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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: bmacsys on November 15, 2006, 05:40:12 PM
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He may have went down as an all time great if things hadn't been so freaking crooked in the IFBB in the late 70's, early 80's. Who knows. Maybe if things were fair he wouldn't have wigged out.
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He may have went down as an all time great if things hadn't been so freaking crooked in the IFBB in the late 70's, early 80's. Who knows. Maybe if things were fair he wouldn't have wigged out.
What the hell are you talking about??
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aaahhhhhh. picture or name would help
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whateva, don't you have to hide that from your federation?
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whateva, don't you have to hide that from your federation?
ooops :'(
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What's "WNBF"?
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aaahhhhhh. picture or name would help
Oh shit! :o
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He may have went down as an all time great if things hadn't been so freaking crooked in the IFBB in the late 70's, early 80's. Who knows....
Doom knows. You're wrong! Bah!
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aaahhhhhh. picture or name would help
Its mentzer before the 80 Mr olympia
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Yes he did.
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He would have been 55 today...
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/ment1-1.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/ment2-1.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/ment3-1.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/ment4.jpg)
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what guy this day and age has lines like this man ???
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Agreed; Mike was one of the best.
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Agreed; Mike was one of the best.
Yes he was, but he also was on crazy mofo who ruined his body with drugs. Too bad. Sometimes it's better to try smarter not harder.
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Yes he was, but he also was on crazy mofo who ruined his body with drugs. Too bad. Sometimes it's better to try smarter not harder.
How so? Recreational or overdoing the juice?
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And he was a genius! He dedicated his life to making the science of bodybuilding known all aspiring bodybuilders.
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How so? Recreational or overdoing the juice?
Advil.....
He died for you bitches.
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Those look like some mean curls hes doing there.
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I honestly think Joe Weider made an effort to get rid of Mentzer from his sport because he was afraid of him. I think Joe Weider was afraid of the intelligence Mentzer possessed. Who knows what Mike would have done as a Mr. Olympia? As a representative of the sport? Hmmmmmmm
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Those look like some mean curls hes doing there.
Awesome arms.
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How so? Recreational or overdoing the juice?
Overdoing the juice.
I heard some rumors though he was into recreational drugs as well, but i might mix it up with somebody else, so don't quote me on this. ;D
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Overdoing the juice.
I heard some rumors though he was into recreational drugs as well, but i might mix it up with somebody else, so don't quote me on this. ;D
You must be a newbie. Mike's problem was amphetamine, something he talked about very openly.
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You must be a newbie. Mike's problem was amphetamine, something he talked about very openly.
See, i knew there had been something.
Wasn't sure if it was him or his brother though.
both were on a hell of oral roids also.
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He should have beaten Frank Zane in '79 for the overall but IMO lost in '80. However he deserved better than 5th.
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One of the all-time best tri pics
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ooops :'(
Phoun, shouldn't your avatar read Mr. GetBig 2006* including the asterix.
All future getbiggers should no that your win was contested by many.
* = Fooled judges into thinking he was an amature by diguising himself with a girls' wig. He was actually a Pro. Although not in the official rules, many members, and contestants thought it was unsportsman like conduct and that he didn't deserve the win. Second place winner was True Adonis.
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How so? Recreational or overdoing the juice?
Recreational.
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I honestly think Joe Weider made an effort to get rid of Mentzer from his sport because he was afraid of him. I think Joe Weider was afraid of the intelligence Mentzer possessed. Who knows what Mike would have done as a Mr. Olympia? As a representative of the sport? Hmmmmmmm
Mike was a threat to the status quo. Then again I have read storie that besides Arnold, Mike was Joe Wieders favorite.
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He would have been 55 today...
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/ment1-1.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/ment2-1.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/ment3-1.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/ment4.jpg)
The guys of today don't have any of that rugged look. Guys back in Mentzers day actually looked like they could play football. Does Ronnie look like he could participate in any sport today?
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See, i knew there had been something.
Wasn't sure if it was him or his brother though.
both were on a hell of oral roids also.
Come on dude. admit it, you are talking out your ass.
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See, i knew there had been something.
Wasn't sure if it was him or his brother though.
both were on a hell of oral roids also.
I'm still looking for a reliable source as to what cause two supposedly healthy individuals to suddenly died. I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt.
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one of the greatest bodybuilder of all time...RIP MIKE
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Incredible arms overall. Look how thick his forearms were.
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And he was a genius!
No. He modified existing ideas developed by others. Good for him for publicizing something new to most but that doesn't require genius.
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One of the all-time best tri pics
Good but not great. Very obvious lack of detail in key areas of the upper body.
including chest & arms.
If he was unjustly denied, he was one amongst a group in that category, that eventually left the IFBB or retired. One of the top 5 or 6 BBs of the late 70s, not better than that.
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What's "WNBF"?
World Natural Bodybuilding Federation. Mostly an East Coast thing. They took the slack when the NABF closed. Oh the North American Bodybuilding Federation.
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not only mike got shafted but a bunch of others too,particularly eddie robinson,aaron baker,gary strydom....IFBB IS CRUEL!!!
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No. He modified existing ideas developed by others. Good for him for publicizing something new to most but that doesn't require genius.
That's not true. In his books he commonly refers to information from other sources and includes exactly from where those sources originated.
How many Mentzer books have you read?
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Mike's books are fun as hell to read. He had alot of cool techniques that he used that really are not talked about in BB circles anymore. He did something called triple stops where you would actually stop the weight 3 times on the negative portion of the movement to accentuate the negative more, lots of cool tips.
I thought he was robbed in 79, I don't know if he should have won in 80 or not, I think he represented what should have won. Big, ripped, awsome bodyparts. He was in better "shape" than arnold but they never, ever would have let arnold lose a show...
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That's not true. In his books he commonly refers to information from other sources and includes exactly from where those sources originated.
Missed the point-i didn't say he didn't attribute sources. I said he didn't come up with the ideas & in no way was a genius.
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Missed the point-i didn't say he didn't attribute sources. I said he didn't come up with the ideas & in no way was a genius.
Seriously. Read his books. I've never read any bodybuilding books that were so intellectually stimulating. Before reading Mentzer's books I literally read more than a dozen bodybuilding books including Arnold's new encyclopedia. And I thought I'd never learn anything new after finishing all those books but then came the Mentzer book. He's an extraordinary writer, philospher and motivator.
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aaahhhhhh. picture or name would help
I beg you fucking pardon!!!!!
good grief!
ta ta
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Phoun, shouldn't your avatar read Mr. GetBig 2006* including the asterix.
All future getbiggers should no that your win was contested by many.
* = Fooled judges into thinking he was an amature by diguising himself with a girls' wig. He was actually a Pro. Although not in the official rules, many members, and contestants thought it was unsportsman like conduct and that he didn't deserve the win. Second place winner was True Adonis.
Stop the bitching.
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Read his books. I've never read any bodybuilding books that were so intellectually stimulating. Before reading Mentzer's books I literally read more than a dozen bodybuilding books including Arnold's new encyclopedia. And I thought I'd never learn anything new after finishing all those books but then came the Mentzer book. He's an extraordinary writer, philospher and motivator.
I will. Wary of the constant preachiness of HIT types, including Mentzer. It compromises the content, but i'll try.
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he dreweth his powers from his legenday moustache. without it hed be nothing
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I will. Wary of the constant preachiness of HIT types, including Mentzer. It compromises the content, but i'll try.
I've only read High-Intensity Training the Mike Mentzer Way, but I plan to read other books of his.
His writing is superb in that he's able to teach his set of principles in a very clear and defined way. Anyone who reads his books will say that everything makes sense. You can hardly argue what he has written. He writes his books and constructs his training routines by use of logic and reason. He is a philosoper, a searcher of truth. And he would not incorporate imaginary principles into his own work.
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he dreweth his powers from his legenday moustache. without it hed be nothing
hahahahah ;D he actually mention the mustache in his book, saying it just suited his face very well.
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Anyone who reads his books will say that everything makes sense. You can hardly argue what he has written. He writes his books and constructs his training routines by use of logic and reason.
Probably, although the training philosophy i've read just a little of is right out of previous HIT ideas, i'll have to see.
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prefer his arms to arnolds
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Figgs, you really need to read The Wisdom of Mike Mentzer, you will love it.
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Figgs, you really need to read The Wisdom of Mike Mentzer, you will love it.
Thanks man I plan to read that next!
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Good but not great. Very obvious lack of detail in key areas of the upper body.
including chest & arms.
Pumpster, this sounds like a carbon copy of what you say about Lee Priest. I just don't see it.
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Pumpster, this sounds like a carbon copy of what you say about Lee Priest. I just don't see it.
Mentzer never had much detail overall on the front upper body, esp. chest & bis. Maybe the lack of volume and/or the drugs. Even Viator believed in using volume to refine prior to contests.
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I'm still looking for a reliable source as to what cause two supposedly healthy individuals to suddenly died. I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt.
They came from a family history of heart problems. Their dad died young. Ray had kidney problems. I am sure steroids don't help these things. Mike supposedly smoked cigarettes too.
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prefer his arms to arnolds
That's Blasphemy >:(
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That's Blasphemy >:(
Depends on perference. My arms are structurally similar to Mentzers so I prefer his.
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that is what I was thinking figgs. arnold's arms win hands down, c'mon.
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my arms are more like arnolds...
still prefer mikes...
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Mentzer never had much detail overall on the front upper body, esp. chest & bis. Maybe the lack of volume and/or the drugs. Even Viator believed in using volume to refine prior to contests.
shut up dumpster...mike would own your ass..he a trillion times better than your lame asss...mike had the most amazing physiue of all time..your just a mike hater and nothing else
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mentzer had some serious shreds- he could and did do some damage.
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MM was frickin' amazing - one of the very best. That's why he was inducted into the IFBB Hall Of Fame...
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Good but not great. Very obvious lack of detail in key areas of the upper body.
including chest & arms.
If he was unjustly denied, he was one amongst a group in that category, that eventually left the IFBB or retired. One of the top 5 or 6 BBs of the late 70s, not better than that.
lack of detail ;D
i think it's more like a lack of blackness where pumpster's concerned? he's a racist piece of shit.
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aaahhhhhh. picture or name would help
You must be about 18 ;D
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that is what I was thinking figgs. arnold's arms win hands down, c'mon.
Absolutely Arnold's arms, or Szkalak, who beat Mentzer. Mentzer was good but there wasn't a single area in which he had the best development.
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Oh no Pumpster, here we go again... ;)
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No, i'm just addressing the remarks above, include those of the racist.
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Your thoughts as to the physiquue he coulda developed after '80?
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Why, do you think he would've gotten better? Those of that era were pretty much all at their peaks but if there was room for improvement it would have applied to all of them. I didn't see that much change later amongst that group.
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Why, do you think he would've gotten better? Those of that era were pretty much all at their peaks but if there was room for improvement it would have applied to all of them. I didn't see that much change later amongst that group.
Why not? He was only 29 in '80, relatively young...
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He should have beaten Frank Zane in '79 for the overall but IMO lost in '80. However he deserved better than 5th.
Agreed. Callendar should have won that O. Still, Mentzer had a great influence on a lot of people and his most important subject was to NOT over train. I wouldn't have progressed as quickly as I did if not for some of his articles.
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Absolutely Arnold's arms, or Szkalak, who beat Mentzer. Mentzer was good but there wasn't a single area in which he had the best development.
Kal had no legs. That might have been the biggest fuck over Mentzer had.
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Depends on perference. My arms are structurally similar to Mentzers so I prefer his.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=107154.0;attach=119321;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=107154.0;attach=119322;image)
Wow Arnold's arms are definately better in this comparison!
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Mentzer thread:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=38432.0
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Quote from: pumpster on November 17, 2006, 08:06:19 AM
Absolutely Arnold's arms, or Szkalak, who beat Mentzer. Mentzer was good but there wasn't a single area in which he had the best development.
Kal had no legs. That might have been the biggest f**k over Mentzer had.
Nope; close only because of the legs; Szkalak blew him out on upper bod, which is my point. If Mentzer had had a great upper bod it wouldn't have been close.
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Nope; close only because of the legs; Szkalak blew him out on upper bod, which is my point. If Mentzer had had a great upper bod it wouldn't have been close.
LOL! Mentzer had one of the greatest upper bodies of all time! :)
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The only thing that Kal had better than Mike was his chest,everything else,mike wins.
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ironic how he talks about training shoulders heavy twice a week as its essential to have massive traps. His traps looked pretty piss poor IMO
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The only thing that Kal had better than Mike was his chest,everything else,mike wins.
Who's the Rich Simmons-like geek in the bottom pic in the background?
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LOL! Mentzer had one of the greatest upper bodies of all time!
Golden shower, your Mentzer ball-worship already led us through several pages elsewhere, spare us. Mentzer did *not* have "one of the greatest upper bodies of all time" as you say.
If he had, given his much better lower body, it wouldn't have been close in that contest. Obvious to most. I remember watching that show at the time. Quite clearly it was Szkalak's dominant upper body that won him the contest. The obvious seems beyond your grasp yet again my deluded one.hahahahahahahahahaha
Now have a nice day, your sillness bores me. ;D
The only thing that Kal had better than Mike was his chest,everything else,mike wins.
And he was much better than Schwarzenegger in '80. ::) Don't forget to throw in that distortion as well. hahahahahahahahahah
Threads on BBs getting shafted could be started on 5-6 guys from Mentzer's era. Mentzer was not better than any number of other guys he competed against.
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Golden shower, your Mentzer ball-worship already led us through several pages elsewhere, spare us. Mentzer did *not* have "one of the greatest upper bodies of all time" as you say.
If he had, given his much better lower body, it wouldn't have been close in that contest. Obvious to most. I remember watching that show at the time. Quite clearly it was Szkalak's dominant upper body that won him the contest. The obvious seems beyond your grasp yet again my deluded one.hahahahahahahahahaha
Now have a nice day, your sillness bores me. ;D
And he was much better than Schwarzenegger in '80. ::) Don't forget to throw in that distortion as well. hahahahahahahahahah
Threads on BBs getting shafted could be started on 5-6 guys from Mentzer's era. Mentzer was not better than any number of other guys he competed against.
Oh no, not again with Pumpy's nonsense. ;D You have already been owned on almost every issue that is boy...now get down & worship at my feet; stop fantasising about Mentzer and me like a little queer. Why get so angry at truth kid? It's okay to say you're a homo (maybe I won't lynch ya) instead of spouting drivel. Where are your balls little boy...or should I say little girl? ;) Maybe it's because you were castrated at birth by my dogs, those that fathered you... ;) As far as Szkalak's upper body is concerned, he was nothing contrasted to MM at his prime, as well as overall lower body mass. Funny you should say "The obvious seems beyond your grasp yet again my deluded one.hahahahahahahahahaha"....that's what I was saying to you right from the get go 'cos that's truth. Now go back to scubbing the shit outta my toilets with yer tongue.
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Golden shower, your Mentzer ball-worship already led us through several pages elsewhere, spare us. Mentzer did *not* have "one of the greatest upper bodies of all time" as you say.
If he had, given his much better lower body, it wouldn't have been close in that contest. Obvious to most. I remember watching that show at the time. Quite clearly it was Szkalak's dominant upper body that won him the contest. The obvious seems beyond your grasp yet again my deluded one.hahahahahahahahahaha
Now have a nice day, your sillness bores me. ;D
And he was much better than Schwarzenegger in '80. ::) Don't forget to throw in that distortion as well. hahahahahahahahahah
Threads on BBs getting shafted could be started on 5-6 guys from Mentzer's era. Mentzer was not better than any number of other guys he competed against.
HAHAHAHAHAHA, ok "Pumpster" (what a fag)...so Arnold was better than MM with no legs and a narrower frame ::) ...only one Arnie coulda beat was maybe "Christine" Zane...don't make me hammer home the obvious to you boy. Are you blind or just stupid? :'( ;D Forsomeone who cries so much about politics...you seem to as blind as a bat.
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Golden Shower with yet more long-winded blather leading nowhere fast. Basically has no viable explanations.haahahahaha hahaah
Watch as Golden Shower resurects the usual canned arguments over and over again about his hero, for each of his failures in contests. Laughable.
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ask pumpster to tell you what 'politics' he's talking about. you'll hear crickets. ;D
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Ask Beast for content. Crickets
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Golden shower, your Mentzer ball-worship already led us through several pages elsewhere, spare us. Mentzer did *not* have "one of the greatest upper bodies of all time" as you say.
If he had, given his much better lower body, it wouldn't have been close in that contest. Obvious to most. I remember watching that show at the time. Quite clearly it was Szkalak's dominant upper body that won him the contest. The obvious seems beyond your grasp yet again my deluded one.hahahahahahahahahaha
Now have a nice day, your sillness bores me. ;D
And he was much better than Schwarzenegger in '80. ::) Don't forget to throw in that distortion as well. hahahahahahahahahah
Threads on BBs getting shafted could be started on 5-6 guys from Mentzer's era. Mentzer was not better than any number of other guys he competed against.
Hehe, little Pumpy don't get mad 'cos you've been owned in every department. Facts, truth that you're my little bitch...come on boy, surely you've got better than that right? But then again this the walking abortion/inbreed that is Pumpster we're talking about here. ;D
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YOU'RE BORING MAN. Same futile Mentzer worship leading nowhere. He was good, anywhere from 5th to 7th best of his era. ;D And he was white, so you can relate. ;D
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Golden Shower with yet more long-winded blather leading nowhere fast. Basically has no viable explanations.haahahahaha hahaah
Watch as Golden Shower resurects the usual canned arguments over and over again about his hero, for each of his failures in contests. Laughable.
Who is Golden Shower? ??? ;D Stop speaking of yourself like that kid; it's pretty embarrassing to watch. For a little Internet geek, you're certainly dirty-minded. ;) People (scum a better term???) like Federline & Pumpy/Puppy are why maybe we should stop random castrations at birth... ;) As far as your hero is concerned, that would be me. And for goodness sakes, MM is already dead...stop talking trash about him in a futile attempt to get him from the dead and be your longlost gay lover. Only someone like that would continue to be so deliberately delusional. Either that or you're a retard. Now get off my nuts...the supermodels are trying to hop on. I hope you don't mind ya little queer.... ;D
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YOU'RE BORING MAN. Same futile Mentzer worship leading nowhere. He was good, anywhere from 5th to 7th best of his era. ;D And he was white, so you can relate. ;D
I can relate? LOL, you make me laugh boy...the last thing in the world I am is Caucasian, just like the last thing in the world you have is a set of balls. So maybe I should be calling you GIRL instead? ;) Ya pretty bitch? ;D As far as Mentzer worship, that's what you like to do boy. Admit it. You have a secret Mentzer crush but you feel so remorseful that you try to talk bullshit on the Net like a lil' geek to assuage yer guilt. It's ok kid, let it all out. Big Poppa's in da house... :) Certainly nothing wrong with speaking truth. Try again; you're becoming almost as funny as Aliamini, except that he at least has worked with athletes. They (and he) may be losers but not total zeros (though I may say that at times) like you. Mind you though, they are close but you've gotta take the cake my whiny little friend. :D
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Pumpster, you're now my little bitch...the latest I might add... ;) :D
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ask pumpster to tell you what 'politics' he's talking about. you'll hear crickets. ;D
Haha yes, this "Pumpster" is quite the little bitch, ain't he/she? ;)
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Golden Shower should feel free to cut & paste the same stale arguments about how Mentzer was unfairly denied at the Universe and the Olympia. Go to it..ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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He should have beaten Frank Zane in '79 for the overall but IMO lost in '80. However he deserved better than 5th.
agree sad his brother died right after him
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Pumpster getting owned badly again because he spouts diatribe all day long, he will continue to be owned while he chats away like he does because he comes up with such blatent Faggotry.
ta ta
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Sure he could have.... Just like me turning pro if I continued to train and eat right.... Moral of the story is WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED BACK THEN!!!!
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Wow Arnold's arms are definately better in this comparison!
Arnold is way closer to the camera. That helps him a lot in that comparison.
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Nope; close only because of the legs; Szkalak blew him out on upper bod, which is my point. If Mentzer had had a great upper bod it wouldn't have been close.
Mentzer was way ahead in the pre-judging. I disagree. Mike's upper body rivaled Szkalak's. Kal is one guy who I do think was over rated.
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ironic how he talks about training shoulders heavy twice a week as its essential to have massive traps. His traps looked pretty piss poor IMO
Smallish traps are the reason why he trained them heavy twice a week, in case you didn't understand.
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Moral of the story is WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED BACK THEN!!!!
hahahahahahahaahahahahhaah This guy gets it. ;D
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Golden Shower should feel free to cut & paste the same stale arguments about how Mentzer was unfairly denied at the Universe and the Olympia. Go to it..ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Haha, the only one cutting & pasting is you boy. Is that your one & only retort to your owning? C'mon kid, remember when you were furiously editing your responses? LOL! Those "stale" arguments are the ones that exposed you for the fool you are, so what are you then? Lower than shit? Aah yes... My little turd Pumpy, why do you persist in even breathing & wasting our air? Go jump off a cliff and we may give you a Peace Prize. ;)
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hahahahahahahaahahahahhaah This guy gets it. ;D
HAHAHAHAHAHA, that is like gh15 saying that pussy's bad....stop lying out of yer ass boy...if you didn't care, you wouldn't keep reacting like a stung lil' bitch. It's alright son, let the tears out... ;D
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HAHAHAHAHAHA, that is like gh15 saying that pussy's bad....stop lying out of yer ass boy...if you didn't care, you wouldn't keep reacting like a stung lil' bitch. It's alright son, let the tears out... ;D
Goldenshower the proven Mentzer groupie with a desperate need to resurect 3-week stale threads just to be beaten down reminded that Mentzer was only 4th or 5th best of the BBs of his era. haahahahahahaahahahahaha h
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Goldenshower the proven Mentzer groupie with a desperate need to resurect 3-week stale threads just to be beaten down reminded that Mentzer was only 4th or 5th best of the BBs of his era. haahahahahahaahahahahaha h
Hahahaha, my little bitch Pumpster trying to hop on my balls again with absolute drivel. :D C'mon boy, give it up. You have been absolutely & utterly destroyed, over and over again, that's why you abandon any pretense of debate and spew rubbish instead like an angry lil' pussy. Yeah, Mentzer groupie...that's YOU boy. Stop trying to cover up by talking trash...don't be a homo kid. As far as resurrecting stale threads go, we're all tired of your stink boy. Now please get back to getting the turd outta my toilets if you will...I've got some babes comin' over later today. ;)
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Goldenshower the proven Mentzer groupie with a desperate need to resurect 3-week stale threads just to be beaten down reminded that Mentzer was only 4th or 5th best of the BBs of his era. haahahahahahaahahahahaha h
LOL@only the 4th/5th best BBer....this coming from the little fag who laughs at those talking about past BBers, yet never was a BBer himself (and never will be one), and is the moron blabbing about the past eras all the time. Keep the chuckles coming ya little queer. Hahahahaha, this tiny "Pumpster" bitch loves nothing more than getting pumped in the ass, the little homo! ;D