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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: gh15 on July 20, 2007, 12:36:35 PM
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Can you give me a brief explanation of t-3?
It's effects?
Level of safety?
Where it can be bought or gotten a hold of?
ill put it in simple terms understood to anyone
effects = the best fat burning product on planet earth right there with ephedrine,,i would put it before ephedrine but the diff is t3 is merciless and ephedrine can be abused,,you will die/get sick but ephedrine can be abused,,t3 CANT
abusing t3,,iuncreasing doses to high ones if you dont have enough muscle mass for those doses and enough food around you,,will result in you losing fat and muscle at the same rate,, so doses for 200lb bodybuilder should be kept at25-75mcg 100mcg+ go for the bigger lifters and they better know how to use it right
what im trying to say in general is that if youre 210lb guy takin t3 at 200-300mcg a day,,you better sit in macdonalds for your 5 daily meals and order everything double,,there are people who do it and their excuse for them eating so much junk and staying so lean is stomack ulcers or problems from young age while in realiy they just overdose on t3 in addition to high metabolism to begin with in addition to lifting and looking athletic,,those are usually the people who look athletic and lean with veins sticking everywhere while eating junk all day none stop,,its a way to look decent but its not a way to be a bodybuilder
safety level is high if you know what you are doing,,takin 900mcg at one dose will result in problems for anyone,,its common used product and i yet to hear anyone having problem with using t3
it can be bought anywhere online now days,,its considered for research,,buy a mouce
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fuck me, if that's the most goddamm fucken stupid deadly shit I've ever read on getbig...get the fuck off this board you asswipe
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fuck me, if that's the most goddamm fucken stupid deadly shit I've ever read on getbig...get the fuck off this board you asswipe
for an educated guy you surprise me Garraeth, GH didn't advise abusing it but using it responsibly, everything in moderation, would i do it? hell no but people should be allowed to put whatever they want into their own bodies.
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why you call him an educated guy?
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fuck me, if that's the most goddamm fucken stupid deadly shit I've ever read on getbig...get the fuck off this board you asswipe
why is it "fucken stupid deadly shit"?
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why you call him an educated guy?
he graduated from one of the most prestigious universities in this country, Brigham Young University in Salt Lake City, Utah.
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he graduated from one of the most prestigious universities in this country, Brigham Young University in Salt Lake City, Utah.
i would never have guessed from his posts
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for an educated guy you surprise me Garraeth, GH didn't advise abusing it but using it responsibly, everything in moderation, would i do it? hell no but people should be allowed to put whatever they want into their own bodies.
He said: "ephedrine can be abused,,you will die/get sick but ephedrine can be abused,,t3 CANT"
You ever try popping 75mg of T3 (that can't be abused, remember) cold turkey? I have -- at bodyweight of 295lbs. Bout killed me.
oh, and the meltdown above was just to get your all's attension...it worked :D
Hopefully people will think twice before taking gh15's advice...
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He said: "ephedrine can be abused,,you will die/get sick but ephedrine can be abused,,t3 CANT"
You ever try popping 75mg of T3 (that can't be abused, remember) cold turkey? I have -- at bodyweight of 295lbs. Bout killed me.
actually i think it was the other way around man, i think he said that ephedrine can be abused but T3 can't.
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here's what he said
effects = the best fat burning product on planet earth right there with ephedrine,,i would put it before ephedrine but the diff is t3 is merciless and ephedrine can be abused,,you will die/get sick but ephedrine can be abused,,t3 CANT
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actually i think it was the other way around man, i think he said that ephedrine can be abused but T3 can't.
heh, yea...he's smoking crack, T3 can EASILY be abused and very dangerous!
After that near death experience, I backed off to 12.5mg/day and was ok.
sorry..gotta go...mneeting
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so ephedrine can be abused and it wont kill you but t3 will kill you if you use too much correct? so therefore abusing it is not even an option
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heh, yea...he's smoking crack, T3 can EASILY be abused and very dangerous!
After that near death experience, I backed off to 12.5mg/day and was ok.
no you're not understanding what he meant, he means "T3 CAN'T" be abused because if you abuse it you will die or get sick, he doesn't mean that you can use unlimited amounts of it.
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i once dosed 50mgs and on leg day. man after every squat set i was fadin in and out. but this is no way anyones fault other than mine. to say the least i back up on the doses.
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so ephedrine can be abused and it wont kill you but t3 will kill you if you use too much correct? so therefore abusing it is not even an option
bingo, that's exactly what he meant.
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mr gareth should learn to read english and i promise i will learn how to write then with no ,, ,,
you can abuse ephedrine,,not recomended but you can if you want,,
you can not abuse t3 even if you want because results aint no pretty
you most likley wont die from neither but use in moderation to enhance your physiqe according to your size/lean muscle
at 280lb anything 75mcg t3 is perfectly fine cold turky as long as you are on minimal doses of syntethics hormones,,
most 240lb bodybuilder take 100-200mcg a day like it was vitamins
conclusion of the night
squadfather = smart
gareth = less smart
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bingo, that's exactly what he meant.
I am sure that your fried twinky diet will offset any danger T3/clen poses
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gh15 thanks for the info
Squadfather thanks for clearring it up, i was confused too
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i was alwasy told that clen was more powerful than ephedrine until i started posting on here and read gh15's posts, what's up with that? i like clen and have never done ephedrine, are the sides with ephedrine as bad as clen? i get head aches and severe shakiness on the clen.
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i think gh15 gives pretty sound advice, even if he is a drug dealer his info is much apreciated on here. the hatas need to get some hata blocka sunglasses.
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i was alwasy told that clen was more powerful than ephedrine until i started posting on here and read gh15's posts, what's up with that? i like clen and have never done ephedrine, are the sides with ephedrine as bad as clen? i get head aches and severe shakiness on the clen.
none of that rapid loud heart beat, shakes, with ephedrine. Better at burning fat imo. Faster too. After about 3 days you wont even realize your on it.
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Coach, are you a contest prep (guru) trainer/dietician?
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I am getting lean, but not at the rate that I'd like so that's why I asked.
Garreth, don't be a nazi. He said the stuff was dangerous and it's not like he told people to pop 100mg right off the bat.
How would 10mg be? Is that a safe amount? Sorry to hear about you experiences, garreth. Do shed some light on this stuff.
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none of that rapid loud heart beat, shakes, with ephedrine. Better at burning fat imo. Faster too. After about 3 days you wont even realize your on it.
is the reason clen is valued above ephedrine sometimes just because of it's long half life?
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i think its just the hype. Like some think that winny is going to rip the shit out of you. personally i hate clen. I can go to 200mcg day and i still find it highly over rated. Definatley not worth the sides.
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i think its just the hype. Like some think that winny is going to rip the shit out of you. personally i hate clen. I can go to 200mcg day and i still find it highly over rated. Definatley not worth the sides.
I had exactly the same experience regarding the clen.
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this isnt rocket science people... thyroid manipulation isn't a joke.
Take it correctly and it will help in fat burning obviously, but i cant imagine anyone going over 100mg/day? Thats fucking retarded. Screw up once, and you may have to take t3 the rest of your life.
gh15, u ever heard bodybuilder stories of liquid t3 being used? As I know this is only used in the emergency room... but wouldnt be surprised
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I'm taking ephedrine and it feels just like meth. I get so amped up for about 2 hours that people think I'm some sort of meth addict or something because I just keep talking and all these ideas going through my head and I'm running around like a chicken with his head cut off.
I don't get the shakey-shakeys like Clen used to do and I never got any stim from Clen, just raised body temp.
How would the effects of T-3 differ?
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I'm taking ephedrine and it feels just like meth. I get so amped up for about 2 hours that people think I'm some sort of meth addict or something because I just keep talking and all these ideas going through my head and I'm running around like a chicken with his head cut off.
I don't get the shakey-shakeys like Clen used to do and I never got any stim from Clen, just raised body temp.
How would the effects of T-3 differ?
Do it for a few days and it'll wear off. Ephedrine feels normal to me now, even at 75mg-100mg a day.
Take it with like 5 espresso shots and you'll feel pretty crazy. ;D Sweat like crazy too.
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can t3 be bought anywhere, or is it illegal without a prescription? (sorry for my ignorance) 8)
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basically its like putting your thyroid (metabolism) on steroids.
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Do it for a few days and it'll wear off. Ephedrine feels normal to me now, even at 75mg-100mg a day.
Take it with like 5 espresso shots and you'll feel pretty crazy. ;D Sweat like crazy too.
y are u going above 50mg? thats really just a waste of money as your receptors will be fried soon. Ephedrine isnt a "more is better" thing. If your raising the dosage to 'get more out of it', then u should take about a month or two off to let receptors refresh.
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y are u going above 50mg? thats really just a waste of money as your receptors will be fried soon. Ephedrine isnt a "more is better" thing. If your raising the dosage to 'get more out of it', then u should take about a month or two off to let receptors refresh.
Oh god....not the "fried receptors" myth.
Say geniuses,,,,How many IU's are in 5mg ?
I'm looking at a box of Saizen 5mg (online of course). So how many iu is that????
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I'm taking ephedrine and it feels just like meth. I get so amped up for about 2 hours that people think I'm some sort of meth addict or something because I just keep talking and all these ideas going through my head and I'm running around like a chicken with his head cut off.
Yep, that's how it feels, combine it with 200mg of Caffeine and it's pretty potent. It's nowhere near meth in the high it gives you though. Also the comedown is so much more mild, although it can be a bit depressing though. Chemically it's pretty close to meth, around 2 reactions and it's there... :)
Good thing about Ephedrine is that as far as I can tell from my experiences with it is that it isn't addictive. At least not to me. I've heard some people say that they got addicted to it, but I find it hard to believe. Probably just reliant on it.
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Oh god....not the "fried receptors" myth.
Say geniuses,,,,How many IU's are in 5mg ?
I'm looking at a box of Saizen 5mg (online of course). So how many iu is that????
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guess i should of left it up to the expert here huh "vinny" ::)
So what your telling me is when your body stops responding (ex: no more raised temp as with clen) its just a fairy inside messing with your brain right?
dont bother replying as your lack of sense is apparent.
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guess i should of left it up to the expert here huh "vinny" ::)
So what your telling me is when your body stops responding (ex: no more raised temp as with clen) its just a fairy inside messing with your brain right?
dont bother replying as your lack of sense is apparent.
No by all means, allow me.
First define "receptor" for all of us here as clearly this is net jargon your just parroting. Some shit you've read over and over.
Yeah there is a ceiling I believe. But not with the compound that's in a thyroid med.
Also to my knowledge clen does not by itself raise your body temp. If it does, it's barely fckn noticeable.
I've used 200mcg a day and am pretty sure my temp never raised a whole lot if any!
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Yep, that's how it feels, combine it with 200mg of Caffeine and it's pretty potent. It's nowhere near meth in the high it gives you though. Also the comedown is so much more mild, although it can be a bit depressing though. Chemically it's pretty close to meth, around 2 reactions and it's there... :)
Good thing about Ephedrine is that as far as I can tell from my experiences with it is that it isn't addictive. At least not to me. I've heard some people say that they got addicted to it, but I find it hard to believe. Probably just reliant on it.
Yeah, I do take some capsules that have caffeine in them with the ephedrine and the aspirin. I only take 1 Bronkaid/day. Usually drink it all down with a Diet Coke which has an additional 45mg of caffeine. New Pepsi Max has about 70mg per can. I don't drink coffee. Smells good but tastes like shitt to me.
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heh, yea...he's smoking crack, T3 can EASILY be abused and very dangerous!
After that near death experience, I backed off to 12.5mg/day and was ok.
sorry..gotta go...mneeting
I don't udnerstand garreth. How do you take t3 and are still overweight?
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guess i should of left it up to the expert here huh "vinny" ::)
So what your telling me is when your body stops responding (ex: no more raised temp as with clen) its just a fairy inside messing with your brain right?
dont bother replying as your lack of sense is apparent.
Ephedrine doesn't stop working over time. In fact the effect is increased over time. Just check the studies if you want.
Regarding what you said about T3 possibly messing your thyroid for life; it's a myth as well. You can take it for years and when you get off the thyroid rebounds. There are cases in the literature of T3 use for 30 years straight and the thyroid recovered.
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Coach, are you a contest prep (guru) trainer/dietician?
Guru? No one's a "guru". Do I know what I'm doing.......yes!
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How much meth have you guys done? The only thing that ever felt like meth to me is...meth. (Yum!)
I can't stand how ephedrine makes me feel but I make myself take some before cardio just to give me a boost.
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How much meth have you guys done? The only thing that ever felt like meth to me is...meth. (Yum!)
I can't stand how ephedrine makes me feel but I make myself take some before cardio just to give me a boost.
I've only done it about a dozen times or so, meth is the ultimate compound for upping your metabolism. The last time I did meth was about three years ago, I don't think I'll muck around with it any more. Too much potential for abuse/addiction.
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I've only done it about a dozen times or so, meth is the ultimate compound for upping your metabolism. The last time I did meth was about three years ago, I don't think I'll muck around with it any more. Too much potential for abuse/addiction.
Too much potential for tooth decay, skin abrasions, massive delirium, etc...
Just keep it simple I say. 8)
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For me the sign ephedrine is no longer working is it makes me very lethargic. Normally 2-3 tabs w/ minimal caffine will do the trick. ABB speed stack+ 1 bronkaid = the greatest buzz ever. When that buzz starts to make me tired I know its time for a little break. I used to go off for about 2 weeks at a time. Now when i cycle the ephedrine i dont take it every day. Say 1on 2 off or vice versa depending on my activity level. I keep my body guessing and as far as longevity is concerned, it works much more effective that way IMO
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Too much potential for tooth decay, skin abrasions, massive delirium, etc...
Just keep it simple I say. 8)
That's because meth addicts scratch, don't brush their teeth etc. I've heard of college students using it for studying and staying up..
Would never touch it.. Seems like low class. Just do coke or something. :P
And heavy caffine, like 300 mg gives you and awesome head buzz, just cerebral and awesome! Along with ephedrine it makes your heart jump and just fucking crazy. ;D
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Garraeth and Milos should go out on a date. They look so cute together. Milos shakes got all his clients at the gym talking. ;)
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Garraeth and Milos should go out on a date. They look so cute together. Milos shakes got all his clients at the gym talking. ;)
they do look nice together :)
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no you're not understanding what he meant, he means "T3 CAN'T" be abused because if you abuse it you will die or get sick, he doesn't mean that you can use unlimited amounts of it.
ahh he needs to write better English -- we all know he can when not using his gimmick cover.
But either way, his amounts are way too high and he doesn't explain how to use it properly. So even if you take a moderate amount initially, you're screwed. And imo, you shouldn't take it at all unless you're really experienced with such things. And really researched it. So some neophyte who asks an anon guy is not experienced with such things.
And it bout made my head explode and heart rip apart. Constant pain in my whole left side and mad pressure in my ears for several days -- scared the hell out of me.
Nothing to screw with.
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i dont know what kind of t3 you used buddy but it sounds more like you health problem to begin with,,
dim dim dim dim dim dim dim dim should ring in your head from day to night and to the next day go to doc and tell him what you felt and where and check it out because those signs are signs of heart attack and or stroke in the making,,or atleast potential for one,,when left side hurt severely for couple days to a point of not being able to function right,,sharp short/long pains repetevly occuring,,its time to go to doc and make sure everything is ok,,this is when hormones come second to health,,those early signs,,you just described them
i dont know even one single person who ever EVER had even one single problem with cytomel/t3 at 25-150mcg a day,,higher doses i know couple pros and one australian amatuer who just got flat and lost some size and placed bad because all their prep was fucked up to begin with,,they had 8 week to prep insted of 16-20 thus were pressured to use high dose on the t3 but held too much bodyfat to begin with
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i dont know even one single person who ever EVER had even one single problem with cytomel/t3 at 25-150mcg a day,,higher doses i know couple pros and one australian amatuer who just got flat and lost some size and placed bad because all their prep was fucked up to begin with,,they had 8 week to prep insted of 16-20 thus were pressured to use high dose on the t3 but held too much bodyfat to begin with
Up to 150? For how long?
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for the duration of the prep,,you need to look alot in the mirror and let others who know bodybuilding and know you look at you and go according to that with t3,, with t3 you dont pack muscle mass on you but rip yourself up,,the muscle mass should already be there when you start using it,,
only way to gain muscle mass with t3 is to add insulin with optional gh to the aas
if you dont take insulin and growth,,t3 should be limited to prep/cutting time when geting down to very low single digit 5-7%
also t3 for the 200lb bodybuilder should not be at the 150mcg,,25-75mcg a day will do,,150mcg+ is for guys who walk around 250lb 9-10% on a regular basis meaning have long rich experience with hormones
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for the duration of the prep,,you need to look alot in the mirror and let others who know bodybuilding and know you look at you and go according to that with t3,, with t3 you dont pack muscle mass on you but rip yourself up,,the muscle mass should already be there when you start using it,,
only way to gain muscle mass with t3 is to add insulin with optional gh to the aas
if you dont take insulin and growth,,t3 should be limited to prep/cutting time when geting down to very low single digit 5-7%
also t3 for the 200lb bodybuilder should not be at the 150mcg,,25-75mcg a day will do,,150mcg+ is for guys who walk around 250lb 9-10% on a regular basis meaning have long rich experience with hormones
Ok, for once I agree.
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Ok, for once I agree.
You don't think 150mcg is too high? I thought for sure you'd think it was crazy.
I hope no one here jumps to 150mcg without ramping up slowly. Could get very uncomfortable otherwise.
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You don't think 150mcg is too high? I thought for sure you'd think it was crazy.
I hope no one here jumps to 150mcg without ramping up slowly. Could get very uncomfortable otherwise.
Either I read it wrong or misunderstood the post, 150mcg is a heart attack and shut down waiting to happen. I was agreeing with the 25-75mcg dose for the person thats 200lbs, but he never did answer me on how long.
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fuck me, if that's the most goddamm fucken stupid deadly shit I've ever read on getbig...get the fuck off this board you asswipe
Are u retarded ?...pardon my french...
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Wanted to clarify that T3 is measured in micrograms (mcg) NOT milligrams (mg) most know this, but not all I can see by reading some of the posts. Also, I would consider 100mcg about max on dose for a large guy 250 plus. Starting about 8 to 12 weeks out depending on how fat you are. I have known people to stay on t3 and t4 perscribed by Dr's mistakenly for years and had no problems when they came off.