Flex Wheeler!!!
arnold...he brought bodybuilding out of the backrooms and into the forefrontagreed.
arnold...he brought bodybuilding out of the backrooms and into the forefront
'Nuff said. ;Dchicken legs
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/ga10.jpg)
chicken legs
jay cutler should also be considered the greatest mr olympia cuz after 22yrs of stalemate ,cutler finally beats a reigning mr olympia.and the matter of fact that jay beat ronnie fair and square makes it even more impressive...
Arnold didn't have the biggest thighs...but it was in complete balance with his upper body
but is beating Ronnie at age 43 really that impressive?
seriously.
if Jay was as great as some on the board hype him up to be, he would have beat Ronnie a few years ago - eg in 2003.
In order for Jay to be considered as great as he is by some, he had to beat the best when they are at their best.
that has never happened.
Arnold didn't have the biggest thighs...but it was in complete balance with his upper body
No it was not. His upper body (supersized chest, his delts and arms) overpowers his thighs/calves and not the best forearms. Arnolds perfect balance is a myth.
Arnold didn't have the biggest thighs...but it was in complete balance with his upper body
Arnold, not because of his physiqe, but everything else he brought. Mainly charisma.............Arn ie has it anywhere in the world and more than all the other Mr. O's put together who dont even come close to him in that regaurd.
Arnold didn't have the biggest thighs...but it was in complete balance with his upper bodyno not really. youz be on dat crack as ronnies says. arnolds legs were not in balance or proportion to his upper body. get real.
In terms of wins (undisputed)...Lee Haney. There was only one Olympia where Lee was not at his absolute best (91 against Lee Labrada). Great personality and a fitting champion. Ronnie has the same number of wins as Haney but 2001 and 2002 were very controversial against Jay and Kevin Levrone respectively. In terms of THE GREATEST overall, Arnold Schwarzenegger because he was an almost unbeatable champion in his day and has given SO much back after his career ended. From Austrian immigrant to champion bodybuilder to movie icon to contest promotor to Governor of California...no one will top that.get it right, 89 or 90 haney had problems with flea and that was the drug tested show and lee was off.
In terms of wins (undisputed)...Lee Haney. There was only one Olympia where Lee was not at his absolute best (91 against Lee Labrada). Great personality and a fitting champion. Ronnie has the same number of wins as Haney but 2001 and 2002 were very controversial against Jay and Kevin Levrone respectively. In terms of THE GREATEST overall, Arnold Schwarzenegger because he was an almost unbeatable champion in his day and has given SO much back after his career ended. From Austrian immigrant to champion bodybuilder to movie icon to contest promotor to Governor of California...no one will top that.
but is beating Ronnie at age 43 really that impressive?
seriously.
if Jay was as great as some on the board hype him up to be, he would have beat Ronnie a few years ago - eg in 2003.
In order for Jay to be considered as great as he is by some, he had to beat the best when they are at their best.
that has never happened.
I dont see why there are so many Arnold nut huggers on this thread. He is not the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time. Yes he did his little movies that made him famous but if arnold just competing in bbing and didnt do any acting then nobody would have heard of him(outside of bbing). The greatest Mr. Olympia should go to Lee Haney. Ronnie should be next......
Idontsee why there are so many Arnold nut huggers on this thread. He isnotthe greatest Mr. Olympia of all time.
The man is a true inspirational machine...
i would sya it is a toss between ronnie coleman and jay..ronnie coleman dominanted this sport for 8 years and each year ronnie came in looking bigger and better..this guy set the bar so high that won't be reached by any one.jay cutler should also be considered the greatest mr olympia cuz after 22yrs of stalemate ,cutler finally beats a reigning mr olympia.and the matter of fact that jay beat ronnie fair and square makes it even more impressive...long live jay and ronnie
I dont see why there are so many Arnold nut huggers on this thread. He is not the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time. Yes he did his little movies that made him famous but if arnold just competing in bbing and didnt do any acting then nobody would have heard of him(outside of bbing). The greatest Mr. Olympia should go to Lee Haney. Ronnie should be next......
:D
Right on! Nobody can best him!
Arnold-traitor! :P
No it was not. His upper body (supersized chest, his delts and arms) overpowers his thighs/calves and not the best forearms. Arnolds perfect balance is a myth.
If Ronnie was really as good as some on the board hype him up to be , he would have beat Dorian a few years ago - e.g 1996 lol you have to be carefull what you type slick
and Jay did beat Ronnie in both the symmetry and muscularity rounds of the 2001 Mr Olympia but Ronnie someone ' wins ' the whole contest with the posing rounds and mind you NO ONE in the history of the contest has ever lost the prejudging and won the contest with the posing rounds , Ronnie was a very lucky man
And for the record Arnold Schwarzenegger is the greatest Mr Olympia of all times , he was the standard bearer , he was the first to win six consecutive Mr Olympia titles , he could have won 14 if he wanted to , he retired at 28 and in all probablity never reached his full potential , he could have very easily won in 1976/77/78/79/81/82/83 Haney would have stopped him but he faced no one post his reign that he couldn't have beaten
And being the greatest Mr Olympia doesn't just encompass how many Sandows you have its more , Arnold went on to achive success that no one could have imagined and he still stayed true to his bodybuilding roots ( although thats changes because of his politics ) and he's done more for public exposure for bodybuilding than any former winner
Arnold is the original and the greatest !
arnold.
without him, there may not even be a mr. olympia or bbing after him.
who else has influenced as many people to take up bbing than arnold.
Not only is Arnold Schwarzenegger the greatest Mr. Olympia ever, he's also the greates bodybuilder of the 20th century! The official recognition was given to Arnold by Ben Weider at the 1997 Arnold Classic when Ben gave him the "Gold Order of the IFBB".
Ben Weider: "It is a great pleasure to present this outstanding award to Arnold as the greatest of the 20th century. Afterall, the next medal will be presented 100 years from now." He added, "Arnold has the mind, the heart and the soul of a champion."
So there you have it. Don't you think that's saying a lot? I think so! ;D
If we're going to be honest, Arnold did have some flaws: not all of his muscle bellies were long, his skeletal frame wasn't as perfect as Oliva's and he did have some muscular assymetries.
However, and even though he was not genetically perfect, he was gifted enough which, when combined with his clinical approach to building his body, resulted in a physique that combined mass, proportions and aesthetics like no other. Arnold is the greatest ever, but not in terms o innate potential. If we're atalkig about innate genetic potential, then the greates bodybuilders of all times were, in no particular order:
- Sergio Oliva
- Kevin Levrone
- Flex Wheeler
- Aaron Backer
- Denis Newman
- Francis Benfatto
- Phil Heath
Chris Cormier could also have made that list, although I think his torso is a little long. Anyway, the men I mentioned are the only ones who had a close to perfect skeletal frame, combined with uniformaly long muscle bellies throughout their bodies.
Now, Heath is another special case. He is vastly genetically superior to Cutler, but he won't be Mr.Olympia or a while because he needs to pile up at least 30 lbs of mass for that to happen. Now, if he can do that and maintain the crispness of details, hardness and symmetry that he displayed at the Colorado Pro Show, not only will he defeat Cutler with straight-firsts scores, but he will undoubtedly become the greatest Mr.Olympia of all times. The reason why I hesitate making a prediction is that lots of guys who look phenomenal at 230 or 240 lbs lose a lot of details, hardness when they go above 250 lbs, and they develop several symmetrical anomalies, such as gettig a distended gut. I Heath can control that, wow...he will have a physique that not even Fidias would be able to replicate On marble! :o
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Now it's obvious that the frightening Yates ball-worship & warped views extend to Schwarzenegger-no Olympia without Arnold? LMAO
Schwarzenegger's thighs were undersized but with good presentation and in the context of excellent shapes & cuts and alongside great calves, it worked. Wasn't a noticable shortcoming.
For the sport: Schwarzenegger100%correct
From strictly a bodybuilding point of view: Coleman
From strictly a bodybuilding point of view: Coleman
How does Steve Reeves not make that list?
more racism from our resident hater of any and all white bbers.
How? Where does it say that a gut and undersized calves (and gyno) mean you're the peak of bodybuilding development?
From a strictly BB point of view, I'd say it has to be Sergio.
Because dumbass, Reeves was never Mr. Olympia and no one but you fantasizes about sleeping with him.
How? Where does it say that a gut and undersized calves (and gyno) mean you're the peak of bodybuilding development?Even if you have huge gut, you are forgiven if you have another bodyparts match.
From a strictly BB point of view, I'd say it has to be Sergio.
Reeves won contest equivalent to the mr. Olympia. In his day he was the best!
Thanks for stating the obvious kid!
The one and only Arnold,yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
fuck the legs. Have you seen todays bodybuilders walk?? They can`t.
Bannout in his prime also was a great bodybuilder.
And yes, I also thin Sergio was great.
coleman 98' !!!!!!! arnold is one of the greatest of all time while in his prime. however, he could beat coleman, haney, yates, levrone, or wheeler in their primes.
What part of "Frank 'Greatest Mr. Olympia Of All Time' Zane" don't you understand?
(http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/frankzane/frankzane15.jpg)
I'll admit that Serge Nubret was even better.
But he wasn't Mr. Olympia. :)
What part of "Frank 'Greatest Mr. Olympia Of All Time' Zane" don't you understand?
(http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/frankzane/frankzane15.jpg)
Just Serge? What about Arnold and Sergio?
I think Frank had the more complete, aesthetic physique.
I concede it's a minority opinion.
You must be a tiny tit.
I knew I wouldn't be able to say anything against Arnold without you trying to scratch my eyes out. :-\
There are 5 mr. Olympia competitors in that picture and you picked the smallest one.
I didn't pick Franco. :)
For the sport: Schwarzenegger
From strictly a bodybuilding point of view: Coleman
Because dumbass, Reeves was never Mr. Olympia and no one but you fantasizes about sleeping with him.
You are saying Ronnie Coleman has a better physique than Sergio Oliva did? NO WAY!
Aesthetically? No... from a sheer bodybuilding standpoint of putting on the most amount of muscle and being as conditioned as possible? Yes. Just one white man's opinion ;D
in terms of who would win a bodybuilding contest, then Ronnie
Your trying to tell me Coleman ever could hold a candle to this man?
Pumpster, you are an idiot. I replied to this post moron.
Re: WHO is THE GREATEST MR OLYMPIA OF ALL TIME....
However, and even though he was not genetically perfect, he was gifted enough which, when combined with his clinical approach to building his body, resulted in a physique that combined mass, proportions and aesthetics like no other. Arnold is the greatest ever, but not in terms o innate potential. If we're atalkig about innate genetic potential, then the greates bodybuilders of all times were, in no particular order:
- Sergio Oliva
- Kevin Levrone
- Flex Wheeler
- Aaron Backer
- Denis Newman
- Francis Benfatto
- Phil Heath
Chris Cormier could also have made that list, although I think his torso is a little long. Anyway, the men I mentioned are the only ones who had a close to perfect skeletal frame, combined with uniformaly long muscle bellies throughout their bodies.
Now, Heath is another special case. He is vastly genetically superior to Cutler, but he won't be Mr.Olympia or a while because he needs to pile up at least 30 lbs of mass for that to happen. Now, if he can do that and maintain the crispness of details, hardness and symmetry that he displayed at the Colorado Pro Show, not only will he defeat Cutler with straight-firsts scores, but he will undoubtedly become the greatest Mr.Olympia of all times. The reason why I hesitate making a prediction is that lots of guys who look phenomenal at 230 or 240 lbs lose a lot of details, hardness when they go above 250 lbs, and they develop several symmetrical anomalies, such as gettig a distended gut. I Heath can control that, wow...he will have a physique that not even Fidias would be able to replicate On marble! Shocked
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MOST OF THE GUYS ON HIS LIST WEREN'T MR. OLYMPIAS FAGBOY. DUH! PUT ON SOME GLASSES NERD.
Did I say they were standard-bearers, you moron? No. I said these were the bodybuilders who had the most innate genetic potential or bodybuilding, exemplified by having a perect skeletal frame and long muscle bellies.
I think you're just upset about how badly I owned you at the Hugo Chavez thread on the general topics boards. What a waste of time you are or me. Loser.
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Dude, I don't know if this was addressed to me but I WAS REFERRING TO PUMPSTER YOU ROTTEN TOOTH ENGLISH FUCKWIT! You haven't owned anybody on GetBig so get over yourself. What happens is you get hammered and then disapear for a month and then work up your courage to post again so shut the fuck up retard.
Dude, I don't know if this was addressed to me but I WAS REFERRING TO PUMPSTER YOU ROTTEN TOOTH ENGLISH FUCKWIT! You haven't owned anybody on GetBig so get over yourself. What happens is you get hammered and then disapear for a month and then work up your courage to post again so shut the fuck up retard.
Then why did you quote my post, ####? Are you so fucking stupid that you can't even quote the right poster? Moron. And by the way, who said that I ran away for a month? None of you twits replied to my posts, so I thought the issue was over. Yeah, I'm scared of the big bad geek boy shouting in caps over his computer screen. ;D
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=69359.0;attach=87820;image)
That's the most iconic bodybuilding picture of the decade. :(
Who asked you to be scared dork?
What about waist to shoulder differential? Proportions? Having calf development?
Dorian is the greatest Mr. Olympia....just look at these pictures:
Franco is bigger than Zane. If Zane is not natural then that is the saddest thing.