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Title: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Rob1986 on October 08, 2006, 01:19:29 PM
1 Jay Cutler USA 10 5 5 20 
2 Ronnie Coleman USA 20 10 10 40 
3 Ronnie Rockel Germany 30 15 15 60 
4 Yamagishi Hidetada Japan 46 21 21 88 
5 Eddie Abbew United Kingdom 48 24 24 96 
6 Lee Powell United Kingdom 60 30  90 
7 Yaroslav Horvath Slovakia 70 35  105 
8 Neset Icli Netherlands 88 42  130 
9 Alexander Federov Russia 88 44  132 
10 Trevor Chrouch United Kingdom 106 53  159 
11 Tommi Thorvildsen Norway 106 56  162 
12 Alison Maria Netherlands 110 55  165 
13 Aiman Faour Lebanon 130 65  195 
14 Armando Alcazar Spain 140 70  210 
15 Oleg Makshantsev Russia 150 75  225




Callout 1: Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, Ronnie Rockel, Eddie Abbew
callout 2: Lee Powell, Hidetada Yamagishi, Ronnie Rockel, Eddie Abbew
callout 3: Jaroslav Horvath, Alex Federov, Alison Maria, Neset Icli, Trevor ...
callout 4: Tommi Thorvildsen, Alex Federov, Alison Maria, Neset Icli, Trevor ...
callout 5: Armando Oleg, unknown from Lebanon
callout 6: Jaroslav Horvath, Eddie Abbew, Lee Powell
callout 7: Hidetada Yamagishi, Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, Ronnie Rockel
Title: Re: Jay Cutler wins DUTCH GP!
Post by: M75 on October 08, 2006, 01:21:04 PM
Clean sweep, congrats to Cutler.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler wins DUTCH GP!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 08, 2006, 01:23:56 PM
I'm glad Rockel got a fair shake by the Euro judges congrats to him and Jay !
Title: Re: Jay Cutler wins DUTCH GP!
Post by: HERACLES on October 08, 2006, 01:24:54 PM
Yep, COngrats to Jay, watch out for his boy Shaun Crump, competing in Nationals in november....its gonna be his year, Jay is coaching him.  8)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler wins DUTCH GP!
Post by: The Viking on October 08, 2006, 01:32:58 PM
Ronnie looked better than Cutler. The crowd went wild when he came on stage, they didn`t when Cutler came on. Coleman really was the crowd favourite.
Rockel was great, but when compared with Cutler and Coleman he looked like a midget. But Rockel was ripped and his coloring was perfect.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler wins DUTCH GP!
Post by: MattT on October 08, 2006, 01:41:23 PM
Ronnie looked better than Cutler. The crowd went wild when he came on stage, they didn`t when Cutler came on. Coleman really was the crowd favourite.
Rockel was great, but when compared with Cutler and Coleman he looked like a midget. But Rockel was ripped and his coloring was perfect.

see people im general just like Ronnie better..
Title: Re: Jay Cutler wins DUTCH GP!
Post by: slayer on October 08, 2006, 01:44:24 PM
see people im general just like Ronnie better..
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on October 08, 2006, 02:19:52 PM
Good for Rockel! hurrah!
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: The Viking on October 08, 2006, 02:40:06 PM
The Japanese guy Yamagashi was great, but also short (5`3).
Lee Powel also looked great, ripped and good symmetry.
Fedorov was in better shape than at the last two competitions, his thighs where the biggest on stage, just like his biceps ant triceps, better than Cutler. His colring is just bad.
Nesset Icli ( a Dutchman) made his pro debut and looked great. He won the Mister Universe yesterday and just lost too much mass too get ripped. But still, a great back and good (22`) arms, he just needs time.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler wins DUTCH GP!
Post by: Mobil on October 08, 2006, 03:32:39 PM
see people im general just like Ronnie better..

well the olympia is a much larger venue with alot more people there. it went totally nuts when jay came out
Title: Re: Jay Cutler wins DUTCH GP!
Post by: beatmaster on October 08, 2006, 03:33:02 PM
Ronnie looked better than Cutler. The crowd went wild when he came on stage, they didn`t when Cutler came on. Coleman really was the crowd favourite.

oooooook, it doesn't mean because the crowd went wild he look better, the guy won 8 times mr. olympia (wich to me is too much and i don't think he should have won all 8 of them).

yeah, ronnie look better, that's why he lost 4 times in a roll, yeah, hmmm hmmm, i see what you mean  ::)
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: swilkins1984 on October 08, 2006, 04:50:52 PM
Cutler takes 3 in a row!  Congrats to him
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: delta9mda on October 08, 2006, 05:00:07 PM
Cutler takes 3 in a row!  Congrats to him
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Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: TN on October 08, 2006, 05:36:05 PM
Some good pics   
http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php?p=116855#post116855

I thought Ronnie and Jay looked pretty good for their 4th show in 8 days
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Adam Empire on October 08, 2006, 07:26:09 PM
Sweet lasers at the show - pointing right at the crowds eyes!
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: gmflex on October 08, 2006, 07:36:47 PM
Congrats Jay!!!
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: MisterGX on October 08, 2006, 08:28:58 PM
Some good pics   
http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php?p=116855#post116855

I thought Ronnie and Jay looked pretty good for their 4th show in 8 days

That's the best Ronnie has looked in the past two weeks, but Jay was better...
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: willie mosconi on October 08, 2006, 08:53:58 PM
That's the best Ronnie has looked in the past two weeks, but Jay was better...

This one was a toss up IMO
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 08, 2006, 09:13:47 PM
Amazing showing from Hidetada - 12th to 6th to 4th (all-tme best in an IBB Pro show by a native Oriental) in the Euro GP shows, barely missing an Olympia spot for '07! :o
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Harry R. M. Pitts on October 08, 2006, 09:16:48 PM
Ronnie looked sharper from the back IMO  should have one this one.

(http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/7378/backrf9.jpg)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler wins DUTCH GP!
Post by: chainsaw on October 08, 2006, 10:24:05 PM
Ronnie looked better than Cutler. The crowd went wild when he came on stage, they didn`t when Cutler came on. Coleman really was the crowd favourite.
Rockel was great, but when compared with Cutler and Coleman he looked like a midget. But Rockel was ripped and his coloring was perfect.
I'am laughing so hard right now as is probably about %90 of everyone.  You will come around, I have faith.  4 out of 4 says it all.  We all would think...
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: fathead on October 08, 2006, 10:57:30 PM
Ronnie looked better today. Go look at the pics. I would of given Ronnie the Olympia Jay the 2 middle shows and Ronnie the last one. I was at the O the pictures and video don't do Ronnie justice you gotta see it in person.
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: monte45 on October 09, 2006, 12:00:36 AM
Cutler is Most deffinitly a champion....but it shouldnt have been this year ,ronnies conditioning was better PERIOD! and all three shows jay deserves it but giving him the Olympia was enough you would think between them two it would comedown to conditioning and the winner was clearly coleman...this is getting outrageous....What are they tring to prove....ya colmans coacky but you can be when you have 8 O's i seriously think the judges just wanted to shut him up...BOGOUS!
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: arce377 on October 09, 2006, 12:03:30 AM
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Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: the shadow on October 09, 2006, 12:36:11 AM
Cutler is Most deffinitly a champion....but it shouldnt have been this year ,ronnies conditioning was better PERIOD! and all three shows jay deserves it but giving him the Olympia was enough you would think between them two it would comedown to conditioning and the winner was clearly coleman...this is getting outrageous....What are they tring to prove....ya colmans coacky but you can be when you have 8 O's i seriously think the judges just wanted to shut him up...BOGOUS!
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLH...just look at the video and then tell me..coleman looked torn virtually from every part of his body..the man is washed out..no point competing
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Arnold_Anabo on October 09, 2006, 01:38:13 AM
Here we go:

http://www.bbszene.de/show.php4?/text.php4?id=1035
http://www.bbszene.de/show.php4?/text.php4?id=1036

Jeff and Ben.
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: backday on October 09, 2006, 01:46:02 AM
IMO Coleman won this last one by looking at the pics :)
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: fang on October 09, 2006, 03:55:11 AM
You don't hear this often but Ronnie got robbed!
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Weightpit on October 09, 2006, 04:50:04 AM
You don't hear this often but Ronnie got robbed!

Okay....tell us how Ronnie was robbed of 1st place??? Actually, Rockel was robbed of 2nd....Jay was the clear winner - Ronnie was lucky to get 2nd.....pics don't lie.

Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Weightpit on October 09, 2006, 04:51:06 AM
One More...

Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Weightpit on October 09, 2006, 04:54:48 AM
Having said all that - I think this was the best Ronnie has looked in ALL the shows including the Olympia.  I would love to see him come back next year.

Congrats to Jay - this last show was the best he's also looked since the Austrian show. Two great champions!!



Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: DK II on October 09, 2006, 04:57:06 AM
Congrats to Yamagishi Hidetada!!

in Japan, they call him 'Big Hide', although in Europe we would call him 'Medium Hide'.
He lacks in the height department.

Maybe we could devide the Mr. O in two classes again, but this time Midgets and normal people.
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on October 09, 2006, 05:05:58 AM
Ronnie did get robbed and if you look at Jay in the pic where Ronnie is giving the two thumbs up, it looks like Jay thought Ronnie won also. There are some pics of Jay which are out of sight, yet any one arm shot looks less then great.

If one thing came of this at least you don't hear anyone saying Ronnie should call it a day anymore.

The Beef
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Weightpit on October 09, 2006, 05:11:39 AM
Ronnie did get robbed and if you look at Jay in the pic where Ronnie is giving the two thumbs up, it looks like Jay thought Ronnie won also. There are some pics of Jay which are out of sight, yet any one arm shot looks less then great.

If one thing came of this at least you don't hear anyone saying Ronnie should call it a day anymore.

The Beef

Jay has him beat from the back, legs and abs.........
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: backday on October 09, 2006, 05:20:29 AM
Jay has him beat from the back, legs and abs.........

Nah, I don`t think so ;D

(http://i12.tinypic.com/2gsn241.jpg)
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Weightpit on October 09, 2006, 05:44:10 AM
Nah, I don`t think so ;D

(http://i12.tinypic.com/2gsn241.jpg)

Okay...that's one back shot....let's see the abs now....and the legs.....
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: backday on October 09, 2006, 06:26:18 AM
Hard to find all pics from Amsterdam, this one is OK though.

(http://i12.tinypic.com/2zxpm39.jpg)(http://i12.tinypic.com/2ues6r5.jpg)
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: DK II on October 09, 2006, 06:28:06 AM
Any Yamagishi pics?

How is his gyno?
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: backday on October 09, 2006, 06:42:45 AM
(http://i12.tinypic.com/35iq3ae.jpg)
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: the shadow on October 09, 2006, 07:20:05 AM
(http://i12.tinypic.com/35iq3ae.jpg)
jay is pwning ronnie there..no contest wat so ever..jay deserves all of his wins...it shows that ronnie is weak next to jay
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on October 09, 2006, 07:41:38 AM
Jay has him beat from the back, legs and abs.........

Just out of curiosity, who the fuck are you?

Take a look at the pics, Jay his  ass which starts at his lower back and runs down his femur. Don't let a well cut pair of trunks fool ya son. And the 2 largest waist in BB ( only Atwood has him there )

Ronnie has him in delts, arms, pecs, lats, glutes and he has a more dramatic structure.

RONNIE HAD HIM. PERIOD!

The Beef

Title: Re: Jay Cutler wins DUTCH GP!
Post by: wood on October 09, 2006, 08:09:30 AM
Yep, COngrats to Jay, watch out for his boy Shaun Crump, competing in Nationals in november....its gonna be his year, Jay is coaching him.  8)

Shaun is one to watch for, from my area, great physique, classic poser...seen him guest pose a couple times at local shows.  this may be his year! 
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: kyomu on October 09, 2006, 10:22:29 AM
Wow actually,Ronnie is beating Cutler with his back shot in this pic! :o
(http://i12.tinypic.com/2gsn241.jpg)
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Weightpit on October 09, 2006, 11:12:05 AM
Just out of curiosity, who the f**k are you?

Take a look at the pics, Jay his  ass which starts at his lower back and runs down his femur. Don't let a well cut pair of trunks fool ya son. And the 2 largest waist in BB ( only Atwood has him there )

Ronnie has him in delts, arms, pecs, lats, glutes and he has a more dramatic structure.

RONNIE HAD HIM. PERIOD!

The Beef



Whoa Beef.....hold on there.....no need to be porky....I'm your bud, okay?? We're going to have to agree to disagree here. I admit that this was close, but if you check out the pics I posted, Jay looks to ME to be in a just a bit better condition. Look, Ronnie at his all time best is UNTOUCHABLE!!! Even Jay would admit that......but this past weekend was not Ronnie's best.

Are we cool now??
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: stomper on October 09, 2006, 12:56:11 PM
ronnie should have won this one
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: The BEAST on October 09, 2006, 01:08:29 PM
Okay...that's one back shot....let's see the abs now....and the legs.....

Maybe Jay has better calves but Legs...nope that definitely goes to Ronnie
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: leycus 101 on October 09, 2006, 01:18:41 PM
Maybe Jay has better calves but Legs...nope that definitely goes to Ronnie





Ronnies legs are huge but overall it goes to jay  :-*
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: legbreaker on October 09, 2006, 01:48:52 PM
Ronnie is simply a far better bodybuilder.  He was off (for him) at the O, but obviously got everything together within a weeks time and produced a more similar "ronnie" physique...maybe 90%, which EVERYONE knows is enough to make everyone else on stage at the show look like an amatuer.  Never, should a mr. o have synthol arms and shoulders...it just goes against the very grain of the game of bodybuilding....and please to you idiots that will say Jay has never used synthol, I know the real thruth.
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Dan-O on October 09, 2006, 04:03:51 PM
Ronnie is simply a far better bodybuilder.  He was off (for him) at the O, but obviously got everything together within a weeks time and produced a more similar "ronnie" physique...maybe 90%, which EVERYONE knows is enough to make everyone else on stage at the show look like an amatuer.  Never, should a mr. o have synthol arms and shoulders...it just goes against the very grain of the game of bodybuilding....and please to you idiots that will say Jay has never used synthol, I know the real thruth.

Ronnie was definitely the best in the Holland show...  it was a bullshit decision which presumably was calculated to increase the IFBB's credibility but instead has eroded it even further.

(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06dutch/menpre2/images/aabr0401.jpg)
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on October 09, 2006, 10:10:23 PM
Whoa Beef.....hold on there.....no need to be porky....I'm your bud, okay?? We're going to have to agree to disagree here. I admit that this was close, but if you check out the pics I posted, Jay looks to ME to be in a just a bit better condition. Look, Ronnie at his all time best is UNTOUCHABLE!!! Even Jay would admit that......but this past weekend was not Ronnie's best.

Are we cool now??

Listen bro, I was out of line . . . I am sorry. My life's in the toilet and I was drinking and being a total asshole. You do make some good points.

The Beef.
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Weightpit on October 10, 2006, 05:05:08 AM
Listen bro, I was out of line . . . I am sorry. My life's in the toilet and I was drinking and being a total asshole. You do make some good points.

The Beef.

No worries, dude.....all is okay. Check your inbox.......

Take care and stay healthy!!!
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Charlys69 on October 10, 2006, 09:58:50 AM
The european GP Tour (in my opinion) is no real contest. Itīs a show event to present the worlds most famous Bodybuilders to the european fans. To beat a Mr. Olympia on this tour you not only have to be better than the reigning Mr. Olympia, you simply have to outclass him to win 1. Place.
What i heard from friends watching the european contests where, that Cutler derserve the wins in Austria + Romania. In Amsterdam Ronnie came better than in the other two GP and was maybe the real winner in Amsterdam. I also heard rumors that the judges "had a problem" to declare who is the head-judge at that contest. In the end that could be a major factor for Cutlers win in Amsterdam.

But who cares...the real Olympia revenche will be next year in Las Vegas. That`s the most interesting factor for next years contest. That reminds me a little bit on heavyweight boxing (Ali-Foreman, Holyfield-Tyson).

Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: NOYT4ME on October 10, 2006, 10:44:31 AM
RONNIE GOT ROBBED
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 10, 2006, 10:51:59 AM
RONNIE GOT ROBBED

x10
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Aerian on October 10, 2006, 11:50:00 AM
Ronnie looks great in the pic

Ya gotta wonder if he came in this condition and size at the olympia, if jay would still be the new Mr. Olympia.

I think ronnie would be have won and been the all time greatest.
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Danny on October 10, 2006, 04:00:52 PM
Wow ...Ronnie looks amazing.. :o
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: Bast000 on October 10, 2006, 06:09:19 PM
Maybe Jay has better calves but Legs...nope that definitely goes to Ronnie

no you have the best legs.  ;)
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: HERACLES on October 10, 2006, 08:03:32 PM
no you have the best legs.  ;)

Yep. I concur!  :)
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: chainsaw on October 10, 2006, 10:45:32 PM
RONNIE GOT ROBBED
You are blind.  No, the pictures are photoshoped.  I don't blame you, I saw the "O".  Suck it up and admit defeat.  1,000's of people can't be wrong.  color]
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: The BEAST on October 11, 2006, 08:12:27 AM
no you have the best legs.  ;)
Yep. I concur!  :)

Thanks boys for the nice compliment, you are both wonderful :)  Anf Bast I am counting down the days until our "date"  :-*
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: AlliedPowers on October 11, 2006, 10:09:34 PM
jay cutler will not lose again for two years.


911 was an Inside Job (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726&q=loose+change&hl=en)
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: willie mosconi on October 19, 2006, 10:09:47 PM
u guys can type as large as u want to( napolean complex if i'v ever seen one)  that doesn't change the fact that ronnie 's mid section still looks like it hit up a Burger King drive thru before the show that one glaring problem should keep him from winning any of the last four shows and thankfully it has

valid point
Title: Re: Dutch Grand Prix: Jay Cutler
Post by: body88 on October 22, 2006, 11:24:40 AM
u guys can type as large as u want to( napolean complex if i'v ever seen one)  that doesn't change the fact that ronnie 's mid section still looks like it hit up a Burger King drive thru before the show that one glaring problem should keep him from winning any of the last four shows and thankfully it has

Torn lat, tri and right lower quad added to the massive gut as the reason he lost :-[