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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Matt C on May 05, 2007, 03:52:08 AM
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Mike produced the DVD, "Raising the Bar" featuring his brother Dave, who is a top amateur competitor who I think will very likely turn pro at the North American championships this year by winning the Masters heavyweight class and overall.
INTERVIEWS WITH DAVE AND MIKE:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/davepulcinellainterview05052007.html
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mikepulcinellainterview05052007.html
RTB1 VIDEO PREVIEW:
RTB2 VIDEO PREVIEW:
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/davepulcinella/1.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/davepulcinella/cool-pic.-me-mike.jpg)
I'd say Dave's chances of turning pro at the Master's North American championships is pretty high. What do you guys say?
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I say Dave's shorts almost look like a skirt in that first pic.
Dave you look awesome!!! :)
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I say Dave's shorts almost look like a skirt in that first pic.
HAHAHA...sorry, Dave. But that was a bit funny. :D
Best of luck to you, brother! 8)
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Good luck Dave. Looking large..................a s usual. ;D
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my Lord!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Dave was doing flat db presses with 90's and behind the neck db extensions with a 65 pound db!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
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my Lord!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Dave was doing flat db presses with 90's and behind the neck db extensions with a 65 pound db!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
I guess that is why they say he is raising the bar??
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Great stuff ...........both Dave and Mike = great guys!
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I guess that is why they say he is raising the bar??
hahahah, you would destroy this clown in the gym Alexxx, he's got no heart and he's all drugs.
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hahahah, you would destroy this clown in the gym Alexxx, he's got no heart and he's all drugs.
He has terrible form. I can't believe my eyes!
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hmm seems like an informative video...
not a strong guy though...
so big yet so weak...
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hmm seems like an informative video...
not a strong guy though...
so big yet so weak...
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I didn't see the video but maybe he use a lot of slow rep or giant sets ?
usually I never put more than 180 lbs on the bench for my workouts, yesterday I went a little heavier and I sets of 8 reps with 275 lbs and my chest is WAY less sore than usually
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watch the video..
he"s using weights i was using after my first 9 monthsno say a year of training . particularly the tricep extensions...
also take into consideration the size of this guy..and obviosly the food and drug intake....
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nop, honestly I don't see anything bad about his training style exept the shitty form on the lat pull down
most huge dudes at my gym train this way too
we got a 6'4 290 lbs dude who is getting ready for the Mr.Quebec and he never complained that we only have 120's dumbells.
bodybuilding isn't about strenght IMO, I am pretty sure that if Dave wanted to do a very simple set of 8 reps on a given exercise, he would be pretty strong
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watch the video..
he"s using weights i was using after my first 9 monthsno say a year of training . particularly the tricep extensions...
also take into consideration the size of this guy..and obviosly the food and drug intake....
exactly Meso all bullshit aside i'll gaurantee that you could wipe the floor with this guy training wise and you don't even compete.
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exactly Meso all bullshit aside i'll gaurantee that you could wipe the floor with this guy training wise and you don't even compete.
lol!!! boy, it really didnt take you long to chime in, did it?!?! and to think, i actually used to care about your opinion before i saw pictures of your big, fat, bloated, cellulite ridden, estrogen riddled, gyno sporting, potato chip eating ass!!!
by the way, all of those workout clips in this video were filmed about 4-5 weeks out of my show. i am capable of lifting much more weight than whats shown, but whats the point?!?!? those clips are an accurate representation of how i train right before a show. it is what it is....thats what i lift...so what!??!
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I didn't see the video but maybe he use a lot of slow rep or giant sets ?
usually I never put more than 180 lbs on the bench for my workouts, yesterday I went a little heavier and I sets of 8 reps with 275 lbs and my chest is WAY less sore than usually
exactly.....thank you. why is the amount of weight i use the sole focus here?
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lol!!! boy, it really didnt take you long to chime in, did it?!?! and to think, i actually used to care about your opinion before i saw pictures of your big, fat, bloated, cellulite ridden, estrogen riddled, gyno sporting, potato chip eating ass!!!
by the way, all of those workout clips in this video were filmed about 4-5 weeks out of my show. i am capable of lifting much more weight than whats shown, but whats the point?!?!? those clips are an accurate representation of how i train right before a show. it is what it is....thats what i lift...so what!??!
you're weak as a baby kitten.
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exactly.....thank you. why is the amount of weight i use the sole focus here?
.. wsup man.. is that you in the clips... cool...
i am in no way direscpting you... at all
but it comes with the territory....
whenever i watch a bb video i always look at the weight that is used as a means to inspire me to lift even heavier...
so far ionly a few have really blown me away namely coleman ... levrone... comier..and jay in some respect..
for me its all about strenght...not how strong one looks...
coleman deadlifetd 800 five weeks out..
and thats how i train.. heavy all the time...
but then again i am not a bb
8) 8) 8)
i have over a 17 bb dvd's all to be inspired...
it may seem crude but i am sure when a lot of people watch bb dvd's that what they watch it for to be inspired.
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.. wsup man.. is that you in the clips... cool...
i am in no way direscpting you... at all
but it comes with the territory....
whenever i watch a bb video i always look at the weight that is used as a means to inspire me to lift even heavier...
so far ionly a few have really blown me away namely coleman ... levrone... comier..and jay in some respect..
for me its all about strenght...not how strong one looks...
coleman deadlifetd 800 five weeks out..
and thats how i train.. heavy all the time...
but then again i am not a bb
8) 8) 8)
i have over a 17 bb dvd's all to be inspired...
it may seem crude but i am sure when a lot of people watch bb dvd's that what they watch it for to be inspired.
Well said meso but you have to remember not all bodybuilders are good role models.
This Mike Pulcinella looks like he has a lot of heart but just does not want to really learn to better himself.
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those are fair statements ,bro. but, for me, its NEVER been about what i can and cannot DO in the gym. i suppose if i had never competed, then i may have placed more importance on how much weight i move in the gym as a way of gauging progress. i totally get that. but the OPPOSITE is true for me. i do what i do in the gym solely to LOOK a certain way on a certain day. thats it!!! thats all. its all about that one day, those few minutes onstage...and coming away the winner! ...and to do that, i also need to stay injury free..so therein lies another reason for my training style.
after being in the gym for almost 30 years, ive learned to accept and respect so many various training styles and philosophies, even when they are opposed to my own...if they serve a purpose.
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point taken man...
those are fair points..
as i digressed earlier..
i am not a bodybuilder...
just a recreational lifter...
8)
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exactly Meso all bullshit aside i'll gaurantee that you could wipe the floor with this guy training wise and you don't even compete.
Once again SF, you've shown you don't know anything about BB when you say stuff like that. It's a very adolescent attitude. The only thing that matters in BB is how you look on stage.
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nop, honestly I don't see anything bad about his training style exept the shitty form on the lat pull down
Yet, somehow he has big lats. You think maybe he knows something you don't know?
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If this makes any sense Agent001 has decided to throw his 2 cents in...
I know Dave would much rather look like he can bench press 500 rather then doing so...
Big difference between bodybuilding and powerlifting...
More importantly you know deep down inside you are not a pimple on Pulcinella's ass so...
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Dave knows he's going to get some of the lunatic fringe on this board. We're lucky he will still continue to post here. We're looking forward to RTB II. & we are wishing Dave the best of luck at the North American Masters this year. Pix of him from the 2006 Masters Nationals are now appearing on Repetrope & USA Muscle websites.
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Yet, somehow he has big lats. You think maybe he knows something you don't know?
dont fully agree with your coment there...
that could be down to genetics...
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Yet, somehow he has big lats. You think maybe he knows something you don't know?
hey where did I say that he didn't have big lats ? :)
Dude has a great physique that's for sure
but if I did my lat pull down that way, i'd have even shittier lats than I have now ;D
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As far as I'm concerned, forget training for strength! I am trying solely to gain muscle tissue from this point on! I was doing 315 pound bench presses for reps and almost 400 for negatives at a body weight below 200 and did that do anything at all for my chest? Now that I am focusing more on the squeeze and the pump, my chest is finally starting to grow! And I could probably only bench 225 for 12-15 these days, compared to 18 before.
The only exercise I want to get strong on these days is the DEADLIFT. It's one exercise I find that lifting heavy does indeed most efficiently result in gaining muscle mass for the back. I will realistically hit a 475 deadlift this year, but I'm aiming for 500 anyway. I think in general, strength training is not the most efficient way to gain muscle. Even Cutler was only deadlifting 495 for reps in his videos at the most and look at his back - most muscular back on earth.
As for Dave...
Epic shit form. ;D
(http://www.geocities.com/ramificatio/LookMa.JPG)
My question would be: would training with better form really help Dave? ??? Truth of the matter is, ALL pro bodybuilders and top amateurs train a little differently and ALL of them are world class. Bodybuilding is not an exact science! Dave has found what works for him, so all the power to him. He is 42 and is responding better to bodybuilding than he ever has, and is huge. He's starting to make me think that extreme dedication can work for everyone since he claims he is not among the genetically elite. That is motivation for me - better than seeing some freak like Ronnie Coleman eating haphazardly at the steakhouse and still being huge and strong. I am more motivated seeing people maximize their genetic potential as Dave has. Just my opinion.
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hey where did I say that he didn't have big lats ? :)
Dude has a great physique that's for sure
but if I did my lat pull down that way, i'd have even shittier lats than I have now ;D
Are you sure? Maybe you should try it.
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Are you sure? Maybe you should try it.
I trained that way when I first started and I didn't grow for shit
but Jay Cutler trains this way too, using a lot of momentum so it is different for everyone
I personally hate using "heavy weight", I have less of a pump, less results too
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As far as I'm concerned, forget training for strength! I am trying solely to gain muscle tissue from this point on! I was doing 315 pound bench presses for reps and almost 400 for negatives at a body weight below 200 and did that do anything at all for my chest? Now that I am focusing more on the squeeze and the pump, my chest is finally starting to grow! And I could probably only bench 225 for 12-15 these days, compared to 18 before.
The only exercise I want to get strong on these days is the DEADLIFT. It's one exercise I find that lifting heavy does indeed most efficiently result in gaining muscle mass for the back. I will realistically hit a 475 deadlift this year, but I'm aiming for 500 anyway. I think in general, strength training is not the most efficient way to gain muscle. Even Cutler was only deadlifting 495 for reps in his videos at the most and look at his back - most muscular back on earth.
As for Dave...
Epic shit form. ;D
(http://www.geocities.com/ramificatio/LookMa.JPG)
My question would be: would training with better form really help Dave? ??? Truth of the matter is, ALL pro bodybuilders and top amateurs train a little differently and ALL of them are world class. Bodybuilding is not an exact science! Dave has found what works for him, so all the power to him. He is 42 and is responding better to bodybuilding than he ever has, and is huge. He's starting to make me think that extreme dedication can work for everyone since he claims he is not among the genetically elite. That is motivation for me - better than seeing some freak like Ronnie Coleman eating haphazardly at the steakhouse and still being huge and strong. I am more motivated seeing people maximize their genetic potential as Dave has. Just my opinion.
excellent points...all of them, matt! just yesterday, a young local bodybuilder walked into the gym where i have my office. the last i had seen him was about 9 months ago. he had been getting ready for the delaware state bb'in show...then dropped out of site. when i saw him yesterday, i asked him where he had dissappeared to. he said at about 5 weeks out from the show, he was trying to bench 465 and tore his pec right off the bone. i could see the disfiguration THROUGH HIS SHIRT!! it looked horrible. now he can hardy do any chest work and his competitive career is over before it even started! is it worth it?? i think not. it is NOT necessary to bench 400-500 lbs to have big pecs!! theres a reason im still able to train and compete after 30 years in the gym.
as far as my "dedication" goes...im made fun of all the time because i dont leave my house for 20 weeks up to a show ( except to go to the gym) its just how i do it. i do not drink 1 single alcoholic beverage. i do not go out to a club..or party...or family gathering..or any event that would put me in a situation that takes me away from my routine in any way. i dont not eat restaurant food. i drink nothing but water...nothing...for 20 weeks. etc etc etc. why do i do it like that??? because thats what I MUST do to win. my genetics are not all that, so i lock in to the most highly calculated and regimented routine i can muster. just TODAY i had victor del campo making fun of me and asking me why i cant just go out to club with him tonight and get drunk. HE IS COMPETING IN THE USA'S A FULL 2 MONTHS BEFORE MY SHOW!!! he will do shit like that till the last 4 weeks, then pull some work out of his ass and get by and place top 5 in the welters...does it every year!! you know what...even if i COULD do that and get away with...i just wouldnt!
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excellent points...all of them, matt! just yesterday, a young local bodybuilder walked into the gym where i have my office. the last i had seen him was about 9 months ago. he had been getting ready for the delaware state bb'in show...then dropped out of site. when i saw him yesterday, i asked him where he had dissappeared to. he said at about 5 weeks out from the show, he was trying to bench 465 and tore his pec right off the bone. i could see the disfiguration THROUGH HIS SHIRT!! it looked horrible. now he can hardy do any chest work and his competitive career is over before it even started! is it worth it?? i think not. it is NOT necessary to bench 400-500 lbs to have big pecs!! theres a reason im still able to train and compete after 30 years in the gym.
as far as my "dedication" goes...im made fun of all the time because i dont leave my house for 20 weeks up to a show ( except to go to the gym) its just how i do it. i do not drink 1 single alcoholic beverage. i do not go out to a club..or party...or family gathering..or any event that would put me in a situation that takes me away from my routine in any way. i dont not eat restaurant food. i drink nothing but water...nothing...for 20 weeks. etc etc etc. why do i do it like that??? because thats what I MUST do to win. my genetics are not all that, so i lock in to the most highly calculated and regimented routine i can muster. just TODAY i had victor del campo making fun of me and asking me why i cant just go out to club with him tonight and get drunk. HE IS COMPETING IN THE USA'S A FULL 2 MONTHS BEFORE MY SHOW!!! he will do shit like that till the last 4 weeks, then pull some work out of his ass and get by and place top 5 in the welters...does it every year!! you know what...even if i COULD do that and get away with...i just wouldnt!
wanna go get drunk tonight Dave? we can grab some White Castle if we don't find any bitches to slip some roofies to.
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exellent point Dave
I am built on a cat frame to I am always worried when I go too heavy, I fear a mucle tear
for the past months I have been training Milos Style and I like it very much
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wanna go get drunk tonight Dave? we can grab some White Castle if we don't find any bitches to slip some roofies to.
LMAO!!!!
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exellent point Dave
I am built on a cat frame to I am always worried when I go too heavy, I fear a mucle tear
for the past months I have been training Milos Style and I like it very much
not sure what "milos style" is, but im assuming its higher volume, less weight? trust me, youll get more out of that. you know whats funny is that all of that training footage of me is all high volume stuff taken out of context. squadfather makes fun of my 90 lb flat presses, yet they were being done as part of a drop set...20 reps with the 90's, drop to 60's. theres no way for the viewer to know that. same goes for my 60 lb overhead dumbell tri extensions. i was dropping from the 100's for 30 reps...down to the 60-70 for whatever i can get. i guess thats just not hard core enough for the marshmallow man!!...lol!!
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not sure what "milos style" is, but im assuming its higher volume, less weight? trust me, youll get more out of that. you know whats funny is that all of that training footage of me is all high volume stuff taken out of context. squadfather makes fun of my 90 lb flat presses, yet they were being done as part of a drop set...20 reps with the 90's, drop to 60's. theres no way for the viewer to know that. same goes for my 60 lb overhead dumbell tri extensions. i was dropping from the 100's for 30 reps...down to the 60-70 for whatever i can get. i guess thats just not hard core enough for the marshmallow man!!...lol!!
hahahahahaha, you might be surprised what kind of weight i handle stud. ;)
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he said at about 5 weeks out from the show, he was trying to bench 465 and tore his pec right off the bone. i could see the disfiguration THROUGH HIS SHIRT!!
This was painful to read. :-X
do not go out to a club..or party...
What's interesting here is that if you were to go to a club, you would be the center of attention. Muscle garners so much attention it's not even fair.
I am built on a cat frame
Same here! And I'm starting to like it actually...I think what little muscle I have looks more dramatic on a tiny skeleton. It will be better once I get to and maintain a lean 210.
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hahahahahaha, you might be surprised what kind of weight i handle stud. ;)
you BETTER be able to throw some weight around the gym!! your leverage is very good with all that bodyfat you carry!!
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This was painful to read. :-X
What's interesting here is that if you were to go to a club, you would be the center of attention. Muscle garners so much attention it's not even fair.
Same here! And I'm starting to like it actually...I think what little muscle I have looks more dramatic on a tiny skeleton. It will be better once I get to and maintain a lean 210.
regarding the club thing....I KNOW!!! its very frustrating that when i look my best, im self- banned from the clubs!! lol!! theres like a 2 month window after a show that i still look good and can go to the clubs....i take full advantage of that!
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you BETTER be able to throw some weight around the gym!! your leverage is very good with all that bodyfat you carry!!
hahahahahahaha, touche!!!!!!
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hahahahahahaha, touche!!!!!!
is it actually true ?
I heard it helps a lot for squat but I don't see how
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is it actually true ?
I heard it helps a lot for squat but I don't see how
Adonis says it helps for deadlift too.
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is it actually true ?
I heard it helps a lot for squat but I don't see how
hahahahaha, i'm 238 in this photo at right around 6 feet and was benching 385 at the time for a single and doing 7 with 315, so my strength isn't anything special but not horrible either. ;D
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385 is a very good bench !
good job man
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is it actually true ?
I heard it helps a lot for squat but I don't see how
yes, its all about biomechanics. having thicker limbs and a thicker trunk gives a mechanical advantage, weather or not the size is muscle or fat.
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hahahahaha, i'm 238 in this photo at right around 6 feet and was benching 385 at the time for a single and doing 7 with 315, so my strength isn't anything special but not horrible either. ;D
But you look like shit Squadfather...
You know, fat w/ blobs of bodyfat... So go lift all that weight when deep down you know you would KILL to have Dave's conditioning...
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hahahahaha, i'm 238 in this photo at right around 6 feet and was benching 385 at the time for a single and doing 7 with 315, so my strength isn't anything special but not horrible either. ;D
DUDE, 238 LBS WITH A 385 BENCH?!?!?!? im not saying thats weak, but it certainly qualifies as absolutely AVERAGE gym strength!!! on a daily basis i see skinny brothers walk in off the street, micky d's food in hand, drop onto the bench and warm up with 315 for 10 reps before hitting 405 multple times. i dont even care about how strong i am and ive done 365 for 5 sets of 5 back when i used to bench.
you are officially never allowed to make fun of my strength again!!!!!!!!!! bro, youre making a habit of owning yourself!!!
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you know whats funny is that all of that training footage of me is all high volume stuff taken out of context.
Much of this controversy is my fault. As the editor of those clips I chose the most dynamic looking shots in order to show the most energy possible. As I've said before, this is not an instructional DVD so you didn't get to see everything that led up to the so called "bad form" sets. If you could have seen the entire workout then maybe those final sets would make more sense when seen as Dave's final effort to affect every single muscle fiber possible.
Part of the problem is that most BB vids are unedited or only lightly edited. RTB2's workout clips are highly condensed and are meant to give a flavor of the workout, not the the workout in its entirety. Of course I'm going to pick the later, more dynamic sets, rather then the earlier sets in which he is using better form. There's more sweat, more grunting and more intensity.
These clips do not fully represent what RTB2 is all about and I kind of regret that Matt posted them because I think that they have overshadowed the interviews we have just done for him in which he asks some very probing, intelligent questions and which touch upon much more interesting topics than the form of excercises, IMO.
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DUDE, 238 LBS WITH A 385 BENCH?!?!?!? im not saying thats weak, but it certainly qualifies as absolutely AVERAGE gym strength!!! on a daily basis i see skinny brothers walk in off the street, micky d's food in hand, drop onto the bench and warm up with 315 for 10 reps before hitting 405 multple times. i dont even care about how strong i am and ive done 365 for 5 sets of 5 back when i used to bench.
you are officially never allowed to make fun of my strength again!!!!!!!!!! bro, youre making a habit of owning yourself!!!
hahahahahaha, ok "eastcoastbbman", 405 is average bench press strength. ;D
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DUDE, 238 LBS WITH A 385 BENCH?!?!?!? im not saying thats weak, but it certainly qualifies as absolutely AVERAGE gym strength!!! on a daily basis i see skinny brothers walk in off the street, micky d's food in hand, drop onto the bench and warm up with 315 for 10 reps before hitting 405 multple times. i dont even care about how strong i am and ive done 365 for 5 sets of 5 back when i used to bench.
you are officially never allowed to make fun of my strength again!!!!!!!!!! bro, youre making a habit of owning yourself!!!
Don't be so proud of yourself.. if the form in the video is any indication of what your bench press form is then by no means should that count as any one rep.
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for me its all about the strength..
heavy traiing...from day one...
and i have made tremedous training from lifting heavy....
i cant understand why someone would want to look like they are stong but not be strong...
that is weak...
i look strong and i am strong...
not into all this muscle worship....
its all about being strong...
i have seen with me eyes a 6 ft 4 bouncer all muscley get knocked the fuck out by a 20 yr old skinny guy in late teens..
lookin big with no strength is .. kinda pussy to me in my mind...
just want big muscles to intimidate... whic i find laughable..
where i come from as in where i was born and grew up no one is remotely scared of size... u will get dropped regardless of how strong u look so u better have some strength to back up the size
and that is why a lot of guys train to look intimidatin..
me i train so when i get down .. i get down.. i get down
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strength all the way
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for me its all about the strength..
heavy traiing...from day one...
and i have made tremedous training from lifting heavy....
i cant understand why someone would want to look like they are stong but not be strong...
that is weak...
i look strong and i am strong...
not into all this muscle worship....
its all about being strong...
i have seen with me eyes a 6 ft 4 bouncer all muscley get knocked the fuck out by a 20 yr old skinny guy in late teens..
lookin big with no strength is .. kinda pussy to me in my mind...
just want big muscles to intimidate... whic i find laughable..
where i come from as in where i was born and grew up no one is remotely scared of size... u will get dropped regardless of how strong u look so u better have some strength to back up the size
and that is why a lot of guys train to look intimidatin..
me i train so when i get down .. i get down.. i get down
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strength all the way
Meso, I disagree a little bit, for my size I have average strength..I will never be strength monster, plain and simple
I lift as heavy as I can but I am not trying to break any world record..my goal is to maximize hypertrophy.
gaining strength and size can go hand in hand but not always. I look to keep my reps around 10 and clearly that is not optimal for strength gains. I train my muscles, not my ego
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Meso, I disagree a little bit, for my size I have average strength..I will never be strength monster, plain and simple
I lift as heavy as I can but I am not trying to break any world record..my goal is to maximize hypertrophy.
gaining strength and size can go hand in hand but not always. I look to keep my reps around 10 and clearly that is not optimal for strength gains. I train my muscles, not my ego
got any pictures?
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got any pictures?
posting pics on getbig can lead to nothing good. People around here take things too serious, no exchange of information..just trade of insults.
not to worry Sarc, I am making progress
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posting pics on getbig can lead to nothing good. People around here take things too serious, no exchange of information..just trade of insults.
not to worry Sarc, I am making progress
yeah i hear you but how would we know without seeing pictures?
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yeah i hear you but how would we know without seeing pictures?
I am going to use a line from True Adonis.."very soon"
actually, I did promise Meso a video of me pressing 145 or 150lb DBs (a couple of crappy reps)
I am going to bahamas for few days with wifey on the 16th so right now in a little cutting mode..After that i will send him the vid.
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I am going to use a line from True Adonis.."very soon"
actually, I did promise Meso a video of me pressing 145 or 150lb DBs (a couple of crappy reps)
I am going to bahamas for few days with wifey on the 16th so right now in a little cutting mode..After that i will send him the vid.
150 pounds???? YOU'RE A MONSTER!!!!!!!!!!
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Meso, I disagree a little bit, for my size I have average strength..I will never be strength monster, plain and simple
I lift as heavy as I can but I am not trying to break any world record..my goal is to maximize hypertrophy.
gaining strength and size can go hand in hand but not always. I look to keep my reps around 10 and clearly that is not optimal for strength gains. I train my muscles, not my ego
no no u misunderstand I NEVER ego train... eg having a spoterr lifet weights off me...
right now i weigh a HARD NATURAL 200lbs..ripped..and i owe it all to lifting heady ass weight for reps
very hard coming from a light weight even back then i was strong... and that is why the muscle i carry the quality is damn good.. because i have pounded them hard..
i never so anything for less than 6 reps... only if i feel good and i am going for a 1 rep max....or i am tryin a new weight.. which i only do on deadlifts nowadays...
i am very strong for my weight.. but i have never gauged my strength off other peoples strengh.. strengh is relative..
my one rep max right now on deads is 550 it may not be heavy to some guys but to me that is what matters... pushing myself to the limits...
i cant ever understand any man wanting to look strong without putting in the work...
i would prefer to look like i cant bench 500... but i can that i find impressive
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I am going to use a line from True Adonis.."very soon"
actually, I did promise Meso a video of me pressing 145 or 150lb DBs (a couple of crappy reps)
I am going to bahamas for few days with wifey on the 16th so right now in a little cutting mode..After that i will send him the vid.
i have a weeks holiday from wrk this week i will endevourto finally put stuff up
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for me its all about the strength..
heavy traiing...from day one...
and i have made tremedous training from lifting heavy....
i cant understand why someone would want to look like they are stong but not be strong...
that is weak...
i look strong and i am strong...
not into all this muscle worship....
its all about being strong...
i have seen with me eyes a 6 ft 4 bouncer all muscley get knocked the fuck out by a 20 yr old skinny guy in late teens..
lookin big with no strength is .. kinda pussy to me in my mind...
just want big muscles to intimidate... whic i find laughable..
where i come from as in where i was born and grew up no one is remotely scared of size... u will get dropped regardless of how strong u look so u better have some strength to back up the size
and that is why a lot of guys train to look intimidatin..
me i train so when i get down .. i get down.. i get down
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strength all the way
I'm confused! Isn't this a BODYBUILDING forum?? It's not a powerlifting forum. There are plenty of those, you should go there if all you want to discuss is poundages and form.
This site is devoted to BB which is not, and has never been, about strength. BB is more like a strange hybrid of sport and art form...a very personal art form in which the material with which you sculpt is your own body! The methods that an artist uses to create art should NEVER be a consideration in the appreciation of that art. We don't care how a painter holds his brush, as long as we like the painting.
Do you guys understand what BB is or not? Or is this all too far over the heads of the people who post here? C'mon, step up to the plate intellectually GetBiggers! Get over the adolescent weightroom posturing.
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I'm confused! Isn't this a BODYBUILDING forum?? It's not a powerlifting forum. There are plenty of those, you should go there if all you want to discuss is poundages and form.
This site is devoted to BB which is not, and has never been, about strength. BB is more like a strange hybrid of sport and art form...a very personal art form in which the material with which you sculpt is your own body! The methods that an artist uses to create art should NEVER be a consideration in the appreciation of that art. We don't care how a painter holds his brush, as long as we like the painting.
Do you guys understand what BB is or not? Or is this all too far over the heads of the people who post here? C'mon, step up to the plate intellectually GetBiggers! Get over the adolescent weightroom posturing.
... yes it is a bb forum...
basically what i am saying is...
i find bbers who lift heavy weights inspiring....
and that is the way i lift and have made great gains..
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... yes it is a bb forum...
basically what i am saying is...
i find bbers who lift heavy weights inspiring....
and that is the way i lift and have made great gains..
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That makes much sense. But I still feel that there are many others who don't seem to get it.
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hahahahahaha, ok "eastcoastbbman", 405 is average bench press strength. ;D
lol!!! bro, seriously, there are at least a dozen dudes at the gym where i have my office who can bench 405. its so commonplace now. again, im NOT saying you are weak, but you need to stop busting on me for my lack of strength because youre not throwing around anything impressive either!!!!!!!!!...so there!!!
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lol!!! bro, seriously, there are at least a dozen dudes at the gym where i have my office who can bench 405. its so commonplace now. again, im NOT saying you are weak, but you need to stop busting on me for my lack of strength because youre not throwing around anything impressive either!!!!!!!!!...so there!!!
How's your health after years of steroid abuse?
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Don't be so proud of yourself.. if the form in the video is any indication of what your bench press form is then by no means should that count as any one rep.
oh, alexxx....FORM SHMORM!!! ( thats the only comeback i could think of)
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for me its all about the strength..
heavy traiing...from day one...
and i have made tremedous training from lifting heavy....
i cant understand why someone would want to look like they are stong but not be strong...
that is weak...
i look strong and i am strong...
not into all this muscle worship....
its all about being strong...
i have seen with me eyes a 6 ft 4 bouncer all muscley get knocked the fuck out by a 20 yr old skinny guy in late teens..
lookin big with no strength is .. kinda pussy to me in my mind...
just want big muscles to intimidate... whic i find laughable..
where i come from as in where i was born and grew up no one is remotely scared of size... u will get dropped regardless of how strong u look so u better have some strength to back up the size
and that is why a lot of guys train to look intimidatin..
me i train so when i get down .. i get down.. i get down
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strength all the way
mesmorph, i have a problem believing that you truly dont understand this. its called "bodybuilding" and its what some people like to do. for me, looking a certain way always appealed to me and whenever i tried to focus on strength ( which WAS important to me at one time also) i would hurt something. my joints are made of balsa wood and i dont have really sturdy connective tissue. for me, heavy training always leads to injury.
your repeated references to fighting and intimidation and who can beat up who are extremely juvenile. bodybuilding has never been about intimidating others for me or any of the bodybuilders i know and associate with. im 42 and havent been in a fist fight in 20 years..its called being a grown up. for me bodybuilding is simply a goal, a passion, a "sport" ( of you wanna call it that) for me its always been about sculpting my body and putting that creation onstage. im sorry of you think that doing this makes me a "pussy"
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How's your health after years of steroid abuse?
sesame oil is the only thing holding me together at this point!!
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These clips do not fully represent what RTB2 is all about and I kind of regret that Matt posted them because I think that they have overshadowed the interviews we have just done for him in which he asks some very probing, intelligent questions and which touch upon much more interesting topics than the form of excercises, IMO.
I agree...the thread has now kind of gone into a big discussion about Dave's exercise form and strength and not the interviews. Check out the interviews below.
INTERVIEWS WITH DAVE AND MIKE:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/davepulcinellainterview05052007.html
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mikepulcinellainterview05052007.html
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mesmorph, i have a problem believing that you truly dont understand this. its called "bodybuilding" and its what some people like to do. for me, looking a certain way always appealed to me and whenever i tried to focus on strength ( which WAS important to me at one time also) i would hurt something. my joints are made of balsa wood and i dont have really sturdy connective tissue. for me, heavy training always leads to injury.
your repeated references to fighting and intimidation and who can beat up who are extremely juvenile. bodybuilding has never been about intimidating others for me or any of the bodybuilders i know and associate with. im 42 and havent been in a fist fight in 20 years..its called being a grown up. for me bodybuilding is simply a goal, a passion, a "sport" ( of you wanna call it that) for me its always been about sculpting my body and putting that creation onstage. im sorry of you think that doing this makes me a "pussy"
ok let me clear something up...
.. i never called u a pussy personally... i have seen a clip of u training... one clip out of how many yrs
i dont know what u have done etc etc..
i was talkin about a mindset .. in fact i was responding to the line
which was i would rather look like i can bench 500 .. rather than bench 500... to me that is a pussy mindset...
..none of the post you quoted was directed to u personally in any way shape or form
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oh, alexxx....FORM SHMORM!!! ( thats the only comeback i could think of)
hahaha I just think that if you pay a little more attention to form you could do much better. Take it from me no one likes to hear someone correct them on their from but you learn from it and grow so much better. Good luck in your competitions!
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Judges use three criteria: muscularity, symmetry, & presentation. Dave excels at all three. He is a top NPC athlete & has a good chance of going pro at the masters level. 'Nuff said.
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Judges use three criteria: muscularity, symmetry, & presentation. Dave excels at all three. He is a top NPC athlete & has a good chance of going pro at the masters level. 'Nuff said.
Hi Mike, I don't feel like reading this whole thread so when's Raising the Bar II officially being released? I want to see Dave drinking his tuna and lubing his elbows again. No, seriously, I did enjoy the first part so what's the deal? Any chance they'll be more nudity? If so I hope you filmed some figure girls during one of your all night tanning sessions. Most of the women should be naked so that the general public can appreciate all the hard work these girls put in.
Hope this help. ;D
Keep 'um coming!
Wark regards,
"Teh Naked One"
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Hi Mike, I don't feel like reading this whole thread so when's Raising the Bar II officially being released? I want to see Dave drinking his tuna and lubing his elbows again. No, seriously, I did enjoy the first part so what's the deal? Any chance they'll be more nudity? If so I hope you filmed some figure girls during one of your all night tanning sessions. Most of the women should be naked so that the general public can appreciate all the hard work these girls put in.
Hope this help. ;D
Keep 'um coming!
Wark regards,
"Teh Naked One"
Hey, TNO! RTB2 is officially done! I just need about a month to iron out the technical details of getting the mass duplication done and getting them to mesorx.com for sale. Thanks for asking.
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hahaha I just think that if you pay a little more attention to form you could do much better. Take it from me no one likes to hear someone correct them on their from but you learn from it and grow so much better. Good luck in your competitions!
alexxx, i appreciate your input, i really do. im not being sarcastic at all. i believe that you truly believe you have some sort of understanding of exercise science that i dont. however, you need to learn that just because something doesnt look right to you based on your own set of internal rules, doesnt mean its not effective. the way i do things has evolved over years of trial and error and has gotten me pretty far in this thing called competitive bb'ing. so even though what i do in the gym doesnt look right to you, you have to be open to the possibilty that MAYBE its not so bad since my methods have produced 3 state titles...4 regional titles.... and 3 national level wins.....fair enough?
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alexxx, i appreciate your input, i really do. im not being sarcastic at all. i believe that you truly believe you have some sort of understanding of exercise science that i dont. however, you need to learn that just because something doesnt look right to you based on your own set of internal rules, doesnt mean its not effective. the way i do things has evolved over years of trial and error and has gotten me pretty far in this thing called competitive bb'ing. so even though what i do in the gym doesnt look right to you, you have to be open to the possibilty that MAYBE its not so bad since my methods have produced 3 state titles...4 regional titles.... and 3 national level wins.....fair enough?
no offense Dave you're a damn good bb'er but if Alexxx took the amount of drugs you take and had even half as many years of training under his belt that you do he would absolutely dwarf you.
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no offense Dave you're a damn good bb'er but if Alexxx took the amount of drugs you take and had even half as many years of training under his belt that you do he would absolutely dwarf you.
Are you against drugs in BB? Should BB be all natural?
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Are you against drugs in BB? Should BB be all natural?
no i'm not at all, i've used them and it would be hypocritical of me to criticize it, i was just making a point that dave was trying to make it sound as if Alexx knew nothing about training or eating and i'm saying that if Alexxx juiced like dave does he would be gigantic.
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no offense Dave you're a damn good bb'er but if Alexxx took the amount of drugs you take and had even half as many years of training under his belt that you do he would absolutely dwarf you.
ahhh nooooo.........
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ok let me clear something up...
.. i never called u a pussy personally... i have seen a clip of u training... one clip out of how many yrs
i dont know what u have done etc etc..
i was talkin about a mindset .. in fact i was responding to the line
which was i would rather look like i can bench 500 .. rather than bench 500... to me that is a pussy mindset...
..none of the post you quoted was directed to u personally in any way shape or form
It came to my attention recently that tons of guys my age are intimidated by me. Yes me. :o The general populace thinks if you have muscle you are automatically good at fighting and also thinks karate is magic lol. Sometimes, simply intimidating people will prevent them from fighting you or starting shit - look at bikers for instance. You think those fat fucks would really put up a fight? So personally I would rather look powerful than be powerful and that is how I'm going to train from here on in!
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MattC,
rip my DVDs dammit >:(
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no offense Dave you're a damn good bb'er but if Alexxx took the amount of drugs you take and had even half as many years of training under his belt that you do he would absolutely dwarf you.
ok, lets back up a second...first of all, you have no clue about what amounts of anything i take or dont take or what alexxx takes or doesnt take. . why the automatic assumption that large quantites are used? secondly, have you seen pics of me throughout the years? no. so you also have no idea what i looked like with the same amount of years training as alexxx. i was winning shows after about 4 years in the gym ( age 18) and naturally!!
plus, people dont just keep growing exponentially just because they rack up the years. c'mon..you should know that. theres a limit to how much muscle you can acquire
so, IF he was using all these drugs...and IF he was working out longer...and IF this and IF that....all moot points, big boy!!
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I don't believe in limits. Natural or enhanced you can always improve and get better.
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ok, lets back up a second...first of all, you have no clue about what amounts of anything i take or dont take or what alexxx takes or doesnt take. . why the automatic assumption that large quantites are used? secondly, have you seen pics of me throughout the years? no. so you also have no idea what i looked like with the same amount of years training as alexxx. i was winning shows after about 4 years in the gym ( age 18) and naturally!!
plus, people dont just keep growing exponentially just because they rack up the years. c'mon..you should know that. theres a limit to how much muscle you can acquire
so, IF he was using all these drugs...and IF he was working out longer...and IF this and IF that....all moot points, big boy!!
Monster exposing of a logical fallacy!
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I don't believe in limits. Natural or enhanced you can always improve and get better.
thats a fair statement. i wont argue with that. im never done learning. and none of what i wrote was meant as a cut on you, bro. i want you to know that. i was simply presenting the other side. if i remember correctly, you have a very good physique.
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Monster exposing of a logical fallacy!
fallic symbol..what? dude, youre my brother and i still dont know what youre talking about!! say that in english!
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thats a fair statement. i wont argue with that. im never done learning. and none of what i wrote was meant as a cut on you, bro. i want you to know that. i was simply presenting the other side. if i remember correctly, you have a very good physique.
Thanks. Same here I don't mean to be an ass but sometimes get a little carried away. I am sure we would get along in the real world as you do have a strong passion for this sport. You have a damn good physique regardless.
Peace!
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fallic symbol..what? dude, youre my brother and i still dont know what youre talking about!! say that in english!
Thanks for having my back bro! You suuuuuuck! You're OUT of Raising the Bar 3!!
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Thanks for having my back bro! You suuuuuuck! You're OUT of Raising the Bar 3!!
i AM "raising the bar 3"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good luck having a dvd without me!!!! who esle will cramp up on command?
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Dave, you look great. I don't know much about you, but you seem like a tank, a tank who can think and express himself!
Good luck in your shows this year!
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Dave, you look great. I don't know much about you, but you seem like a tank, a tank who can think and express himself!
Good luck in your shows this year!
ha!!! thanks columbusdude! i think we have all gotten used to hearing coleman and cutler attempt to communicate! its painful! but... IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE THAT WAY!!!!!! LOL!
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If you come to town for the ASC next year, I'll be sure to say hi!
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It came to my attention recently that tons of guys my age are intimidated by me. Yes me. :o The general populace thinks if you have muscle you are automatically good at fighting and also thinks karate is magic lol. Sometimes, simply intimidating people will prevent them from fighting you or starting shit - look at bikers for instance. You think those fat fucks would really put up a fight? So personally I would rather look powerful than be powerful and that is how I'm going to train from here on in!
.. cool me id rather be strong than look strong.... i look quite intimidating in real like .. but i dont care about that..
i dont worship muscle its not an affinity...or something i am unfamiliar with...
id rather be strong so i can protect myself and my family...
like i say where i am from nobody cares how big you look...
lets hope noone really steps to you...
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mmm it all comes down to different backgrounds
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Dude straight-up some of the replies in this post are just plain retarded without any evident theory nor info. behind them. Just "attention-whore" replies by some losers.
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Dude straight-up some of the replies in this post are just plain retarded without any evident theory nor info. behind them. Just "attention-whore" replies by some losers.
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I think it is taking away from a good interview - Dave has good and detailed answers to the questions I posed as does Mike. Hopefully this is the first of many good interviews to come now that I am starting to get that section on my website growing.
MORE INTERVIEWS:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/interviews.html
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I think it is taking away from a good interview - Dave has good and detailed answers to the questions I posed as does Mike. Hopefully this is the first of many good interviews to come now that I am starting to get that section on my website growing.
MORE INTERVIEWS:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/interviews.html
Thanks Matt, I appreciate that. There are so many interesting topics to discuss in this wacky sport that I'm a bit suprised to find everyone focusing on this superficial stuff.
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Thanks Matt, I appreciate that. There are so many interesting topics to discuss in this wacky sport that I'm a bit suprised to find everyone focusing on this superficial stuff.
Are you saying you wanna talk about good ole-fashioned GAY 4 PAY??? ;) hmmm let's see, what u been up to lately...
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Are you saying you wanna talk about good ole-fashioned GAY 4 PAY??? ;) hmmm let's see, what u been up to lately...
Ha! At least that would be more interesting than a discussion of friggin' exercise form!
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OK cough it up then... where are the pictures of you in your birthday suit holding a whip and dancing the macarena like it's 1995 that you took for "gay for pay. com"??
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OK cough it up then... where are the pictures of you in your birthday suit holding a whip and dancing the macarena like it's 1995 that you took for "gay for pay. com"??
Hey man! You got it all wrong! I can't dance.
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Hey man! You got it all wrong! I can't dance.
AHHAH! So it was your brother then? I would ask Matt C if he has the pictures, but I know that he spends his mornings in his "meditation room" whose walls are lined with pics of his lover Frank...
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AHHAH! So it was your brother then? I would ask Matt C if he has the pictures, but I know that he spends his mornings in his "meditation room" whose walls are lined with pics of his lover Frank...
ha ha! Well, this conversation sure has deteriorated!
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Are you sure you don't wanna go back to talking about exercise form? ;)
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Are you sure you don't wanna go back to talking about exercise form? ;)
LOL! That topic is starting to seem more attractive!
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OK so when did you first start using bad form in the gym? Did someone brainwash you into the bad form way of thinking?
Also, do you think people who lift with bad form should be allowed to get married, or adopt children?
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OK so when did you first start using bad form in the gym? Did someone brainwash you into the bad form way of thinking?
Also, do you think people who lift with bad form should be allowed to get married, or adopt children?
what do you mean "bad form", i thought it was normal to be almost lying on the floor while doing pulldowns.
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"Doing pulldowns"? Is that what the bad form crowd call it nowadays???
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OK so when did you first start using bad form in the gym? Did someone brainwash you into the bad form way of thinking?
Also, do you think people who lift with bad form should be allowed to get married, or adopt children?
LOLL! We must not allow the "bad form" gene to be passed on to the next generation! Thank god Dave has no kids so he can't corrupt their impressionable minds with his sloppy form.
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LOLL! We must not allow the "bad form" gene to be passed on to the next generation! Thank god Dave has no kids so he can't corrupt their impressionable minds with his sloppy form.
Interesting, so you think it's genetic and not learned behavior? I can see the "nature versus nurture" debate flaring up..
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Interesting, so you think it's genetic and not learned behavior? I can see the "nature versus nurture" debate flaring up..
People are not born doing pulldowns parallel to the floor.
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what do you mean "bad form", i thought it was normal to be almost lying on the floor while doing pulldowns.
I think it is normal to see more then a handful of guys that can bench 400lbs at a gym... I also think it is normal to see a bunch of average looking "joe's" look fat and bloated in the gym like you...
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I think it is normal to see more then a handful of guys that can bench 400lbs at a gym... I also think it is normal to see a bunch of average looking "joe's" look fat and bloated in the gym like you...
until i see a picture of you i look like Mr. Olympia next to you.
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Actually you don't and NOT even close.
I will post soon as I figure out how. And you can trust me that you DO NOT look even close to me... You are FAT and have a big tummy and arms... You are nothing special.
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Actually you don't and NOT even close.
I will post soon as I figure out how. And you can trust me that you DO NOT look even close to me... You are FAT and have a big tummy and arms... You are nothing special.
like i said until you post a picture you're a scared little skinny 108 pound bitch. ;D
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like i said until you post a picture you're a scared little skinny 108 pound bitch. ;D
LMAO
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OK so when did you first start using bad form in the gym? Did someone brainwash you into the bad form way of thinking?
Also, do you think people who lift with bad form should be allowed to get married, or adopt children?
columbusdude, "gatomjp" is my brother mike, not me ( dave). hes the videographer..im the bodybuilder. i think you thought you were talking to me.
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like i said until you post a picture you're a scared little skinny 108 pound bitch. ;D
hey, squadfather. once again you are in wayy over your head. agent 001 makes you look like youve never stepped foot in a gym!! lol!! in fact, thats the case with 2/3 of the people you make of....lmao!!!!!!!!!
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What was your last cycle?
Be honest, and you will gain everyones respect. You see, at Getbig we know eating brocoli and doing lat pulldowns [no matter how bad the form], will not get you to 280lbs.
What was your last cycle?
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What was your last cycle?
Be honest, and you will gain everyones respect. You see, at Getbig we know eating brocoli and doing lat pulldowns [no matter how bad the form], will not get you to 280lbs.
What was your last cycle?
im assuming this was addressed to me.
im not opposed to discussing what i do and dont do with people. im pretty upfront about most things with most people, most of the time. will i lay it out in detail on a message board? no. i dont think any intelligent person would. if you havent heard, roids are ILLEGAL!! besides, if thats what it takes to earn the "respect" of those who post here, id rather MAKE DO WITHOUT THAT RESPECT.
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hey, squadfather. once again you are in wayy over your head. agent 001 makes you look like youve never stepped foot in a gym!! lol!! in fact, thats the case with 2/3 of the people you make of....lmao!!!!!!!!!
hahahahah this coming from a guy with 14 inch arms who calls himself a bodybuilder, good luck with those massive 85 pound dumbbell bench presses stud. ::)
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columbusdude, "gatomjp" is my brother mike, not me ( dave). hes the videographer..im the bodybuilder. i think you thought you were talking to me.
I knew that. I was just teasing :) So what is your answer to those questions ? ;)
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hahahahah this coming from a guy with 14 inch arms who calls himself a bodybuilder, good luck with those massive 85 pound dumbbell bench presses stud. ::)
yeah, thats great, however none of that changes the fact that agent001 looks wayyyyyy better than YOU!!!!.....monster resorting to the same old insult from 18 posts ago!!!!
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yeah, thats great, however none of that changes the fact that agent001 looks wayyyyyy better than YOU!!!!.....monster resorting to the same old insult from 18 posts ago!!!!
like i said before Mr. Penciled In Beard at age 42 when he posts a pic proving he is better than i'll admit it.
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I knew that. I was just teasing :) So what is your answer to those questions ? ;)
which questions? the g4p ones? well, unfortunately, no one has ever wanted to pay me to be gay!......
.as far as my form goes, i think its genetic, but it skips a generation. my father had textbook form in the gym, but my grandmother....ugh, she was all over the place with her pulldowns and her laterals!!! thats where i think i get it!
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like i said before Mr. Penciled In Beard at age 42 when he posts a pic proving he is better than i'll admit it.
ITS NOT PENCILED IN!!!! IT "JUST FOR MEN" HAIR COLOR!!! ITS THE ONE WITH THE BLACK GUY ON THE BOX!!!
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ITS NOT PENCILED IN!!!! IT "JUST FOR MEN" HAIR COLOR!!! ITS THE ONE WITH THE BLACK GUY ON THE BOX!!!
I told you you were using too much!!
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which questions? the g4p ones? well, unfortunately, no one has ever wanted to pay me to be gay!......
.as far as my form goes, i think its genetic, but it skips a generation. my father had textbook form in the gym, but my grandmother....ugh, she was all over the place with her pulldowns and her laterals!!! thats where i think i get it!
Interesting how both you and your brother think bad form is genetic, not learned behavior. You mean there weren't some bad formers in the gym when you were young who lured you into their torrid lifestyle??
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Interesting how both you and your brother think bad form is genetic, not learned behavior. You mean there weren't some bad formers in the gym when you were young who lured you into their torrid lifestyle??
i think it starts off with a genetic predisposition...and then i may have just gotten in with the wrong crowd....
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i think it starts off with a genetic predisposition...and then i may have just gotten in with the wrong crowd....
There was this guy at the gym when we were kids. He said, "Try it, you'll like it. It'll make you feel good!"...and we were hooked!