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While there have been some top bodybuilders that enjoy decent , happy, secure lives; it seems pretty rare .???
The personal lives and finances $$$ of many that get serious and hardcore seem to suffer.
I was taking to a guy that used to seriously compete (like me). We both realized how much better our overall life and financial security was since we stopped being so serious about bodybuilding and treated it as hobby.
I love bodybuilding and still train hard, but my finances and life quality kinda sucked when I was into serious competition.
I am not sure what the reality is here ? any thoughts??
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While there have been some top bodybuilders that enjoy decent , happy, secure lives; it seems pretty rare .???
The personal lives and finances $$$ of many that get serious and hardcore seem to suffer.
I was taking to a guy that used to seriously compete (like me). We both realized how much better our overall life and financial security was since we stopped being so serious about bodybuilding and treated it as hobby.
I love bodybuilding and still train hard, but my finances and life quality kinda sucked when I was into serious competition.
I am not sure what the reality is here ? any thoughts??
You're preaching to the choir here, homey. I could write a book on this topic.
I told this story before...
Buddy of mine. 4 yrs older than me so he's about 31 now. Lives at home and never ever ever has a job or works. He is ripped/tan and shaven clean year around. Uses gear and never comes OFF. 2 years ago we drive out to the ASC and he was PISSED because..."Dude...my dad is being an asshole, man...he only gave me $100 to spend..."
Anyway...when he was 21 he took the Chicago firefighters enterence exam. His dad is a Cheif on the job so he takes the exam and last summer he comes to the gym and shows me a letter. It was a letter saying how he is being selected to continue with the hiring process and must report to the Academy in 30 days. I was estatic for him...that's the best job ever in Chicago and for a bodybuilder. Work 81 days a year? Excellent pay and benefits. He was all grim about it and said he isn't going to bother. The reason? He was prepping for the Indiana State Show and couldn't go to the Fire Academy because..."dude, fk that man...all that running and shit they do in the Academy...I'll lose muscle fk that shit no way...I sent my pictures to Beverley Int. and they're the main sponsor of the show so fk that! "
That was last summer. He ened up NOT placing or qualifying for a national level show and I bet my hairy ass right now he's at home...playing XBox waiting for me to get home so we could train.
Amazing, huh?
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You're preaching to the choir here, homey. I could write a book on this topic.
I told this story before...
Buddy of mine. 4 yrs older than me so he's about 31 now. Lives at home and never ever ever has a job or works. He is ripped/tan and shaven clean year around. Uses gear and never comes OFF. 2 years ago we drive out to the ASC and he was PISSED because..."Dude...my dad is being an asshole, man...he only gave me $100 to spend..."
Anyway...when he was 21 he took the Chicago firefighters enterence exam. His dad is a Cheif on the job so he takes the exam and last summer he comes to the gym and shows me a letter. It was a letter saying how he is being selected to continue with the hiring process and must report to the Academy in 30 days. I was estatic for him...that's the best job ever in Chicago and for a bodybuilder. Work 81 days a year? Excellent pay and benefits. He was all grim about it and said he isn't going to bother. The reason? He was prepping for the Indiana State Show and couldn't go to the Fire Academy because..."dude, fk that man...all that running and shit they do in the Academy...I'll lose muscle fk that shit no way...I sent my pictures to Beverley Int. and they're the main sponsor of the show so fk that! "
That was last summer. He ened up NOT placing or qualifying for a national level show and I bet my hairy ass right now he's at home...playing XBox waiting for me to get home so we could train.
Amazing, huh?
Why the fk are you still working out with this looser for?
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You're preaching to the choir here, homey. I could write a book on this topic.
I told this story before...
Buddy of mine. 4 yrs older than me so he's about 31 now. Lives at home and never ever ever has a job or works. He is ripped/tan and shaven clean year around. Uses gear and never comes OFF. 2 years ago we drive out to the ASC and he was PISSED because..."Dude...my dad is being an asshole, man...he only gave me $100 to spend..."
Anyway...when he was 21 he took the Chicago firefighters enterence exam. His dad is a Cheif on the job so he takes the exam and last summer he comes to the gym and shows me a letter. It was a letter saying how he is being selected to continue with the hiring process and must report to the Academy in 30 days. I was estatic for him...that's the best job ever in Chicago and for a bodybuilder. Work 81 days a year? Excellent pay and benefits. He was all grim about it and said he isn't going to bother. The reason? He was prepping for the Indiana State Show and couldn't go to the Fire Academy because..."dude, fk that man...all that running and shit they do in the Academy...I'll lose muscle fk that shit no way...I sent my pictures to Beverley Int. and they're the main sponsor of the show so fk that! "
That was last summer. He ened up NOT placing or qualifying for a national level show and I bet my hairy ass right now he's at home...playing XBox waiting for me to get home so we could train.
Amazing, huh?
That is actually really sad Block. :-\
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Why the fk are you still working out with this looser for?
He's a good training partner, that's why. I get to gym and he got the music I want playing...machines loaded up and he's already warming up.
He's contest shape year around and tan. His life is MD Magazine...XBox and his hopes "to go PRO". Funny thing is...he never qualified for a national level show. Neither have I but I'm not him. I'm just telling the story.
I spoke to him the other day and he was telling me about how he ate a whole bag of Oreo cookies and woke up in the middle of the night and was more ripped as he's ever been. That's like...a HUGE event in his day. If not that he tells me about how he got 'life immunity' in Resident Evil. I don't even play video games. He just tells me.
He think's he'll go PRO in the next 2 years. He's competing in 2 weeks in Chicago and thinks I'm a pussy for dropping out of the show due to financial and personal legal drama. Some BB's just don't get it.
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He's a good training partner, that's why. I get to gym and he got the music I want playing...machines loaded up and he's already warming up.
He's contest shape year around and tan. His life is MD Magazine...XBox and his hopes "to go PRO". Funny thing is...he never qualified for a national level show. Neither have I but I'm not him. I'm just telling the story.
I spoke to him the other day and he was telling me about how he ate a whole bag of Oreo cookies and woke up in the middle of the night and was more ripped as he's ever been. That's like...a HUGE event in his day. If not that he tells me about how he got 'life immunity' in Resident Evil. I don't even play video games. He just tells me.
He think's he'll go PRO in the next 2 years. He's competing in 2 weeks in Chicago and thinks I'm a pussy for dropping out of the show due to financial and personal legal drama. Some BB's just don't get it.
Hold old is he again?
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Hold old is he again?
31, wasn't hard to scroll back and find that out. DUH!
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2 years ago we drive out to the ASC and he was PISSED because..."Dude...my dad is being an asshole, man...he only gave me $100 to spend..."
That has to be a joke. ;D 2 years ago he would be 29, did he really say that ???
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He's a good training partner, that's why. I get to gym and he got the music I want playing...machines loaded up and he's already warming up.
He's contest shape year around and tan. His life is MD Magazine...XBox and his hopes "to go PRO". Funny thing is...he never qualified for a national level show. Neither have I but I'm not him. I'm just telling the story.
I spoke to him the other day and he was telling me about how he ate a whole bag of Oreo cookies and woke up in the middle of the night and was more ripped as he's ever been. That's like...a HUGE event in his day. If not that he tells me about how he got 'life immunity' in Resident Evil. I don't even play video games. He just tells me.
He think's he'll go PRO in the next 2 years. He's competing in 2 weeks in Chicago and thinks I'm a pussy for dropping out of the show due to financial and personal legal drama. Some BB's just don't get it.
Can you discuss your legal drama? I thought Special "Johnny Choran" Ed had your ass covered with legal issues. If you need someone to "have a talk" with a juror or witness let me know, Myself, Doughboy, Ricky, Tre, and Dooky got your back
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I talk a little about it on my 'Q&A' in the Y Boards...I spoke about it today actually.
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You're preaching to the choir here, homey. I could write a book on this topic.
I told this story before...
Buddy of mine. 4 yrs older than me so he's about 31 now. Lives at home and never ever ever has a job or works. He is ripped/tan and shaven clean year around. Uses gear and never comes OFF. 2 years ago we drive out to the ASC and he was PISSED because..."Dude...my dad is being an asshole, man...he only gave me $100 to spend..."
Anyway...when he was 21 he took the Chicago firefighters enterence exam. His dad is a Cheif on the job so he takes the exam and last summer he comes to the gym and shows me a letter. It was a letter saying how he is being selected to continue with the hiring process and must report to the Academy in 30 days. I was estatic for him...that's the best job ever in Chicago and for a bodybuilder. Work 81 days a year? Excellent pay and benefits. He was all grim about it and said he isn't going to bother. The reason? He was prepping for the Indiana State Show and couldn't go to the Fire Academy because..."dude, fk that man...all that running and shit they do in the Academy...I'll lose muscle fk that shit no way...I sent my pictures to Beverley Int. and they're the main sponsor of the show so fk that! "
That was last summer. He ened up NOT placing or qualifying for a national level show and I bet my hairy ass right now he's at home...playing XBox waiting for me to get home so we could train.
Amazing, huh?
A post of yours I agree with. :D 8)
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You're preaching to the choir here, homey. I could write a book on this topic.
I told this story before...
Buddy of mine. 4 yrs older than me so he's about 31 now. Lives at home and never ever ever has a job or works. He is ripped/tan and shaven clean year around. Uses gear and never comes OFF. 2 years ago we drive out to the ASC and he was PISSED because..."Dude...my dad is being an asshole, man...he only gave me $100 to spend..."
Anyway...when he was 21 he took the Chicago firefighters enterence exam. His dad is a Cheif on the job so he takes the exam and last summer he comes to the gym and shows me a letter. It was a letter saying how he is being selected to continue with the hiring process and must report to the Academy in 30 days. I was estatic for him...that's the best job ever in Chicago and for a bodybuilder. Work 81 days a year? Excellent pay and benefits. He was all grim about it and said he isn't going to bother. The reason? He was prepping for the Indiana State Show and couldn't go to the Fire Academy because..."dude, fk that man...all that running and shit they do in the Academy...I'll lose muscle fk that shit no way...I sent my pictures to Beverley Int. and they're the main sponsor of the show so fk that! "
That was last summer. He ened up NOT placing or qualifying for a national level show and I bet my hairy ass right now he's at home...playing XBox waiting for me to get home so we could train.
Amazing, huh?
thats really tragic.
How does his parents put up with him. why dont they kick him out? that would teach him to get a job..
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He's a good training partner, that's why. I get to gym and he got the music I want playing...machines loaded up and he's already warming up.
He's contest shape year around and tan. His life is MD Magazine...XBox and his hopes "to go PRO". Funny thing is...he never qualified for a national level show. Neither have I but I'm not him. I'm just telling the story.
I spoke to him the other day and he was telling me about how he ate a whole bag of Oreo cookies and woke up in the middle of the night and was more ripped as he's ever been. That's like...a HUGE event in his day. If not that he tells me about how he got 'life immunity' in Resident Evil. I don't even play video games. He just tells me.
He think's he'll go PRO in the next 2 years. He's competing in 2 weeks in Chicago and thinks I'm a pussy for dropping out of the show due to financial and personal legal drama. Some BB's just don't get it.
I can't even begin to tell ya the number of "gym bums" I have known over the years. Man, blockhead I loved reading your story on this loser and cracked up when I read he loved video games as well hehehe.
I was a pseudo gym buddy with guy in La, that had some potential and won a qualifier, etc. We can call him "joe Blow or JB" (not his real name dah ;) JB didn't work or even train anyone as his wife had a good career and worshiped him.
His parents all but bought his house when they got married. He had kids but sponged off his wife who even bought his drugs . He won his class in a decent sized regional qualifier as a HVY wt around 210. He was on a LOT of sauce and HGH but didn't do well at his first attempt at a nation level show, so he quit the sport, that same year. He was an ok guy, but pretty self absorbed and arrogant when he competed. Now he has a decent career going, still works out but seems a lot happier overall.
I can tell ya that when I was in the "pro card" mind set 20 yeas ago, I had a pretty UNstable life. I had just gotten out of the USMC and worked evenings as a bouncer in Fayetteville, NC. I had no health ins., credit card or bank account, etc. I had a junky car and lived in a run down , tiny 1 BR eff apt. I did very moderate amounts of juice and did ok in some regional shows. After 3 years of this "LIFE" and seeing no viable future, I got married ( 1st wife, I have been married twice , just divocred # 2) moved to KY in 1987 , went back to school to finish my first degree , a BS chemistry and teaching certificate at Morehead State. Graduated Magna Cum Laude , and started full time teaching in '89. Life has been fun, secure and stable ever since. I returned to doing bodybuilding contests after divorcing my 1st wife in 93 and competed without drugs for 2 more years. Since 95 I have only judged , worked out and been a fan. As you may know I got divorced (again) last fall and was lucky enough to meet BETH, my present girlfriend.
One personal insight, from my experience, if you don't want kids (or have kids), you may not have much incentive to stay married after 5 yrs or so. I don't want kids nor do I have any. Both my ex wifes were classy, smart ladies and the marriages were good for a few years. Hard to say why we drifted apart in either marriage, it might just be a natural progression...who knows ???
Howard
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damn Howie you're a teacher? man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you must make a whopping 38,500 a year. :o
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Dysfunctional 'sport' (and I use the term loosley) = Dsyfunctional 'athletes' (again using the term very loosley) ...
What do you call 150 insecure men in an auditorium ?
The Colorado Pro
wooooooooooooshhhhhhhh
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Ive always hated the obsessive mindset you need to compete..its always whats my next meal...what do i train to day...how do i look today???
Thats why ive been in offseason mode for 10 yrs!!! 8)
Of course now im obsessive again since im a fatty!! :'(
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damn Howie you're a teacher? man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you must make a whopping 38,500 a year. :o
LOL, it was like that at first, in fact for my first few years in La it was LESS than that. Now with a PhD and 18 yrs experience in a metro ATL district, it is honestly about dbl what you posted. No biggy, even at that level I am way behind top paying prof like law and medicine.
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damn Howie you're a teacher? man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you must make a whopping 38,500 a year. :o
Ok Howard Hughes ::)
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Dysfunctional 'sport' (and I use the term loosley) = Dsyfunctional 'athletes' (again using the term very loosley) ...
What do you call 150 insecure men in an auditorium ?
The Colorado Pro
wooooooooooooshhhhhhhh
I don't think it matters what it is- anything that takes over your whole life is going to mess you up. It's not just bodybuilders- look at any pro sport, acting, whatever- if you have nothing else in life you care about, you get weird.
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He's a good training partner, that's why. I get to gym and he got the music I want playing...machines loaded up and he's already warming up.
He's contest shape year around and tan. His life is MD Magazine...XBox and his hopes "to go PRO". Funny thing is...he never qualified for a national level show. Neither have I but I'm not him. I'm just telling the story.
I spoke to him the other day and he was telling me about how he ate a whole bag of Oreo cookies and woke up in the middle of the night and was more ripped as he's ever been. That's like...a HUGE event in his day. If not that he tells me about how he got 'life immunity' in Resident Evil. I don't even play video games. He just tells me.
He think's he'll go PRO in the next 2 years. He's competing in 2 weeks in Chicago and thinks I'm a pussy for dropping out of the show due to financial and personal legal drama. Some BB's just don't get it.
you speak highly of your friend maybe hes not really in contest shape though? pics pics?
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LOL, it was like that at first, in fact for my first few years in La it was LESS than that. Now with a PhD and 18 yrs experience in a metro ATL district, it is honestly about dbl what you posted. No biggy, even at that level I am way behind top paying prof like law and medicine.
PhD in chemistry?
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While there have been some top bodybuilders that enjoy decent , happy, secure lives; it seems pretty rare .???
The personal lives and finances $$$ of many that get serious and hardcore seem to suffer.
I was taking to a guy that used to seriously compete (like me). We both realized how much better our overall life and financial security was since we stopped being so serious about bodybuilding and treated it as hobby.
I love bodybuilding and still train hard, but my finances and life quality kinda sucked when I was into serious competition.
I am not sure what the reality is here ? any thoughts??
Simple. In order to be a Bodybuilder ( one that competes seriously ) you have to, to some extent, have an obsessive personality amongst other things. When your so concentrated on one thing ( in this case, Bodybuilding ) nothing else matters in life ... or as much, anyways. When I was competing seriously I had Money going all over the place ( Supplements, Food, Misc. needed for a Bodybuilding competiton ) except where it REALLY NEEDED to go ( Bills ). Being a Bodybuilder you are unable to really interact with the outside World, in the conventional sense, because compared to the outside World you are " Weird " ... you are " Disfunctional ", in a way. You have to accept the fact, as a Bodybuilder, that your Normal time WILL BE restricted. Now, I can't speak for everyone ... only myself and those around me that competed.
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Ronnie had a real job before he made it big, and even a few years into his reign as Mr.O (I think)
Why can't all these amateurs or even other pros with financial difficulties get a side job?
Blockhead: That's a crazy story. If you were a real friend you'd kick your training partner in the ass. With a steel-toed boot.
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Good topic! I live the "bodybuilder lifestyle" now and I have to admit that extra cash is non existent but I still maintain my household. The "dysfunction" doesn't just lie with bodybuilders though, forclosures are at the highest they've ever been in this great land of ours and I'm sure they are not all bodybuilders.
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I guess what I dont get is why people aspiring to be bodybuilders or most pros don't have real jobs. I think that most pros probably train 2 hours or less a day. Some like atwood, cutler..... train twice a day, but the ones who train once a day have no reason to not also have a regular job. I dont see why working from 8-4 then training would be a problem. I know dieting can be a bitch when you have a normal job, but its only really bad for the last 4 weeks or so. Also, last time I checked, Niether the IFBB or NPC have great benefits packages ???
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Most bodybuilders have as much brain as a cake.
When your whole life cycles around the size of your arms and how much steroids you have to inject when and what medication you have to take to fight the sides plus all the fuzz about getting EXCATLY 23.5 g of protein at a certain time there no time for a decent job or the "fine arts".
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He's a good training partner, that's why. I get to gym and he got the music I want playing...machines loaded up and he's already warming up.
He's contest shape year around and tan. His life is MD Magazine...XBox and his hopes "to go PRO". Funny thing is...he never qualified for a national level show. Neither have I but I'm not him. I'm just telling the story.
I spoke to him the other day and he was telling me about how he ate a whole bag of Oreo cookies and woke up in the middle of the night and was more ripped as he's ever been. That's like...a HUGE event in his day. If not that he tells me about how he got 'life immunity' in Resident Evil. I don't even play video games. He just tells me.
He think's he'll go PRO in the next 2 years. He's competing in 2 weeks in Chicago and thinks I'm a pussy for dropping out of the show due to financial and personal legal drama. Some BB's just don't get it.
Your friend sounds retarded.
Maybe the parents know that, and is taking care of and protectin their retarded son.
10y old children talks about Life immunity on resident evil.
You dont find it difficult hanging out with a retarded friend?
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stupid fucker not to take the fire fighter jobb. Its the perfect jobb for a bodybuilder. 1/10 of the time they do nothing and half of the time its fake calls just someone smoking inside...
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Most bodybuilders have as much brain as a cake.
When your whole life cycles around the size of your arms and how much steroids you have to inject when and what medication you have to take to fight the sides plus all the fuzz about getting EXCATLY 23.5 g of protein at a certain time there no time for a decent job or the "fine arts".
HAHA - i think we have hit the nail on the head guys !! F uckin wierdos !! :)
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well, I Praise those bodybuilders outthere who can hold a professional career and bodybuilds at the same time. it pays to be a smart bodybuilder. I think there are a handfull of them on the Pro circuit
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PhD in chemistry?
BS Chemistry, MS in physics my doctorate is in science education.
Bodybuilding is a fun activity but trying to make a a "life" and/or living around it can be a recipe for disaster in my opinion.
The old pros like Sergio Olivia worked jobs and made $$$$$ .
I think that pro wannabees that live at home and sponge off parents or girlfriends are lazy and lacking in character.
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hahahahaha, another internet PhD. ::)
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Your friend sounds retarded.
Maybe the parents know that, and is taking care of and protectin their retarded son.
10y old children talks about Life immunity on resident evil.
You dont find it difficult hanging out with a retarded friend?
I don't necessairly HANG OUT with him or anybody. I never 'hang out'. Ever. He's just one of my meathed gym buddies. He always got extra clen or gear laying around and he's a good training partner. For example...
"..awww man, after work I gotta pick up Mrs BlockHead cuz her car's in the shop...I won't be at the gym until around 9:30pm, bro...I'll just meet up with you tomorrow..."
'..Naaaa, that's cool...I'll be there at 9:30...take your time.'
I didn't see him last night because I went to a different gym and he won't go to that particular gym because he's ducking some guys as he owes them money. Has to do with gear and FRONTING. Typical BBer.
His parents have money. Dad is a fire cheif and his mom does real estate I think. I guess they don't care. I don't know. He's been like this for years. He's doing a show in a couple weeks I'll try to get pics of him and POST them. It's amazing. He'll go to a show and get autographs from PROS signed to him and I go over to his crib and they'll be pinned to his bedroom wall. Hahaha...
He 100% believes he will go PRO within the next 2 years...get a supplement contract and make money. He sent his pics to that MD Cyber contest but didn't get picked. He sends his pics to Optimum, Beverley, NOW, ErgoPharm etc...nothing happens. I explain even if a company wanted his images...what will he get besides a few free jugs of protein powder? He says..."No dude...once I get that I can afford IGF and more Gh then when I qualify for Nationals and if I take top 5 or something...then I can break in the magazines and then my name will get out there so then..."
Hahaha. He's a trip. He's like a walking JERRY SPRINGER show. I talk to him and afterwards I dont feel so bad.
I bet if I call him right now...he's either sleeping or he's watching a BB dvd or something or playing XBOX with the faint sound of TuPac in the backround. WAITING for me to come to the gym tonite.
Know what's funny? When I go to different gyms he won't go and get's mad. "Awww come on man...I got a killer shoulder routine planned bro, I was reading that Charles Glass has his guys like hold their pinky finger down like pouring water out of a pitcher, you know...so it's supposed to hit the side delt better so I want to try those tonite...fk that gym man...that place sucks. Come to PUMPS tonite...I'll throw you some winny tabs I got..."
He tries bribing me. Hahaha..
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I don't necessairly HANG OUT with him or anybody. I never 'hang out'. Ever. He's just one of my meathed gym buddies. He always got extra clen or gear laying around and he's a good training partner. For example...
"..awww man, after work I gotta pick up Mrs BlockHead cuz her car's in the shop...I won't be at the gym until around 9:30pm, bro...I'll just meet up with you tomorrow..."
'..Naaaa, that's cool...I'll be there at 9:30...take your time.'
I didn't see him last night because I went to a different gym and he won't go to that particular gym because he's ducking some guys as he owes them money. Has to do with gear and FRONTING. Typical BBer.
His parents have money. Dad is a fire cheif and his mom does real estate I think. I guess they don't care. I don't know. He's been like this for years. He's doing a show in a couple weeks I'll try to get pics of him and POST them. It's amazing. He'll go to a show and get autographs from PROS signed to him and I go over to his crib and they'll be pinned to his bedroom wall. Hahaha...
He 100% believes he will go PRO within the next 2 years...get a supplement contract and make money. He sent his pics to that MD Cyber contest but didn't get picked. He sends his pics to Optimum, Beverley, NOW, ErgoPharm etc...nothing happens. I explain even if a company wanted his images...what will he get besides a few free jugs of protein powder? He says..."No dude...once I get that I can afford IGF and more Gh then when I qualify for Nationals and if I take top 5 or something...then I can break in the magazines and then my name will get out there so then..."
Hahaha. He's a trip. He's like a walking JERRY SPRINGER show. I talk to him and afterwards I dont feel so bad.
I bet if I call him right now...he's either sleeping or he's watching a BB dvd or something or playing XBOX with the faint sound of TuPac in the backround. WAITING for me to come to the gym tonite.
Know what's funny? When I go to different gyms he won't go and get's mad. "Awww come on man...I got a killer shoulder routine planned bro, I was reading that Charles Glass has his guys like hold their pinky finger down like pouring water out of a pitcher, you know...so it's supposed to hit the side delt better so I want to try those tonite...fk that gym man...that place sucks. Come to PUMPS tonite...I'll throw you some winny tabs I got..."
He tries bribing me. Hahaha..
are you sure he doesnt read getbig?
i would guess most bb'ers reads either on getbig or musclemayhem.
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I'm not a psychiatrist, but I'd guess the guy who won't take a job because he might miss a workout has an obsessive/compulsive disorder. If not that, something else that could use some treatment. He will be doing exactly the same thing 20 years from now unless something forces him not to.
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While there have been some top bodybuilders that enjoy decent , happy, secure lives; it seems pretty rare .???
The personal lives and finances $$$ of many that get serious and hardcore seem to suffer.
I was taking to a guy that used to seriously compete (like me). We both realized how much better our overall life and financial security was since we stopped being so serious about bodybuilding and treated it as hobby.
I love bodybuilding and still train hard, but my finances and life quality kinda sucked when I was into serious competition.
I am not sure what the reality is here ? any thoughts??
Did you mean dysfuntional? As in abnormal? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Did you mean dysfuntional? As in abnormal? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Or dysfuctional?
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I'm not a psychiatrist, but I'd guess the guy who won't take a job because he might miss a workout has an obsessive/compulsive disorder. If not that, something else that could use some treatment. He will be doing exactly the same thing 20 years from now unless something forces him not to.
"Obsessive/compulsive disorder" is a little too extreme, i'd rather call it a form of "addiction" or "bad excuse to work". Otherwise yes agreed dude.
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Or dysfuctional?
Or disfictional?
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While there have been some top bodybuilders that enjoy decent , happy, secure lives; it seems pretty rare .???
The personal lives and finances $$$ of many that get serious and hardcore seem to suffer.
I was taking to a guy that used to seriously compete (like me). We both realized how much better our overall life and financial security was since we stopped being so serious about bodybuilding and treated it as hobby.
I love bodybuilding and still train hard, but my finances and life quality kinda sucked when I was into serious competition.
I am not sure what the reality is here ? any thoughts??
I was just thinking about this today. I was thinking what it was about Gunter's personality that everyone seems to love. It's not what Gunter IS, but what is ISN'T. He ISN'T insecure and unhappy and unstable and etc. He's just a normal happy guy who has a stable life that he enjoys. In addition to that, being good looking helps of course, but the main reason he is so well received is for all the bad things he is not.
I think the reason why most pros don't fit this category is because it takes a certain type of extreme personality to become a pro. It was the same inclination for recreational drug abuse which allowed Tom Prince to abuse performance enhancing drugs to the extent he did to achieve success as a pro. What he had was, as someone put it, CRAZY. The ability to get through intense workouts in the gym as he destroyed his joints and tendons.
It's kind of like looking at geniuses: there is a greater percentage of geniuses who have all forms of mental illness because the same powerful minds which resulted in that high IQ resulted in other brain activity as well which was not always for the best. Or think of extremely religious people: they are more likely to do all types of irrational things - the same irrationality which made them extremely religious also affects other areas of their life. So really, it's that it takes a certain type of person to become a pro. You need to be willing to dedicate an abundance of time and money to something that gives little back - you need to risk your health and make a lot of sacrifices. These same personality traits will extend to other areas such as poor financial planning and poor relationships and so on.
Of course, like anything in life, there are exceptions, but I can objectively tell you that I feel the stereotype of a bodybuilder is very true. Most stereotypes are accurate generalizations. When I went to the Arnold Classic, people were asking me if I was competing in it lol. Proof of what the general populace considers "built" - and I definitely don't hold it against anyone to think of me as a meathead. From my observation, that is generally pretty accurate amongst bodybuilders. Bodybuilding doesn't make a person dumb, but more than likely dumb people will train to make up for something else.
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Obviously there are idiots and geniuses in every field. Get out of your little insecure box.
For example, I was really impressed with Silvio's intelligence (he went to a university on scholarship for Aeronautical Engineering). And trained a bit with Mike (a national level competitor) who has a masters in Engineering.
I can easily say the same about high school teachers (why so many disfunctional high school teachers?). Give me a fucken break -- those losers get 3 months off each year and bitch and moan about how hard they've got it. ::) My high school physics teacher was originally one of the PE teachers -- hadn't a clue about physics. Biggest bonehead I've ever met...and I was only 17. I could go on...want me to continue?
By "DYSFUNCTIONAL" I mean in terms of a consistant, stable life . Things like a home, stable career, health coverage and retirement, etc. I won't teachers here as I have worked with some lousy and lazy ones, that is for sure. The point is that as a teacher, you still have a stable career with bennefits. Granted it can be dull like most typical careers, but, it is stable. The PE teacher , who taught physics was WRONG. That is the schools fault and EVERY teacher should be fully qualified to teach their subject or they have no business in front of a classroom.
Having said that, I love teaching and feel I do some small measure to make a difference in a few kids each year.
I don't need to even bother defending the field of education, it is one of the foundations of every society in the world.
Bodybuilding is a great sport and I love it. I just think that as a carrer pursuit, it is losing proposition for 99% of those that try. Some top guys like Jay Cutler seem to be pretty balanced guys with stable lives. I think he is the exception rather than the rule however.
Howard
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You're preaching to the choir here, homey. I could write a book on this topic.
I told this story before...
Buddy of mine. 4 yrs older than me so he's about 31 now. Lives at home and never ever ever has a job or works. He is ripped/tan and shaven clean year around. Uses gear and never comes OFF. 2 years ago we drive out to the ASC and he was PISSED because..."Dude...my dad is being an asshole, man...he only gave me $100 to spend..."
Anyway...when he was 21 he took the Chicago firefighters enterence exam. His dad is a Cheif on the job so he takes the exam and last summer he comes to the gym and shows me a letter. It was a letter saying how he is being selected to continue with the hiring process and must report to the Academy in 30 days. I was estatic for him...that's the best job ever in Chicago and for a bodybuilder. Work 81 days a year? Excellent pay and benefits. He was all grim about it and said he isn't going to bother. The reason? He was prepping for the Indiana State Show and couldn't go to the Fire Academy because..."dude, fk that man...all that running and shit they do in the Academy...I'll lose muscle fk that shit no way...I sent my pictures to Beverley Int. and they're the main sponsor of the show so fk that! "
That was last summer. He ened up NOT placing or qualifying for a national level show and I bet my hairy ass right now he's at home...playing XBox waiting for me to get home so we could train.
Amazing, huh?
I think I remember you posting that story awhile back.....it was even funnier and more pathetic this time around.
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I think I remember you posting that story awhile back.....it was even funnier and more pathetic this time around.
I agree, and the thing is I bet we all know some guy that is like that to some degree.
I just laugh at that kind of bodybuilder and am glad I don't have their life LOL
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BS Chemistry, MS in physics my doctorate is in science education.
Great work man!