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Title: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 28, 2007, 09:34:30 AM
He's at my gym alot and claims a 20 1/4" arm cold.......he never shrinks down so if he's using..........he's gonna shit his liver out right???
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Bflex on April 28, 2007, 09:35:37 AM
sick tri's
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: No Patience on April 28, 2007, 09:37:10 AM
He's at my gym alot and claims a 20 1/4" arm cold.......he never shrinks down so if he's using..........he's gonna shit his liver out right???


ha ha....he looks like mel gibson after a lot of ice cream and some gear....hard to say if he is juicing...how tall is he?
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: tleilaxutank on April 28, 2007, 09:38:49 AM
If he got under 10% bf his arm would be no bigger than 18"...not hatin' just sayin' he's an old silverback...he's had plenty of time to put that mass on naturally...but who knows...
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Mars on April 28, 2007, 09:39:47 AM
synthol.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 28, 2007, 09:41:01 AM

ha ha....he looks like mel gibson after a lot of ice cream and some gear....hard to say if he is juicing...how tall is he?


Hes 5'10"  was 250lbs......now cutting at 237Lbs.   He looks like a druggie but swears lifetime natty.....      He says he used to lift with tongan football team and the weights they use made him grow like hell when he was younger.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Bflex on April 28, 2007, 09:42:05 AM
also epic trucker arm (tan line)
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Stark on April 28, 2007, 09:43:41 AM
fuck sick arms... he should diet down and see how big they are than.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on April 28, 2007, 09:43:54 AM
That guy takes whole foods and Coors light
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 28, 2007, 09:48:17 AM
fuck sick arms... he should diet down and see how big they are than.


He's doing an hour of cardio every morning, for the past month...he says he's still got 20 lbs of fat to lose tho....down 13lbs so far.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Stark on April 28, 2007, 09:49:25 AM

He's doing an hour of cardio every morning, for the past month...he says he's still got 20 lbs of fat to lose tho....down 13lbs so far.

Post some more pics if he's ready
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: alexxx on April 28, 2007, 09:49:31 AM
That's Gustavo Baddel!  :o

(http://www.gustavobadell.com/images/2005mrolympianew/IMG_8243.jpg)
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 28, 2007, 09:51:52 AM
That's Gustavo Baddel!  :o

(http://www.gustavobadell.com/images/2005mrolympianew/IMG_8243.jpg)



LOL Alexxx......those stage lights help him double in size!!!     
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: alexxx on April 28, 2007, 10:07:12 AM


LOL Alexxx......those stage lights help him double in size!!!     

Yes but their is no denying the similarities in the muscles though!
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Mars on April 28, 2007, 10:11:50 AM
Can you imagine this guy is seeing his picture in this thread haha. he will imediately find out who took the picture haha.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 28, 2007, 10:34:00 AM
Thats the War-Horse.......That fat peice of shiaaaatttt!!!

The tan line is down on the arm because i wear oversize t-shirts most of the time.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Stark on April 28, 2007, 10:35:05 AM
Can you imagine this guy is seeing his picture in this thread haha. he will imediately find out who took the picture haha.

I think he asked him...
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: wes on April 28, 2007, 10:42:54 AM
Looks ridiculous.....no forearms whatsoever by comparison to his upper arms.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: timfogarty on April 28, 2007, 11:03:14 AM

Hes 5'10"  was 250lbs......now cutting at 237Lbs.   He looks like a druggie but swears lifetime natty.....   

no, he doesn't look like a druggie.  he looks fat.  for him to be ripped and hard I doubt he'd weigh 205.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Knives on April 28, 2007, 11:12:08 AM

ha ha....he looks like mel gibson after a lot of ice cream and some gear....hard to say if he is juicing...how tall is he?

LOL
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: CQ on April 28, 2007, 11:13:38 AM
Looks ridiculous.....no forearms whatsoever by comparison to his upper arms.

Hate to be rude, but I thought the same thing.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 28, 2007, 11:14:59 AM
no, he doesn't look like a druggie.  he looks fat.  for him to be ripped and hard I doubt he'd weigh 205.


Tim, Your right on.  Should be around 210lbs fat free.

Wes, pics are decieving i guess.  I have crazy big forearms, people comment on em all the time....Ill post a pic of em later.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: odilly on April 28, 2007, 11:38:12 AM
soo that pis really is you war horse ha ha how did it feel to find your self on the internet wiht out giving permission and how bad are you going to beat the guy who put that pic up
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: The Squadfather on April 28, 2007, 11:40:30 AM
War Horse is a big dude for sure, big ass arm.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: odilly on April 28, 2007, 11:45:09 AM
and once again  i prove myself to be a idiot
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Childish///AMG on April 28, 2007, 11:45:57 AM
Definately "Huge" arms :o :o
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Mars on April 28, 2007, 11:51:58 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=144752.0;attach=161505;image) (http://www.steroidsdontwork.com/assets/graphics/point_of_no_return.jpg)
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: wes on April 28, 2007, 11:59:03 AM
No offense meant WH,but in that particular shot the forearms look way out of proportion........probab ly just the angle of the photo.

Huge friggin` arms though dude............. big props on the big guns !
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: BEAST 8692 on April 28, 2007, 12:00:24 PM
i still can't understand how a guy (valentino) can get so fucked in the head that he can think that's impressive ??? i'd honestly rather have 12 inch arms.

as for the other fucknuckle, yeah i see the resemblance. the only difference is, this guy's a fat shit with synthol arms.

it looks stupid and, as pointed out, where's the forearms?

what happened to natural big arms. them were the days.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 28, 2007, 03:12:09 PM
WTH    you got a shot of valvelino with me???     Anyway heres my skinny forarms that ive never worked in my whole life.......
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: The Squadfather on April 28, 2007, 03:12:53 PM
looking big War Horse.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 28, 2007, 03:17:30 PM
Thanks for the good words friends......I know i look like a fat bag of shit still but were working on it.     Im done post whoring myself and will not show a pic till im at 10% or less..............thats 12 more weeks!! :o
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Stavios on April 28, 2007, 03:17:57 PM
Huge arms War-Horse
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: gh15 on April 28, 2007, 03:41:07 PM
no seo,,just fat and good muslce mass and shape under,,those are big arms both arm and forarm and also the fuckin hand itself is big and thick,,

that guy is just high bodyfat% but there is good shoulders good pecs good arms under this fat,,

cut
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Matt C on April 28, 2007, 03:50:39 PM
no, he doesn't look like a druggie.  he looks fat.  for him to be ripped and hard I doubt he'd weigh 205.

Which is really not too bad for 5'10!  8)
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: CQ on April 28, 2007, 03:59:56 PM
WTH    you got a shot of valvelino with me???     Anyway heres my skinny forarms that ive never worked in my whole life.......

That is a much better angle, the other one the forearms seemed much smaller.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: siouxcountry on April 28, 2007, 04:05:19 PM
Big arms, but 20 inches unlikely.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: The Squadfather on April 28, 2007, 04:06:30 PM
Big arms, but 20 inches unlikely.
they're at least 19 and very likely 20.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: siouxcountry on April 28, 2007, 04:08:09 PM
they're at least 19 and very likely 20.

He said over 20 cold, we both know how rare that is, and we also know how many lie on this board.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: The Squadfather on April 28, 2007, 04:09:57 PM
He said over 20 cold, we both no how rare that is, and we also know how many lie on this board.
probably not 20 cold, a 20 inch cold arm is fuccking huge but i'd say just hanging there they're probably 18 3/4 to 19 inches.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: CQ on April 28, 2007, 04:16:55 PM
No idea about actual measurements, I am feeble in that area, but his upper arms are indisputably huge.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: The Squadfather on April 28, 2007, 04:19:02 PM
No idea about actual measurements, I am feeble in that area, but his upper arms are indisputably huge.
yes they are very big.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Dballn247 on April 28, 2007, 04:22:42 PM
No doubt the skinny kids on the board will claim he is fat. ::) 
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: alexxx on April 28, 2007, 04:23:06 PM
WTH    you got a shot of valvelino with me???     Anyway heres my skinny forarms that ive never worked in my whole life.......

:o WOW bro you are def huge!! Arms at least 20 inches!
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: The Squadfather on April 28, 2007, 04:23:55 PM
No doubt the skinny kids on the board will claim he is fat. ::) 
hahahahahaa, exactly, they'll tell him to take 5000mg. of ephedrine a day and do 10 hours of cardio a day. ::)
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: spotter on April 28, 2007, 06:52:56 PM
He's at my gym alot and claims a 20 1/4" arm cold.......he never shrinks down so if he's using..........he's gonna shit his liver out right???

The trick is to figureout the drug he didn't take....The list is short!!! :-X
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 28, 2007, 07:27:49 PM
The trick is to figureout the drug he didn't take....The list is short!!! :-X



Ive never used steroids, gh, insulin, clen..(Obviously)LOL, thyroid......I went to the steroid board and didnt know what the hell they were talking about.

Just good old heavy lifting and pizza and beer for alot of years.

Someone said it right..."Just an old Silverback with lots of muscle and plenty of fat"

In the 90's  when muscletech cameout with anotesten (androstendione) I bought a bottle of that and 2 weeks in was breaking out with acne and more bloated than usual, so i gave it to a friend.   This was the beginning of prohormones, I didnt want to go bald so i never used them.

BTW my arm measurement is flexed, ive never measured relaxed at side......
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: The Squadfather on April 28, 2007, 07:28:49 PM


Ive never used steroids, gh, insulin, clen..(Obviously)LOL, thyroid......I went to the steroid board and didnt know what the hell they were talking about.

Just good old heavy lifting and pizza and beer for alot of years.

Someone said it right..."Just an old Silverback with lots of muscle and plenty of fat"

In the 90's  when muscletech cameout with anotesten (androstendione) I bought a bottle of that and 2 weeks in was breaking out with acne and more bloated than usual, so i gave it to a friend.   This was the beginning of prohormones, I didnt want to go bald so i never used them.

BTW my arm measurement is flexed, ive never measured relaxed at side......
you're a big mofo regardless.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: The Squadfather on April 28, 2007, 07:33:02 PM
what does your training look like War Horse?
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on April 28, 2007, 07:42:23 PM

He's doing an hour of cardio every morning, for the past month...he says he's still got 20 lbs of fat to lose tho....down 13lbs so far.


good god you are a queer..... why the hell are you watching this guy so close? and the sad part is that you fags have made a thread outof it... do you want this guy to buttfuck you??    ???
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: The Squadfather on April 28, 2007, 07:43:20 PM

good god you are a queer..... why the hell are you watching this guy so close? and the sad part is that you fags have made a thread outof it... do you want this guy to buttfuck you??    ???
he's talking about himself dummy.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on April 28, 2007, 07:45:39 PM
he's talking about himself dummy.


I should have known ---that makes it even worse... gosh....
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 28, 2007, 07:47:13 PM
what does your training look like War Horse?




Mon wed fri sun.  Cardio 1hr in A.M. empty stomach.

Weights  3on 1off    &  2on  1off.      back and shoulders,   legs,    chest and arms.

Eat 6 meals a day.   protien and greens.    
 Only carbs are after weights    100 grams

Supplements:   Egg, casien powder.    NO2 1 hr prew/out      BSN cellmass after w/OUT

4 weeks in.......16-20 to go...     Goal 10% fat.     Current 20%      Started 24%
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: The Squadfather on April 28, 2007, 07:48:01 PM

I should have known ---that makes it even worse... gosh....
hahahahaha War Horse is far bigger and stronger than you and you use 2 grams of gear a week and he's totally natural, how does that feel? ;D
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on April 28, 2007, 07:53:39 PM
hahahahaha War Horse is far bigger and stronger than you and you use 2 grams of gear a week and he's totally natural, how does that feel? ;D


my sucees is not measured by comparisons to warhorse, dipshit.... unlike you, my lifee and ambition is not dependant on my status at getbig  ::)   boy, you sure are a waste of human flesh.... squadhomo
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: The Squadfather on April 28, 2007, 07:55:15 PM

my sucees is not measured by comparisons to warhorse, dipshit.... unlike you, my lifee and ambition is not dependant on my status at getbig  ::)   boy, you sure are a waste of human flesh.... squadhomo
hahahahahaha, of course it isn't ::) that's why you get so angry when i ask to see pics of the monstrous physique that you must have after using 900mg. of test and 600mg. of Deca per week.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 28, 2007, 07:57:18 PM
hahahahaha War Horse is far bigger and stronger than you and you use 2 grams of gear a week and he's totally natural, how does that feel? ;D


Ive got no problem with gear users, thats how they want to live.  I just didnt want to complicate my life with all the chemistry lessons and wondering if I was gonna keep any of the gains.

I think alot of the ethyl creatines and nitric oxide stuff increases protien synthysis almost as well as the gear.     My muscles are staying full on 100 g of carbs a day and only 50g of fat.......that shouldnt be normal.    Timing supps is crucial.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: alexxx on April 28, 2007, 07:58:34 PM



Mon wed fri sun.  Cardio 1hr in A.M. empty stomach.

Weights  3on 1off    &  2on  1off.      back and shoulders,   legs,    chest and arms.

Eat 6 meals a day.   protien and greens.    
 Only carbs are after weights    100 grams

Supplements:   Egg, casien powder.    NO2 1 hr prew/out      BSN cellmass after w/OUT

4 weeks in.......16-20 to go...     Goal 10% fat.     Current 20%      Started 24%

If I remember correct you did one week heavy and next week lots of reps. You still do that?
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on April 28, 2007, 08:02:02 PM

Ive got no problem with gear users, thats how they want to live.  I just didnt want to complicate my life with all the chemistry lessons and wondering if I was gonna keep any of the gains.

I think alot of the ethyl creatines and nitric oxide stuff increases protien synthysis almost as well as the gear.     My muscles are staying full on 100 g of carbs a day and only 50g of fat.......that shouldnt be normal.    Timing supps is crucial.



nice post---I appologize for clowning on you earlier, I didnt realize you were a real person and not a cyber fag like that squadhomo
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 28, 2007, 08:04:50 PM
If I remember correct you did one week heavy and next week lots of reps. You still do that?


Yes, over the 3 days i take to work my whole body, the first 3 are 6-10 reps
                                                                      the nxt 3  are 10- 20 reps.
So really its within the same week.
 
At the end of my last set on an exercise  i will drop the weight and do partials till i cant hold the bar.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on April 28, 2007, 08:08:22 PM

Yes, over the 3 days i take to work my whole body, the first 3 are 6-10 reps
                                                                      the nxt 3  are 10- 20 reps.
So really its within the same week.
 
At the end of my last set on an exercise  i will drop the weight and do partials till i cant hold the bar.

"i will drop the weight and do partials till I cant hold the bar"  I bet that doesnt take long    ::)
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: alexxx on April 28, 2007, 08:08:44 PM

Yes, over the 3 days i take to work my whole body, the first 3 are 6-10 reps
                                                                      the nxt 3  are 10- 20 reps.
So really its within the same week.
 
At the end of my last set on an exercise  i will drop the weight and do partials till i cant hold the bar.

Yes covering all your bases! Smart!
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 28, 2007, 08:12:09 PM
"i will drop the weight and do partials till I cant hold the bar"  I bet that doesnt take long    ::)


What do you mean???
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: alexxx on April 28, 2007, 08:21:06 PM

What do you mean???

Leave him be he is have a dose of roid rage! ;D
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 28, 2007, 08:26:26 PM
Leave him be he is have a dose of roid rage! ;D



LOL.  Its saturday nite i guess.... 8)
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Stavios on April 28, 2007, 08:30:13 PM
War-horse will pwn every one of you when he'll be dieted down

those are some sick ass arms with very good shape too

if he weights 250, I think he would be around 200 in contest shape wich is VERY good for a natural

keep us posted on your progress !
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 28, 2007, 08:35:33 PM
War-horse will pwn every one of you when he'll be dieted down

those are some sick ass arms with very good shape too

if he weights 250, I think he would be around 200 in contest shape wich is VERY good for a natural

keep us posted on your progress !


Thanks stavios.   I dont need to pawn anyone, most are supportive.  You are right Ill be at 210lbs or so cut and veins......no more pics for 12 weeks tho 8)
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Stavios on April 28, 2007, 08:37:32 PM
absolutly, when I mean 200, I mean SUPER shredded

of course even at 210-220 you will still be very lean
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: siouxcountry on April 28, 2007, 08:54:47 PM
As I said before you got huge arms.

Why don't guys who brag about 20 inch arms or a 500 pound bench press ever prove it? If I had 20 inch arms and felt the need to brag about it on the internet I'd at least take a photograph measuring it with a tape measure, or better yet Youtube it.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on April 28, 2007, 09:24:46 PM
As I said before you got huge arms.

Why don't guys who brag about 20 inch arms or a 500 pound bench press ever prove it? If I had 20 inch arms and felt the need to brag about it on the internet I'd at least take a photograph measuring it with a tape measure, or better yet Youtube it.



another homo begging for a picture.... playgirl is cheap, hell, you can find some homo pron on the internet for free to jerk off with ::)
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Big N on April 28, 2007, 09:29:46 PM

another homo begging for a picture.... playgirl is cheap, hell, you can find some homo pron on the internet for free to jerk off with ::)



Sioux is cool bro  ;)
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: XFACTOR on April 28, 2007, 09:30:32 PM


Sioux is cool bro  ;)

You're not
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Big N on April 28, 2007, 10:09:52 PM
You're not


I have a question for you, why an asian tattoo on your body? Does that make you half-asian and a super cool guy  ???
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: HowieW on April 28, 2007, 10:19:40 PM
War Horse is a big dude for sure, big ass arm.

The guiy looks thick but I agree needs to lose a good 28-30 lbs to look hard and ripped. If he juices he doesn't look like he doesn't do much and just has thick overall mass and good strcuture.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on April 28, 2007, 10:20:40 PM

I have a question for you, why an asian tattoo on your body? Does that make you half-asian and a super cool guy  ???

ha ha ha...you guys are on the same team so stop fussing
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: gh15 on April 28, 2007, 10:22:41 PM
absolutly, when I mean 200, I mean SUPER shredded

of course even at 210-220 you will still be very lean

no

if the person in the picture is a life time natural and i veryvery much doubt it,,but if he is,,he will not be 200lb and shredded,,,

~5lb = 1% bodyfat losing it the natural way!
he will be 200lb sitting at 10% bodyfat with quite big arms as in 18.5 inches which is very good for a 200lb pounder at 10%,,,rare are the ones who have 20+ inch arms at 5'10natural even at 20%,,,RARE! im talkin about 1 out of 100 serious lifters if that!

he will have to lose it down to 180-185lb to become shredded as i consider 6% or under shredded for the general lifter

on hormones he will be 6% at 200lb or so,,thats right

trust me i am never wrong when it comes to body composition wether youre nartural or not,,

any arm that mesure over 20 inches at 5'10 is either very very uniqly blessed or been through years of on and off "therapy" called hormonization of the body,, m1t and all that other good stuff

there are some big country boys  in usa,,,in some no where to be found towns,,,with big big arms,,but they usually sit at 12-13% 18-19 inch arms naturally at 5'10 or so,,nothin more,,they are the blessed ones as i call them,,by the way even many of them been through the needle and pills usually experimenting around but not prolong use,,those guys that do have those 18-19 inch natural arms at 5'10,,have it at over 10% bodyfat and years of training usually from teen age 13-14 in their local ymca or whatever you got there in usa,,their other bodyparts are usually lacking too in comparison to their arms since they put major concentration on the arms during the years,,this is NOT the case with the person in the picture since he is well developed


always think about it this way,,,

the body is the temple of the bodybuilder,,,NOTHING WILL STOP THE BODYBUILDER FROM GETTING TO WHERE HE WANTS,, same rule applys to the serious lifter,,its also true to any profession or obsessive hobby,,

you got aas and other hormones and fatburners and new peptides coming out of the asshole of every new source who come to town now days,,

if you have a house,,,you always wanna improve it make it worth more,,,if you have a car..you always wana improve it or you buy the best one,,,same with body

you are all lifters,,you all think and shit bodybuilding for morning launch and dinner,,,this is your main hobby,,,you go in the gym and all you do is lift and wanna be the best mother fucker who stand there bodywize,,you want all the girls to think you are the shit,,,right? and if you see someone better you get mad usually!

nothing stop trans like that,,,bodybuilding is severe addiction to hormones,,,even if youre clean sometimes or "natural" in your own little work place or town so you dont get marked by the little local sherrif office,,or say you are natural because your image can be hurt if you said otherwize and so is your market value,,,or you hide it from wifey,,,

it all comes to the same thing at the end,,,wanting to look the best possible way,,a carpenter got his tools,,a painter got his tools,,,and a bodybuilder too got his tools and that includes hormones in some form or another,,,wether it is in liquid suspension ,,or liquid solution ,,or ams or vials ,,or paper orals,,or tablets,,or pills,,or simply the powder themselves so you can suck them down your throat or put them in your protien powder,,,its all the same thing my friends
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: SS on April 28, 2007, 10:23:36 PM
gotta run, but i wanted to throw a quik boom in there for naveed.


BOOOOOOOM! ;D


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=143935.0;attach=160826;image)
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: tommywishbone on April 28, 2007, 10:33:42 PM
  ;D ;D WTF is his head 3 feet in front of his body?
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: tommywishbone on April 28, 2007, 10:34:58 PM
gotta run, but i wanted to throw a quik boom in there for naveed.


BOOOOOOOM! ;D


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=143935.0;attach=160826;image)

 ;D ;D Gawd Dammit! Stop!
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: tommywishbone on April 28, 2007, 10:37:12 PM
gotta run, but i wanted to throw a quik boom in there for naveed.


BOOOOOOOM! ;D


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               CRISCO!!
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Big N on April 28, 2007, 10:41:58 PM
;D ;D Gawd Dammit! Stop!

Where did you get air from guy? You're just a gimmick, an internet troll as well as "getanabolicsforum". Show us your pictures and "own,pwn monster this & that" 


:D
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Big N on April 28, 2007, 10:49:55 PM
"Crickets-Crickets"


Typical "getbig" internet-troll, balls of steel behind a wall but soft like a pussy when to "shy" to post a picture.   


:-*

Remember this "cute quote" of yours tommmAAAAy

... I may lose my money and my friends, but I'll always have my memories, of the Iron Sheik and the double headlock....

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Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Mars on April 28, 2007, 11:52:34 PM
That is a much better angle, the other one the forearms seemed much smaller.

Exactly. great arms war horse.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: BEAST 8692 on April 29, 2007, 12:07:07 AM
Exactly. great arms war horse.

yep, i stand corrected. apologies warhorse, getting a bit cynical with all these shitty looking synthol arms walking around and i judged you way too quickly.

your arms look just plain massive and thick. look like they could bear hug a...bear (non gay ref).

impressive in any condition, but if you're dieting now, damn, can't wait to see the 10% version. :o

good luck with it war horse. guys like you were meant to be silverbacks. ;D
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: arce377 on April 29, 2007, 12:15:15 AM
ALL DRUGS
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 29, 2007, 12:45:12 PM
yep, i stand corrected. apologies warhorse, getting a bit cynical with all these shitty looking synthol arms walking around and i judged you way too quickly.

your arms look just plain massive and thick. look like they could bear hug a...bear (non gay ref).

impressive in any condition, but if you're dieting now, damn, can't wait to see the 10% version. :o

good luck with it war horse. guys like you were meant to be silverbacks. ;D



No prob beast.    You say you see synthol arms and such.....you mean in the mags or are you in the industry??      I cant believe this oil stuff......Ive never fooled myself into thinking i wanted to be an ifbb pro, so i never went to the extremes of gear use, and oil injections???     I just lifted like a powerlifter for many years and am gifted with fast twitch muscle fibers i guess.
I love the term "Silverback"  Ive paid my dues after 25yrs. 8)     Thanks for the props.


gh15   Ill take your words as a compliment.......rare indeed, i did the hard way!!
          However 1% of my weight is 2.37lbs not 5lbs.   In the next 12 weeks or so im sure i can gain 5lbs of muscle im sure.....


Arce........Thank you, but your wrong.     If i can get lean this year, I'll turn natural as a pro, somewhere. And Ill be glad to be tested anytime anywhere even suprise calls.      Nothing to fear from me.
 
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: The Squadfather on April 29, 2007, 01:09:36 PM
no

if the person in the picture is a life time natural and i veryvery much doubt it,,but if he is,,he will not be 200lb and shredded,,,

~5lb = 1% bodyfat losing it the natural way!
he will be 200lb sitting at 10% bodyfat with quite big arms as in 18.5 inches which is very good for a 200lb pounder at 10%,,,rare are the ones who have 20+ inch arms at 5'10natural even at 20%,,,RARE! im talkin about 1 out of 100 serious lifters if that!

he will have to lose it down to 180-185lb to become shredded as i consider 6% or under shredded for the general lifter

on hormones he will be 6% at 200lb or so,,thats right

trust me i am never wrong when it comes to body composition wether youre nartural or not,,

any arm that mesure over 20 inches at 5'10 is either very very uniqly blessed or been through years of on and off "therapy" called hormonization of the body,, m1t and all that other good stuff

there are some big country boys  in usa,,,in some no where to be found towns,,,with big big arms,,but they usually sit at 12-13% 18-19 inch arms naturally at 5'10 or so,,nothin more,,they are the blessed ones as i call them,,by the way even many of them been through the needle and pills usually experimenting around but not prolong use,,those guys that do have those 18-19 inch natural arms at 5'10,,have it at over 10% bodyfat and years of training usually from teen age 13-14 in their local ymca or whatever you got there in usa,,their other bodyparts are usually lacking too in comparison to their arms since they put major concentration on the arms during the years,,this is NOT the case with the person in the picture since he is well developed


always think about it this way,,,

the body is the temple of the bodybuilder,,,NOTHING WILL STOP THE BODYBUILDER FROM GETTING TO WHERE HE WANTS,, same rule applys to the serious lifter,,its also true to any profession or obsessive hobby,,

you got aas and other hormones and fatburners and new peptides coming out of the asshole of every new source who come to town now days,,

if you have a house,,,you always wanna improve it make it worth more,,,if you have a car..you always wana improve it or you buy the best one,,,same with body

you are all lifters,,you all think and shit bodybuilding for morning launch and dinner,,,this is your main hobby,,,you go in the gym and all you do is lift and wanna be the best mother fucker who stand there bodywize,,you want all the girls to think you are the shit,,,right? and if you see someone better you get mad usually!

nothing stop trans like that,,,bodybuilding is severe addiction to hormones,,,even if youre clean sometimes or "natural" in your own little work place or town so you dont get marked by the little local sherrif office,,or say you are natural because your image can be hurt if you said otherwize and so is your market value,,,or you hide it from wifey,,,

it all comes to the same thing at the end,,,wanting to look the best possible way,,a carpenter got his tools,,a painter got his tools,,,and a bodybuilder too got his tools and that includes hormones in some form or another,,,wether it is in liquid suspension ,,or liquid solution ,,or ams or vials ,,or paper orals,,or tablets,,or pills,,or simply the powder themselves so you can suck them down your throat or put them in your protien powder,,,its all the same thing my friends
good post GH, totally agree.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Bones on April 29, 2007, 07:57:17 PM
superstarBALDYgram



 Get off the Viagra, you're loosing all your head oldfart BALDY ;D

  Hey...you stole my fat boy statue pic >:(
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Bones on April 29, 2007, 08:13:22 PM
He's at my gym alot and claims a 20 1/4" arm cold.......he never shrinks down so if he's using..........he's gonna shit his liver out right???
  I hope not...like what some of the others have said , them arms are going to skrink up big time if he ever decides to lose some of that chub.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: BEAST 8692 on April 29, 2007, 11:22:21 PM
no

if the person in the picture is a life time natural and i veryvery much doubt it,,but if he is,,he will not be 200lb and shredded,,,

~5lb = 1% bodyfat losing it the natural way!
he will be 200lb sitting at 10% bodyfat with quite big arms as in 18.5 inches which is very good for a 200lb pounder at 10%,,,rare are the ones who have 20+ inch arms at 5'10natural even at 20%,,,RARE! im talkin about 1 out of 100 serious lifters if that!

he will have to lose it down to 180-185lb to become shredded as i consider 6% or under shredded for the general lifter

on hormones he will be 6% at 200lb or so,,thats right

trust me i am never wrong when it comes to body composition wether youre nartural or not,,

any arm that mesure over 20 inches at 5'10 is either very very uniqly blessed or been through years of on and off "therapy" called hormonization of the body,, m1t and all that other good stuff

there are some big country boys  in usa,,,in some no where to be found towns,,,with big big arms,,but they usually sit at 12-13% 18-19 inch arms naturally at 5'10 or so,,nothin more,,they are the blessed ones as i call them,,by the way even many of them been through the needle and pills usually experimenting around but not prolong use,,those guys that do have those 18-19 inch natural arms at 5'10,,have it at over 10% bodyfat and years of training usually from teen age 13-14 in their local ymca or whatever you got there in usa,,their other bodyparts are usually lacking too in comparison to their arms since they put major concentration on the arms during the years,,this is NOT the case with the person in the picture since he is well developed


always think about it this way,,,

the body is the temple of the bodybuilder,,,NOTHING WILL STOP THE BODYBUILDER FROM GETTING TO WHERE HE WANTS,, same rule applys to the serious lifter,,its also true to any profession or obsessive hobby,,

you got aas and other hormones and fatburners and new peptides coming out of the asshole of every new source who come to town now days,,

if you have a house,,,you always wanna improve it make it worth more,,,if you have a car..you always wana improve it or you buy the best one,,,same with body

you are all lifters,,you all think and shit bodybuilding for morning launch and dinner,,,this is your main hobby,,,you go in the gym and all you do is lift and wanna be the best mother fucker who stand there bodywize,,you want all the girls to think you are the shit,,,right? and if you see someone better you get mad usually!

nothing stop trans like that,,,bodybuilding is severe addiction to hormones,,,even if youre clean sometimes or "natural" in your own little work place or town so you dont get marked by the little local sherrif office,,or say you are natural because your image can be hurt if you said otherwize and so is your market value,,,or you hide it from wifey,,,

it all comes to the same thing at the end,,,wanting to look the best possible way,,a carpenter got his tools,,a painter got his tools,,,and a bodybuilder too got his tools and that includes hormones in some form or another,,,wether it is in liquid suspension ,,or liquid solution ,,or ams or vials ,,or paper orals,,or tablets,,or pills,,or simply the powder themselves so you can suck them down your throat or put them in your protien powder,,,its all the same thing my friends

all well and good, but how are you going to tell if someone is 'blessed' or not.

if the guy's got a legite 20 inch arm, people in the know or not are always going to say the guy's juicing.

basically, from the 1930's (when testosterone was first isolated from animal urine) onward, it is possible that individuals could have been using it (in some crude form).

Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 30, 2007, 12:04:43 AM
looking good warhorse....
particularly in the second shot...
good stuff
 8)
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Bodies on April 30, 2007, 12:31:00 AM
stick with the diet WH - I'll be very interested to see how much mass you have to sacrifice to get into single digit bf%
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 30, 2007, 09:24:14 AM
stick with the diet WH - I'll be very interested to see how much mass you have to sacrifice to get into single digit bf%



Mesomorh,  Thanks for the compliment, if i can look half as ripped as you sometime Ill be happy. 8)



Bodies,  yeah Ill stick to it, im tired of the fat covering......Itll be a challenge to diet down and not lose any muscle w/out steroids to protect the muscles.    Ill just look at 1-2lbs a week or so.      Im curious as well to know how Ill look!! :)
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Laura Lee on April 30, 2007, 01:29:33 PM
He's at my gym alot and claims a 20 1/4" arm cold.......he never shrinks down so if he's using..........he's gonna shit his liver out right???
He looks all tricep, no bicep to speak of.   :-\
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: alexxx on April 30, 2007, 03:16:51 PM
He looks all tricep, no bicep to speak of.   :-\

At least he is not all 'inflated head' like you and yours truly!
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on April 30, 2007, 07:00:27 PM
Looking great man!  When you cut I think you will look unbelievable.

A question about your training if you don't mind.  Do you goto failure on most exercises or stop short of failure?





Simplyhuge,  I stop a couple reps short most of the time....but on my last set i rep out till i drop the weights....Thanks for the props, i hope to make a big entry into the natural shows this fall.

Laura,  Dont worry babe, i got baseball biceps....just camera angle....like my forearms 8)

Alexxx, your the Bomb brother!!!!  I just need to get as cut as you!!!
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: alexxx on April 30, 2007, 07:26:43 PM


Simplyhuge,  I stop a couple reps short most of the time....but on my last set i rep out till i drop the weights....Thanks for the props, i hope to make a big entry into the natural shows this fall.

Laura,  Dont worry babe, i got baseball biceps....just camera angle....like my forearms 8)

Alexxx, your the Bomb brother!!!!  I just need to get as cut as you!!!

And I need to get as massive as you! :)
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Laura Lee on May 01, 2007, 04:46:53 AM
At least he is not all 'inflated head' like you and yours truly!
or deflated...like your body.  :-*
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: alexxx on May 01, 2007, 10:07:20 AM
or deflated...like your body.  :-*

Granted he has the upper mass on me but I am still pass that drunken monkey you call "honey". ;)
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Laura Lee on May 01, 2007, 10:11:10 AM
Granted he has the upper mass on me but I am still pass that drunken monkey you call "honey". ;)
That's doubtful.  And I call him "baby"  :-*
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: G.R.H. on May 01, 2007, 03:55:53 PM
big arms, but alot of fat is there.   :(
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: MindSpin on May 01, 2007, 04:46:11 PM



Mon wed fri sun.  Cardio 1hr in A.M. empty stomach.

Weights  3on 1off    &  2on  1off.      back and shoulders,   legs,    chest and arms.

Eat 6 meals a day.   protien and greens.    
 Only carbs are after weights    100 grams

Supplements:   Egg, casien powder.    NO2 1 hr prew/out      BSN cellmass after w/OUT

4 weeks in.......16-20 to go...     Goal 10% fat.     Current 20%      Started 24%

War-Horse is a true beast! 

WH are you watching your fogure or that how you always eat?  BTW I do really well on low carbs yearound...
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: MindSpin on May 01, 2007, 04:53:37 PM
no

if the person in the picture is a life time natural and i veryvery much doubt it,,but if he is,,he will not be 200lb and shredded,,,

~5lb = 1% bodyfat losing it the natural way!
he will be 200lb sitting at 10% bodyfat with quite big arms as in 18.5 inches which is very good for a 200lb pounder at 10%,,,rare are the ones who have 20+ inch arms at 5'10natural even at 20%,,,RARE! im talkin about 1 out of 100 serious lifters if that!

he will have to lose it down to 180-185lb to become shredded as i consider 6% or under shredded for the general lifter

on hormones he will be 6% at 200lb or so,,thats right

trust me i am never wrong when it comes to body composition wether youre nartural or not,,

any arm that mesure over 20 inches at 5'10 is either very very uniqly blessed or been through years of on and off "therapy" called hormonization of the body,, m1t and all that other good stuff

there are some big country boys  in usa,,,in some no where to be found towns,,,with big big arms,,but they usually sit at 12-13% 18-19 inch arms naturally at 5'10 or so,,nothin more,,they are the blessed ones as i call them,,by the way even many of them been through the needle and pills usually experimenting around but not prolong use,,those guys that do have those 18-19 inch natural arms at 5'10,,have it at over 10% bodyfat and years of training usually from teen age 13-14 in their local ymca or whatever you got there in usa,,their other bodyparts are usually lacking too in comparison to their arms since they put major concentration on the arms during the years,,this is NOT the case with the person in the picture since he is well developed



Here is a 5'11, 194lbs, 17.75" arms, 4-5% BF hormone enhanced physique ;D

GH15 knows what he's talking about...
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: alexxx on May 01, 2007, 05:04:48 PM
Here is a 5'11, 194lbs, 17.75" arms, 4-5% BF hormone enhanced physique ;D

GH15 knows what he's talking about...

:o what a monster!!

You could have gone far obi one!
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: BEAST 8692 on May 01, 2007, 07:17:45 PM
:o what a monster!!

You could have gone far obi one!

agreed, great symmetry, structure, proportion, especially legs.

if i had to be really picky, and i'm comparing him to someone like labrada here so it might be impossible, he needed more mass to fill out his frame, especially in the upper body.

IF he could have done that (and i don't really see why he couldn't, looking at his muscle bellies) imo he would have been competing for the olympia.

DISCLAIMER: I AM ONLY REFERRING TO ALEXX'S COMMENT ON WHETHER MINDSPIN WOULD HAVE 'GONE FAR', AS IN MR O, NOT WHETHER OR NOT HE HAD A GREAT PHYSIQUE (THAT IS OBVIOUS).

anyway, just thought i'd give my .02c. great job mindspin.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Monster_Everything on May 02, 2007, 07:11:46 AM
Here is a 5'11, 194lbs, 17.75" arms, 4-5% BF hormone enhanced physique ;D

GH15 knows what he's talking about...
What 'hormones' are we talking about, and if they are able to be purchased at GNC tell me... ;D
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Laura Lee on May 02, 2007, 07:35:35 AM
:o what a monster!!

You could have gone far obi one!
I agree!  (Now there's a first  ;D)


Why didn't you take it further Yem?  (behave now, I'm serious, don't break out the "other" side of you  ;))
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on May 02, 2007, 05:11:52 PM
Ive always seen spin has a killer physique....couldve gone alot farther in the sport.   Killer sweeps..

As for me, Im more of a mike mentzer, body.   Yes im watching carbs and leaning out pritty fast, i re-feed on weekends with clean food and the veins come out like crazy.   Im not so concerned with numbers and bodyweight, Ill let my body end up where it needs to be to hit 10%fat goal.  Thats my main goal is 10%...
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: MindSpin on May 03, 2007, 08:49:17 AM
agreed, great symmetry, structure, proportion, especially legs.

if i had to be really picky, and i'm comparing him to someone like labrada here so it might be impossible, he needed more mass to fill out his frame, especially in the upper body.

IF he could have done that (and i don't really see why he couldn't, looking at his muscle bellies) imo he would have been competing for the olympia.

DISCLAIMER: I AM ONLY REFERRING TO ALEXX'S COMMENT ON WHETHER MINDSPIN WOULD HAVE 'GONE FAR', AS IN MR O, NOT WHETHER OR NOT HE HAD A GREAT PHYSIQUE (THAT IS OBVIOUS).

anyway, just thought i'd give my .02c. great job mindspin.

Thanks for the props, but as I've said before there is no way I could have put on the amount of muscle required to even turn pro, let alone be successful as one.  And even if I could have, I would not have.  It's a destructive endeavour metally, socially and physically. 

I agree!  (Now there's a first  ;D)


Why didn't you take it further Yem?  (behave now, I'm serious, don't break out the "other" side of you  ;))

???
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: alexxx on May 03, 2007, 08:51:32 AM
Thanks for the props, but as I've said before there is no way I could have put on the amount of muscle required to even turn pro, let alone be successful as one.  And even if I could have, I would not have.  It's a destructive endeavour metally, socially and physically. 

???

When was that? During Lee's reign or Dorian?
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: MindSpin on May 03, 2007, 09:00:16 AM
When was that? During Lee's reign or Dorian?

Either one.  The heaviest I ever stepped on stage was 194 and that year I was holding a bit of water.  Should have been 192.

To be competitive on the national level, I needed to be at 225-240.  That would have required mass dosages of GH & AAS for a prolonged period of time.  I might have gotten there, but saw no point in it.  I moved on b4 ever trying GH or real heavy cycles...glad I did.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: The Squadfather on May 03, 2007, 01:44:51 PM
Either one.  The heaviest I ever stepped on stage was 194 and that year I was holding a bit of water.  Should have been 192.

To be competitive on the national level, I needed to be at 225-240.  That would have required mass dosages of GH & AAS for a prolonged period of time.  I might have gotten there, but saw no point in it.  I moved on b4 ever trying GH or real heavy cycles...glad I did.
you looked awesome the way you were, no need to go crazy and go to 240-250, excellent build.
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: XFACTOR on May 03, 2007, 01:48:17 PM
Here is a 5'11, 194lbs, 17.75" arms, 4-5% BF hormone enhanced physique ;D

GH15 knows what he's talking about...

Sick physique.  Are you really 5'11.  Look more like 5'9-5'8 regardless wicked.  What was your stack like? 

Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: MindSpin on May 03, 2007, 02:07:14 PM
you looked awesome the way you were, no need to go crazy and go to 240-250, excellent build.

a few weeks after that pic was taken I took 5th or 6th (forgot now) at the 1996 LA.  Thanks.  Everyone who placed ahead of me, including Troy Alves, weighed about 198 but were like 5'7 - 5'8.  To be competitive I needed to be a heavy weight...

Sick physique.  Are you really 5'11.  Look more like 5'9-5'8 regardless wicked.  What was your stack like? 



Thanks.  I am 5'11".  I would train a full year for each show.  I would be on for four consecutive months prior to the show starting with one AAS and ultimately stacking four.  I used basic stuff i.e. d-ball, cyp, parabolan, sustanon, omnidren, suspension & primobolan.  I never tried deca or winnivy becasue I never found real stuff.  Never tried GH becasue I didn't want to spend the money.  I also used clen & Triacana to cut up.  I kept dosages pretty moderate and switched stuff up every 6 weeks.  I did this for three years.  Looking back on it, it was a pretty stupid thing to do.  Hopefully I did not cause any long-term damages.   :-\
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: XFACTOR on May 03, 2007, 04:32:54 PM
a few weeks after that pic was taken I took 5th or 6th (forgot now) at the 1996 LA.  Thanks.  Everyone who placed ahead of me, including Troy Alves, weighed about 198 but were like 5'7 - 5'8.  To be competitive I needed to be a heavy weight...

Thanks.  I am 5'11".  I would train a full year for each show.  I would be on for four consecutive months prior to the show starting with one AAS and ultimately stacking four.  I used basic stuff i.e. d-ball, cyp, parabolan, sustanon, omnidren, suspension & primobolan.  I never tried deca or winnivy becasue I never found real stuff.  Never tried GH becasue I didn't want to spend the money.  I also used clen & Triacana to cut up.  I kept dosages pretty moderate and switched stuff up every 6 weeks.  I did this for three years.  Looking back on it, it was a pretty stupid thing to do.  Hopefully I did not cause any long-term damages.   :-\

Why do you feel that this was stupid?  I have never heard of half of those drugs you mentioned, but I have been pretty curious of late.  I tried some test a while back and liked it, but doing 400 mgs of test for 8 weeks is not going to make that big of a difference.  I think??  You need other combinations
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: j3di3 on May 04, 2007, 11:44:47 AM
a few weeks after that pic was taken I took 5th or 6th (forgot now) at the 1996 LA.  Thanks.  Everyone who placed ahead of me, including Troy Alves, weighed about 198 but were like 5'7 - 5'8.  To be competitive I needed to be a heavy weight...

Thanks.  I am 5'11".  I would train a full year for each show.  I would be on for four consecutive months prior to the show starting with one AAS and ultimately stacking four.  I used basic stuff i.e. d-ball, cyp, parabolan, sustanon, omnidren, suspension & primobolan.  I never tried deca or winnivy becasue I never found real stuff.  Never tried GH becasue I didn't want to spend the money.  I also used clen & Triacana to cut up.  I kept dosages pretty moderate and switched stuff up every 6 weeks.  I did this for three years.  Looking back on it, it was a pretty stupid thing to do.  Hopefully I did not cause any long-term damages.   :-\

how much of whats on the picture is in place nowdays?
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: MindSpin on May 04, 2007, 01:11:47 PM
how much of whats on the picture is in place nowdays?

Most recent pic a few months ago: 200lbs, 17.25" arms and I'm guessing about 10%BF.  Obviously clean...
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Knives on May 04, 2007, 01:30:42 PM
Most recent pic a few months ago: 200lbs, 17.25" arms and I'm guessing about 10%BF.  Obviously clean...

looks great, considering you've been clean for 10 years, you've hardly lost size, and you kept your hair too ;D
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: MindSpin on May 04, 2007, 01:54:20 PM
looks great, considering you've been clean for 10 years, you've hardly lost size, and you kept your hair too ;D

I go up and down in size.  I've been as light as 180 and as heavy as 215.  In that pic I went from a chunky 190 to a relatively lean 200 in about 8 weeks...
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: Knives on May 05, 2007, 01:17:09 PM
I go up and down in size.  I've been as light as 180 and as heavy as 215.  In that pic I went from a chunky 190 to a relatively lean 200 in about 8 weeks...

how do you gain weight while leaning out?
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on May 06, 2007, 11:55:38 AM
Good Lord, Spin could jump on stage at any natty show and take a trophy.

After 10 yrs the trophys are a lot cooler now...those statues...I want one!!!


After 10 yrs clean, believr me thats called a natural, maybe not lifetime, but probably more of a natural than most on stage....
Title: Re: Does this guy take drugs????
Post by: War-Horse on May 12, 2007, 08:25:16 PM
Warhorse!

Be sure to keep us updated with some progress pics!!





Im much to shy..............LOL. ;D     I will in about a month.