammunition around?
One rant with no background facts? ???
Beach, this is one rant left in voicemail, ...it doesn't include the many rants NOT in voicemail.
Those are legendary. There are those of us who have seen him unleash his venom on adults and reduce them to quivering shells of their former selves. When someone sees that very same MO being perpetrated on an 11 yr. old child, that's when people step in, and rightly so. It's unfortunate that this might cause Ireland some embarassment, but if it forces Baldwin to get the therapy he needs to change his ways, she is better off in the long run, and stands a much better chance of being raised to become a normal well adjusted young lady, ...but if she is forced to be subjected to more of the "usual" Baldwin, that's not very likely to occur.
This is just my opinion, but I strongly believe that if you were witness to Alec Baldwin and his general arrogance and inept coping skills you would be appalled. When they chose him for Glengarry Glenross, they were typecasting.
The only redeeming thing I have to say about the guy... he votes Democrat and can't stand Bush.
I will defer to you, because you obviously know more about him than me. I don't know anything about his private life or what kind of person he is outside of his movie roles.
That said, I maintain that this (the outing) was wrong. If he needs therapy, give the tape to the judge and let the judge deal with him and his family privately. If he has spoken to his daughter like this on multiple occasions, he should have his daddy card taken away by a judge. Sharing this with the world, which harms the child, is not the right approach. This isn't a matter of public concern at all IMO.
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Everyone just be grateful not to be bum's kidz. :o
Besides, he's busy still trying to figure out sports, let alone common sense. ;)
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Everyone just be grateful not to be bum's kidz. :o
Besides, he's busy still trying to figure out sports, let alone common sense. ;)
And we all know pumpster is the authority on kids, sports, and common sense.
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And we all know pumpster is the authority on kids, sports, and common sense.
If Bum makes his kids behave and show respect to their elders, I don't have any issues nor will I ever say anything about how he raises his kids.
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If Bum makes his kids behave and show respect to their elders, I don't have any issues nor will I ever say anything about how he raises his kids.
A-1 rationalization.
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I have no doubt that had he been alive, bum would've been assuring us about the Titanic as well. ;D ;D ;D
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oh god, you say "Kim" as if you know her. oh puhleaze ::)
You'd be surprised at who I know, ...but since you mention it... yes I do... as well as a few Baldwins.
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I have no doubt that had he been alive, bum would've been assuring us about the Titanic as well. ;D ;D ;D
{ROTFLMAO} I don't know why this has the ring of truth to it... Beach forgive me, ...but that made me crack up.
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Just to reiterate...the guy's having yet ANOTHER meltdown, because he's been out of control and unstable for years. This just put him over the edge.
Alec Baldwin leaves talent agency
Tuesday April 24, 2007 11 PM EST
LOS ANGELES --Alec Baldwin has parted ways with his agents at a major Hollywood talent agency, his spokesman said Tuesday. Baldwin left Creative Artists Agency for personal reasons, said spokesman Matthew Hiltzik. He did not elaborate.
The actor has made headlines in recent days after an angry voicemail to his daughter was obtained by the celebrity Web site TMZ.com and broadcast around the world.
Baldwin and actress Kim Basinger have been locked in a custody dispute over their 11-year-old daughter, Ireland, since their 2002 divorce.
In it, Baldwin yelled at his daughter for failing to answer the telephone for a prearranged call and called her a "rude, thoughtless little pig."
Baldwin has since apologized.
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FYI bum also thinks Russell Crowe's a great guy. ;D
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A parent has the right to call his/her child a disrespectful pig. I'm sorry, maybe most of you were coddled and never called out on your shit but it is a normal thing that most people do and the reason why kids act like little assholes these days is because parents don't call them out. Plain and simple.
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A parent has the right to call his/her child a disrespectful pig. I'm sorry, maybe most of you were coddled and never called out on your shit but it is a normal thing that most people do and the reason why kids act like little assholes these days is because parents don't call them out. Plain and simple.
Teaching them how to behave has nothing to do with exhibiting hostility and vulgarity while potentially affecting their self-respect.
That's SEPARATE from the fact that it would be obvious that dad's a dick. :D She might've purposely avoided taking his call already knowing what to expect from past behavior.
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Teaching them how to behave has nothing to do with exhibiting hostility and vulgarity while potentially affecting their self-respect.
I highly doubt most parents are never vulgar or upset when disciplining a child. Most kids today are little ass holes and deserve to be yelled at and spanked, which is apparently now abuse. Notice how this generation is more screwed up compared to older generations of people who received corporal punishment.
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I highly doubt most parents are never vulgar or upset when disciplining a child.
I don't remember any of that from any parents i saw. Mad sure, vulgar and vindictive, no. Using the term pig isn't appropriate for a parent wanting to set a good example; kids do grow up along the lines of those examples.
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Another WINNING rationalization. ::) The kid sounds smarter.
Anyone here who continues to justify talking to a kid like that doesn't get it.
do you hear the way kids talk to their parents these days?
I imagine it's 10 times worse for a girl who probably has maids clean her room, chef's cook her dinner, gets everything she wants all because mommy and daddy are in the movies ::)
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I'm trying to make a point by saying that if anybody ever "owned" you that you'd never admit to it.
Therefore, I've never been owned either.
I would admit to it and I've brutalized you many times and caused you to cry all because I said joey porter is not the same player anymore :)
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do you hear the way kids talk to their parents these days?
I imagine it's 10 times worse for a girl who probably has maids clean her room, chef's cook her dinner, gets everything she wants all because mommy and daddy are in the movies ::)
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Seriously. Get the belt out.
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If Bum makes his kids behave and show respect to their elders, I don't have any issues nor will I ever say anything about how he raises his kids.
Ding! :)
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Seriously. Get the belt out.
If they get out of line, go for the behind.
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Ding! :)
Exactly, most parents don't and society has seen the result of it.
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Exactly, most parents don't and society has seen the result of it.
Yep. I think there has been a massive failure on the part of far too many parents when it comes to teaching kids to respect not only the parents but elders in general.
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What Alec Baldwin did is not a big deal.. My mother used to hit me when I misbehaved and I'm actually glad she did because she enstilled in me proper manners and respect for other human beings.
My uncle hit one of my cousins after he swore at his teacher in school. The kid called the police and now lives in a home assigned to him by child care services. My uncle and aunt are pretty devestated, angry and to this day they don't even understand what they did wrong. I hear the kid has agreed to go back, but has grown attached to the family he's been living with because they're well off and american.
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Yep. I think there has been a massive failure on the part of far too many parents when it comes to teaching kids to respect not only the parents but elders in general.
Be honest you thought that for the most part OJ was innocent. ;D
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Yep. I think there has been a massive failure on the part of far too many parents when it comes to teaching kids to respect not only the parents but elders in general.
I put a kid in time out today (in one of my jobs) and he tried to hit me and I yelled at his little ass. If I tried to hit someone in authority at that age, my dad would have whipped the belt out faster than I could blink. It's really quite sad and if parents did punish (not necessarily spanking although it worked in the 40's and 50's ;D) then these little douches would act right.
What Alec Baldwin did is not a big deal.. My mother used to hit me when I misbehaved and I'm actually glad she did because she enstilled in me proper manners and respect for other human beings.
Exactly! A good ass whooping would go a long way in this world.
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Be honest you thought that for the most part OJ was innocent. ;D
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I put a kid in time out today (in one of my jobs) and he tried to hit me and I yelled at his little ass. If I tried to hit someone in authority at that age, my dad would have whipped the belt out faster than I could blink. It's really quite sad and if parents did punish (not necessarily spanking although it worked in the 40's and 50's ;D) then these little douches would act right.
Exactly! A good ass whooping would go a long way in this world.
Tell me about it.
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do you hear the way kids talk to their parents these days?
I imagine it's 10 times worse for a girl who probably has maids clean her room, chef's cook her dinner, gets everything she wants all because mommy and daddy are in the movies ::)
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You sound resentful of Ireland because she has famous parents.
What makes you think she's a spoiled brat or another Paris Hilton?
From everything I know, Ireland is a normal 11 yr old, and Kim is a very good mother.
Ps: What's at issue here is not "how kids talk to their parents these days" ...it is "how Alec talked to his kid!" 8)
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You sound resentful of Ireland because she has famous parents.
What makes you think she's a spoiled brat or another Paris Hilton?
From everything I know, Ireland is a normal 11 yr old, and Kim is a very good mother.
Ps: What's at issue here is not "how kids talk to their parents these days" ...it is "how Alec talked to his kid!" 8)
Chances are that she's a spoiled brat. If I were Alec Baldwin then I'd smack her and ground her for 100 days.
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You sound resentful of Ireland because she has famous parents.
What makes you think she's a spoiled brat or another Paris Hilton?
From everything I know, Ireland is a normal 11 yr old, and Kim is a very good mother.
Ps: What's at issue here is not "how kids talk to their parents these days" ...it is "how Alec talked to his kid!" 8)
That's one issue. Another is privacy. Another is what prompted this tirade.
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That's one issue. Another is privacy. Another is what prompted this tirade.
Delusional once again. Doesn't MATTER if she's a spoiled brat, don't talk to a kid like a sailor unless you want her to sound that way in future. Be smart, unlike bum.
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That's one issue. Another is privacy. Another is what prompted this tirade.
Possibly, ...however if my theory is correct, it nullifies those doesn't it? 8)
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Possibly, ...however if my theory is correct, it nullifies those doesn't it? 8)
Yeah. :-\
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You sound resentful of Ireland because she has famous parents.
What makes you think she's a spoiled brat or another Paris Hilton?
From everything I know, Ireland is a normal 11 yr old, and Kim is a very good mother.
Ps: What's at issue here is not "how kids talk to their parents these days" ...it is "how Alec talked to his kid!" 8)
if i'm resentful than that means you put celebrities on a pedestal ::)
from everything you know lol and how much could you possibly know about them and what goes on behind closed doors? ::)
the tabloids don't always print the whole story honey ;)
I believe that there are always two sides to the story and I don't beleive for a minute that alec would just freak out the way he did if she was consistently a grateful, caring, loving, little girl that treated her parents with respect
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if i'm resentful than that means you put celebrities on a pedestal ::)
from everything you know lol and how much could you possibly know about them and what goes on behind closed doors? ::)
the tabloids don't always print the whole story honey ;)
I believe that there are always two sides to the story and I don't beleive for a minute that alec would just freak out the way he did if she was consistently a grateful, caring, loving, little girl that treated her parents with respect
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I like the way you assume others are speculating meanwhile you give him the benefit of the doubt.. ::)
All we know for sure is that he's an out of control lout. That's confirmed.
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I like the way you assume others are speculating meanwhile you give him the benefit of the doubt.. ::)
All we know for sure is that he's an out of control lout. That's confirmed.
it has been confirmed that you are an assclown :)
he may have a temper, but that girl isn't innocent
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Having a temper makes you human, not a bad parent. There is nothing wrong with yelling to discipline. The past 10 years of parenting have shown us what "playing nice" has done to kids.
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Delusional once again. Doesn't MATTER if she's a spoiled brat, don't talk to a kid like a sailor unless you want her to sound that way in future. Be smart, unlike bum.
A sailor? Did he curse at her? I didn't hear anything that was even newsworthy... Just admit it people, you don't like Baldwin... Fess up so the rest of us can move on.
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Having a temper makes you human, not a bad parent. There is nothing wrong with yelling to discipline. The past 10 years of parenting have shown us what "playing nice" has done to kids.
Yes. What's disturbing is that people are trying to debate this shit. News Flash: Not your fucking business how parents choose to discipline their kids.
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Yes. What's disturbing is that people are trying to debate this shit. News Flash: Not your fucking business how parents choose to discipline their kids.
I agree... as long as she's not out endangering society, then they're doing a good job. (as parents)
Nothing else is your concern.
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Washington Post:
Last week's prizewinner in the misdirected apology sweepstakes was the actor Alec Baldwin, who got caught on tape calling his 11-year-old daughter a "rude, thoughtless little pig" who lacked "brains or decency as a human being." Baldwin issued an apology on (where else?) his personal Web site. "Although I have been told by numerous people not to worry too much, as all parents lose patients with their kids, I am most saddened that this was released to the media because of what it does to a child...I am sorry for what happened. But I am equally sorry that a court order was violated."
Baldwin's language is revealing--what "it" does to a child. How about what he did to his child? Baldwin ought to be on his knees to his daughter, and he ought to be seeing a therapist who, perhaps, can make him understand the impact of such words on a young girl when they come from her father. But he probably prefers the reassurances of sycophants who tell him that "all parents lose patience with their kids." Yes, they do. But all parents don't call their kids pigs.
A final mark of the non-apologetic apology is the statement, "It's time to put this behind us." Translation: I want to put this behind me. Again, this sort of weasel-like apology occurs in both public and private life.
In private life, the non-apologetic apology shifts the burden from the offender to the offended. A cheating spouse says, "I'm sorry you were hurt." Translation: "If only you would stop making such a fuss and stop crying your eyes out, we could get back to normal."
In 21st-century America, unearned forgiveness is the secular twin of cheap grace. They mean the same thing: the apologizer expects to be forgiven simply because he says that he's sorry.
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Washington Post:
Last week's prizewinner in the misdirected apology sweepstakes was the actor Alec Baldwin, who got caught on tape calling his 11-year-old daughter a "rude, thoughtless little pig" who lacked "brains or decency as a human being." Baldwin issued an apology on (where else?) his personal Web site. "Although I have been told by numerous people not to worry too much, as all parents lose patients with their kids, I am most saddened that this was released to the media because of what it does to a child...I am sorry for what happened. But I am equally sorry that a court order was violated."
Baldwin's language is revealing--what "it" does to a child. How about what he did to his child? Baldwin ought to be on his knees to his daughter, and he ought to be seeing a therapist who, perhaps, can make him understand the impact of such words on a young girl when they come from her father. But he probably prefers the reassurances of sycophants who tell him that "all parents lose patience with their kids." Yes, they do. But all parents don't call their kids pigs.
A final mark of the non-apologetic apology is the statement, "It's time to put this behind us." Translation: I want to put this behind me. Again, this sort of weasel-like apology occurs in both public and private life.
I wouldn't have even done that... I would have said "Fuck you" for telling my how to raise my child.
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I wouldn't have even done that... I would have said "Fuck you" for telling my how to raise my child.
The problem is the assumption that (1) you have all the answers and (2) that being a parent allows you to do what the hell you please. NOPE ;D
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The problem is the assumption that (1) you have all the answers and (2) that being a parent allows you to do what the hell you please. NOPE ;D
Actually, it's not a problem... as a parent, (1) You DO have all of the answers for your kid, and (2) being a parent DOES allow me to keep my kids in check... sometimes it's not so nice, but sometimes kids aren't.
How many kids do you have?
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Actually, it's not a problem... as a parent, (1) You DO have all of the answers for your kid, and (2) being a parent DOES allow me to keep my kids in check... sometimes it's not so nice, but sometimes kids aren't.
Wrong answers. Never assume you know everything or that you always know the best way. If you do you're really no different from out-of-control-and-clueless-about-it Baldwin. Neither of you questions your judgement, not healthy.
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Yes. What's disturbing is that people are trying to debate this shit. News Flash: Not your fucking business how parents choose to discipline their kids.
Thank you. I heard stories from my grandpas about their form of discipline and I feel lucky. He told me if he did what he did then in the current day, he would be in jail. Kids today have it far easier and the results are shown in their behavior. It's stupid that someone can tell me how to raise and discipline my child (when I have them). I will spank and yell if necessary. The belt will quell any disturbance. The wooden spoon is good back up.
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Actually, it's not a problem... as a parent, (1) You DO have all of the answers for your kid, and (2) being a parent DOES allow me to keep my kids in check... sometimes it's not so nice, but sometimes kids aren't.
How many kids do you have?
My guess is none.
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Baldwin in the midst of an even bigger meltdown, and a judge already realize what some others don't::D
Baldwin makes TV apology, consults Dr Phil
April 27, 2007
Axtor Alec Baldwin will apologise to his daughter on national television later today for calling her a "thoughtless little pig", according to excerpts from a pre-taped ABC interview.
Appearing on The View for his first TV interview since he left a ranting voice-mail message to his 11-year-old daughter that was made public last week on the internet, Baldwin said he was ready to give up acting after nearly 30 years and lobby for reforms in divorce, parental visitation and custody laws.
"I would like to devote myself to the cause of parental alienation," the 49-year-old star said on The View airing today (US time).
He said he was finishing work on a book about divorce to be published in September.
Baldwin said he had asked the NBC network to let him quit his co-starring role as an egoistic TV executive on the popular sitcom 30 Rock. But the network indicated it would not let Baldwin out of his contract. "We look forward to having him continue his role in the show," NBC said. The network already had renewed the series for a second season.
Dr Phil, who offered on the CNN talk show Larry King Live to counsel the family, said Baldwin had given him permission to disclose that they had talked and that he also had "reached out privately" to Basinger.
"Obviously, calling your child a pig or anything else is improper and inappropriate, and I apologise to my daughter for that," Baldwin said. "There's nothing wrong with being frustrated or angry ... I took it out on the wrong person."
A Los Angeles family law judge who listened to the tape suspended Baldwin's visitation rights last week and set a hearing for May 4, at which time Baldwin could face further restrictions on his contact with the child.
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Baldwin in the midst of an even bigger meltdown, and a judge already realize what some others don't::D
Baldwin makes TV apology, consults Dr Phil
April 27, 2007
Axtor Alec Baldwin will apologise to his daughter on national television later today for calling her a "thoughtless little pig", according to excerpts from a pre-taped ABC interview.
Appearing on The View for his first TV interview since he left a ranting voice-mail message to his 11-year-old daughter that was made public last week on the internet, Baldwin said he was ready to give up acting after nearly 30 years and lobby for reforms in divorce, parental visitation and custody laws.
"I would like to devote myself to the cause of parental alienation," the 49-year-old star said on The View airing today (US time).
He said he was finishing work on a book about divorce to be published in September.
Baldwin said he had asked the NBC network to let him quit his co-starring role as an egoistic TV executive on the popular sitcom 30 Rock. But the network indicated it would not let Baldwin out of his contract. "We look forward to having him continue his role in the show," NBC said. The network already had renewed the series for a second season.
Dr Phil, who offered on the CNN talk show Larry King Live to counsel the family, said Baldwin had given him permission to disclose that they had talked and that he also had "reached out privately" to Basinger.
"Obviously, calling your child a pig or anything else is improper and inappropriate, and I apologise to my daughter for that," Baldwin said. "There's nothing wrong with being frustrated or angry ... I took it out on the wrong person."
A Los Angeles family law judge who listened to the tape suspended Baldwin's visitation rights last week and set a hearing for May 4, at which time Baldwin could face further restrictions on his contact with the child.
Hahaha!!!
Who gives a shit what Dr. Phil thinks?
Oh, and fuck that judge too... He's getting into some shit he shouldn't be.
I think when it's all said and done, every one of you haters will not like the ending so much.
Dr. Phil is a guy who's no smarter than anyone else, but happened to get on Oprah's show and all of a sudden every stay at home Mom / Wife on the planet thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread...
Hahahaha!
Fuck Dr. Phil too... If he tried to tell me how to raise my child, I'd tell him to fuck off to his face.
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Hahaha!!!
Who gives a shit what Dr. Phil thinks?
Oh, and fuck that judge too... He's getting into some shit he shouldn't be.
I think when it's all said and done, every one of you haters will not like the ending so much.
Dr. Phil is a guy who's no smarter than anyone else, but happened to get on Oprah's show and all of a sudden every stay at home Mom / Wife on the planet thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread...
Hahahaha!
Fuck Dr. Phil too... If he tried to tell me how to raise my child, I'd tell him to fuck off to his face.
Dr. Phil is joke who is the public face of his wife's ideas. A total waste of life and everyone take his words as Gospel. HE does have have a nice set though. Lol.
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Dr. Phil is joke who is the public face of his wife's ideas. A total waste of life and everyone take his words as Gospel. HE does have have a nice set though. Lol.
He really does doesn't he.
Hahaha... Dr. Phorgot to grow a pair.
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if i'm resentful than that means you put celebrities on a pedestal ::)
Trust me honey, I don't put celebrities on a pedestal.
I know too many of them and too much about them to ever be so disillusioned.
from everything you know lol and how much could you possibly know about them and what goes on behind closed doors? ::)
the tabloids don't always print the whole story honey ;)
You make the mistake of assuming my knowledge of certain celebrities comes from the tabloids. It doesn't.
I discount most everything that comes from tabloids because I'm well aware of how they operate. When you are present at a certain event, and later go on to see reports in the tabloids about supposed incidents that occurred which is about 180 degrees from what actually happened, you learn pretty fast to discount it. There's alot I don't comment on, but when it comes to Kim and Alec, I've seen it close up and in person. I worked with both of them for extended periods, and I can assure you, Ireland is NOT a spoiled brat. Alec is completely out of control, and is a very arrogant, and abusive individual. He has no clue as to why he alienates everyone around him. The sooner he gets therapy, the better off he will be, the better parent he will be, and the better off Ireland will be.
I believe that there are always two sides to the story and I don't beleive for a minute that alec would just freak out the way he did if she was consistently a grateful, caring, loving, little girl that treated her parents with respect
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If you read his apology, you will see he admitted to taking out his frustration on the wrong person.
The man is a bully who is used to bullying his way around and getting his way. He can neither forgive or forget that he fvcked up with Kim and she doesn't want him anymore. He cannot have her, and he takes out his frustrations on his daughter as a result. After years of abuse, Kim put her foot down, left his ass, is not looking back, and this is one situation he cannot get his way, ...and it's driving him CRAZZZY! If he does not get help, ...that problem is going to grow and grow. The more Ireland grows up, and the more she looks like her mother, the worse the hostility and resentment will become because his daughter has the face of the woman he hates.
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Oh, and fuck that judge too... He's getting into some shit he shouldn't be.
I can see that going over quite well in the custody hearing. I'd love to hear Baldwin tell a judge to go fvck himself
That oughtta end this nightmare for all concerned once and for all. ;D
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The degree of black and white thinking here under the premise of tough luv is frightening. It ain't that simple, guys. Baldwin's trauma has finally forced reality on him in ways he previously couldn't see any better than "youse guys". Now finally he doesn't share your certainties thanks to this revelation. ;D
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The degree of black and white thinking supported under the theory of tough luv is frightening. It ain't that simple, guys. Baldwin's trauma has finally forced reality on him in ways he previously didn't see any better than "youse guys".
I can see that going over quite well in the custody hearing. I'd love to hear Baldwin tell a judge to go fvck himself
That oughtta end this nightmare for all concerned once and for all. ;D
Trust me honey, I don't put celebrities on a pedestal.
I know too many of them and too much about them to ever be so disillusioned.
You make the mistake of assuming my knowledge of certain celebrities comes from the tabloids. It doesn't.
I discount most everything that comes from tabloids because I'm well aware of how they operate. When you are present at a certain event, and later go on to see reports in the tabloids about supposed incidents that occurred which is about 180 degrees from what actually happened, you learn pretty fast to discount it. There's alot I don't comment on, but when it comes to Kim and Alec, I've seen it close up and in person. I worked with both of them for extended periods, and I can assure you, Ireland is NOT a spoiled brat. Alec is completely out of control, and is a very arrogant, and abusive individual. He has no clue as to why he alienates everyone around him. The sooner he gets therapy, the better off he will be, the better parent he will be, and the better off Ireland will be.
If you read his apology, you will see he admitted to taking out his frustration on the wrong person.
The man is a bully who is used to bullying his way around and getting his way. He can neither forgive or forget that he fvcked up with Kim and she doesn't want him anymore. He cannot have her, and he takes out his frustrations on his daughter as a result. After years of abuse, Kim put her foot down, left his ass, is not looking back, and this is one situation he cannot get his way, ...and it's driving him CRAZZZY! If he does not get help, ...that problem is going to grow and grow. The more Ireland grows up, and the more she looks like her mother, the worse the hostility and resentment will become because his daughter has the face of the woman he hates.
Sorry guys, but every bit of this is "blah blah blah".
You can talk all you want, but if anyone tells me how to raise my kids, it's their ass.
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Sorry guys, but every bit of this is "blah blah blah".
You can talk all you want, but if anyone tells me how to raise my kids, it's their ass.
No problem, i hope your kids turn out ok anyway.
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No problem, i hope your kids turn out ok anyway.
They will, because I make them.
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They will, because I make them.
I have a feeling we'll be reading about them in the news one day.
How they rebelled and went postal, ...or how Tu is getting locked away for abusing his kids and telling the judge to go fvck himself. ;D If I miss the headline, ...please... someone send me the newspaper clipping. ;D
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I have a feeling we'll be reading about them in the news one day.
How they rebelled and went postal, ...or how Tu is getting locked away for abusing his kids and telling the judge to go fvck himself. ;D If I miss the headline, ...please... someone send me the newspaper clipping. ;D
And then you woke up from your fairy tale.
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They will, because I make them.
Tu I think we have a different perspective because we're actually raising kids. I take comments from those who haven't walked the walk with a grain of salt.
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Tu I think we have a different perspective because we're actually raising kids. I take comments from those who haven't walked the walk with a grain of salt.
Nice that when they can't answer to it, they say my kids are going to become criminals...
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Nice that when they can't answer to it, they say my kids are going to become criminals...
Dude who cares what they think? You know you're doing the right thing. Don't let some arm chair parent tell you otherwise.
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Dude who cares what they think? You know you're doing the right thing. Don't let some arm chair parent tell you otherwise.
Arm chair parent?? ??? I'll have you know I parent from the couch, the recliner, the back seat, and at a distance, ...but NEVER from an armchair! Hrmph!
Not to take away from those who parent full time day in / day out... I know it's a heckuva tough job,
...and that's why I don't do it. I wouldn't want to mess up a little person, ...and believe me when I say I could. :P
I just believe that what Baldwin was doing was NOT parenting, but lashing out at his ex-wife, using his kid.
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Tu I think we have a different perspective because we're actually raising kids. I take comments from those who haven't walked the walk with a grain of salt.
This is a superb rationalization, one that Baldwin would've been proud of incidentally. Now he's been forcibly shown lucidity while you soldier on.
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You all should get real and stop apologizing for an abuser.
His temper is out of control and has been for a number of years.
Too many people have quit their jobs rather than opt to be around that ticking time bomb.
And no Cap, ..."normal" parents do not talk to their children that way.
If that was "normal" in your household... well, ...I'll just say I'm glad you got through it.
It doesn't however mean she should be subjected to that kind of abuse.
He has anger issues, and until he is able to cope properly, she should not be subjected to his abuse.
Prozac would mellow Baldwin out. The guy needs to be medicated bigtime.
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This is a superb rationalization, one that Baldwin would've been proud of incidentally. Now he's been forcibly shown lucidity while you soldier on.
lol. What?? "Forcibly shown lucidity"? What the heck does that mean? lol. . . . Do you talk like this in real life? lol . . . .
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lol. What?? "Forcily shown lucidity"? What the heck does that mean? lol. . . . Do you talk like this in real life? lol . . . .
Dude you consistently get things wrong, don't worry about me and start with baby steps of common sense. Your kidz have my sympathies given your dementia. Just remember that when they get bigger payback will be sweet. :'(
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Prozac would mellow Baldwin out. The guy needs to be medicated bigtime.
Bum too. Complete and utter denial.
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Dude you consistently get things wrong, don't worry about me and start with baby steps of common sense. Your kidz have my sympathies given your dementia. Just remember that when they get bigger payback will be sweet. :'(
Perhaps I'll be "forcibly shown lucidity" one day. LOL. That's really funny. ;D LOL . . .
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Actually, it's not a problem... as a parent, (1) You DO have all of the answers for your kid, and (2) being a parent DOES allow me to keep my kids in check... sometimes it's not so nice, but sometimes kids aren't.
How many kids do you have?
Bump. Inquiring minds want to know. :)
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Jag, do YOU EVEN HAVE CHILDREN? ::)
What you need is a cock shoved in your mouth to calm you down.
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Bump. Inquiring minds want to know. :)
We already know the answer to this don't we?
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Jag, do YOU EVEN HAVE CHILDREN? ::)
::) Like you do? , ...and no CJ, herbal saplings don't count. ;)
One does not need to poop a litter of kittens to participate in raising them.
I've cared for and participated in the raising of MANY children, from newborns into their teens.
No, they were not biologically mine, however for all intents & purposes, I've raised kids.
What you need is a cock shoved in your mouth to calm you down.
I can think of a better place that would work waaaaaaay better.
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I think it's only fitting to let Alec have the last word, ...even if it does back up what pumpster & I say
Alec Baldwin in his own words about "What He Has Learned" (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/ver/228/popup/index.php?cl=2530216). <--click me
See Tu, BB, Cap, and all the other idiots, this wasn't a spoiled brat acting up,
...it was a frustrated bully acting out, ...and on the wrong person.
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We already know the answer to this don't we?
I HOPE we know the answer. Some people are better off not breeding. :)
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I think it's only fitting to let Alec have the last word, ...even if it does back up what pumpster & I say
Alec Baldwin in his own words about "What He Has Learned" (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/ver/228/popup/index.php?cl=2530216). <--click me
See Tu, BB, Cap, and all the other idiots, this wasn't a spoiled brat acting up,
...it was a frustrated bully acting out, ...and on the wrong person.
I see. So he was supposed to come out on national TV and talk about what "pig" his daughter was. Right. ::)
Why don't you do the bold, color thing when you're wrong?
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I HOPE we know the answer. Some people are better off not breeding. :)
Too late unfortunately for some. ::)
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This is for getbig "fathers" - biological fathers only, apparently. I've highlighted the parts you don't get, at no charge. Your enlightenment awaits.
It’s time for Alec to get smart
Saturday, April 28, 2007
Hollywood hothead Alec Baldwin served up a lame apology yesterday on “The View,” where he blasted the media and vowed to give up his acting career to devote himself to the “cause of parental alienation.”
Baldwin, 49, taped an interview for the ABC chatfest in an attempt to repair his tarnished image following the firestorm sparked by the release of the angry voice mail he left his 11-year-old daughter.
Sandwiched between co-hosts Rosie O’Donnell and Barbara Walters, the unshaven and tense-looking actor teared up at times, dissed ex-wife Kim Basinger and said people who work in the tabloid media are filled with “self-hatred” and “shame.”
“Obviously, calling your child a pig or anything else is improper and inappropriate, and I apologize to my daughter for that,” said Baldwin, who also apologized to any others who may have been offended.
“There’s nothing wrong with being frustrated or angry about the situation. It’s the way you do it, and as people often do in this world, I took it out on the wrong person,” he added.
High-powered New York publicist Howard Rubenstein said Baldwin’s pledge to quit acting was a bit over the top and that he shouldn’t have pointed fingers. “He ought to keep repeating, ‘I did wrong,’ and then I think it would sound credible,” Rubenstein said.
Doug Bailey of Rasky Baerlein Strategic Communications said Baldwin’s appearance has “opened new avenues of debate” about his character, parenting and the sincerity of his lifelong pledge to the issue of parental alienation.
“The strategy should have been go on, make your apology, explain your action, take your punishment and end it there,” Bailey said.
And blaming the media - even if it’s true - is never a good idea, he said.“You just don’t get very far blaming the media for your troubles,” Bailey said.
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::) Like you do? , ...and no CJ, herbal saplings don't count. ;)
One does not need to poop a litter of kittens to participate in raising them.
I've cared for and participated in the raising of MANY children, from newborns into their teens.
No, they were not biologically mine, however for all intents & purposes, I've raised kids.
I can think of a better place that would work waaaaaaay better.
Jag, the kid is gonna inherit millions.. I'm sure she wont be scarred because her pop yelled at her. And even if she is, she'll have millions to drown her sorrows.
Notice how kids these days, especially the rich ones, are out of control? Don't you think that has something to do with lack of stern discipline from parents?
This was wayyy over blown and you know it. I mean it's nobody's business that he called his kid a "pig"
Howcome two canadians are the only ones in uproaor over this little incident? :-\
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Jag, the kid is gonna inherit millions.. I'm sure she wont be scarred because her pop yelled at her. And even if she is, she'll have millions to drown her sorrows.
Clearly you don't have money. ::)
Notice how kids these days, especially the rich ones, are out of control? Don't you think that has something to do with lack of stern discipline from parents?
I notice alot of kids out of control, both rich & poor. The majority are poor, ...but it's the rich ones who get the attention. In any event Ireland is NOT an out of control kid. She does have an out-of-control father. What Baldwin did was not discipline. It was a megalomaniacal abusive rant against an innocent person.
This was wayyy over blown and you know it. I mean it's nobody's business that he called his kid a "pig"
But when kids are constantly abused to the point where they exhibit anti-social behaviour it's our tax dollars that are spent on locking them up isn't it? An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.
Howcome two canadians are the only ones in uproaor over this little incident? :-\
Possibly because we're the ones that hail from a civilized country where people know right from wrong. 8)
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you don't live with ireland
stop acting like you know exactly the type of girl she is ::)
anybody actually given the name "ireland" was born to be a snotty little bitch :)
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I think it's only fitting to let Alec have the last word, ...even if it does back up what pumpster & I say
Alec Baldwin in his own words about "What He Has Learned" (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/ver/228/popup/index.php?cl=2530216). <--click me
See Tu, BB, Cap, and all the other idiots, this wasn't a spoiled brat acting up,
...it was a frustrated bully acting out, ...and on the wrong person.
He pussed out... You can point out whatever you want... He did nothing wrong.
Think whatever you want... He truly doesn't think he did either, and I wouldn't if I were him.
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I notice alot of kids out of control, both rich & poor. The majority are poor, ...but it's the rich ones who get the attention. In any event Ireland is NOT an out of control kid. She does have an out-of-control father. What Baldwin did was not discipline. It was a megalomaniacal abusive rant against an innocent person.
Wrong...
But when kids are constantly abused to the point where they exhibit anti-social behaviour it's our tax dollars that are spent on locking them up isn't it? An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.
You don't live in that house... you don't know that ANYONE is being constantly abused... You don't live with any of them, you're talking about something you just don't know.
Possibly because we're the ones that hail from a civilized country where people know right from wrong. 8)
Haha... you think you're more civilized? Also wrong, but the reality is, this isn't about your civility, this is about you guys not having kids, and those of us that do thinking you need to mind your own business... You're not civilized, you're busy bodies... What's civilized about that?
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ahhhh... isn't that cute? :P
Tu, ...has anyone ever told you that you're a real cutie-patootie when you meltdown? :P well you are...
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ahhhh... isn't that cute? :P
Tu, ...has anyone ever told you that you're a real cutie-patootie when you meltdown? :P well you are...
LOL Imagine what the kidz have to put up with.. :-[
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Pussy parenting nowadays is why kids are fucked up in this country.
Making the same mistake in black & white assumptions. It's one thing to be firm as a parent and another altogether to be heavy-handed including verbal abuse.
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anybody actually given the name "ireland" was born to be a snotty little bitch :)
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Baldwin: "You are a pig."
Ireland: "Ewwwwwwwwwwww"
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ahhhh... isn't that cute? :P
Tu, ...has anyone ever told you that you're a real cutie-patootie when you meltdown? :P well you are...
That's not a meltdown... far from it... You don't know me, or my family.
More 'guessing' from Jags... You're cute when you don't know what you talk about though. ;)
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LOL Imagine what the kidz have to put up with.. :-[
Wow... another person who doesn't know anything about my family. Good job pumpster!
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Clearly you don't have money. ::)
I notice alot of kids out of control, both rich & poor. The majority are poor, ...but it's the rich ones who get the attention. In any event Ireland is NOT an out of control kid. She does have an out-of-control father. What Baldwin did was not discipline. It was a megalomaniacal abusive rant against an innocent person.
But when kids are constantly abused to the point where they exhibit anti-social behaviour it's our tax dollars that are spent on locking them up isn't it? An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.
Possibly because we're the ones that hail from a civilized country where people know right from wrong. 8)
We know Baldwin is a cokehead, but how do you she did nothing wrong? Shit happens and I'm sure he made up to her by buying her some expensive shit.
I don't think we'll be locking up Ireland anytime soon, jag. If you're trying to bring attention to abused children, don't use this incident because it's a lousy example.
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Making the same mistake in black & white assumptions. It's one thing to be firm as a parent and another altogether to be heavy-handed including verbal abuse.
Baldwin is probably a shitty parent. Still, I don't feel sorry for his kid because she's fucking rich and making a big deal of a few words said to her is overblowing things.
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ahhhh... isn't that cute? :P
Tu, ...has anyone ever told you that you're a real cutie-patootie when you meltdown? :P well you are...
Didn't you say the same thing to Berserker?
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Wow... another person who doesn't know anything about my family. Good job pumpster!
And he doesn't have any kids. What a clown. Tu I think you need to be "forcibly shown lucidity." :)
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And he doesn't have any kids. What a clown.
And when he finally does have kids, maybe he can show them how to bench 400 lbs on a bowflex. haha ;D
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And he doesn't have any kids. What a clown. Tu I think you need to be "forcibly shown lucidity." :)
Anyone is more than welcome to try and "force" lucidity upon me... :D
It's pretty simple... If you have kids, you get an opinion, but only how to raise your own kids... If you have no kids, you really don't get any opinion on how to raise any of them.
To quote the infamous getbig phrase...
"Hope this helps."
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And when he finally does have kids, maybe he can show them how to bench 400 lbs on a bowflex. haha ;D
lol. Does he really use a bowflex?
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Anyone is more than welcome to try and "force" lucidity upon me... :D
It's pretty simple... If you have kids, you get an opinion, but only how to raise your own kids... If you have no kids, you really don't get any opinion on how to raise any of them.
To quote the infamous getbig phrase...
"Hope this helps."
I completely agree.
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I completely agree.
What a shocker; at least you're not predictable. ;D
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What a shocker; at least you're not predictable. ;D
As predictable as you, yes?
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Didn't you say the same thing to Berserker?
No, ...I said Berserker was sexy when he got angry.
Tu is a cutie-patootie when he has a meltsdown.
There's a difference between being sexy, ...and being a cutie-patootie.
But considering how long you've been married, ...I doubt you'd know the difference even if I explained it.
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No, ...I said Berserker was sexy when he got angry.
Tu is a cutie-patootie when he has a meltsdown.
There's a difference between being sexy, ...and being a cutie-patootie.
But considering how long you've been married, ...I doubt you'd know the difference even if I explained it.
Thanks for clearing that up. ::) Sounds like a tired, overused line to me.
And when you've been married for 18 years to the same person, we can have a discussion about marriage.
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No, ...I said Berserker was sexy when he got angry.
Tu is a cutie-patootie when he has a meltsdown.
There's a difference between being sexy, ...and being a cutie-patootie.
But considering how long you've been married, ...I doubt you'd know the difference even if I explained it.
Thanks for clearing that up. ::) Sounds like a tired, overused line to me.
And when you've been married for 18 years to the same person, we can have a discussion about marriage.
I can't be sexy... I'm too young for her. ;)
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Thanks for clearing that up. ::) Sounds like a tired, overused line to me.
And when you've been married for 18 years to the same person, we can have a discussion about marriage.
I smell divorce looming.
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I can't be sexy... I'm too young for her. ;)
lol. Me too. :)
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lol. Me too. :)
Liar liar pants on fire!!! ;D
ps - If they're under 21, ya then I'd say they were a bit too young.
The other day I had to visit my neighbour, and when I rang the doorbell, ...and her son answered... :o
I took one look at this kid, and had to take a deep breath and calm myself.
Tall, straight, 6' 4", drop dead gorgeous smile, with the wickedest twinkle in his eye, ...and barely 21.
Hahahaha, He looked like the little Oooom-bop kid from Hansen hit puberty and stayed cute.
I'd met all her other sons, ...but this one I'd never seen before. Long legs, flat abs, took it all in in 2 sec.
He made naughty thoughts race through my mind. I'd never go there, ...but ...I did think about it. :-[
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Liar liar pants on fire!!! ;D
ps - If they're under 21, ya then I'd say they were a bit too young.
The other day I had to visit my neighbour, and when I rang the doorbell, ...and her son answered... :o
I took one look at this kid, and had to take a deep breath and calm myself.
Tall, straight, 6' 4", drop dead gorgeous smile, with the wickedest twinkle in his eye, ...and barely 21.
Hahahaha, He looked like the little Oooom-bop kid from Hansen hit puberty and stayed cute.
I'd met all her other sons, ...but this one I'd never seen before. Long legs, flat abs, took it all in in 2 sec.
He made naughty thoughts race through my mind. I'd never go there, ...but ...I did think about it. :-[
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120703/
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120703/
ummm... not exactly, ...if I'm not mistaken, Terri got herself a gay dude, who took all her money. :o
...more like... Brigitte Bardot in À coeur joie (1967) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062534/plotsummary) ...except my Englishman is common sense and societal mores.
But he was a cutie. :P
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...more like... Brigitte Bardot in
My pick for hottest chick ever on the face of the planet (and Beverly Hills)
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ummm... not exactly, ...if I'm not mistaken, Terri got herself a gay dude, who took all her money. :o
...more like... Brigitte Bardot in À coeur joie (1967) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062534/plotsummary) ...except my Englishman is common sense and societal mores.
But he was a cutie. :P
Ummm . . . . Stella's May December was not gay.
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Ummm . . . . Stella's May December was not gay.
But Terri MacMillan's was, ...and it was her personal experience that was the basis for her book.
Terri was Stella. Please try to keep up. ::)
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But Terri MacMillan's was, ...and it was her personal experience that was the basis for her book.
Terri was Stella. Please try to keep up. ::)
I posted a link to How Stella Got Her Grove Back. It's a movie about an old woman who hooks up with a younger man. IN THE MOVIE, the man is not gay and there is a happy ending. Hope this helps. ::)
P.S. You would be the old woman in the movie.
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I posted a link to How Stella Got Her Grove Back. It's a movie about an old woman who hooks up with a younger man. IN THE MOVIE, the man is not gay and there is a happy ending. Hope this helps. ::)
P.S. You would be the old woman in the movie.
Before 'How Stella got her groove back' was a movie, ...it was book, a very successful one that inspired the movie.
It was based on Terri Macmillan's true life adventure. She wasn't OLD, just grumpy from not getting any.
She went to Jamaica and found herself a yound stud. In reality tho, ...he turned out to be gay, and took her for her money. This is the real ending to the story... which only culminated last year.
ps: I'm hardly an old woman so stop trying to deceive the readers.
I'm only 21 ... ok... maybe not 21, but certainly not old! >:(
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Before 'How Stella got her groove back' was a movie, ...it was book, a very successful one that inspired the movie.
It was based on Terri Macmillan's true life adventure. She wasn't OLD, just grumpy from not getting any.
She went to Jamaica and found herself a yound stud. In reality tho, ...he turned out to be gay, and took her for her money. This is the real ending to the story... which only culminated last year.
ps: I'm hardly an old woman so stop trying to deceive the readers.
I'm only 21 ... ok... maybe not 21, but certainly not old! >:(
I know the story behind the movie. My link referenced the movie. In the real life story, the younger man didn't come out of the closet till AFTER the movie was made. And of course you wouldn't consider her old, tutu. :D
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I posted a link to How Stella Got Her Grove Back. It's a movie about an old woman who hooks up with a younger man. IN THE MOVIE, the man is not gay and there is a happy ending. Hope this helps. ::)
P.S. You would be the old woman in the movie.
Bum n' Tu starring in Grumpy old Men LOL
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Bum n' Tu starring in Grumpy old Men LOL
Except that Jags is much older than I am... Way too old for me at least.
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Except that Jags is much older than I am... Way too old for me at least.
:D
Basically admitting immaturity. ;)
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Basically admitting immaturity. ;)
Actually, it's admitting that she's old.
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Actually, it's admitting that she's old.
Tasteless & classless remark, and not accurate as far as i know. For future reference since you don't comprehend, middle age isn't old. It only seems that way now due to your narrow perspectives. Actually your conservative points of view make you in effect older than her, without your realization.
Hope this helps; enjoy Grumpy Old Men it fits. ;)
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Tasteless & classless remark, and not accurate as far as i know. For future reference since you don't comprehend, middle age isn't old. It only seems that way now due to your narrow perspectives. Actually your conservative points of view make you in effect older than her, without your realization.
Hope this helps; enjoy Grumpy Old Men it fits. ;)
This shows you pay no attention... I am as liberal as anyone... I am conservative about "this" issue, and about gun control.
Please go look at my past posts to see how absolutely incorrect you are about me.
You have proven your lack of attention.
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This shows you pay no attention... I am as liberal as anyone... I am conservative about "this" issue, and about gun control.
Please go look at my past posts to see how absolutely incorrect you are about me.
You have proven your lack of attention.
Tu telling it like it is ........... 8)
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You have proven your lack of attention.
he always does :-\
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lol. Does he really use a bowflex?
Yes and he claims to have gotten up to 400 lbs resistance! ;D
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This shows you pay no attention... I am as liberal as anyone... I am conservative about "this" issue, and about gun control.
Please go look at my past posts to see how absolutely incorrect you are about me.
You have proven your lack of attention.
Who can read all the way through this self-indulgent tripe? *yawn*
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Here's the call:
Sounds fine to me.
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Who can read all the way through this self-indulgent tripe? *yawn*
Three sentences too complex for you? I understand...
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Who can read all the way through this self-indulgent tripe? *yawn*
How do go about doing deadlifts on a bowflex? And do you aspire to look like that 49 year old dude in the Blowflex ad? You know, the guy named Michael Polinko.. hahaha ;D
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Yes and he claims to have gotten up to 400 lbs resistance! ;D
Doh! Not the Bowflex. lol. . . . That's funny! I would expect more from someone named "pumpster." lol . . .