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Title: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Livewire on July 17, 2007, 04:35:43 PM
But THESE are?  ???

http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/07/insane-sport-bloopers.html
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Andre Nickatina on July 17, 2007, 04:44:20 PM
Bodybuilding is not a sport!

Just because something else that also isnt a asport is called one doesnt make it anymore of a sport either!
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Iraclese on July 17, 2007, 05:49:08 PM
Bodybuilding is not a sport!

Just because something else that also isnt a asport is called one doesnt make it anymore of a sport either!

Bodybuilding isn't a sport????  Are you serious???  This has been beaten to death on this board so many times.  Bodybuilders are some of the most dedicated athletes in the world.  No other athlete puts so much into their training and nutrition.  Bodybuilding contests indicate competition.  Sports=competition.  Bodybuilding is very much a sport.  But obviously your not a bodybuilder and know nothing about the sport at all what so ever.  So why are you on this board to be exact?????? ::)
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 17, 2007, 05:51:09 PM
competitive bodybuilding = male beauty pageant

Do it for health, vanity and longevity but don't try to put it in the same category as boxing or hockey.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: pumpher on July 17, 2007, 05:52:40 PM
Bodybuilding isn't a sport????  Are you serious???  This has been beaten to death on this board so many times.  Bodybuilders are some of the most dedicated athletes in the world.  No other athlete puts so much into their training and nutrition.  Bodybuilding contests indicate competition.  Sports=competition.  Bodybuilding is very much a sport.  But obviously your not a bodybuilder and know nothing about the sport at all what so ever.  So why are you on this board to be exact?????? ::)

So the Spelling Bee on ESPN the other day featured some intense "competition."

Would that be classified as a sport as well?

I just think the word "sport" entails more than just "competition"
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Iraclese on July 17, 2007, 05:58:40 PM
competitive bodybuilding = male beauty pageant

Do it for health, vanity and longevity but don't try to put it in the same category as boxing or hockey.

You obviously have never competed, I guarantee that there is no pro boxer or hockey player that could diet or train like a ronnie coleman or Jay Cutler.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Livewire on July 17, 2007, 06:02:09 PM
but at least they're not being brutally wounded like some of the people in the video clip
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: The Coach on July 17, 2007, 08:37:18 PM
You obviously have never competed, I guarantee that there is no pro boxer or hockey player that could diet or train like a ronnie coleman or Jay Cutler.

Captain Equipoise hit right on the head.

I've competed and I can also tell you that both hockey AND boxers train much harder than Ronnie and Jay, some boxers even have to diet to make weight!
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 17, 2007, 08:43:06 PM
Captain Equipoise hit right on the head.

I've competed and I can also tell you that both hockey AND boxers train much harder than Ronnie and Jay, some boxers even have to diet to make weight!

and they also train harder than phil mickelson

what is your point?

E
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: The Coach on July 17, 2007, 08:49:48 PM
and they also train harder than phil mickelson

what is your point?

E

Phil Mickelson has skills!
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: meatusheadus on July 17, 2007, 10:42:34 PM
Bodybuilders are definately athletes and the best deserve their due as much as anyone in any other sporting field - However, the huge subjective discrepency, similar to say, figure skating ;D puts it in a unique category.  Coleman and others were huge but i was always partial to the "Blade's" shape.  Age old arguement that is hard to settle.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: gordiano on July 17, 2007, 10:48:52 PM
There are three types of people who you will never convince that bbing is not a sport:


1) The comp. bbers themselves (because they think it makes them sound special to claim to be involved in a sport, which in their minds makes them athletes)

2) The muscle worshippers (they are so busy worshipping, they have no time to think logically and admit the truth, as it would hurt their muscle heroes' feelings)

3) The wanna be's (those who emulate their favorite bbers, even to the point of juicing for a plastic trophy at the Mr. Local Bumfuck)

Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 18, 2007, 01:08:13 AM
Captain Equipoise hit right on the head.

I've competed and I can also tell you that both hockey AND boxers train much harder than Ronnie and Jay, some boxers even have to diet to make weight!
I'll hae to disagree with u . Ronnie is an example for any athlete out there and I believe he is one of the most genetically gifted ATHLETES.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Livewire on July 18, 2007, 07:18:20 AM
Captain Equipoise hit right on the head.

I've competed and I can also tell you that both hockey AND boxers train much harder than Ronnie and Jay, some boxers even have to diet to make weight!

ronnie trains to near muscle failure, 10 months a year, 90 minutes a day, for 20 years.

You know a hockey player that trains harder?  come on...
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: The Coach on July 18, 2007, 09:13:59 AM
ronnie trains to near muscle failure, 10 months a year, 90 minutes a day, for 20 years.

You know a hockey player that trains harder?  come on...

I have clients (not my athletes) who do the samething, of course not the same weight but just as hard, should they be called athletes as well?

Just because someone trains till failure doesn't make them an athlete. You've been watching too many Ronnie videos!
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 18, 2007, 09:19:27 AM
Coach .. I've seen plenty of detroit red wings training, especially Chris Draper who is a work horse....Coleman makes them look like they are playing.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: ironneck on July 18, 2007, 10:03:26 AM
shut up bitches

bb is a sport
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: The Coach on July 18, 2007, 10:18:28 AM
Coach .. I've seen plenty of detroit red wings training, especially Chris Draper who is a work horse....Coleman makes them look like they are playing.

Two different types of training, besides, I hate hockey anyway, all I'm saying is that bodybuilding requires very little to no athletic ability.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: LurkyLurker on July 18, 2007, 10:31:27 AM
Umm.....who cares how you label it? Call it needlepoint if you want- still doesn't change the fact that it's building the body.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: The Coach on July 18, 2007, 10:58:51 AM
Umm.....who cares how you label it? Call it needlepoint if you want- still doesn't change the fact that it's building the body.

"LurkyLurker"....k :-\!
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Colossus_1986 on July 18, 2007, 11:34:09 AM
Hockey players, Football players etc...all train and practice very hard.
So do Bodybuilders.

These athletes have a place to showcase how their hard-work paid off, and do so by playing their respective sports.

Bodybuilders compete in an almost non-athletic event (standing and posing against one another) that doesn't take away all the hard work and preparation that went into it.

You can say that there is no "skill" or talent involved...but you'd be wrong. If no skill were involved, then everyone would have outstanding physiques in the world. Aside from willpower to train, people must know what they're doing in the gym, understand their bodies and metabolisms etc etc etc...or they become hopless skinny retards like El-Mariachi...

it's way different that what most people consider a sport.
but it's still:
           1) a physical activity
           2) can be competitive
           3) there are professional and amateur levels
           4) athletes are endorsed, and represent companies
           5) they get paid prize money

* how is that NOT a sport?
the-end bitches



Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: JasonH on July 18, 2007, 11:44:12 AM
Wonderful.

The ten billionth time we've had the "bodybuilding is/is not a sport" discussion.

 ::)
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Jean Paul Gaultier on July 18, 2007, 11:45:50 AM
NO

Is WWE a sport?

Both have predetermined outcomes.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Colossus_1986 on July 18, 2007, 11:47:12 AM
Wonderful.

The ten billionth time we've had the "bodybuilding is/is not a sport" discussion.

 ::)

gotta love it!!
up next:
1) jay cutler is a fridge topic
2) dorian vs ronnie topic
3) WHAT A BEASTTT!!! (squadfather topic)
4) some gay Adonis thread about dick sucking and calories.
the list goes on
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: JasonH on July 18, 2007, 12:13:18 PM
gotta love it!!
up next:
1) jay cutler is a fridge topic
2) dorian vs ronnie topic
3) WHAT A BEASTTT!!! (squadfather topic)
4) some gay Adonis thread about dick sucking and calories.the list goes on

LOL!!  ;D
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 18, 2007, 05:15:13 PM
There are three types of people who you will never convince that bbing is not a sport:


1) The comp. bbers themselves (because they think it makes them sound special to claim to be involved in a sport, which in their minds makes them athletes)

2) The muscle worshippers (they are so busy worshipping, they have no time to think logically and admit the truth, as it would hurt their muscle heroes' feelings)

3) The wanna be's (those who emulate their favorite bbers, even to the point of juicing for a plastic trophy at the Mr. Local Bumfuck)



4) those who actually have seen the definiton of the word "sport" and don't make up their own definition of the word "sport" 8)

E
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: The Coach on July 18, 2007, 05:16:15 PM
4) those who actually have seen the definiton of the word "sport" and don't make up their own definition of the word "sport" 8)

E

Not a sport!
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 18, 2007, 05:18:50 PM
Not a sport!

it is a sport

E
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Eric2 on July 18, 2007, 05:45:43 PM
boybuilding is not a sport. It is simply just what the word defines, body-building.
The mere lifting of weights to develope a certain look does not in any way resemble a sport. Bodybuilders are all about there looks.Not there athletic ability. Bodybuilding does take a lot of dedication and hard training, this however does not conclude this to be a sport.
   Bodybuilding competitions are not by any means athletic. Holding poses and prancing around like a fag with tiny trunks and oil is hardly a  competitive sport.
    Hope this helps.............
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 18, 2007, 09:31:36 PM
boybuilding is not a sport. It is simply just what the word defines, body-building.
The mere lifting of weights to develope a certain look does not in any way resemble a sport. Bodybuilders are all about there looks.Not there athletic ability. Bodybuilding does take a lot of dedication and hard training, this however does not conclude this to be a sport.
   Bodybuilding competitions are not by any means athletic. Holding poses and prancing around like a fag with tiny trunks and oil is hardly a  competitive sport.
    Hope this helps.............

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sport

sport       (spôrt, spōrt)  Pronunciation Key 
n.   

Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.

activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.

An active pastime; recreation.

 8) 8) 8)

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Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: ironneck on July 18, 2007, 09:57:15 PM
boybuilding is not a sport. It is simply just what the word defines, body-building.
The mere lifting of weights to develope a certain look does not in any way resemble a sport. Bodybuilders are all about there looks.Not there athletic ability. Bodybuilding does take a lot of dedication and hard training, this however does not conclude this to be a sport.
   Bodybuilding competitions are not by any means athletic. Holding poses and prancing around like a fag with tiny trunks and oil is hardly a  competitive sport.
    Hope this helps.............

it is fucking hard to pose ...did you ever flexed all muscles at one time and also smiled doing that?
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: The Coach on July 18, 2007, 09:59:26 PM
it is fucking hard to pose ...did you ever flexed all muscles at one time and also smiled doing that?

Yes...everytime I take a shit!!
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: ironneck on July 18, 2007, 10:08:16 PM
Yes...everytime I take a shit!!


i nearly laughed croatch
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 18, 2007, 10:15:35 PM
Yes...everytime I take a shit!!

you didn't flex all of your muscles ::)

if you did I suggest you see a doctor

E
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: The Coach on July 18, 2007, 10:17:54 PM
you didn't flex all of your muscles ::)

if you did I suggest you see a doctor

E

In my defence, I take REALLY good shits........almost euphoric :D
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Eric2 on July 18, 2007, 10:34:15 PM
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sport

sport       (spôrt, spōrt)  Pronunciation Key 
n.   

Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.

activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.

An active pastime; recreation.

 8) 8) 8)

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   Bodybuilding is still not a sport. This definition is not good enough to make it so. There is no way that bodybuilding should be ranked along the same lines as say....football,Baseball, hockey, soccer. Those are real sports that require talent and actual physical agility and ability. There is not one semi pro or pro bodybuilder that could exert himself on a playing field with a real sportsman without falling over in a big ball of muscle totally out of wind.
 
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 18, 2007, 10:44:20 PM
   Bodybuilding is still not a sport. This definition is not good enough to make it so. There is no way that bodybuilding should be ranked along the same lines as say....football,Baseball, hockey, soccer. Those are real sports that require talent and actual physical agility and ability. There is not one semi pro or pro bodybuilder that could exert himself on a playing field with a real sportsman without falling over in a big ball of muscle totally out of wind.
 

I never said bodybuilding should be mentioned along the same lines of football etc those athletes are the best of the best

regardless that doesn't mean bodybuilding is not a sport

it fits the definition of the word "sport" just because the athletes in one sport are more elite than another doesn't mean it is not a sport

E

Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: ironneck on July 18, 2007, 10:56:49 PM
   Bodybuilding is still not a sport. This definition is not good enough to make it so. There is no way that bodybuilding should be ranked along the same lines as say....football,Baseball, hockey, soccer. Those are real sports that require talent and actual physical agility and ability. There is not one semi pro or pro bodybuilder that could exert himself on a playing field with a real sportsman without falling over in a big ball of muscle totally out of wind.
 

and these athletes couldn't beat ronnie and co in a bb contest so what
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: gordiano on July 18, 2007, 11:09:43 PM
and these athletes couldn't beat ronnie and co in a bb contest so what

A better question is.......why would they want to?
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: ironneck on July 18, 2007, 11:11:58 PM
A better question is.......why would they want to?

why would ronnie want to play "baseball"
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: gordiano on July 18, 2007, 11:15:05 PM
why would ronnie want to play "baseball"

What makes you think Ronnie could play baseball?


Don't you think that if Ronnie, or any other "pro" out there had ANY real athletic ability to EXCEL at a real sport, they would have gone that route?  ::)
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: ironneck on July 19, 2007, 12:45:13 AM
What makes you think Ronnie could play baseball?


Don't you think that if Ronnie, or any other "pro" out there had ANY real athletic ability to EXCEL at a real sport, they would have gone that route?  ::)

what i want to say is that -i don't know any basebalplayer- should do his thing and ronnie and co should do their own thing
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 19, 2007, 12:57:20 AM
if bodybuilding is a sport, then so is competing in the Miss America or Miss Universe pageant... seriously what is the difference between those pageants and pro bodybuilding?.. the girls train their asses off for these pageants..diet, exercise, etc. Oh yeah..there is ONE critical difference... in the female pageants they have a TALENT section.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: gordiano on July 19, 2007, 01:04:00 AM
if bodybuilding is a sport, then so is competing in the Miss America or Miss Universe pageant... seriously what is the difference between those pageants and pro bodybuilding?.. the girls train their asses off for these pageants..diet, exercise, etc. Oh yeah..there is ONE critical difference... in the female pageants they have a TALENT section.


Ouch.


Hey now, stop making sense..... ;)
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 19, 2007, 11:39:57 AM
if bodybuilding is a sport, then so is competing in the Miss America or Miss Universe pageant... seriously what is the difference between those pageants and pro bodybuilding?.. the girls train their asses off for these pageants..diet, exercise, etc. Oh yeah..there is ONE critical difference... in the female pageants they have a TALENT section.


where is the physical exertion in beauty pageants?

E
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: gordiano on July 19, 2007, 11:41:50 AM
where is the physical exertion in beauty pageants?

E

Walking in heels...... ;)
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Andre Nickatina on July 19, 2007, 11:42:15 AM
Bodybuilding is NOT a sport damnit.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 19, 2007, 11:43:54 AM
Bodybuilding is NOT a sport damnit.

I never thought so either until the dictionary definition of the word "sport" told me it was

E
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: gordiano on July 19, 2007, 11:46:09 AM
I never thought so either until the dictionary definition of the word "sport" told me it was

E

Well, I guess the dictionary needs to be revised.


I seriously doubt they wanted beauty pageant included as a sport.......
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 19, 2007, 11:47:20 AM
Well, I guess the dictionary needs to be revised.


I seriously doubt they wanted beauty pageant included as a sport.......

beauty pageants include the face which makes this "beauty pageant" argument quite weak :)

E
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: gordiano on July 19, 2007, 11:48:31 AM
beauty pageants include the face which makes this "beauty pageant" argument quite weak :)

E

Well then, male body contest or body pageant.  ::)
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 19, 2007, 11:54:35 AM
Well then, male body contest or body pageant.  ::)

no such thing as a "body pageant"

it takes skill to pose well, tell me bob paris didn't have more skill than paul dillet

flexing all of your muscles from calves to traps simultaneously as hard as you possibly can for long periods of time is physical exertion

by definiton bodybuilding is a sport

E
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Iraclese on July 19, 2007, 01:27:15 PM
Captain Equipoise hit right on the head.

I've competed and I can also tell you that both hockey AND boxers train much harder than Ronnie and Jay, some boxers even have to diet to make weight!

Train much harder?? really? Are you a pro?? obviously not.  Just cause you've competed before dosen't make you a bodybuilder either.  I would love to see the top boxers in the world and the top hockey players in the world, do 2600 pound leg presses after they warmed up with over 350 pounds on leg extensions and then do 800 pound free bar squats in 110 degree heat.  Every watch ronnies videos??  Oh yeah and that's just half of the workout.  The only thing the hockey players and boxers would do is drop dead.  Then they would have to pick up their spines from the other side of the gym.  Your dreaming..... ::)
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Iraclese on July 19, 2007, 01:29:57 PM
boybuilding is not a sport. It is simply just what the word defines, body-building.
The mere lifting of weights to develope a certain look does not in any way resemble a sport. Bodybuilders are all about there looks.Not there athletic ability. Bodybuilding does take a lot of dedication and hard training, this however does not conclude this to be a sport.
   Bodybuilding competitions are not by any means athletic. Holding poses and prancing around like a fag with tiny trunks and oil is hardly a  competitive sport.
    Hope this helps.............
What's funny is this board is for bodybuilding, and there are so many numb nuts on here that slice the sport down.  Let me ask you, why are you on here??  Go to a different board if bodybuilding is "fag" sport. ::)
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: onlyme on July 19, 2007, 01:47:12 PM
no such thing as a "body pageant"

it takes skill to pose well, tell me bob paris didn't have more skill than paul dillet

flexing all of your muscles from calves to traps simultaneously as hard as you possibly can for long periods of time is physical exertion

by definiton bodybuilding is a sport

E

Earl give it up already you lost this battle royally.  Face it you like guys who pose near naked and have muscles.  Come out of the closet man, it's time. ;D
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: vinnyvee on July 19, 2007, 02:54:30 PM
Earl give it up already you lost this battle royally.  Face it you like guys who pose near naked and have muscles.  Come out of the closet man, it's time. ;D

I'd say judging by the text under his avatar,,,he's already out. Waaay out.... ;)
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 19, 2007, 09:34:46 PM
Earl give it up already you lost this battle royally.  Face it you like guys who pose near naked and have muscles.  Come out of the closet man, it's time. ;D

actually no you and several others can't grasp the definiton of the word "sport" means that YOU have lost, not me

i'm a nice guy though and I'm willing to help out "slow" people and will continue to educate you and the others 8)

E
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: christinafitness on July 19, 2007, 09:41:32 PM
You can watch people playing cards for hours on ESPN.
Is that more of a sport??
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: CARTEL on July 19, 2007, 09:42:26 PM
You can watch people playing cards for hours on ESPN.
Is that more of a sport??

Yes.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 19, 2007, 09:49:09 PM
You can watch people playing cards for hours on ESPN.
Is that more of a sport??

being on espn does not make anything a sport

espn shows spelling contests, rock paper scissors, and poker but doesn't show hockey

they want ratings

E
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: CARTEL on July 19, 2007, 09:54:14 PM
being on espn does not make anything a sport

espn shows spelling contests, rock paper scissors, and poker but doesn't show hockey

they want ratings

E

They show Hockey on Sportscenter.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 19, 2007, 10:02:41 PM
They show Hockey on Sportscenter.

they show a few highlights, mostly the fights ::)

notice how NFL Live is now a year long show?

the nfl brings espn ratings

E

Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: CARTEL on July 19, 2007, 10:07:01 PM
They barely show any soccer also.

Prolly cause soccer sucks ass.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Matt C on July 20, 2007, 01:45:28 AM
In my opinion a sport is a competitive activity that requires athletic ability and a way to score goals in an objective manner.  Hockey and football are sports - pool and poker are not.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Livewire on July 20, 2007, 09:29:39 AM
They barely show any soccer also.

Prolly cause soccer sucks ass.

in american markets, yes.

worldwide, soccer = HUGE
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: The Coach on July 20, 2007, 09:37:33 AM
Train much harder?? really? Are you a pro?? obviously not.  Just cause you've competed before dosen't make you a bodybuilder either.  I would love to see the top boxers in the world and the top hockey players in the world, do 2600 pound leg presses after they warmed up with over 350 pounds on leg extensions and then do 800 pound free bar squats in 110 degree heat.  Every watch ronnies videos??  Oh yeah and that's just half of the workout.  The only thing the hockey players and boxers would do is drop dead.  Then they would have to pick up their spines from the other side of the gym.  Your dreaming..... ::)


Oh brother, not another one ::)
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Livewire on July 20, 2007, 10:19:56 AM

Oh brother, not another one ::)


are you saying that most hockey players train HARDER than Ronnie Coleman? 

Really?
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 20, 2007, 04:39:44 PM
In my opinion a sport is a competitive activity that requires athletic ability and a way to score goals in an objective manner. 

why not use the dictionary's definition instead of your opinion, Matt? :)

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Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: hifrommike on July 20, 2007, 04:51:21 PM
Sport: "Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively."

From THE AMERICAN HERITAGE COLLEGE DICTIONARY 
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on July 20, 2007, 08:27:53 PM
Sport: "Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively."

From THE AMERICAN HERITAGE COLLEGE DICTIONARY 

i'm really sad for you, taking the time to look up words for such a sad argument on a Fri night.

Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: The Coach on July 20, 2007, 10:01:17 PM
are you saying that most hockey players train HARDER than Ronnie Coleman? 

Really?

Lets just say, it would be easier for a hockey player to train like Ronnie than Ronnie to train like a hockey player.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: crc69 on July 21, 2007, 04:27:39 AM
are you saying that most hockey players train HARDER than Ronnie Coleman? 
Really?

If they take the same huge amount of GH, anyone can train harder...
 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: ironneck on July 21, 2007, 04:36:13 AM
Lets just say, it would be easier for a hockey player to train like Ronnie than Ronnie to train like a hockey player.

bullshit
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 21, 2007, 07:26:16 AM
Lets just say, it would be easier for a hockey player to train like Ronnie than Ronnie to train like a hockey player.
I see aa didn't teach u much...did u play actually or warmed the bench??
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Devon97 on July 21, 2007, 09:57:18 AM
Hockey players, Football players etc...all train and practice very hard.
So do Bodybuilders.

These athletes have a place to showcase how their hard-work paid off, and do so by playing their respective sports.

Bodybuilders compete in an almost non-athletic event (standing and posing against one another) that doesn't take away all the hard work and preparation that went into it.

You can say that there is no "skill" or talent involved...but you'd be wrong. If no skill were involved, then everyone would have outstanding physiques in the world. Aside from willpower to train, people must know what they're doing in the gym, understand their bodies and metabolisms etc etc etc...or they become hopless skinny retards like El-Mariachi...

it's way different that what most people consider a sport.
but it's still:
           1) a physical activity
           2) can be competitive
           3) there are professional and amateur levels
           4) athletes are endorsed, and represent companies
           5) they get paid prize money

* how is that NOT a sport?
the-end bitches


Easy, at no time on stage is strength , endurance or stamina or skill required. If you say "POSING" is a trained skill then you would have to also consider Miss Universe and Hawaiian Tropic swimsuite/beauty pageants a sport as well!
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Devon97 on July 21, 2007, 09:58:38 AM
You can watch people playing cards for hours on ESPN.
Is that more of a sport??

YES! it takes skill and instincts!
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Devon97 on July 21, 2007, 10:00:52 AM
For anyone who thinks a Pro bbing is a TRUE PROFESSIONAL SPORT all you have to do is look at the bank account of a football player, tennis player, baseball player, basketball player, golfer compared to that of a PRO BBER!
..........THen reality sets in.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: WhiteCastle on July 21, 2007, 10:43:29 AM
competitive bodybuilding = male beauty pageant

Do it for health, vanity and longevity but don't try to put it in the same category as boxing or hockey.


Exactly.  If you think about what makes a bodybuilder a bodybuilder and what makes a fitness competitor a fitness competitor, there is little difference. 
1.  Both diet and exercise to have the lowest amount of fat they can for onstage.
2.  Both lift weights as probably the most difficult thing they have to do.  The weights aren't alive; they can't fight back or do anything different than they did the last time (nothing!).
3.  The real judging for a fitness/beauty pageant and bodybuilder competition is the bathing suit round.
4.  Guest posing for body builders equal T&A models at car shows.

So overall, the only difference between the two in training is the amount of weight they lift.  In fact, we have bodybuilders constantly telling us it's not the amount of weight you use but the form and technique.  And the amount of weight you lift isn't even judged in contests.  You could say that it implicitly is judged by their body, but Jay Cutler has disproved this for years.

So the amount of weight you lift doesn't matter either in competitive bodybuilding.  What's even left?  Chemistry and genetics. 
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: ironneck on July 21, 2007, 10:46:22 AM
bb is a sport and if poker requieres skill than bb does also you bitches
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: gordiano on July 21, 2007, 11:11:54 AM
Exactly.  If you think about what makes a bodybuilder a bodybuilder and what makes a fitness competitor a fitness competitor, there is little difference. 
1.  Both diet and exercise to have the lowest amount of fat they can for onstage.
2.  Both lift weights as probably the most difficult thing they have to do.  The weights aren't alive; they can't fight back or do anything different than they did the last time (nothing!).
3.  The real judging for a fitness/beauty pageant and bodybuilder competition is the bathing suit round.
4.  Guest posing for body builders equal T&A models at car shows.

So overall, the only difference between the two in training is the amount of weight they lift.  In fact, we have bodybuilders constantly telling us it's not the amount of weight you use but the form and technique.  And the amount of weight you lift isn't even judged in contests.  You could say that it implicitly is judged by their body, but Jay Cutler has disproved this for years.

So the amount of weight you lift doesn't matter either in competitive bodybuilding.  What's even left?  Chemistry and genetics. 

Excellent post.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Iraclese on July 21, 2007, 11:20:17 AM
For anyone who thinks a Pro bbing is a TRUE PROFESSIONAL SPORT all you have to do is look at the bank account of a football player, tennis player, baseball player, basketball player, golfer compared to that of a PRO BBER!
..........THen reality sets in.

Like I said before this is a bodybuilding board made to be a positive forum for bodybuilding.  But 90% of the bone heads here just cut it down.  Go to a different board if you guys think the sport is so lame.  And about the post above.  There are only like 4-5 guys in the ufc that make more than 50 000 a fight.  Most are fighting for like 4000-5000 grand!!  So trust me 95% of the UFC athlete have nothing in there bank accounts either.  So I guess they aren't a TRUE PROFESSIONAL SPORT either.  I find all the hate for bodybuilding on this board so funny.  Yet all these morons still post on here. ::)
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 21, 2007, 04:56:57 PM
Easy, at no time on stage is strength , endurance or stamina or skill required. If you say "POSING" is a trained skill then you would have to also consider Miss Universe and Hawaiian Tropic swimsuite/beauty pageants a sport as well!

uh no standing still and smiling isn't a skill or physical exertion ::)

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Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 21, 2007, 04:57:47 PM
For anyone who thinks a Pro bbing is a TRUE PROFESSIONAL SPORT all you have to do is look at the bank account of a football player, tennis player, baseball player, basketball player, golfer compared to that of a PRO BBER!
..........THen reality sets in.

where in the definition of the word "sport" is money mentioned?

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Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: G o a t b o y on July 21, 2007, 05:21:06 PM
Like I said before this is a bodybuilding board made to be a positive forum for bodybuilding.  But 90% of the bone heads here just cut it down.  Go to a different board if you guys think the sport is so lame. 


No, actually this is a board for Gossip & Opinion.  If you go to the main board index and look directly below this board, you'll find one called "Bodybuilding Fans & Friends".  That is the board that was set up for bodybuilding fans to talk "positively" about the sport, and it is heavily moderated to keep it positive.

So people have a choice:  they can post on G&O and deal with some negativity, or post on "Fans & Friends" and have it all positive about the "sport". 

Guess where people overwhelmingly choose to post?  That's right, G&O!  (yet they'll still bitch about the "negativity" on here  ::))
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: bigdumbbell on July 21, 2007, 05:31:50 PM
You can watch people playing cards for hours on ESPN.
Is that more of a sport??
yes actually
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 21, 2007, 11:16:43 PM
For anyone who thinks a Pro bbing is a TRUE PROFESSIONAL SPORT all you have to do is look at the bank account of a football player, tennis player, baseball player, basketball player, golfer compared to that of a PRO BBER!
..........THen reality sets in.
I was  PRO  tennis player and I'll tell u that tere's no money in tennis unless u are in top 100 in the world out of 1600 ranked and another 2-3000 competing. so by comparison bb is better payd..
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Devon97 on July 22, 2007, 12:39:56 PM
where in the definition of the word "sport" is money mentioned?

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Wasnt talking about thw word "Sport" but the word "PROFESSIONAL"...Even then if it was a sport wouldnt they make more $$???
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on July 22, 2007, 01:26:32 PM
Wasnt talking about thw word "Sport" but the word "PROFESSIONAL"...Even then if it was a sport wouldnt they make more $$???

you said "professional SPORT"

sports make money based on the amount of people willing to spend money on the sport

wouldn't you say that there are more people willing to spend money on a football game instead of a bodybuilding contest?

I think so :)

can't give out $100 million contracts when the sport isn't grossing a quarter of that

E
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Livewire on August 23, 2007, 06:55:32 AM
Wasnt talking about thw word "Sport" but the word "PROFESSIONAL"...Even then if it was a sport wouldnt they make more $$???

Mr O prize money is over $150k for the winner.  Not too shabby.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: dirk digler on August 23, 2007, 08:29:25 AM
What physical skill does Jay Cutler have that you or I don't posses??
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Captain Equipoise on August 23, 2007, 08:38:40 AM
Mr O prize money is over $150k for the winner.  Not too shabby.

Ok, and Tyson used to make 30 million in one night, for something he spent 2-3 months training for... compare that.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: nder98 on August 23, 2007, 12:28:00 PM
Easy, at no time on stage is strength , endurance or stamina or skill required. If you say "POSING" is a trained skill then you would have to also consider Miss Universe and Hawaiian Tropic swimsuite/beauty pageants a sport as well!

Sooo youve done it before??
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: biceps on August 23, 2007, 01:20:37 PM
Bodybuilding is more than sport is muscle physiology and muscle science.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on August 23, 2007, 05:48:25 PM
What physical skill does Jay Cutler have that you or I don't posses??


better bodybuilding genetics, and responsiveness to supplements.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: The Coach on August 23, 2007, 06:32:52 PM

better bodybuilding genetics, and responsiveness to supplements.

Thats not a physical SKILL :-\!
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: mitchyboy on August 23, 2007, 07:58:40 PM
I think if you have to rely on judges, I dont care what "sport" it is, if thers no finish line or score, it just aint a true sport
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: davidpaul on August 24, 2007, 02:13:03 AM
Thats not a physical SKILL :-\!

What about the posing?
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Livewire on August 24, 2007, 11:42:01 PM
What about the posing?

LOL... what about it?  They pose in Miss America.  That's not a sport.

BBing is a beauty pageant for men.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: LatsMcGee on August 24, 2007, 11:48:22 PM
Is G4P a sport?
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: G o a t b o y on August 24, 2007, 11:59:40 PM
Is G4P a sport?

Ask DA.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: gordiano on November 08, 2007, 06:22:41 PM
BUMPUS MAXIMUS!


Now that Earl has returned, we can continue to piss him off..... ;D
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: figgs on November 08, 2007, 06:26:13 PM
Bodybuilding is a corporation and only those who run the shit make millions. They're just like most politicians. They simply don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. More for them less for everyone else. The Wieders suck the devil's cock on a daily basis.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: gordiano on November 08, 2007, 06:30:53 PM
Bodybuilding is a corporation and only those who run the shit make millions. They're just like most politicians. They simply don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. More for them less for everyone else. The Wieders suck the devil's cock on a daily basis.

Amen!

It's seems like most people in this industry have sold their souls, along with their ethics, morals, character and dignity. I love how they will defend their chosen path, as if they are accomplishing something worth bragging about.  ::)
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: figgs on November 08, 2007, 06:37:56 PM
Amen!

It's seems like most people in this industry have sold their souls, along with their ethics, morals, character and dignity. I love how they will defend their chosen path, as if they are accomplishing something worth bragging about.  ::)

I totally agree. I can't help but pity anyone who pursues a career in this business. Good for those who make it, tough luck for anyone who chases the dream with a blindfold on...
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: knny187 on November 08, 2007, 06:39:07 PM
it's a beauty pageant
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: The_Schofeild_Kid on November 08, 2007, 06:41:21 PM
competitive bodybuilding = male beauty pageant

Do it for health, vanity and longevity but don't try to put it in the same category as boxing or hockey.


fixed
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: The Coach on November 08, 2007, 07:39:56 PM
it's a beauty pageant

.......and I'm gorgeous ;D!!
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on November 08, 2007, 08:14:44 PM
BUMPUS MAXIMUS!


Now that Earl has returned, we can continue to piss him off..... ;D

hey I just tell you what the dictionary says

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Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Livewire on November 09, 2007, 03:59:12 AM
hey I just tell you what the dictionary says

E

reality and the dictionary are 2 different things.  Noah Webster would laugh at pro bodybuilding.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: nder98 on November 09, 2007, 07:28:41 AM
WOW this is a very interesting thread.. I never seen this topic discussed before ::)
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: 20inch calves on November 09, 2007, 09:41:04 AM
Captain Equipoise hit right on the head.

I've competed and I can also tell you that both hockey AND boxers train much harder than Ronnie and Jay, some boxers even have to diet to make weight!



i don't agree. bbers train hard. doing cardio on an empty stomach. training hungry. waking up hungry. going to bed hungry. a competitive bber is a very disciplined and work very hard. bbing is one of the toughest things a person can do in my opinion
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: gordiano on November 09, 2007, 10:02:03 AM


i don't agree. bbers train hard. doing cardio on an empty stomach. training hungry. waking up hungry. going to bed hungry. a competitive bber is a very disciplined and work very hard. bbing is one of the toughest things a person can do in my opinion

I don't think anyone here is denying that bbing is tough. It is just not a sport.....
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Earl1972 on November 09, 2007, 10:08:10 AM
reality and the dictionary are 2 different things.  Noah Webster would laugh at pro bodybuilding.

dictionary > your opinion

E
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: The Coach on November 09, 2007, 10:19:16 AM


i don't agree. bbers train hard. doing cardio on an empty stomach. training hungry. waking up hungry. going to bed hungry. a competitive bber is a very disciplined and work very hard. bbing is one of the toughest things a person can do in my opinion

Your talking about discipline as compared to training, cardio on an empty stomach is not smart nor effective and again, the hunger part is discipline not training harder, as a matter of fact training the last few weeks before a show is just basically going through the motions, it's not productive training simply because you are too drained to be productive.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: knny187 on November 09, 2007, 11:24:43 AM
.......and I'm gorgeous ;D!!

beauty is in the eye of the beholder
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 09, 2007, 12:02:38 PM
I don't think anyone here is denying that bbing is tough. It is just not a sport.....

Exactly, like I've said a hundred times, it's a male version of Miss Universe, without the talent section...
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on November 11, 2007, 09:29:32 AM
Your talking about discipline as compared to training, cardio on an empty stomach is not smart nor effective and again, the hunger part is discipline not training harder, as a matter of fact training the last few weeks before a show is just basically going through the motions, it's not productive training simply because you are too drained to be productive.

I've read what Milos does... and it really sounds like you're hurting more than you should be.  I dont know if its overdieting or what, but you'll be starving for a long time now.
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: The Coach on November 11, 2007, 10:24:14 AM
I've read what Milos does... and it really sounds like you're hurting more than you should be.  I dont know if its overdieting or what, but you'll be starving for a long time now.

What Milos does and what I do are obviously two different things and again, two different philosophys, I don't agree with Milos and Milos don't agree with me. Again, look at today current conditioning and look at "yesterdays" conditioning......

This is an example of "yesterdays" conditioning or old school from 1981, if this is the results of "hurting" well...then I'm hurting....

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/Danny81olympia3.jpg)


Even thought Milos will never say the actual amounts of insulin he recommends, I know for a fact what he recommends will seriously damage organs and jack up your endocrine system worse than any steriod.


Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 11, 2007, 10:30:16 AM
What Milos does and what I do are obviously two different things and again, two different philosophys, I don't agree with Milos and Milos don't agree with me. Again, look at today current conditioning and look at "yesterdays" conditioning......

This is an example of "yesterdays" conditioning or old school from 1981, if this is the results of "hurting" well...then I'm hurting....

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/Danny81olympia3.jpg)


Even thought Milos will never say the actual amounts of insulin he recommends, I know for a fact what he recommends will seriously damage organs and jack up your endocrine system worse than any steriod.



wisdom children wisdom
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on November 11, 2007, 10:38:10 AM
What Milos does and what I do are obviously two different things and again, two different philosophys, I don't agree with Milos and Milos don't agree with me. Again, look at today current conditioning and look at "yesterdays" conditioning......

This is an example of "yesterdays" conditioning or old school from 1981, if this is the results of "hurting" well...then I'm hurting....

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/Danny81olympia3.jpg)


Even thought Milos will never say the actual amounts of insulin he recommends, I know for a fact what he recommends will seriously damage organs and jack up your endocrine system worse than any steriod.




gotcha.  yeah, you seem like a guy who studies this stuff a lot
Title: Re: So bodybuilding ISN'T a sport...
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 11, 2007, 11:37:07 AM
Bodybuilding is a corporation and only those who run the shit make millions. They're just like most politicians. They simply don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. More for them less for everyone else. The Wieders suck the devil's cock on a daily basis.
u are on the money there