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i don't know what to think of this one, what do you guys think?
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Bad form, looks legit though.
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Is this not the same guy??
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Looks pretty strong though
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He lifted the weight like a powerlifter and looks like one too. Looks like he's asking for an injury or no muscle stimulation... or both.
Stupid way of holding the weight too.
Jesus christ, all these dickheads making a big deal of front squatting light weights.
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He lifted the weight like a powerlifter and looks like one too. Looks like he's asking for an injury or no muscle stimulation... or both.
Stupid way of holding the weight too.
Jesus christ, all these dickheads making a big deal of front squatting light weights.
you must front squat 750 to think that 530 is light, you must be a beast. ::)
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dude has an epic beach ball stomach? who cares if he does 530 all stomach
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Bad form, looks legit though.
These 160 pound benchers always points out how the "form is bad".
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i don't know what to think of this one, what do you guys think?
Strong guy. Wouldn't say he was averaged sized, he looks pretty solid.
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you must front squat 750 to think that 530 is light, you must be a beast. ::)
Just dont see the point of posting 3 reps of 225 on youtube. And thats what I was referring to when I said light. Also, this guy is a powerlifter, and there is a powerlifing board.. maybe this thread belongs there.
Now go back to posting threads like "???? ????? benches 510lbs for 6 reps". Thats all you seem to do.
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Just dont see the point of posting 3 reps of 225 on youtube. And thats what I was referring to when I said light. Also, this guy is a powerlifter, and there is a powerlifing board.. maybe this thread belongs there.
Now go back to posting threads like "???? ????? benches 510lbs for 6 reps". Thats all you seem to do.
ok, just as soon as i got done fuccking your sister, "farkenell".
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the guy look pretty solid, pretty heavy too....... funny how people bash other, i'll bet they can't do it them self.
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ok, just as soon as i got done fuccking your sister, "farkenell".
"i got done" - Fantastic grammer
Also, I dont have a sister... however you can add her to group of imaginery friends.
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I think it was fake plates - to be fair it was a heavy weight but I don't think it was as much as 240kgs.
Look at the way he replaces the weight at the end of the rep - puts it back far to easily.
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heres an avarage looking 76 kg guy front squatting 210kg
if you want to see some more impressive vids look for "ironmind (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ironmind)" on youtube.
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another impressive vid here, 295kg ass to grass back squat with no belt and no knee wraps
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Stupid way of holding the weight too.
it's called a clean grip, dumbass.
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That was pretty good. Not an average sized guy though.
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it's called a clean grip, dumbass.
Farkenell just continues to prove how much of a fucking retard he is with every post.
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Farkenell just continues to prove how much of a fucking retard he is with every post.
Who cares? "Farkenell" is a depressed gamer nerd from Australia.
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Who cares? "Farkenell" is a depressed gamer nerd from Australia.
That's true. I heard he can cook up a mean dingo burger, though.
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it's called a clean grip, dumbass.
3 point on that grip.
- Its dangerous, Ive been told by world champion powerlifters that many guys injure themselves with such grip.
- Larger guys have problems using that grip cause of their size
- Arms crossed in front of you (Like Ron in the unbelievable) is much superior
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The fellow is a Olympic lifter, most use that grip when front squatting. Being able to transition into that type of grip is an integral part of any o-lifters training.
That grip is perfectly fine, you just have to gain flexiblity.
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3 point on that grip.
- Its dangerous, Ive been told by world champion powerlifters that many guys injure themselves with such grip.
- Larger guys have problems using that grip cause of their size
- Arms crossed in front of you (Like Ron in the unbelievable) is much superior
- no, it's what olympic lifters use
- no they don't, like shane hamman or hossein rezazadeh
- no it's not
(http://rezazadeh.hit.bg/finalday_09.JPG)
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Was that music Disturbed? I think it was.
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Was that music Disturbed? I think it was.
yes
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3 point on that grip.
- Its dangerous, Ive been told by world champion powerlifters that many guys injure themselves with such grip.
- Larger guys have problems using that grip cause of their size
- Arms crossed in front of you (Like Ron in the unbelievable) is much superior
hey, I'll be nice.
1 point: He is not a FUCKING POWERLIFTER.
;)
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3 point on that grip.
- Its dangerous, Ive been told by world champion powerlifters that many guys injure themselves with such grip.
- Larger guys have problems using that grip cause of their size
- Arms crossed in front of you (Like Ron in the unbelievable) is much superior
You sir, obviously know nothing about olympic lifting. You keep calling this guy a powerlifter when he is obviously an olympic lifter. Also, comparing front squats the way Ronnie does them to the way an oly lifter does them is like comparing Tiger Woods' golf swing to Barry bonds' baseball swing.
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the guy look pretty solid, pretty heavy too....... funny how people bash other, i'll bet they can't do it them self.
I would say 99% of the time the guys who bash can't come close to the person they are bashing. It is there way of feeling better. Just gotta go with the flow here
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Actually yeah, I dont know much about olympic lifting, However, a world record holding powerlifter thats been lifting for 50 years said that grip was at times used by powerlifters but he had seen many sustain injuries using it and said that Ronnies style was better.
I wasnt referring to bbuilding and powerlifting.
Mixed opinons, get over it.
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Bad form, looks legit though.
STFU...Dude is strong as shit
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I guess to truly understand, and appreciate, the front squat you have to have an Olympic weightlifting background.
Of course, competitive Olympic weightlifters aren't "juiced-to-the-gills" like BBers, since they are RIGOROUSLY, and randomly, drug tested several times a year by the most sophisticated drug-screening system/methods on the planet (i.e. the IWF and/or USAW).
Even though Olympic weightlifters do not have near the muscle mass of bodybuilders (after all they compete in approximately 9-10 different weight classes.), they are usually much stronger in CORE body strength than bodybuilders (comparable in core strength to powerlifters).
Additionally, they are not allowed to compete with all of the considerable added support gear worn by powerlifters...i.e. only a 4-in. wide lifting belt and maybe knee and elbow bands allowed.
Performing a FULL front squat wearing ONLY a 4-in. wide lifting belt with over 500 lbs. (and maybe some added knee bands) is a tremendous feat of lower back and thigh strength...a truly terrific test of core strength if you omit the lifting belt!! And, in Olympic weightlifting, you have top lifters weighing a mere 150 lbs. who can accomplish this tremendous feat of strength! This same 500 lb.+ front squat would "bury" many a 250 lb.+ "strong" BBer !
Another thing, whoever came up with that asinine way of folding the arms in front of the chest when performing a front squat?!! Rather, you should support the weight at the front of your sternum, as in the finish of the clean position, with the elbows held as high as possible.
This way if you can't rise (and you are outside of a power rack) you can just EASILY dump the weight forward (try doing this "bail out" with your arms folded in front of your chest?!!). You just need to develop the necessary flexibility in the elbows and wrists to support the bar in front of the sternum, properly, in the finish of the clean position.
To gauge your core body strength, a powerlifter will often ask you, "how much can you deadlift"?...and an Olympic weightlifter, in turn, ask you, "how much you can FULL front squat with"?
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I guess to truly understand, and appreciate, the front squat you have to have an Olympic weightlifting background.
Of course, competitive Olympic weightlifters aren't "juiced-to-the-gills" like BBers, since they are RIGOROUSLY, and randomly, drug tested several times a year by the most sophisticated drug-screening system/methods on the planet (i.e. the IWF and/or USAW).
Even though Olympic weightlifters do not have near the muscle mass of bodybuilders (after all they compete in approximately 9-10 different weight classes.), they are usually much stronger in CORE body strength than bodybuilders (comparable in core strength to powerlifters).
Additionally, they are not allowed to compete with all of the considerable added support gear worn by powerlifters...i.e. only a 4-in. wide lifting belt and maybe knee and elbow bands allowed.
Performing a FULL front squat wearing ONLY a 4-in. wide lifting belt with over 500 lbs. (and maybe some added knee bands) is a tremendous feat of lower back and thigh strength...a truly terrific test of core strength if you omit the lifting belt!! And, in Olympic weightlifting, you have top lifters weighing a mere 150 lbs. who can accomplish this tremendous feat of strength! This same 500 lb.+ front squat would "bury" many a 250 lb.+ "strong" BBer !
Another thing, whoever came up with that asinine way of folding the arms in front of the chest when performing a front squat?!! Rather, you should support the weight at the front of your sternum, as in the finish of the clean position, with the elbows held as high as possible.
This way if you can't rise (and you are outside of a power rack) you can just EASILY dump the weight forward (trying doing this "bail out" with your arms folded in front of your chest?!!). You just need to develop the necessary flexibility in the elbows and wrists to support the bar in front of the sternum, properly, in the finish of the clean position.
To gauge your core body strength, a powerlifter will often ask you, "how much can you deadlift"?...and an Olympic weightlifter, in turn, ask you, "how much you can FULL front squat with"?
what would be so hard about dumping the weight if your arms were crossed? Ronnie did it in his second video with 585 and he just dropped it, i don't understand how it would be any easier with the clean grip.
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i don't know what to think of this one, what do you guys think?
Dude 530 is not a lot at all. When i was in college our dbs and qbs would squat 535. Im not impressed. well i guess he did it front style so thats cool. i have never tried it like that
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what would be so hard about dumping the weight if your arms were crossed? Ronnie did it in his second video with 585 and he just dropped it, i don't understand how it would be any easier with the clean grip.
Because I've personally observed injuries to trainees dropping the loaded bar on their thighs/knees when trying to dump it forward from the "folded arms" position...one fella, I observed, couldn't get rid of the bar AT ALL and "sat down" on the floor with the loaded bar still fixed in front of his sternum (OUCH!), injuring his lower back in the process!
On the other hand, I, personally, have SAFELY "dumped" hundreds of missed squat cleans, and front squats, over about a 10-year period...and have observed hundreds of similar misses from the "finish clean position" of holding the loaded bar w/o a similar mishap. This way you just end up sitting on the floor and the loaded bar ends up safely being "dumped" over your elbows/forearms to the floor in front of you...while clearing both your thighs and knees, and simulaneously protecting your spine from injury!l
Oh well, "pay your money and take your choice"!
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Dude 530 is not a lot at all. When i was in college our dbs and qbs would squat 535. Im not impressed. well i guess he did it front style so thats cool. i have never tried it like that
Duhhh...uhhh...""Dude", there is a BIG difference!! Try doing a FULL front squat with 535 lbs. w/o a lifting belt and no knee wraps!!!
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Duhhh...uhhh...""Dude", there is a BIG difference!! Try doing a FULL front squat with 535 lbs. w/o a lifting belt and no knee wraps!!!
I positive i could do it. like 100% positive. With a bumb knee. And im not like ronnie by ay strecth of the word.
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I positive i could do it. like 100% positive. With a bumb knee. And im not like ronnie by ay strecth of the word.
Not hating, but if you've never tried front squats before then you certainly won't be doing 530 first off.
People generally squat alot more than they front squat. If your guys were back squatting 530, and had never tried front squatting, there's no way they could do this.
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Not hating, but if you've never tried front squats before then you certainly won't be doing 530 first off.
People generally squat alot more than they front squat. If your guys were back squatting 530, and had never tried front squatting, there's no way they could do this.
Oh i feel you. I damn sure wont start like that. But if i can get 6 leg workouts i think i could do it. 2 max days ago i did 550 for 2 full reps. I think once i get balance and technique i can do 535.
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if that was a legit 530, then that's impressive-- was he wearing shower shoes?
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Actually yeah, I dont know much about olympic lifting, However, a world record holding powerlifter thats been lifting for 50 years said that grip was at times used by powerlifters but he had seen many sustain injuries using it and said that Ronnies style was better.
I wasnt referring to bbuilding and powerlifting.
Mixed opinons, get over it.
really, who? and how do you know him? first you said you were told by "world champion powerlifters", and now just one that's been lifting for 50 years? again, who? more than that, ronnie's style consists of knee wraps which defeat the purpose and not going down the whole way. so that's not right at all.
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dude has an epic beach ball stomach? who cares if he does 530 all stomach
STFU. Just STFU.
You got a great physique, but you're displaying epic levels of retardness.
Here's a suggestion: Look at Alexeiev and Rezazadeh. Neither had six packs. Arguably the two best weightlifters ever.
-Hedge
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STFU. Just STFU.
You got a great physique, but you're displaying epic levels of retardness.
Here's a suggestion: Look at Alexeiev and Rezazadeh. Neither had six packs. Arguably the two best weightlifters ever.
-Hedge
big deal. Daddywaddy gets more vaginal penetration than those two can dream of.
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big deal. Daddywaddy gets more vaginal penetration than those two can dream of.
first off, i get the distinct impression that isn't dw's bag. secondly, i heavily doubt that's why hossein and alexeyev trained to be the best in the world.
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big deal. Daddywaddy gets more vaginal penetration than those two can dream of.
I fail to see how looks and provess with women could be even an issue in a discussion on strength.
Care to elaborate?
-Hedge
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I fail to see how looks and provess with women could be even an issue in a discussion on strength.
Care to elaborate?
-Hedge
humor. answer my question in the alexxx tribute to me thread if you would.
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i don't know what to think of this one, what do you guys think?
Looked high to me. Front squats are a humbling exercise.
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there is a guy at my gym who is bigger than average but by no means a mass monster and he squats the same for decent reps.
he is an absolute freak and deadlifts fuck loads too but watching him squat that much is amazing except for the time he failed once and I was nearby! never again!!
ta ta
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really, who? and how do you know him? first you said you were told by "world champion powerlifters", and now just one that's been lifting for 50 years? again, who? more than that, ronnie's style consists of knee wraps which defeat the purpose and not going down the whole way. so that's not right at all.
First and now?! Happens to be the same person fuckface, think of that??
Yes really, Henning holds 9 world records 13 national records, and Im mistaken he's been lifting for 20 years, and he's nearing 60.
And I was referring to how Ronnie held the bar, and only that.
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i don't know what to think of this one, what do you guys think?
ARE THOSE BUMPER PLATES??? SOMEHOW THE PLATES DON'T SEEM REAL. THEY ARE VERY WIDE WHICH IS UNUSAL FOR "REAL PLATES" ALSO AT THE END OF THE SINGLE REP, THE BAR AND PLATES VIBRATESS WEIRDLY WHEN HE RACKS THE WEIGHT AS THOUGH THE WEIGHT IS LIGHT OR IS BUMPER PLATES.
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"i got done" - Fantastic grammer
Also, I dont have a sister... however you can add her to group of imaginery friends.
Nuttin worse than a fuggin grammar queen, but what more can you expect from ole " 'i' before 'e', I only squat to pee" Farkenell?
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First and now?! Happens to be the same person fuckface, think of that??
Yes really, Henning holds 9 world records 13 national records, and Im mistaken he's been lifting for 20 years, and he's nearing 60.
And I was referring to how Ronnie held the bar, and only that.
the first time you said "world champion powerlifters" in the plural. as in more than one. then you said one who had been lifting for 50 years. now you say it's a guy who's been lifting for 20. you're changing your story like crazy, and at this point talking with you is tiresome because you don't have a goddamn clue what you're talking about.
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Clarification on earlier post comments:
The following remarks only apply if you are training alone (i.e. w/o spotters).
If you are front squatting inside a power rack (a.k.a. "squat cage"), then by placing the pins/rods just below your bottom position in the front squat will make it easy to merely drop/set the loaded bar on these low pins if you can't rise out of the "hole" on your last rep(s). Under these conditions crossing/folding ones' arms over the chest to support the loaded bar in front of the sternum is O.K./safe.
There are some powerlifters/BBers whose arms/forearms are so thick that it is most uncomfortable/near-impossible to flex their arms/wrists sufficently to fix the bar at their shoulders for front squats with their arms held in the "finish clean position". In that case, it is highly recommended to do front squats inside the power rack using the low position pins as described above, or use spotters, for safety.
However, if you are front squatting unassisted outside a power rack and are taking the bar from the squat stands, then holding the bar in the front of the sternum in the "finish clean position" (while trying to hold the elbows as high as possible throughout the lift) is the best/safest way to aid in safely "dumping" the bar forward, if you can't rise out of the hole.