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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: BRUCE on February 11, 2007, 06:03:39 PM
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Okay mob, it's becoming more and more evident we don't have a reliable Moderator to offset the views of Beserker and Ozmo around here. Therefore, after having both of these two throw their hats into the ring, I nominate the following Getbiggers to replace Delusional Liberal:
- Mr. Intenseone
- Cap86
Please feel free to review the posts of both of these candidates to evaluate their viability - I will then bring this thread to Ron's attention so that he may make an informed opinion. I would like to clarify that I in no way feel it is my prerogative to decide who represents this half of the board. I will give my opinion just as all of you will.
State your case, guys.
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moderating has nothing to do with views ... nobody needs to, or is going to be replaced
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moderating has nothing to do with views ... nobody needs to, or is going to be replaced
If only it were your choice. But it isn't, so speculate away guys.
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Are you claiming Bruce, that you're being discriminated against by moderators?
Neither Berserker nor Ozmo are going to post any more or less, or change the content of their threads, regardless of who's moderating, so what difference does it make?
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Well personally I think it would be fine either way between Joe and I.
I think we both represent the Right well and are regular posters here and elsewhere, especially on the topics concerning the left/right.
Although I know I will hear flack from Jaguar and Rob, I would not be biased and delete things that I do not believe in like other mods (none here) have been known to do.
If any have questions about anything else feel free to ask me here or PM me.
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Are you claiming Bruce, that you're being discriminated against by moderators?
Neither Berserker nor Ozmo are going to post any more or less, or change the content of their threads, regardless of who's moderating, so what difference does it make?
Discriminated against? Maybe - not that I mind having a heated debate against guys like Beserker, I quite enjoy it.
I think we need more balance in the Moderation here, do you not think that is a reasonable request, Deedee?
Thanks to whoever made this thread a sticky, I think we need some good debate on this.
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Discriminated against? Maybe - not that I mind having a heated debate against guys like Beserker, I quite enjoy it.
I think we need more balance in the Moderation here, do you not think that is a reasonable request, Deedee?
Thanks to whoever made this thread a sticky, I think we need some good debate on this.
but if people are happy with delusion, my vote is that he stays, I would like to see him in the forum more, but... If someone new becomes mod, there will be a few agreements to go over dealing with merging threads and general stuff so that mods aren't at war with eachother. It's worked like a charm so far so if there is a change, don't think it's going to come with world dominance power ;D I am not for any moderation that hinders free thought in this forum. Any canditate that doesn't want allow for heated debates does not have my vote. Again, this forum wan't broke, it doesn't need fixed. I fine tuned the rules as there was an issue with calling people out, but that's minor shit.
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Well personally I think it would be fine either way between Joe and I.
I think we both represent the Right well and are regular posters here and elsewhere, especially on the topics concerning the left/right.
Although I know I will hear flack from Jaguar and Rob, I would not be biased and delete things that I do not believe in like other mods (none here) have been known to do.
If any have questions about anything else feel free to ask me here or PM me.
Cap, what are your views on the following:
- Socialist states (eg. Cuba, Venezuela)
- Global Warming
- Iraq
Also, what religion, if any, do you follow?
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but if people are happy with delusion, my vote is that he stays, I would like to see him in the forum more, but... If someone new becomes mod, there will be a few agreements to go over dealing with merging threads and general stuff so that mods aren't at war with eachother. It's worked like a charm so far so if there is a change, don't think it's going to come with world dominance power ;D I am not for any moderation that hinders free thought in this forum. Any canditate that doesn't want allow for heated debates does not have my vote. Again, this forum wan't broke, it doesn't need fixed. I fine tuned the rules as there was an issue with calling people out, but that's minor shit.
I agree, and I don't think the board is broken - just a little out of balance. Haidar accused Delusional Liberal of racism before, and he's not even here to defend himself. Why not?
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Discriminated against? Maybe - not that I mind having a heated debate against guys like Beserker, I quite enjoy it.
I think we need more balance in the Moderation here, do you not think that is a reasonable request, Deedee?
Thanks to whoever made this thread a sticky, I think we need some good debate on this.
I'm not entirely sure that I find this the right way to go about asking for mod replacement. But leaving that aside, why do you feel discriminated against? Do you feel your threads or posts are threatened with deletion or tampering in some way? Does Berserker cow you in some way, or discourage you from posting? Do you think that by adding a conservative mod, you'll have more power or back-up for your views? (Not asking that in any kind of sarcastic way). If so, shouldn't you revisit your motives for asking for this mod replacement, since basically this is a forum for individuals to state their views, not form squadlike teams in order to bash or overwhelm the other side. Your posts should stand or fall on their own merit. The same people post here, day in, day out, regardless of who's modding, so adding a right wing mod will do nothing to change the content of this board, and wouldn't skew the number of conservative versus liberal posters in favor of any one side. The function of a mod is to see that the rules of a board are adhered to, nothing more, nothing less.
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I'm not entirely sure that I find this the right way to go about asking for mod replacement. But leaving that aside, why do you feel discriminated against? Do you feel your threads or posts are threatened with deletion or tampering in some way? Does Berserker cow you in some way, or discourage you from posting? Do you think that by adding a conservative mod, you'll have more power or back-up for your views? (Not asking that in any kind of sarcastic way). If so, shouldn't you revisit your motives for asking for this mod replacement, since basically this is a forum for individuals to state their views, not form squadlike teams in order to bash or overwhelm the other side. Your posts should stand or fall on their own merit. The same people post here, day in, day out, regardless of who's modding, so adding a right wing mod will do nothing to change the content of this board, and wouldn't skew the number of conservative versus liberal posters in favor of any one side. The function of a mod is to see that the rules of a board are adhered to, nothing more, nothing less.
Has a Mod started a thread about anyone else's 'identity crisis' recently? With a diametrically opposed Mod, maybe this will result in my views being represented also (maybe not).
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I agree, and I don't think the board is broken - just a little out of balance. Haidar accused Delusional Liberal of racism before, and he's not even here to defend himself. Why not?
You should probably come clean about holding my modding over my head on bouts between us. Just because that is a point that you have held by doing this that there is a problem with the moderation of this board. I want the mods to feel like they can participate along with everyone and there's no reason they shouldn't be able to. As long as a mod isn't being unfair with is abilities, there should be no issue. If DL or any other righty mod wants to get jiggy with it, I say have at it ;D It needs to stay that way and I hope it's the last I've seen being called on that unless I'm abusing privileges.
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Has a Mod started a thread about anyone else's 'identity crisis' recently? With a diametrically opposed Mod, maybe this will result in my views being represented also (maybe not).
see there's the problem I'm talking about... You are finding it broken... There was a political point to calling you out and yes, I do call out others routinely which is not a special power, anyone can do it and anyone who feels they have an issues that is political in nature and they want to challenge debate on that issue with that person should be able to do so, mod or anyone else... Do you see where I'm coming from Bruce?
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Cap, what are your views on the following:
- Socialist states (eg. Cuba, Venezuela)
- Global Warming
- Iraq
Also, what religion, if any, do you follow?
Socialist states are more of a threat than we also a general populace give them credit. Cuba is pretty docile as Castro dies but I honestly think that leaving him in power has actually prevented worse things from happening. That being said, had we done something very early about him the people in Cuba would have been better off. It will be interesting to see how things turn out when he croaks. Chavez on the other hand is terrible for us and for his own country. If you still believe in Manifest Destiny then this dude needs to go. We need the CIA to organize a resistence against him. A President (and please save your Bush comments) should not be an outright dictator and oppress his people. Additionally, I think him having oil and us needing it puts him in a good position to mess with us and we would have to proceed in an intelligent manner to avoid another all out war. A smarter "Bay of Pigs" would work if executed correctly.
Global warming, based off information I have seen and been taught tells me we are half the problem. I had a recent class with a professor that said this is a cycle that the Earth goes through. I believe that to be true because of extreme heats and colds that happen all the time. Everything is cyclical. Sure we have different technology that exacerbates the problem but we still do sustain. It's been pretty cool this winter for me so I'm not sure about how the summer will be. I've experienced highs and lows all the time so I would imagine the Earth can manage. Blaming the oil companies does not take away the responsibility of the consumer. If everybody cared as much about global warming as they say they do, we'd all ride busses and bikes but we don't. My prof said that there have been times in history where this has happened before, without the aid of fossil fuels burning.
Iraq is always a fun topic. I think we need to secure our interests and finish the mission. It is heading towards a Vietnam execution and that is bad. Securing oil. Fine. Setting up a regime of democracy or close to it is good for the people. They have been under a dictatorship so long they don't know how to function in a system like ours. Give it time. Six years isn't enough time. As far as strategy, less conventional forces. Better trained conventional forces. More Spec OPs and Mercs. Mercs cost money but training and sending troops overseas is more costly in the long run. Replacing dead soldiers costs money. Mercs don't care about dying and won't cause as much of a public outrage, the same for Spec Ops. Nobody hears of their deaths. Replace Marines with Rangers or SEALs to execute the missions, prefereably Rangers. Rangers are the best for for going in and blowing up everything and killing everyone in their path. SF and Delta are the best for gathering intel with little loss of life on either side. The right people get killed. they need to focus on getting more of these guys into action. I'll say it again, 18 year old Marines are causing problems and aren't trained for an unconventional mission.
Roman Catholic.
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You should probably come clean about holding my modding over my head on bouts between us. Just because that is a point that you have held by doing this that there is a problem with the moderation of this board. I want the mods to feel like they can participate along with everyone and there's no reason they shouldn't be able to. As long as a mod isn't being unfair with is abilities, there should be no issue. If DL or any other righty mod wants to get jiggy with it, I say have at it ;D It needs to stay that way and I hope it's the last I've seen being called on that unless I'm abusing privileges.
I still feel I was justified to say that, Beserker, but I want to make it clear I'm not trying to have you replaced. All I want is something like an anti-Berserker to balance things out here (so long as we're stuck with you ;)).
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see there's the problem I'm talking about... You are finding it broken... There was a political point to calling you out and yes, I do call out others routinely which is not a special power, anyone can do it and anyone who feels they have an issues that is political in nature and they want to challenge debate on that issue with that person should be able to do so, mod or anyone else... Do you see where I'm coming from Bruce?
No, yours was a personal attack. It's not that I can't take having abuse and insults hurled at me, it's that there's no balance.
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I still feel I was justified to say that, Beserker, but I want to make it clear I'm not trying to have you replaced. All I want is something like an anti-Berserker to balance things out here (so long as we're stuck with you ;)).
You know, that's really uncool of you... Ask cap, I have rightwing guys come to me and I bust my ass to be fair as hell even though I'm the left mod. You might consider this before painting me a villain... and you are absolutely wrong, if there is a political point to calling someone out, it had better not get deleted by any mod. You claimed to be unbias and not of the right, I called you out on that... I have a valid poing calling you out. any person or any mod can do so, to demand otherwise is to hinder free thought in this forum and I am against that... why do you think I approve of your blog...
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Has a Mod started a thread about anyone else's 'identity crisis' recently? With a diametrically opposed Mod, maybe this will result in my views being represented also (maybe not).
No Bruce, it would not be a diametrically opposed Mod's function or job to take your side in any kind of political debate. If that were the case, the board would become a meltdown mess in no time at all. It's up to you as an individual poster to either debate back, or complain. Berserker will state his views, and start whatever threads he wishes, whether he mods or not. He does not post or start threads as a function of "modship" and whatever issue he might have with your views are his as a contributor to the board, not this official (lol) function. Each one of us is basically a lone gun here.
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You know, that's really uncool of you... Ask cap, I have rightwing guys come to me and I bust my ass to be fair as hell even though I'm the left mod. You might consider this before painting me a villain... and you are absolutely wrong, if there is a political point to calling someone out, it had better not get deleted by any mod. You claimed to be unbias and not of the right, I called you out on that... I have a valid poing calling you out. any person or any mod can do so, to demand otherwise is to hinder free thought in this forum and I am against that... why do you think I approve of your blog...
Easy there, I was being facetious with that comment. You didn't have a point calling me 'Right-Wing', you were wrong, and I told you so. You also have no business commenting on anyone's 'identity crisis' (or lack thereof). That's a personal attack rather than a statement made against my opinion.
Regardless of this, I think that thread hurt you more than me.
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No Bruce, it would not be a diametrically opposed Mod's function or job to take your side in any kind of political debate. If that were the case, the board would become a meltdown mess in no time at all. It's up to you as an individual poster to either debate back, or complain. Berserker will state his views, and start whatever threads he wishes, whether he mods or not. He does not post or start threads as a function of "modship" and whatever issue he might have with your views are his as a contributor to the board, not this official (lol) function. Each one of us is basically a lone gun here.
Saying someone has an 'identity crisis' isn't a 'political debate', can you see that?
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No Bruce, it would not be a diametrically opposed Mod's function or job to take your side in any kind of political debate. If that were the case, the board would become a meltdown mess in no time at all. It's up to you as an individual poster to either debate back, or complain. Berserker will state his views, and start whatever threads he wishes, whether he mods or not. He does not post or start threads as a function of "modship" and whatever issue he might have with your views are his as a contributor to the board, not this official (lol) function. Each one of us is basically a lone gun here.
thank you deedee, I couldn't have said it better... I did also invite DL to this debate so we're not all doing this behind his back. That would be terrible..
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On calling someone out: There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling someone out by creating a thread to hash out a specific political point with that person. This is really perfect when you've noted a serious discrepancy in your opponent and want to make a specific debate from it. Stay away from calling someone out for insult purposes only, have a valid political point that you indend on debating if you call someone out. If there is no point, the thread may be deleted at the leasure of the mods or by request.
Okay - now guess who wrote this?
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Saying someone has an 'identity crisis' isn't a 'political debate', can you see that?
No absolutely not, I called you out because of what I saw as a POLITICAL identity crisis... you said you were not bias and not of the right, I found what I believed to be otherwise in the majority of your posts, I called you out on it... There is NOTHING wrong with that and if you believe there is you want more moderation for this forum than the majority wants... We sought this forum and fought for this forum to have this very kind of freedom, you're not going to change that while I'm here... The spirit of why this forum was created will not die soon... Take it or leave it... If you're sure of yourself, you should have no problems defending political callouts...
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No absolutely not, I called you out because of what I saw as a POLITICAL identity crisis... you said you were not bias and not of the right, I found what I believed to be otherwise in the majority of your posts, I called you out on it... There is NOTHING wrong with that and if you believe there is you want more moderation for this forum than the majority wants... We sought this forum and fought for this forum to have this very kind of freedom, you're not going to change that while I'm here... The spirit of why this forum was created will not die soon... Take it or leave it... If you're sure of yourself, you should have no problems defending political callouts...
He came to this forum claiming no bias, I quote "I in fact am an Agnostic, and by definition cannot therefore be of the right." Yet he seems to have landed hardcore rightwing on issue after issue after issue... Wuzup boyeeeee?!?!
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You decide, guys - is this calling me out for a legitimate political reason, or not?
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On calling someone out: There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling someone out by creating a thread to hash out a specific political point with that person. This is really perfect when you've noted a serious discrepancy in your opponent and want to make a specific debate from it. Stay away from calling someone out for insult purposes only, have a valid political point that you indend on debating if you call someone out. If there is no point, the thread may be deleted at the leasure of the mods or by request.
Okay - now guess who wrote this?
Did i have a valid reason for calling you out??? YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did I call you out for "insult purposes only" obviously if I had a political motive that was clear, and it was there was more than insult to my post ;) those are the rules, take them or leave them, it's a fair balance that I created so as not to hinder free thought in the forum.
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You decide, guys - is this calling me out for a legitimate political reason, or not?
They already voted on that or did you miss that sticky ;)
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Saying someone has an 'identity crisis' isn't a 'political debate', can you see that?
You are always free to complain to Ron or one of the other moderators if you feel you are being unfairly treated. Attempting to form "sides" is detrimental to the social environment of any public forum.
And just to add a bit of levity here, while you may be articulate, often enough a certain derision and arrogance seeps through your words which isn't undetected by the reader. Which is better, or worse? Overt calling out, or covert condescension. I have all the faith in the world that you can hold your own when it comes to both counterattack as well as debate.
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You're amazing Bruce, I bust my ass here being fair for you, sticky your thread, approve of your blog, tell you several time that you're welcome when you felt you weren't. I bust my butt to be fair to righties who trust me and come to me with stuff and you can't follow my desires to keep this forum optimal to free thought and debate.
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You are always free to complain to Ron or one of the other moderators if you feel you are being unfairly treated. Attempting to form "sides" is detrimental to the social environment of any public forum.
And just to add a bit of levity here, while you may be articulate, often enough a certain derision and arrogance seeps through your words which isn't undetected by the reader. Which is better, or worse? Overt calling out, or covert condescension. I have all the faith in the world that you can hold your own when it comes to both counterattack as well as debate.
You didn't answer my question, Deedee - try again. Verify your position.
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You're amazing Bruce, I bust my ass here being fair for you, sticky your thread, approve of your blog, tell you several time that you're welcome when you felt you weren't. I bust my butt to be fair to righties who trust me and come to me with stuff and you can't follow my desires to keep this forum optimal to free thought and debate.
So you post a thread to debate me on this issue, and then get upset when I actually do?
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So you post a thread to debate me on this issue, and then get upset when I actually do?
See, you need to stop twisting shit, I got upset with you because you wanted to make issue with the callout and wether a mod should do that... Of course I didn't have issue with you debating it ::) Oh brother you know that's not true... ::) There is a time to admit when you're wrong, I have done it at times. I had a political purpose for the callout and if I do again, i will call out anyone again. That promotes debate on the point, it promotes free thinking in the forum... A little jabbing is also not a problem unless it breaks down into nothing but insults I don't see why you should be upset over it.
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See, you need to stop twisting shit, I got upset with you because you wanted to make issue with the callout and wether a mod should do that... Of course I didn't have issue with you debating it ::) Oh brother you know that's not true... ::) There is a time to admit when you're wrong, I have done it at times. I had a political purpose for the callout and if I do again, i will call out anyone again. That promotes debate on the point, it promotes free thinking in the forum... A little jabbing is also not a problem unless it breaks down into nothing but insults I don't see why you should be upset over it.
So attacking someone's opinion is only okay if it's you doing it? Okay, I understand now.
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So attacking someone's opinion is only okay if it's you doing it? Okay, I understand now.
if it's ANYONE doing it!!!!!!!!!!!! WHERE DID I SAY BERSERKER ONLY ::) I'm only going to play your bullshit game of twisting my words for so long...
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You didn't answer my question, Deedee - try again. Verify your position.
I think I did. But I'll be more clear. I think there was nothing wrong with his thread, since you did misrepresent yourself and your political views, and he was calling you out on that. If he hadn't, someone else would have. This is Getbig and you must have noticed by now, what is the "spirit" of the board. There is no mincing of words on any of the boards, except the Women's board, which was expressly created for people who don't like to read negative posts. Everywhere else, freedom of speech is encouraged and this place would suck if it changed.
I also said that you often employ sarcasm mixed in with your obvious superior command of the English language when making your points, so you can't have it both ways. You can't ask to be coddled on the one hand, while you enjoy thrashing people with subtle but very caustic comments on the other.
And again, the function of a mod is to ensure that the rules are being followed, and perhaps generate interest when things are slow. Not bolster the threads in favor of one political group over another. And certainly not to bolster "Bruce's" views. You're trying to create a divide that hasn't existed here before. Maybe you should think about that.
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if it's ANYONE doing it!!!!!!!!!!!! WHERE DID I SAY BERSERKER ONLY ::) I'm only going to play your bullshit game of twisting my words for so long...
Why are you so upset with me debating you on it then? You should welcome it! The sorry fact is, right now, you're arguing for free speech and calling me out for 'bullshit game(s)' all in the same thread! It's delightful!
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I think I did. But I'll be more clear. I think there was nothing wrong with his thread, since you did misrepresent yourself and your political views, and he was calling you out on that. If he hadn't, someone else would have. This is Getbig and you must have noticed by now, what is the "spirit" of the board. There is no mincing of words on any of the boards, except the Women's board, which was expressly created for people who don't like to read negative posts. Everywhere else, freedom of speech is encouraged and this place would suck if it changed.
Then you will agree to debate me on the validity of his 'Right-Wing' claim?
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AS MUCH AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THINGS, THIS FORUM WILL REMAIN A FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR PROMOTING DEBATE FOR EVERYONE!!!!... IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE LAX RULES, GO CRY TO RON. But know when you do, that Ron asked that this forum be fun and be like Crossfire Everything has been done in the spirit of this.
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AS MUCH AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THINGS, THIS FORUM WILL REMAIN A FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR PROMOTING DEBATE FOR EVERYONE!!!!... IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE LAX RULES, GO CRY TO RON. But know when you do, that Ron asked that this forum be fun and be like Crossfire Everything has been done in the spirit of this.
Erm, Beserker - aren't you trying to get me to stop debating you here?
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Erm, Beserker - aren't you trying to get me to stop debating you here?
There is no debate on changing the lax rules of this forum... The only way they will change is for Ron to demod me. Therefore if you want them changed, this is a job for Ron... I will debate you on anything but this is not debatable, got it...
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The only way they will change is for Ron to demod me. Therefore if you want them changed, this is a job for Ron
Exactly as I said at the start of this thread.
I will debate you on anything but this is not debatable, got it...
Oh okay, so you decide the agenda here, even after saying the posters have free range?
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Wow, this topic deserves a sticky?
Why should we debate about any of the candidates running for President or the War in Iraq when we can debate whether or not the conservative mod posts enough? ::)
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Exactly as I said at the start of this thread.
Oh okay, so you decide the agenda here, even after saying the posters have free range?
Yea, the posters have a lot of free range here... You were not posting in General when we got this forum created for that very purpose... but that is what we all wanted... I ask that you be respectful of the intent behind the political forum. It works well for the many. The rules are lax for this reason but there are rules so just apply some common sense, it's not rocket science Bruce.
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Wow, this topic deserves a sticky?
Why should we debate about any of the candidates running for President or the War in Iraq when we can debate whether or not the conservative mod posts enough? ::)
And your involvement here would therefore be a brilliant attempt to undermine your own intellect, right?
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Yea, the posters have a lot of free range here... You were not posting in General when we got this forum created for that very purpose... but that is what we all wanted... I ask that you be respectful of the intent behind the political forum. It works well for the many. The rules are lax for this reason but there are rules so just apply some common sense, it's not rocket science Bruce.
I never said I wanted rule changes, Beserker, just moderation of the Moderators. You don't have anything to fear of people with views differing from your own, do you?
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And your involvement here would therefore be a brilliant attempt to undermine your own intellect, right?
Do you actually believe this nonsense or do you just giggle to yourself as you type?
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Do you actually believe this nonsense or do you just giggle to yourself as you type?
Believe me, I've done nothing but giggle whilst responding to you. You're the great opinion-less wonder on here, with a fascination for stalking my posts.
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This thread is done, I try to hook Bruce up in this his true motives come to the surface. really get over it Bruce... People are going to call out people and if there is a political debating purpose it's going to happen... This thead is done. Bruce, if you want the rightwing mod changed, start a campaign to do it... contact the right leaning members and if you get a significant drive going, either Ozmo or myself will sticky a vote. Get that going first if you're serious about this.
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This thread is done, I try to hook Bruce up in this his true motives come to the surface. really get over it Bruce... People are going to call out people and if there is a political debating purpose it's going to happen... This thead is done. Bruce, if you want the rightwing mod changed, start a campaign to do it... contact the right leaning members and if you get a significant drive going, either Ozmo or myself will sticky a vote. Get that going first if you're serious about this.
I already did, in case you didn't notice. Nice to know 'this thread is done', I thought that was a 'free-speech' issue for the members to decide and not you. There's more Chavez in you then I first gave you credit for.
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Okay, apologies for that guys - we got a little off track - but I feel better for the debate!
Joe, Cap86 - Tell us why you're going to be the next Mod here.
Cap, can you tell me your religious persuasion?
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I already did, in case you didn't notice. Nice to know 'this thread is done', I thought that was a 'free-speech' issue for the members to decide and not you. There's more Chavez in you then I first gave you credit for.
You did what, you pm'd other members and got a drive going? No you didn't, you posted a thread that I temporarily stickied to help you out, despite your constant fight with my modding... You have Cap and Intenseone and Haidar, don't let me stop you... Cap may help in recruiting a serious drive if that's what you guys want, pm him and get it going, pm me when you want a vote started... I'll sticky it, you have my word.
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You did what, you pm'd other members and got a drive going? No you didn't, you posted a thread that I temporarily stickied to help you out, despite your constant fight with my modding... You have Cap and Intenseone and Haidar, don't let me stop you... Cap may help in recruiting a serious drive if that's what you guys want, pm him and get it going, pm me when you want a vote started... I'll sticky it, you have my word.
I've been contacting Cap via PM for a couple of hours now,and have PM'd Joe too. I thought you said this thread was over?
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You did what, you pm'd other members and got a drive going? No you didn't, you posted a thread that I temporarily stickied to help you out, despite your constant fight with my modding... You have Cap and Intenseone and Haidar, don't let me stop you... Cap may help in recruiting a serious drive if that's what you guys want, pm him and get it going, pm me when you want a vote started... I'll sticky it, you have my word.
Berserker, check your PMs. Ron contacted me. My fate is in your (the Mods') hands.
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I've been contacting Cap via PM for a couple of hours now,and have PM'd Joe too. I thought you said this thread was over?
You are over attacking the rules of this forum or trying to change the modding agreements which have made for an environment that best promotes free thinking. You are done goating me by twisting everything I say in regard to these rules. these rules for the forum and the mod agreements are not negotiable... that part is over... If you don't want this thread moved, I suggest you keep on topic. Get enough people here to chime in that the mod needs changed. I'm not for it if they people are not for it. I'm for it if the people are for it. Stay on that point and I'll not get in your way... Keep playing pissyfoot games with the non-negotiable rules of the forum and you'll succed in having this thread moved to complaints which is what it will be. You pushed and pushed and pushed so this is where we ended up with it. I've done nothing but try my best to be fair to everyone, I don't know what else I can do.
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If only it were your choice.
wait and see if you get a new mod :)
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wait and see if you get a new mod :)
It's not my sole choice either, Jimmy.
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Then you will agree to debate me on the validity of his 'Right-Wing' claim?
No actually, I'm not interested in contributing any more than necessary to your attention whoring on this board.
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IMHO, this board has managed to be fairly self-moderated, and the current Moderators are doing a good job, ie a minimum of sticky and un-sticky, and once in awhile moving a thread, not much else.
I've yet to see a Moderator on this board use the moderating properties in his favor.
Keep up the good job, all three of you.
-Hedge
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IMHO, this board has managed to be fairly self-moderated, and the current Moderators are doing a good job, ie a minimum of sticky and un-sticky, and once in awhile moving a thread, not much else.
I've yet to see a Moderator on this board use the moderating properties in his favor.
Keep up the good job, all three of you.
-Hedge
Hedgehog approved ;D thanks guy!
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i nominate bruce for moderator
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Okay mob, it's becoming more and more evident we don't have a reliable Moderator to offset the views of Beserker and Ozmo around here. Therefore, after having both of these two throw their hats into the ring, I nominate the following Getbiggers to replace Delusional Liberal:
- Mr. Intenseone
- Cap86
Please feel free to review the posts of both of these candidates to evaluate their viability - I will then bring this thread to Ron's attention so that he may make an informed opinion. I would like to clarify that I in no way feel it is my prerogative to decide who represents this half of the board. I will give my opinion just as all of you will.
State your case, guys.
Not just NO, ...but HELL NO!!!!!
What's been wrong with the moderation so far?
I think they've been doing an exemplary job (...even when the SOBs have delete my posts) >:( :P ;)
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Not just NO, ...but HELL NO!!!!!
What's been wrong with the moderation so far?
I think they've been doing an exemplary job (...even when the SOBs have delete my posts) >:( :P ;)
Why not Mr. Intenseone or Cap?
Is it a bad thing for a Mod to send multiple "fuck you" PM's to a female board member? Or for a Mod to post nonsensical Rush Limbaugh drivel each and everyday?
No, they'd make fantastic mods. ::)
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You decide, guys - is this calling me out for a legitimate political reason, or not?
I've always advocated mods not having sides in an issue, ...which has largely been because the "issues" in nature on Getbig have always been personality clashes, or attempts to pwn, ridicule, and bully people into silence.
Berserker's comments, as well as the thread he created were legitimate in my opinon, and I think Deedee articulated things very well.
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Why not Mr. Intenseone or Cap?
Is it a bad thing for a Mod to send multiple "f**k you" PM's to a female board member? Or for a Mod to post nonsensical Rush Limbaugh drivel each and everyday?
No, they'd make fantastic mods. ::)
If a mod isn't even capable of moderating him/herself, ...how is s/he going to moderate a message board?
...and a political message board at that? What has Bruce got against DL anyway? Don't fix what ain't broken.
Berserker... :-* :-* :-* :-*
You've really stepped up to the plate and proved your value as a mod., and earned my respect. (http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/thumbup.gif) (http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/thumbup.gif)
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If a mod isn't even capable of moderating him/herself, ...how is s/he going to moderate a message board?
...and a political message board at that? What has Bruce got against DL anyway? Don't fix what ain't broken.
Berserker... :-* :-* :-* :-*
You've really stepped up to the plate and proved your value as a mod., and earned my respect. (http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/thumbup.gif) (http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/thumbup.gif)
You're attacks to me were handled in private, is that not control? Would you prefer I post nasty comments on here where it is inappapropriate and unrelated? I follow the rules of this board. You make everything personal, I do not. Mr. I and I are great candidates for the job. We post more than DL and represent the Right wing. Don't let personal issues cloud your mind. How do I not moderate myself and how does that apply foe Joe? Is it because we do not side with the majority here? Is it because we don't buy what you are selling? You are afraid I will censor but I will not and neither will he. The hatred on your end for our beliefs, my age and me in general astounds me. Sounds like an enlightened Person to me. ::)
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You're attacks to me were handled in private, is that not control? Would you prefer I post nasty comments on here where it is inappapropriate and unrelated?
The very fact that you can't refrain from posting nasty comments towards someone who does not share your position is reason enough in itself.
I follow the rules of this board. You make everything personal, I do not.
{LOL} Thanks for the comic relief tho.
Mr. I and I are great candidates for the job.
{LOL} Now you're making me laugh so hard, I'm getting hiccups.
We post more than DL and represent the Right wing.
Who posts more isn't a prerequisite.
Don't let personal issues cloud your mind.
I don't have to let personal issues cloud my mind.
Unbiased rational analysis is enough for me to believe you'd be a horrible mod.
How do I not moderate myself
In response to a question asking you if you are sure you want to take on a specific issue with another poster, you write:
Why don't you swallow some Draino and do us all a favor.
In response to specific on topic posts on the board you send this in PM:
seriously go f**k urself. you don't know shit about me you canuck pussy.
The hatred on your end for our beliefs, my age and me in general astounds me. Sounds like an enlightened Person to me. ::)
I don't hate you Cap. I do however feel sorry for you, ...in much the same way I used to feel sorry for Berserker.
He has since risen above his demons in an exemplary way, ...so maybe there's still some hope for you yet? :D
Further on the topic of rising above demons, ...I'd like to content that Rob has also come along way in this regard.
Political beliefs aside, he's shown extraordinary restraint. Certainly not the same old Rob from 2 years ago.
I think to choose a board MOD based only on political beliefs is as stupid and as myopic as the political appts in Iraq. Many contractors were given their jobs NOT because of their qualifications to the job, ...but rather because they were Republicans. What a stupid way to choose candidates. And now there's the collosal failure to show for it. How much more American tax dollars are going to be squandered, wasted, and thrown away in that sinking money pit?
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Jag, you know what. You are the worst poster on this board by far.
Refrain from nasty comments via PM is not a prereq of being a mod. Berserker has done it as have other mods. Get over yourself. My draino comment was right after your repeated KY inferences and the fact you can't keep my personal life in negative ways, out of your mouth. I am unbiased in many respects and biased in some, just like other mods. True? Yes. Deal. Get a life. You think you are taking the high ground but you truly are my child. I own you and your posts. I win. Game over.
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Why not Mr. Intenseone or Cap?
Is it a bad thing for a Mod to send multiple "f**k you" PM's to a female board member? Or for a Mod to post nonsensical Rush Limbaugh drivel each and everyday?
No, they'd make fantastic mods. ::)
Sending nasty pms to someone just because they don't agree with you is pretty classless.
I don't mind Mr. I so much, as we need an active conservative mod.
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Jag, you know what. You are the worst poster on this board by far.
Refrain from nasty comments via PM is not a prereq of being a mod.
OK, how about not stalking members through PM?
Berserker has done it as have other mods. Get over yourself. My draino comment was right after your repeated KY inferences
Would you have preferred no KY? Sodomy can be pretty painful without it, ...and that was what i envisioned for you if you try to take Rob on on the issue of WTC 93
and the fact you can't keep my personal life in negative ways, out of your mouth.
Buddy, you are the one who put your personal life into the argument.
Now you're arguing with me over 'my opinion'? Recognize the difference between an opinion and a fact.
My opinion is you'd be a horrible mod. If I had to vote, that's how I would vote.
That's the bottom line. Deal with it. Do something to change my opinion of you.
Arguing won't do it, ...your behaviour will. I don't see it changing anytime soon.
I am unbiased in many respects and biased in some, just like other mods. True? Yes. Deal. Get a life. You think you are taking the high ground but you truly are my child. I own you and your posts. I win. Game over.
If you say so little one. :P
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Sending nasty pms to someone just because they don't agree with you is pretty classless.
I don't mind Mr. I so much, as we need an active conservative mod.
Hey, do you know the context in which it was sent? If not then I suggest you keep your toughts to yourself bud. I sent one, and one only which is why she posted only one. Keep thinking what you want. I guess I should have made personal attacks on the board to her which seems to be more acceptable to the general populace here. Go figure.
If telling someone to fuck off is the worst I can do then you all need to reevaluate some things. Oh and other mods on here have cursed at members. As a member and not a mod, I can conduct myself differently and I have not done this even with Rob who I disagree with on everything here. So if Rob posted personal things about me I would have acted the same way. I admit it. But he did not and I treated him with respect with the worst thing being said is that he is delusional and a liberal.
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Hey, do you know the context in which it was sent? If not then I suggest you keep your toughts to yourself bud. I sent one, and one only which is why she posted only one. Keep thinking what you want. I guess I should have made personal attacks on the board to her which seems to be more acceptable to the general populace here. Go figure.
You did that too. ;)
I guess it can't hurt to have you or Mr. I as mod as Delusional liberal is mostly inactive.
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Why do we more mods?
Who cares if a mod is liberal or conservative.
If they are doing a crappy job and nuking all your posts contact Ron.
Everyone here is pretty chill most of the time and I have only had 1 or 2 posts nuked.
Whereas on the main board I had many.
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You did that too. ;)
I guess it can't hurt to have you or Mr. I as mod as Delusional liberal is mostly inactive.
True. Draino comment. 8)
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Hey, do you know the context in which it was sent? If not then I suggest you keep your toughts to yourself bud. I sent one, and one only which is why she posted only one. Keep thinking what you want. I guess I should have made personal attacks on the board to her which seems to be more acceptable to the general populace here. Go figure.
Another pre-requisite I have is that a mod should NOT be full of shit!
(http://platinum.funpic.org/images/cap_bullshit.jpg)
3 meltdown PM's in a row. Now you wanna lie about it, and whine 'cause I don't have a high opinion of you? ::)
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You said I sent 3 telling you to fuck off. That is a lie.
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It comes up too small to read, ...but d/l it and view it within your computer to see accurately.
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It comes up too small to read, ...but d/l it and view it within your computer to see accurately.
Why are the names of the other members that sent you PM's blacked out? Why would you hide such a thing?
Also, you said he sent you three PM's telling you to "fuck off" or saying "fuck you". All that screen capture shows is three PM's, no content of the PM's though.
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Why are the names of the other members that sent you PM's blacked out? Why would you hide such a thing?
Also, you said he sent you three PM's telling you to "f**k off" or saying "f**k you". All that screen capture shows is three PM's, no content of the PM's though.
Because who I correspond with in PM is nobodies business.
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1. Like I told Rob. I'm done with you two. It's like talking to a brick wall. He ignores facts and posts none. Have fun.
2. Keep trying. Lol. You guys crack me up. I'm glad people send me what you say. It's amusing. I'm very terrified of both of your "knowledge". Lol
3. seriously go f**k urself. you don't know shit about me you canuck pussy.
Check the times and everything. Only one contains "fu ck"
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Because who I correspond with in PM is nobodies business.
OK, but it seems like a strange thing to be worried about. Do you really think anyone cares who you've exchanged PM's with?
Did Cap send you three PM's telling you to "fuck off" or was it just one PM telling you to fuck off?
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OK, but it seems like a strange thing to be worried about. Do you really think anyone cares who you've exchanged PM's with?
Did Cap send you three PM's telling you to "f**k off" or was it just one PM telling you to f**k off?
No, I just posted all three.
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No, I just posted all three.
Yep, you were right. That's only one. Nice job on the apology by the way. That was the classy thing to do.
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It felt right considering I made a personal attack with the Draino comment. Politics is tenuous enough without personal attacks.
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No actually, I'm not interested in contributing any more than necessary to your attention whoring on this board.
Again with the abuse, and yet no debate. Beserker, any opinion on this? I've validly asked Deedee to present her view on this, and I shall respond.
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Please account for the fact that my clock on here is set to PST (I think)
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bruce, step up to the plate and take charge
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bruce, step up to the plate and take charge
As far as I know he hasn't said he wants to be a mod. He supported Mr. I and/or me as of last night.
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bruce, step up to the plate and take charge
Cap, Cav, I'm currently being trialled by board over at the comments pseudo-board regarding this whole Mod issue. Beserker has stated he will delete and move any posts or threads I make regarding the authority of Mods here.
You could both do me a great favour by defending me there, but until then, I have to keep quiet on this.
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Classic Passive Aggressive behaviour. :'(
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Classic Passive Aggressive behaviour. :'(
Are you referring to me? Can you define 'passive aggressive' and then argue within the constraints of this definition that I am, if fact, behaving in this manner?
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Are you referring to me? Can you define 'passive aggressive' and then argue within the constraints of this definition that I am, if fact, behaving in this manner?
I won't even bother to.
Your behaviour presents far more compelling a case than these little fingers could ever type.
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I'm not sure how th fight between between Berserker and Bruce started but it seems pretty bad that everyone gangs up on him for wanting a new mod based on the reasons he stated. I know some mentioned his web-blog thing which I have no knowledge of. I think if people put aside their personal feelings with him and hear him out on his reasons. Just dismissing him and his opinions seems to be a growing trend for many here.
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I won't even bother to.
Your behaviour presents far more compelling a case than these little fingers could ever type.
Is there anyone else here that would like to sling some more unfounded mud at me?
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I'm not sure how th fight between between Berserker and Bruce started but it seems pretty bad that everyone gangs up on him for wanting a new mod based on the reasons he stated. I know some mentioned his web-blog thing which I have no knowledge of. I think if people put aside their personal feelings with him and hear him out on his reasons. Just dismissing him and his opinions seems to be a growing trend for many here.
Thanks, Cap. Deleting my posts is just about the worst case of dismissal I can think of.
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Thanks, Cap. Deleting my posts is just about the worst case of dismissal I can think of.
That I do not agree with, even if it is those I disagree with. A poltical board of all places needs free speech unless it is baseless attacks on a person. If I call you an idiot for believing something or in someone or for not defending a point, then attacks are warranted. If I say you are a stupid dyke and your view of the world is skewed because you munch rug, then some censorship should take place.
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Thanks, Cap. Deleting my posts is just about the worst case of dismissal I can think of.
I didn't delete your posts. Never have I deleted one of your goddamned posts. I only moved one thread and after you past what I clearly noted was the last warning.
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Is there anyone else here that would like to sling some more unfounded mud at me?
Yeah. How dare you not dump on Bush and all things conservative! You are screwing up this liberal haven. Either get with the program or leave!
How's that? :D
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That I do not agree with, even if it is those I disagree with. A poltical board of all places needs free speech unless it is baseless attacks on a person. If I call you an idiot for believing something or in someone or for not defending a point, then attacks are warranted. If I say you are a stupid dyke and your view of the world is skewed because you munch rug, then some censorship should take place.
Well, considering I have never abused anyone on this board, I think it's just a bit rough. Anyway, I'm happy for you all to decide my fate - if I'm out of line say so, but otherwise lend me a hand. Cheers.
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Yeah. How dare you not dump on Bush and all things conservative! You are screwing up this liberal haven. Either get with the program or leave!
How's that? :D
Thanks, BB - I actually believe this is the true reason a few here despise me. As you know, I don't make a point of hurling insults at anyone (no matter how much they deserve it). If I have posted anything incorrect I'd love to have it brought to my attention.
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That I do not agree with, even if it is those I disagree with. A political board of all places needs free speech unless it is baseless attacks on a person. If I call you an idiot for believing something or in someone or for not defending a point, then attacks are warranted. If I say you are a stupid dyke and your view of the world is skewed because you munch rug, then some censorship should take place.
I didn't do any deleting of his posts, either another mod did it or he's full of shit. and I also approved his blog and said that out of respect he ought to check with the other mods, THAT'S when he decided the other mods weren't good enough saying that I was the only one that posted regularly. I don't know, did he pm Ozmo about it? :-\ Did he pm DL about it? Nope???, he started an immediate campaign to replace DL.
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Somebody get this guy a blinky.
Berserker, you have shown the patience of a saint. I'm out.
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I didn't any deleting of his posts, either another mod did it or he's full of shit. and I also approved his blog and said that out of respect he ought to check with the other mods, THAT'S when he decided the other mods weren't good enough saying that I was the only one that posted regularly. I don't know, did he pm Ozmo about it? :-\ Did he pm DL about it? Nope, he started an immediate campaign to replace DL.
I'm just stating neutral opinions here.
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Yeah. How dare you not dump on Bush and all things conservative! You are screwing up this liberal haven. Either get with the program or leave!
How's that? :D
If you're talking about me, I do not want this to be a liberal haven... Cap can back that up from an early discussion we had.
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If you're talking about me, I do not want this to be a liberal haven... Cap can back that up from an early discussion we had.
My PM from him
no problem, remember don't let this stuff chase you off, I would hate to see the board become a liberal clusterfuck. Right now I think the general feel of the board is that there are a few more liberals posting so I would hate to lose a conservative regular and hope a few more come in as we go along.
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Thanks, BB - I actually believe this is the true reason a few here despise me. As you know, I don't make a point of hurling insults at anyone (no matter how much they deserve it). If I have posted anything incorrect I'd love to have it brought to my attention.
Keep fighting the good fight man. We already lost one good one (Colossus). He hasn't been around in a while. Just continue to express your opinions.
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Somebody get this guy a blinky.
Berserker, you have shown the patience of a saint. I'm out.
Geeze Louise. Why do the drama queens always have to announce they they're leaving? Not posting here anymore? Etc., etc., etc. ::)
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he started an immediate campaign to replace DL.
No, I asked the question if we should - YOU started the thread. Remember that?
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Well, considering I have never abused anyone on this board, I think it's just a bit rough. Anyway, I'm happy for you all to decide my fate - if I'm out of line say so, but otherwise lend me a hand. Cheers.
You're good to have around. I like your posts and your animated personality brings something to the board. Don't quit posting if you believe what you say and pay no mind to those that simply dismiss you. It tells you more about them and does not reflect on you. Berserker is good for here too. You two balance each other out.
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You're good to have around. I like your posts and your animated personality brings something to the board. Don't quit posting if you believe what you say and pay no mind to those that simply dismiss you. It tells you more about them and does not reflect on you. Berserker is good for here too. You two balance each other out.
Great post, I do feel I balance Beserker and vice versa. Thanks, Cap.
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If you're talking about me, I do not want this to be a liberal haven... Cap can back that up from an early discussion we had.
I'm not talking about you. I got no problem with you. If I want to talk about you, your momma, etc. I'll do it directly. :) I do think this forum is a liberal haven, but that really has nothing to do with you and there is nothing you can do about it, unless you start deleting posts (which you shouldn't do). And I'm not complaining or criticizing you at all, just so we're clear. I hang around liberals all the time. Just spent a while debating “reproductive health care” and sex education with a hard core liberal this weekend. Liberal isn't a dirty word in my view.
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No, I asked the question if we should - YOU started the thread. Remember that?
No, I split the thread for YOU!!!!!!!!!! I didn't start the thread, you did!!!! So that your thread on Venezuala wouldn't be disrupted with talk about making your blog and the mod talk, I split it... I hooked your thead negative of Chavez up!!!!!!!!!!!! See what a fair mother fucker I am... Do you thank me?, no.... You bitch and bitch and bitch and bitch.... ::)
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No, I split the thread for YOU!!!!!!!!!! I didn't start the thread, you did!!!! So that your thread on Venezuala wouldn't be disrupted with talk about making your blog and the mod talk, I split it... I hooked your thead negative of Chavez up!!!!!!!!!!!! See what a fair mother fucker I am... Do you thank me?, no.... You bitch and bitch and bitch and bitch.... ::)
Exactly, YOU started the thread, not me. YOU created the new thread.
Is this guy being exposed enough to the rest of you yet?
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Exactly, YOU started the thread, not me. YOU created the new thread.
Is this guy being exposed enough to the rest of you yet?
So I get blamed for keeping the change of topic from destroying your original thread... wow... you're serious... Ok, you're right bruce, you're always right... you're special... clearly...
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So I get blamed for keeping the change of topic from destroying your original thread... wow... you're serious... Ok, you're right bruce, you're always right... you're special... clearly...
Beserker, thank you for your admissions, but try and be responsible for your actions. You started, then moved, the thread in question. Yes you used my account and posts to do so (without my permission), but I didn't start the thread. You can't then point the finger at me for causing disruption here, as you more than assisted it.
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Nice job keeping this meaningless topic going.
Berserker, just walk away from this thread. Let the clowns have their say while you stay out of it.
I can't believe they found enough posts on this idiotic topic for five pages. ::)
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Nice job keeping this meaningless topic going.
Berserker, just walk away from this thread. Let the clowns have their say while you stay out of it.
I can't believe they found enough posts on this idiotic topic for five pages. ::)
And on cue the opinion-less wonder appears.
Keep posting that pic, it's making you look really clever, okay?
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And on cue the opinion-less wonder appears.
Keep posting that pic, it's making you look really clever, okay?
Hey bruce, I'm still waiting for you to post proof.
Where is your proof? Also, have you given money to "devil"? ;D
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Hey bruce, I'm still waiting for you to post proof.
Where is your proof? Also, have you given money to "devil"? ;D
I'm still awaiting yours, so far it centres around a mockingly hilarious photo of an online pundit dressed as an Islamicist. Keep trying.
BTW:
How many posts of mine in 'meaningless threads' are you planning on chiming into?
Oh, that's right, you're what they call an 'online stalker'.
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Oh god, that picture cracks me up every time!
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Oh god, that picture cracks me up every time!
I concur!
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I'm still awaiting yours, so far it centres around a mockingly hilarious photo of an online pundit dressed as an Islamicist. Keep trying.
BTW:
How many posts of mine in 'meaningless threads' are you planning on chiming into?
Oh, that's right, you're what they call an 'online stalker'.
So you aren't going to post any proof of your claims then? Nice job brucey.
You made a claim and then ripped liberals based on that claim.
Problem is you had ZERO proof. WHERE IS THE PROOF?
I concur!
That picture represents your credibility, you should be laughing at it.
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So you aren't going to post any proof of your claims then? Nice job brucey.
You made a claim and then ripped liberals based on that claim.
Problem is you had ZERO proof. WHERE IS THE PROOF?
Oh god, email The Independent and ask them why they deleted the correction.
You're the same guy that asked for proof of the Senate Inquiry (which I provided to you) on Iraq/US arms claims, then disappeared without a trace afterwards. Do I need a restraining order yet, guys?
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Oh god, email The Independent and ask them why they deleted the correction.
You're the same guy that asked for proof of the Senate Inquiry (which I provided to you) on Iraq/US arms claims, then disappeared without a trace afterwards. Do I need a restraining order yet, guys?
What you need is proof of your claim.
LOL, it took two days for you to post that link and more than 5 posts asking for you to post it. Please, deny that. You're right if you consider my posting that your point wasn't proven to mean disappearing. ::)
And now you're doing it again.
You started a thread stating something that you DID NOT prove. Now you want me to prove it for you.
You couldn't be more dishonest if you tried. LOL, I love it.
Here's "devil"
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Oh god, email The Independent and ask them why they deleted the correction.
You're the same guy that asked for proof of the Senate Inquiry (which I provided to you) on Iraq/US arms claims, then disappeared without a trace afterwards. Do I need a restraining order yet, guys?
Get the TRO! :D
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Get the TRO! :D
I need a higher fence, I think.
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I need a higher fence, I think.
Is there some kind of SPAM feature on this site? :)
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I'm not sure how th fight between between Berserker and Bruce started but it seems pretty bad that everyone gangs up on him for wanting a new mod based on the reasons he stated. I know some mentioned his web-blog thing which I have no knowledge of. I think if people put aside their personal feelings with him and hear him out on his reasons. Just dismissing him and his opinions seems to be a growing trend for many here.
No, he's very pompous, and also posts of things that are beneath him. If he would only just post his own thoughts, and do his due diligence when posting bloggers, he would have no prob being respected. People who have a good intellect are subject to greater judgement.
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No, he's very pompous, and also posts of things that are beneath him. If he would only just post his own thoughts, and do his due diligence when posting bloggers, he would have no prob being respected. People who have a good intellect are subject to greater judgement.
Wow, thanks - I think!
Do you have 'good intellect' Deedee? Will you debate me yet on your claim I am 'Right-Wing'?
I'll try and not post on anything 'beneath' me from now on, okay?
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Is there some kind of SPAM feature on this site? :)
Unfortunately not - Bill Gates has emailed me and said he'd just find a way around it anyway. I promise not to buy anymore Viagra from this guy.
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Oh god, email The Independent and ask them why they deleted the correction.
Could be because the story stood, and they were too eager to retract it. Does it matter? Can't you find some great conservative thinker for us to debate, not this dumbass shit?
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Could be because the story stood, and they were too eager to retract it. Does it matter? Can't you find some great conservative thinker for us to debate, not this dumbass shit?
Unfortunately, you have turned into a typical bile spitting Leftist, Deedee. What happened to you? I used to appreciate your moderate Left views.
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ExxonMobil
"In Editorial and Opinion on Saturday (3 February) we wrote that 'ExxonMobil is attempting to bribe scientists to pick holes in the IPPC's assessment (on climate change). We now recognise that this statement is incorrect and we withdraw it."
Those of you that like to use The Independent as a reliable news source should probably reconsider what you deem to be 'reliable'. I say this in tandem with their inability to correctly spell 'IPCC', as above.
The Independent has since removed this correction from their website, with no explanation forthcoming.
*CRICKETS*
;D
I was waiting for someone to pitch in, but the silence was deafening!
Many of the liberals on this site run like scalded dogs from the facts. :)
Whoops, don't say that too loudly - Beserker will berate you for having an opinion and then start a thread about your 'identity'!
Uh oh . . . . .
Sorry, buddy, it's his job as a Moderator to 'call you out' on it.
:) But I don't have an identity crisis. I'm an independent. No, wait, I'm a Republican! No, I'm a moderate Republican. Wait, I'm a libertarian. I'm SO confused! Maybe I should ask Allied Powers for help. :D
It all makes sense now, I got called out because I don't flip-flop!
My favorite part is the quote about Liberals running away like scalded dogs from facts. LOL
Why haven't you two clowns posted any proof on that thread? Oh, that's right, it was all lighthearted fun.
Looks like it's the conservative clowns running like scalded dogs from the facts. ::)
Notice how you didn't even post a link to that blog. LOL My guess is you knew you'd get crucified for referencing it. Maybe next time you can reference a blog from one of those people that doesn't believe the Holocaust actually happened.
Here's "devil".
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My favorite part is the quote about Liberals running away like scalded dogs from facts. LOL
Why haven't you two clowns posted any proof on that thread? Oh, that's right, it was all lighthearted fun.
Looks like it's the conservative clowns running like scalded dogs from the facts. ::)
Notice how you didn't even post a link to that blog. LOL My guess is you knew you'd get crucified for referencing it. Maybe next time you can reference a blog from one of those people that doesn't believe the Holocaust actually happened.
Here's "devil".
The story is fact, quote me on that. Prove me wrong, do some digging. If you can prove it wrong, I'll start a thread and apologise to the board, otherwise you will.
How does that sound?
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The story is fact, quote me on that. Prove me wrong, do some digging. If you can prove it wrong, I'll start a thread and apologise to the board, otherwise you will.
How does that sound?
LOL, here we go again.
The thread was yours not mine. It's your job to prove the point of your threads and you haven't proven anything. In fact you wouldn't even link the blog where you read it. ::)
Here's "devil".
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Wow, thanks - I think!
Do you have 'good intellect' Deedee? Will you debate me yet on your claim I am 'Right-Wing'?
I'll try and not post on anything 'beneath' me from now on, okay?
You're quite welcome.
No, I don't have a good intellect. And yet, you want to debate me? Okay. I find it very obvious that you are right wing, but if you think naught, I would be very willing to elucidate you.
Good then.
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well want are you Bruce? please tell. :)
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My favorite part is the quote about Liberals running away like scalded dogs from facts. LOL
Why haven't you two clowns posted any proof on that thread? Oh, that's right, it was all lighthearted fun.
Looks like it's the conservative clowns running like scalded dogs from the facts. ::)
Notice how you didn't even post a link to that blog. LOL My guess is you knew you'd get crucified for referencing it. Maybe next time you can reference a blog from one of those people that doesn't believe the Holocaust actually happened.
Here's "devil".
Oh look. It's the village idiot. Bruce I think we both need a TRO. :D
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You're quite welcome.
No, I don't have a good intellect. And yet, you want to debate me? Okay. I find it very obvious that you are right wing, but if you think naught, I would be very willing to elucidate you.
Good then.
Ah, you've changed your tune, excellent. I'll start a new thread shortly.
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Oh look. It's the village idiot. Bruce I think we both need a TRO. :D
Many of the liberals on this site run like scalded dogs from the facts. :)
Here's "devil"
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LOL, here we go again.
The thread was yours not mine. It's your job to prove the point of your threads and you haven't proven anything. In fact you wouldn't even link the blog where you read it. ::)
Here's "devil".
Yes, here we go again, you want to debate me, but won't provide any evidence or facts or.... well.... anything!
You are indeed the great opinion-less, fence sitting, insult hurling wonder!
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Just for the record.....
regarding the original thread.....
no need for more than 3 mods at this time.
If DL continues to be inactive then we can consider a replacement, but not now.
my opinion only.
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Here's "devil"
For those who would like to have a laugh at this member for repeatedly posting this chuckle-inspiring picture, please visit his excellent Weblog at:
http://dailyablution.blogs.com/the_daily_ablution/ (http://dailyablution.blogs.com/the_daily_ablution/)
I'm sure you'll be sharp enough to pick up on his mockery of Islamic terrorists, even if 'ieffin' doesn't!
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Just for the record.....
regarding the original thread.....
no need for more than 3 mods at this time.
If DL continues to be inactive then we can consider a replacement, but not now.
my opinion only.
Thanks Ozmo, I think this what I was getting at originally.
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Unfortunately, you have turned into a typical bile spitting Leftist, Deedee. What happened to you? I used to appreciate your moderate Left views.
Which ones? I never really gave any, except once, I proposed that torture has always been a part of our combined world history. Didn't catch you chiming in...
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For those who would like to have a laugh at this member for repeatedly posting this chuckle-inspiring picture, please visit his excellent Weblog at:
http://dailyablution.blogs.com/the_daily_ablution/ (http://dailyablution.blogs.com/the_daily_ablution/)
I'm sure you'll be sharp enough to pick up on his mockery of Islamic terrorists, even if 'ieffin' doesn't!
Interesting how you wouldn't post that link in the original thread, I had to.
Yes, here we go again, you want to debate me, but won't provide any evidence or facts or.... well.... anything!
You are indeed the great opinion-less, fence sitting, insult hurling wonder!
Ironic isn't it that you'd mention facts when your thread contained none. ::)
Here's "devil".
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Which ones? I never really gave any, except once, I proposed that torture has always been a part of our combined world history. Didn't catch you chiming in...
I don't remember that post of yours (it may have been before my time), but you did used to engage me in moderate debate (eg. Polar Bears etc.).
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Ah, you've changed your tune, excellent. I'll start a new thread shortly.
Lol, excuse me?
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Lol, excuse me?
I wouldn't even bother Double D. ;D Come to our terrorism discussion.
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Interesting how you wouldn't post that link in the original thread, I had to.
Considering it came originally from The Independent's website, why should I have?
Anyway, with my veritable super-sleuth around (yeah, I mean you), why post sites, when I can have you 'fact-check' me, hey?
Start a thread and call me out in a debate on something, so I can dismantle you before the board, okay?
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Lol, excuse me?
First you said you would not debate me on this, and now, I take it, you will.
Am I mistaken?
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Considering it came originally from The Independent's website, why should I have?
Anyway, with my veritable super-sleuth around (yeah, I mean you), why post sites, when I can have you 'fact-check' me, hey?
Start a thread and call me out in a debate on something, so I can dismantle you before the board, okay?
Then post a link it. Post some kind of proof not just the word of some blogger.
Where is your proof.
Why won't you post any proof?
That's right, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY.
Well, you have "devil".
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Then post a link it. Post some kind of proof not just the word of some blogger.
Where is your proof.
Why won't you post any proof?
That's right, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY.
Well, you have "devil".
My stalker alert is set to 'high', should I go to 'extreme' yet, guys?
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My stalker alert is set to 'high', should I go to 'extreme' yet, guys?
Do it! Do it! :D The village idiot is after you.
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My stalker alert is set to 'high', should I go to 'extreme' yet, guys?
Why don't you admit that you were caught off gaurd when you expected no one question your source, which by the way as a blogger. ::)
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I don't remember that post of yours (it may have been before my time), but you did used to engage me in moderate debate (eg. Polar Bears etc.).
No, it was more of a last tuesday kind of a post. I was amazed actually. I gave great post on the whole idea of torture and Algeria, and how it translates today, it was lost in the myriad of "no you suck, no you suck"
I engaged you because as little as you do due diligence, you do write good headlines.
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Why don't you admit that you were caught off gaurd when you expected no one question your source, which by the way as a blogger. ::)
Start a new thread if you can prove me wrong, and then I will start my own and apologise.
If you can't, then you should do the same.
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No, it was more of a last tuesday kind of a post. I was amazed actually. I gave great post on the whole idea of torture and Algeria, and how it translates today, it was lost in the myriad of "no you suck, no you suck"
I engaged you because as little as you do due diligence, you do write good headlines.
'Due dilligence'? Has anyone proven me wrong on anything here? If so, can you show me?
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Do it! Do it! :D The village idiot is after you.
Who was the 41st President of the US again? I wonder if he's slapped any actress ass more than once recently.
My stalker alert is set to 'high', should I go to 'extreme' yet, guys?
Notice how he completely ignores the whole issue of proof? Nice job of changing the subject, too bad it didn't work.
Here's "devil".
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Hhaha!
That picture made me cough up some black label and due to my consumption, I just might have to retire for the night.
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Notice how he completely ignores the whole issue of proof? Nice job of changing the subject, too bad it didn't work.
Your 'proof', where would that be? I told you if you prove me wrong I'll start a new thread and apologise, otherwise you can.
Are you afraid?
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Your 'proof', where would that be? I told you if you prove me wrong I'll start a new thread and apologise, otherwise you can.
Are you afraid?
Hey Brucie I think the village idiot likes you. :) Following you around like a lost puppy. Just go ahead and give him your phone number already.
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Your 'proof', where would that be? I told you if you prove me wrong I'll start a new thread and apologise, otherwise you can.
Are you afraid?
Perhaps you missed the whole point of starting a thread that makes a claim.
You have to prove it. You didn't. Your thread, your claim, your proof. Too bad you don't have any proof.
Where is the proof?
Here's "devil".
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'Due dilligence'? Has anyone proven me wrong on anything here? If so, can you show me?
Well, yes. I have. Please go back and look at several threads I've responded to, then reply here, then go back and look at your heart.
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Well, yes. I have. Please go back and look at several threads I've responded to, then reply here, then go back and look at your heart.
Haha, you can't be serious with that comment!
Go ahead and post away my errors, or apologise.