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Title: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: bmacsys on November 15, 2006, 05:40:12 PM
He may have went down as an all time great if things hadn't been so freaking crooked in the IFBB in the late 70's, early 80's. Who knows. Maybe if things were fair he wouldn't have wigged out.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on November 15, 2006, 05:43:34 PM
He may have went down as an all time great if things hadn't been so freaking crooked in the IFBB in the late 70's, early 80's. Who knows. Maybe if things were fair he wouldn't have wigged out.

What the hell are you talking about??
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: rayrod on November 15, 2006, 05:48:41 PM
aaahhhhhh. picture or name would help
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: 240 is Back on November 15, 2006, 06:00:41 PM
whateva, don't you have to hide that from your federation?
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: whateva on November 15, 2006, 06:03:28 PM
whateva, don't you have to hide that from your federation?
ooops :'(
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on November 15, 2006, 06:04:43 PM
What's "WNBF"?
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: bmacsys on November 15, 2006, 06:05:19 PM
aaahhhhhh. picture or name would help



Oh shit! :o
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: Victor VonDoom on November 15, 2006, 06:45:51 PM
He may have went down as an all time great if things hadn't been so freaking crooked in the IFBB in the late 70's, early 80's. Who knows....

Doom knows.  You're wrong!  Bah!
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: Theoak* on November 15, 2006, 11:29:30 PM
aaahhhhhh. picture or name would help

Its mentzer before the 80 Mr olympia
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: whitewidow on November 15, 2006, 11:54:28 PM
Yes he did.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: siouxcountry on November 16, 2006, 12:19:45 AM
He would have been 55 today...

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/ment1-1.jpg)

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/ment2-1.jpg)

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/ment3-1.jpg)

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/ment4.jpg)
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: whitewidow on November 16, 2006, 12:22:27 AM
what guy this day and age has lines like this man ???
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 16, 2006, 01:10:15 AM
Agreed; Mike was one of the best.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: DK II on November 16, 2006, 01:58:49 AM
Agreed; Mike was one of the best.

Yes he was, but he also was on crazy mofo who ruined his body with drugs. Too bad. Sometimes it's better to try smarter not harder.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: Figo on November 16, 2006, 03:13:25 AM
Yes he was, but he also was on crazy mofo who ruined his body with drugs. Too bad. Sometimes it's better to try smarter not harder.

How so? Recreational or overdoing the juice?
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: figgs on November 16, 2006, 03:18:05 AM
And he was a genius! He dedicated his life to making the science of bodybuilding known all aspiring bodybuilders.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: gtbro1 on November 16, 2006, 03:19:31 AM
How so? Recreational or overdoing the juice?


Advil.....























  He died for you bitches.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: Figo on November 16, 2006, 03:20:25 AM
Those look like some mean curls hes doing there.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: figgs on November 16, 2006, 03:20:45 AM
I honestly think Joe Weider made an effort to get rid of Mentzer from his sport because he was afraid of him. I think Joe Weider was afraid of the intelligence Mentzer possessed. Who knows what Mike would have done as a Mr. Olympia? As a representative of the sport? Hmmmmmmm
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: figgs on November 16, 2006, 03:21:58 AM
Those look like some mean curls hes doing there.

Awesome arms.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: DK II on November 16, 2006, 04:19:04 AM
How so? Recreational or overdoing the juice?

Overdoing the juice.

I heard some rumors though he was into recreational drugs as well, but i might mix it up with somebody else, so don't quote me on this.  ;D
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 16, 2006, 04:21:49 AM
Overdoing the juice.

I heard some rumors though he was into recreational drugs as well, but i might mix it up with somebody else, so don't quote me on this.  ;D
You must be a newbie. Mike's problem was amphetamine, something he talked about very openly.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: DK II on November 16, 2006, 04:26:46 AM
You must be a newbie. Mike's problem was amphetamine, something he talked about very openly.

See, i knew there had been something.

Wasn't sure if it was him or his brother though.

both were on a hell of oral roids also.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: nukkaready on November 16, 2006, 04:39:02 AM
He should have beaten Frank Zane in '79 for the overall but IMO lost in '80. However he deserved better than 5th.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 16, 2006, 04:57:58 AM
One of the all-time best tri pics
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: nycbull on November 16, 2006, 05:08:47 AM
ooops :'(

Phoun, shouldn't your avatar read Mr. GetBig 2006* including the asterix.

All future getbiggers should no that your win was contested by many.

* = Fooled judges into thinking he was an amature by diguising himself with a girls' wig. He was actually a Pro. Although not in the official rules, many members, and contestants thought it was unsportsman like conduct and that he didn't deserve the win. Second place winner was True Adonis.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: bmacsys on November 16, 2006, 05:26:48 AM
How so? Recreational or overdoing the juice?

Recreational.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: bmacsys on November 16, 2006, 05:28:56 AM
I honestly think Joe Weider made an effort to get rid of Mentzer from his sport because he was afraid of him. I think Joe Weider was afraid of the intelligence Mentzer possessed. Who knows what Mike would have done as a Mr. Olympia? As a representative of the sport? Hmmmmmmm

Mike was a threat to the status quo. Then again I have read storie that besides Arnold, Mike was Joe Wieders favorite.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: bmacsys on November 16, 2006, 05:35:09 AM
He would have been 55 today...

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/ment1-1.jpg)

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/ment2-1.jpg)

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/ment3-1.jpg)

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/ment4.jpg)


The guys of today don't have any of that rugged look. Guys back in Mentzers day actually looked like they could play football. Does Ronnie look like he could participate in any sport today?
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: bmacsys on November 16, 2006, 05:36:20 AM
See, i knew there had been something.

Wasn't sure if it was him or his brother though.

both were on a hell of oral roids also.

Come on dude. admit it, you are talking out your ass.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: HUGEPECS on November 16, 2006, 08:06:57 AM
See, i knew there had been something.

Wasn't sure if it was him or his brother though.

both were on a hell of oral roids also.




I'm still looking for a reliable source as to what cause two supposedly healthy individuals to suddenly died. I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: the shadow on November 16, 2006, 08:09:49 AM
one of the greatest bodybuilder of all time...RIP MIKE
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: shootfighter1 on November 16, 2006, 08:24:17 AM
Incredible arms overall.  Look how thick his forearms were.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 16, 2006, 08:53:58 AM
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And he was a genius!

No. He modified existing ideas developed by others. Good for him for publicizing something new to most but that doesn't require genius.

Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 16, 2006, 08:54:48 AM
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One of the all-time best tri pics

Good but not great. Very obvious lack of detail in key areas of the upper body.
including chest & arms.

If he was unjustly denied, he was one amongst a group in that category, that eventually left the IFBB or retired. One of the top 5 or 6 BBs of the late 70s, not better than that.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: buffbodz on November 16, 2006, 09:50:21 AM
What's "WNBF"?

World Natural Bodybuilding Federation.  Mostly an East Coast thing.  They took the slack when the NABF closed.  Oh the North American Bodybuilding Federation.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: the shadow on November 16, 2006, 09:52:23 AM
not only mike got shafted but a bunch of others too,particularly eddie robinson,aaron baker,gary strydom....IFBB IS CRUEL!!!
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: figgs on November 16, 2006, 10:19:58 AM
No. He modified existing ideas developed by others. Good for him for publicizing something new to most but that doesn't require genius.



That's not true. In his books he commonly refers to information from other sources and includes exactly from where those sources originated.

How many Mentzer books have you read?
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: natural al on November 16, 2006, 10:24:32 AM
Mike's books are fun as hell to read.  He had alot of cool techniques that he used that really are not talked about in BB circles anymore.  He did something called triple stops where you would actually stop the weight 3 times on the negative portion of the movement to accentuate the negative more, lots of cool tips.

I thought he was robbed in 79, I don't know if he should have won in 80 or not, I think he represented what should have won.  Big, ripped, awsome bodyparts.  He was in better "shape" than arnold but they never, ever would have let arnold lose a show...
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 16, 2006, 10:28:01 AM
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That's not true. In his books he commonly refers to information from other sources and includes exactly from where those sources originated.

Missed the point-i didn't say he didn't attribute sources. I said he didn't come up with the ideas & in no way was a genius.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: figgs on November 16, 2006, 10:31:11 AM
Missed the point-i didn't say he didn't attribute sources. I said he didn't come up with the ideas & in no way was a genius.

Seriously. Read his books. I've never read any bodybuilding books that were so intellectually stimulating. Before reading Mentzer's books I literally read more than a dozen bodybuilding books including Arnold's new encyclopedia. And I thought I'd never learn anything new after finishing all those books but then came the Mentzer book. He's an extraordinary writer, philospher and motivator.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: Your MAAAAaaaa on November 16, 2006, 10:37:45 AM
aaahhhhhh. picture or name would help


I beg you fucking pardon!!!!!



good grief!


ta ta
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: D_1000 on November 16, 2006, 10:38:06 AM
Phoun, shouldn't your avatar read Mr. GetBig 2006* including the asterix.

All future getbiggers should no that your win was contested by many.

* = Fooled judges into thinking he was an amature by diguising himself with a girls' wig. He was actually a Pro. Although not in the official rules, many members, and contestants thought it was unsportsman like conduct and that he didn't deserve the win. Second place winner was True Adonis.

Stop the bitching.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 16, 2006, 10:43:47 AM
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Read his books. I've never read any bodybuilding books that were so intellectually stimulating. Before reading Mentzer's books I literally read more than a dozen bodybuilding books including Arnold's new encyclopedia. And I thought I'd never learn anything new after finishing all those books but then came the Mentzer book. He's an extraordinary writer, philospher and motivator.

I will. Wary of the constant preachiness of HIT types, including Mentzer. It compromises the content, but i'll try.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 16, 2006, 10:46:38 AM
he dreweth his powers from his legenday moustache. without it hed be nothing
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: figgs on November 16, 2006, 11:01:32 AM
I will. Wary of the constant preachiness of HIT types, including Mentzer. It compromises the content, but i'll try.

I've only read High-Intensity Training the Mike Mentzer Way, but I plan to read other books of his.

His writing is superb in that he's able to teach his set of principles in a very clear and defined way. Anyone who reads his books will say that everything makes sense. You can hardly argue what he has written. He writes his books and constructs his training routines by use of logic and reason. He is a philosoper, a searcher of truth. And he would not incorporate imaginary principles into his own work.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: figgs on November 16, 2006, 11:02:31 AM
he dreweth his powers from his legenday moustache. without it hed be nothing

hahahahah ;D he actually mention the mustache in his book, saying it just suited his face very well.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 16, 2006, 11:04:13 AM
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Anyone who reads his books will say that everything makes sense. You can hardly argue what he has written. He writes his books and constructs his training routines by use of logic and reason.

Probably, although the training philosophy i've read just a little of is right out of previous HIT ideas, i'll have to see.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 16, 2006, 11:18:23 AM
prefer his arms to arnolds
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: Belly on November 16, 2006, 11:47:14 AM
Figgs, you really need to read The Wisdom of Mike Mentzer, you will love it.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: figgs on November 16, 2006, 02:20:07 PM
Figgs, you really need to read The Wisdom of Mike Mentzer, you will love it.

Thanks man I plan to read that next!
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: bmacsys on November 16, 2006, 02:29:22 PM
Good but not great. Very obvious lack of detail in key areas of the upper body.
including chest & arms.




Pumpster, this sounds like a carbon copy of what you say about Lee Priest. I just don't see it.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 16, 2006, 02:32:53 PM
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Pumpster, this sounds like a carbon copy of what you say about Lee Priest. I just don't see it.
Mentzer never had much detail overall on the front upper body, esp. chest & bis. Maybe the lack of volume and/or the drugs. Even Viator believed in using volume to refine prior to contests.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: bmacsys on November 16, 2006, 02:35:19 PM



I'm still looking for a reliable source as to what cause two supposedly healthy individuals to suddenly died. I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt.

They came from a family history of heart problems. Their dad died young. Ray had kidney problems. I am sure steroids don't help these things. Mike supposedly smoked cigarettes too.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: MikeThaMachine on November 16, 2006, 02:38:22 PM
prefer his arms to arnolds

That's Blasphemy >:(
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: figgs on November 16, 2006, 02:49:02 PM
That's Blasphemy >:(

Depends on perference. My arms are structurally similar to Mentzers so I prefer his.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: jarhead on November 16, 2006, 02:50:34 PM
that  is what I was thinking figgs.  arnold's arms win hands down, c'mon.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 16, 2006, 10:17:45 PM
my arms are more like arnolds...
still prefer mikes...
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: the shadow on November 16, 2006, 10:23:12 PM
Mentzer never had much detail overall on the front upper body, esp. chest & bis. Maybe the lack of volume and/or the drugs. Even Viator believed in using volume to refine prior to contests.
shut up dumpster...mike would own your ass..he a trillion times better than your lame asss...mike had the most amazing physiue of all time..your just a mike hater and nothing else
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: whitewidow on November 16, 2006, 10:27:17 PM
mentzer had some serious shreds- he could and did do some damage.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 17, 2006, 04:38:55 AM
MM was frickin' amazing - one of the very best. That's why he was inducted into the IFBB Hall Of Fame...
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: BEAST 8692 on November 17, 2006, 04:57:49 AM
Good but not great. Very obvious lack of detail in key areas of the upper body.
including chest & arms.

If he was unjustly denied, he was one amongst a group in that category, that eventually left the IFBB or retired. One of the top 5 or 6 BBs of the late 70s, not better than that.

lack of detail ;D

i think it's more like a lack of blackness where pumpster's concerned? he's a racist piece of shit.

Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: Lord Humungous on November 17, 2006, 05:02:57 AM
aaahhhhhh. picture or name would help

You must be about 18   ;D
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 17, 2006, 05:06:19 AM
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that  is what I was thinking figgs.  arnold's arms win hands down, c'mon.
Absolutely Arnold's arms, or Szkalak, who beat Mentzer. Mentzer was good but there wasn't a single area in which he had the best development.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 17, 2006, 05:28:31 AM
Oh no Pumpster, here we go again... ;)
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 17, 2006, 05:31:13 AM
No, i'm just addressing the remarks above, include those of the racist.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 17, 2006, 05:34:40 AM
Your thoughts as to the physiquue he coulda developed after '80?
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 17, 2006, 05:36:24 AM
Why, do you think he would've gotten better? Those of that era were pretty much all at their peaks but if there was room for improvement it would have applied to all of them. I didn't see that much change later amongst that group.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 18, 2006, 06:31:44 AM
Why, do you think he would've gotten better? Those of that era were pretty much all at their peaks but if there was room for improvement it would have applied to all of them. I didn't see that much change later amongst that group.

Why not? He was only 29 in '80, relatively young...
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: Rome on November 18, 2006, 07:05:40 AM
He should have beaten Frank Zane in '79 for the overall but IMO lost in '80. However he deserved better than 5th.
Agreed. Callendar should have won that O. Still, Mentzer had a great influence on a lot of people and his most important subject was to NOT over train. I wouldn't have progressed as quickly as I did if not for some of his articles.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: bmacsys on November 18, 2006, 07:09:57 AM
Absolutely Arnold's arms, or Szkalak, who beat Mentzer. Mentzer was good but there wasn't a single area in which he had the best development.

Kal had no legs. That might have been the biggest fuck over Mentzer had.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: quadzilla456 on November 18, 2006, 08:29:56 AM
Depends on perference. My arms are structurally similar to Mentzers so I prefer his.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=107154.0;attach=119321;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=107154.0;attach=119322;image)

Wow Arnold's arms are definately better in this comparison!
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 18, 2006, 08:38:28 AM
Mentzer thread:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=38432.0
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 18, 2006, 08:39:38 AM
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Quote from: pumpster on November 17, 2006, 08:06:19 AM
Absolutely Arnold's arms, or Szkalak, who beat Mentzer. Mentzer was good but there wasn't a single area in which he had the best development.

Kal had no legs. That might have been the biggest f**k over Mentzer had.

Nope; close only because of the legs; Szkalak blew him out on upper bod, which is my point. If Mentzer had had a great upper bod it wouldn't have been close.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 19, 2006, 03:32:31 AM
Nope; close only because of the legs; Szkalak blew him out on upper bod, which is my point. If Mentzer had had a great upper bod it wouldn't have been close.

LOL! Mentzer had one of the greatest upper bodies of all time! :)
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: crownshep on November 19, 2006, 04:32:24 AM
The only thing that Kal had better than Mike was his chest,everything else,mike wins.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: Scimowser on November 19, 2006, 04:45:24 AM
ironic how he talks about training shoulders heavy twice a week as its essential to have massive traps. His traps looked pretty piss poor IMO
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 19, 2006, 05:10:25 AM
The only thing that Kal had better than Mike was his chest,everything else,mike wins.

Who's the Rich Simmons-like geek in the bottom pic in the background?
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 19, 2006, 05:12:06 AM
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LOL! Mentzer had one of the greatest upper bodies of all time!
Golden shower, your Mentzer ball-worship already led us through several pages elsewhere, spare us. Mentzer did *not* have "one of the greatest upper bodies of all time" as you say.

If he had, given his much better lower body, it wouldn't have been close in that contest. Obvious to most. I remember watching that show at the time. Quite clearly it was Szkalak's dominant upper body that won him the contest. The obvious seems beyond your grasp yet again my deluded one.hahahahahahahahahaha

Now have a nice day, your sillness bores me. ;D

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The only thing that Kal had better than Mike was his chest,everything else,mike wins.
And he was much better than Schwarzenegger in '80.  ::) Don't forget to throw in that distortion as well. hahahahahahahahahah



Threads on BBs getting shafted could be started on 5-6 guys from Mentzer's era. Mentzer was not better than any number of other guys he competed against.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 19, 2006, 05:50:09 AM
Golden shower, your Mentzer ball-worship already led us through several pages elsewhere, spare us. Mentzer did *not* have "one of the greatest upper bodies of all time" as you say.

If he had, given his much better lower body, it wouldn't have been close in that contest. Obvious to most. I remember watching that show at the time. Quite clearly it was Szkalak's dominant upper body that won him the contest. The obvious seems beyond your grasp yet again my deluded one.hahahahahahahahahaha

Now have a nice day, your sillness bores me. ;D
And he was much better than Schwarzenegger in '80.  ::) Don't forget to throw in that distortion as well. hahahahahahahahahah



Threads on BBs getting shafted could be started on 5-6 guys from Mentzer's era. Mentzer was not better than any number of other guys he competed against.


Oh no, not again with Pumpy's nonsense.  ;D You have already been owned on almost every issue that is boy...now get down & worship at my feet; stop fantasising about Mentzer and me like a little queer. Why get so angry at truth kid? It's okay to say you're a homo (maybe I won't lynch ya) instead of spouting drivel. Where are your balls little boy...or should I say little girl? ;) Maybe it's because you were castrated at birth by my dogs, those that fathered you... ;) As far as Szkalak's upper body is concerned, he was nothing contrasted to MM at his prime, as well as overall lower body mass. Funny you should say "The obvious seems beyond your grasp yet again my deluded one.hahahahahahahahahaha"....that's what I was saying to you right from the get go 'cos that's truth. Now go back to scubbing the shit outta my toilets with yer tongue.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 19, 2006, 05:53:12 AM
Golden shower, your Mentzer ball-worship already led us through several pages elsewhere, spare us. Mentzer did *not* have "one of the greatest upper bodies of all time" as you say.

If he had, given his much better lower body, it wouldn't have been close in that contest. Obvious to most. I remember watching that show at the time. Quite clearly it was Szkalak's dominant upper body that won him the contest. The obvious seems beyond your grasp yet again my deluded one.hahahahahahahahahaha

Now have a nice day, your sillness bores me. ;D
And he was much better than Schwarzenegger in '80.  ::) Don't forget to throw in that distortion as well. hahahahahahahahahah



Threads on BBs getting shafted could be started on 5-6 guys from Mentzer's era. Mentzer was not better than any number of other guys he competed against.


HAHAHAHAHAHA, ok "Pumpster" (what a fag)...so Arnold was better than MM with no legs and a narrower frame  ::) ...only one Arnie coulda beat was maybe "Christine" Zane...don't make me hammer home the obvious to you boy. Are you blind or just stupid? :'( ;D Forsomeone who cries so much about politics...you seem to as blind as a bat.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 19, 2006, 05:54:39 AM
Golden Shower with yet more long-winded blather leading nowhere fast. Basically has no viable explanations.haahahahaha hahaah

Watch as Golden Shower resurects the usual canned arguments over and over again about his hero, for each of his failures in contests. Laughable.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: BEAST 8692 on November 19, 2006, 05:56:11 AM
ask pumpster to tell you what 'politics' he's talking about. you'll hear crickets. ;D
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 19, 2006, 05:56:45 AM
Ask Beast for content. Crickets
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 19, 2006, 05:56:55 AM
Golden shower, your Mentzer ball-worship already led us through several pages elsewhere, spare us. Mentzer did *not* have "one of the greatest upper bodies of all time" as you say.

If he had, given his much better lower body, it wouldn't have been close in that contest. Obvious to most. I remember watching that show at the time. Quite clearly it was Szkalak's dominant upper body that won him the contest. The obvious seems beyond your grasp yet again my deluded one.hahahahahahahahahaha

Now have a nice day, your sillness bores me. ;D
And he was much better than Schwarzenegger in '80.  ::) Don't forget to throw in that distortion as well. hahahahahahahahahah





Threads on BBs getting shafted could be started on 5-6 guys from Mentzer's era. Mentzer was not better than any number of other guys he competed against.


Hehe, little Pumpy don't get mad 'cos you've been owned in every department. Facts, truth that you're my little bitch...come on boy, surely you've got better than that right? But then again this the walking abortion/inbreed that is Pumpster we're talking about here. ;D
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 19, 2006, 05:58:56 AM
YOU'RE BORING MAN. Same futile Mentzer worship leading nowhere. He was good, anywhere from 5th to 7th best of his era. ;D And he was white, so you can relate. ;D
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 19, 2006, 06:04:44 AM
Golden Shower with yet more long-winded blather leading nowhere fast. Basically has no viable explanations.haahahahaha hahaah

Watch as Golden Shower resurects the usual canned arguments over and over again about his hero, for each of his failures in contests. Laughable.

Who is Golden Shower? ??? ;D Stop speaking of yourself like that kid; it's pretty embarrassing to watch. For a little Internet geek, you're certainly dirty-minded. ;) People (scum a better term???) like Federline & Pumpy/Puppy are why maybe we should stop random castrations at birth... ;) As far as your hero is concerned, that would be me. And for goodness sakes, MM is already dead...stop talking trash about him in a futile attempt to get him from the dead and be your longlost gay lover. Only someone like that would continue to be so deliberately delusional. Either that or you're a retard. Now get off my nuts...the supermodels are trying to hop on. I hope you don't mind ya little queer.... ;D
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 19, 2006, 06:09:30 AM
YOU'RE BORING MAN. Same futile Mentzer worship leading nowhere. He was good, anywhere from 5th to 7th best of his era. ;D And he was white, so you can relate. ;D

I can relate? LOL, you make me laugh boy...the last thing in the world I am is Caucasian, just like the last thing in the world you have is a set of balls. So maybe I should be calling you GIRL instead? ;) Ya pretty bitch? ;D As far as Mentzer worship, that's what you like to do boy. Admit it. You have a secret Mentzer crush but you feel so remorseful that you try to talk bullshit on the Net like a lil' geek to assuage yer guilt. It's ok kid, let it all out. Big Poppa's in da house... :) Certainly nothing wrong with speaking truth. Try again; you're becoming almost as funny as Aliamini, except that he at least has worked with athletes. They (and he) may be losers but not total zeros (though I may say that at times) like you. Mind you though, they are close but you've gotta take the cake my whiny little friend. :D
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 19, 2006, 06:11:40 AM
Pumpster, you're now my little bitch...the latest I might add... ;) :D
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 19, 2006, 06:18:33 AM
ask pumpster to tell you what 'politics' he's talking about. you'll hear crickets. ;D

Haha yes, this "Pumpster" is quite the little bitch, ain't he/she? ;)
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 19, 2006, 07:26:30 AM
Golden Shower should feel free to cut & paste the same stale arguments about how Mentzer was unfairly denied at the Universe and the Olympia. Go to it..ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: SLOWKPLUS on November 19, 2006, 07:33:07 AM
He should have beaten Frank Zane in '79 for the overall but IMO lost in '80. However he deserved better than 5th.
agree sad his brother died right after him
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: Your MAAAAaaaa on November 19, 2006, 07:55:46 AM
Pumpster getting owned badly again because he spouts diatribe all day long, he will continue to be owned while he chats away like he does because he comes up with such blatent Faggotry.


ta ta
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: jesusbod on November 19, 2006, 09:19:08 AM
Sure he could have.... Just like me turning pro if I continued to train and eat right.... Moral of the story is WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED BACK THEN!!!!
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: bmacsys on November 19, 2006, 09:43:04 AM
Wow Arnold's arms are definately better in this comparison!

Arnold is way closer to the camera. That helps him a lot in that comparison.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: bmacsys on November 19, 2006, 09:44:48 AM
Nope; close only because of the legs; Szkalak blew him out on upper bod, which is my point. If Mentzer had had a great upper bod it wouldn't have been close.

Mentzer was way ahead in the pre-judging. I disagree. Mike's upper body rivaled Szkalak's. Kal is one guy who I do think was over rated.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: figgs on November 19, 2006, 09:57:15 AM
ironic how he talks about training shoulders heavy twice a week as its essential to have massive traps. His traps looked pretty piss poor IMO

Smallish traps are the reason why he trained them heavy twice a week, in case you didn't understand.
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 19, 2006, 10:01:41 AM
Quote
Moral of the story is WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED BACK THEN!!!!
hahahahahahahaahahahahhaah This guy gets it. ;D
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 27, 2006, 08:26:10 AM
Golden Shower should feel free to cut & paste the same stale arguments about how Mentzer was unfairly denied at the Universe and the Olympia. Go to it..ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Haha, the only one cutting & pasting is you boy. Is that your one & only retort to your owning? C'mon kid, remember when you were furiously editing your responses? LOL! Those "stale" arguments are the ones that exposed you for the fool you are, so what are you then? Lower than shit? Aah yes... My little turd Pumpy, why do you persist in even breathing & wasting our air? Go jump off a cliff and we may give you a Peace Prize. ;)
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 27, 2006, 08:27:54 AM
hahahahahahahaahahahahhaah This guy gets it. ;D

HAHAHAHAHAHA, that is like gh15 saying that pussy's bad....stop lying out of yer ass boy...if you didn't care, you wouldn't keep reacting like a stung lil' bitch. It's alright son, let the tears out... ;D
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: pumpster on November 27, 2006, 09:08:44 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHA, that is like gh15 saying that pussy's bad....stop lying out of yer ass boy...if you didn't care, you wouldn't keep reacting like a stung lil' bitch. It's alright son, let the tears out... ;D

Goldenshower the proven Mentzer groupie with a desperate need to resurect 3-week stale threads just to be beaten down reminded that Mentzer was only 4th or 5th best of the BBs of his era. haahahahahahaahahahahaha h
Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 28, 2006, 08:20:52 AM
Goldenshower the proven Mentzer groupie with a desperate need to resurect 3-week stale threads just to be beaten down reminded that Mentzer was only 4th or 5th best of the BBs of his era. haahahahahahaahahahahaha h

Hahahaha, my little bitch Pumpster trying to hop on my balls again with absolute drivel.  :D C'mon boy, give it up. You have been absolutely & utterly destroyed, over and over again, that's why you abandon any pretense of debate and spew rubbish instead like an angry lil' pussy. Yeah, Mentzer groupie...that's YOU boy. Stop trying to cover up by talking trash...don't be a homo kid. As far as resurrecting stale threads go, we're all tired of your stink boy. Now please get back to getting the turd outta my toilets if you will...I've got some babes comin' over later today. ;)

Title: Re: This man got shafted as a professional bodybuilder
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on November 28, 2006, 08:22:00 AM
Goldenshower the proven Mentzer groupie with a desperate need to resurect 3-week stale threads just to be beaten down reminded that Mentzer was only 4th or 5th best of the BBs of his era. haahahahahahaahahahahaha h

LOL@only the 4th/5th best BBer....this coming from the little fag who laughs at those talking about past BBers, yet never was a BBer himself (and never will be one), and is the moron blabbing about the past eras all the time. Keep the chuckles coming ya little queer. Hahahahaha, this tiny "Pumpster" bitch loves nothing more than getting pumped in the ass, the little homo! ;D