pm question answered

[climber]

i think its just the hype. Like some think that winny is going to rip the shit out of you. personally i hate clen. I can go to 200mcg day and i still find it highly over rated. Definatley not worth the sides.

I had exactly the same experience regarding the clen.

[boonstack]

this isnt rocket science people... thyroid manipulation isn't a joke.

Take it correctly and it will help in fat burning obviously, but i cant imagine anyone going over 100mg/day? Thats fucking retarded. Screw up once, and you may have to take t3 the rest of your life.


gh15, u ever heard bodybuilder stories of liquid t3 being used? As I know this is only used in the emergency room... but wouldnt be surprised

[Special Ed]

I'm taking ephedrine and it feels just like meth. I get so amped up for about 2 hours that people think I'm some sort of meth addict or something because I just keep talking and all these ideas going through my head and I'm running around like a chicken with his head cut off.

I don't get the shakey-shakeys like Clen used to do and I never got any stim from Clen, just raised body temp.

How would the effects of T-3 differ?

[Camel Jockey]

I'm taking ephedrine and it feels just like meth. I get so amped up for about 2 hours that people think I'm some sort of meth addict or something because I just keep talking and all these ideas going through my head and I'm running around like a chicken with his head cut off.

I don't get the shakey-shakeys like Clen used to do and I never got any stim from Clen, just raised body temp.

How would the effects of T-3 differ?

Do it for a few days and it'll wear off. Ephedrine feels normal to me now, even at 75mg-100mg a day.

Take it with like 5 espresso shots and you'll feel pretty crazy.  Sweat like crazy too.

[climber]

can t3 be bought anywhere, or is it illegal without a prescription? (sorry for my ignorance) 

[boonstack]

basically its like putting your thyroid (metabolism) on steroids.

[boonstack]

Do it for a few days and it'll wear off. Ephedrine feels normal to me now, even at 75mg-100mg a day.

Take it with like 5 espresso shots and you'll feel pretty crazy.  Sweat like crazy too.

y are u going above 50mg? thats really just a waste of money as your receptors will be fried soon. Ephedrine isnt a "more is better" thing. If your raising the dosage to 'get more out of it', then u should take about a month or two off to let receptors refresh.

[vinnyvee]

y are u going above 50mg? thats really just a waste of money as your receptors will be fried soon. Ephedrine isnt a "more is better" thing. If your raising the dosage to 'get more out of it', then u should take about a month or two off to let receptors refresh.

Oh god....not the "fried receptors" myth.

Say geniuses,,,,How many IU's are in 5mg  ?
I'm looking at a box of Saizen 5mg (online of course). So how many iu is that?

[climber]

I'm taking ephedrine and it feels just like meth. I get so amped up for about 2 hours that people think I'm some sort of meth addict or something because I just keep talking and all these ideas going through my head and I'm running around like a chicken with his head cut off.

Yep, that's how it feels, combine it with 200mg of Caffeine and it's pretty potent. It's nowhere near meth in the high it gives you though. Also the comedown is so much more mild, although it can be a bit depressing though. Chemically it's pretty close to meth, around 2 reactions and it's there...
Good thing about Ephedrine is that as far as I can tell from my experiences with it is that it isn't addictive. At least not to me. I've heard some people say that they got addicted to it, but I find it hard to believe. Probably just reliant on it.

[boonstack]

Oh god....not the "fried receptors" myth.

Say geniuses,,,,How many IU's are in 5mg  ?
I'm looking at a box of Saizen 5mg (online of course). So how many iu is that?

guess i should of left it up to the expert here huh "vinny"
 
So what your telling me is when your body stops responding (ex: no more raised temp as with clen) its just a fairy inside messing with your brain right?

dont bother replying as your lack of sense is apparent.

[vinnyvee]

guess i should of left it up to the expert here huh "vinny"
 
So what your telling me is when your body stops responding (ex: no more raised temp as with clen) its just a fairy inside messing with your brain right?

dont bother replying as your lack of sense is apparent.

No by all means, allow me.
First define "receptor" for all of us here as clearly this is net jargon your just parroting. Some shit you've read over and over.
Yeah there is a ceiling I believe. But not with the compound that's in a thyroid med.
Also to my knowledge clen does not by itself raise your body temp. If it does, it's barely fckn noticeable.
I've used 200mcg a day and am pretty sure my temp never raised a whole lot if any!

[Special Ed]

Yep, that's how it feels, combine it with 200mg of Caffeine and it's pretty potent. It's nowhere near meth in the high it gives you though. Also the comedown is so much more mild, although it can be a bit depressing though. Chemically it's pretty close to meth, around 2 reactions and it's there...
Good thing about Ephedrine is that as far as I can tell from my experiences with it is that it isn't addictive. At least not to me. I've heard some people say that they got addicted to it, but I find it hard to believe. Probably just reliant on it.

Yeah, I do take some capsules that have caffeine in them with the ephedrine and the aspirin. I only take 1 Bronkaid/day. Usually drink it all down with a Diet Coke which has an additional 45mg of caffeine. New Pepsi Max has about 70mg per can.  I don't drink coffee. Smells good but tastes like shitt to me.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

heh, yea...he's smoking crack, T3 can EASILY be abused and very dangerous!

After that near death experience, I backed off to 12.5mg/day and was ok.







sorry..gotta go...mneeting

I don't udnerstand garreth. How do you take t3 and are still overweight?

[Van_Bilderass]

guess i should of left it up to the expert here huh "vinny"
 
So what your telling me is when your body stops responding (ex: no more raised temp as with clen) its just a fairy inside messing with your brain right?

dont bother replying as your lack of sense is apparent.

Ephedrine doesn't stop working over time. In fact the effect is increased over time. Just check the studies if you want.

Regarding what you said about T3 possibly messing your thyroid for life; it's a myth as well. You can take it for years and when you get off the thyroid rebounds. There are cases in the literature of T3 use for 30 years straight and the thyroid recovered.

[The Coach]

Coach, are you a contest prep (guru) trainer/dietician?

Guru? No one's a "guru". Do I know what I'm doing.......yes!

[Master Blaster]

How much meth have you guys done? The only thing that ever felt like meth to me is...meth. (Yum!)

I can't stand how ephedrine makes me feel but I make myself take some before cardio just to give me a boost.

[climber]

How much meth have you guys done? The only thing that ever felt like meth to me is...meth. (Yum!)

I can't stand how ephedrine makes me feel but I make myself take some before cardio just to give me a boost.

I've only done it about a dozen times or so, meth is the ultimate compound for upping your metabolism. The last time I did meth was about three years ago, I don't think I'll muck around with it any more. Too much potential for abuse/addiction.

[vinnyvee]

I've only done it about a dozen times or so, meth is the ultimate compound for upping your metabolism. The last time I did meth was about three years ago, I don't think I'll muck around with it any more. Too much potential for abuse/addiction.

Too much potential for tooth decay, skin abrasions, massive delirium, etc...
Just keep it simple I say.

[SWOLETRAIN]

For me the sign ephedrine is no longer working is it makes me very lethargic. Normally 2-3 tabs w/ minimal caffine will do the trick. ABB speed stack+ 1 bronkaid = the greatest buzz ever. When that buzz starts to make me tired I know its time for a little break. I used to go off for about 2 weeks at a time. Now when i cycle the ephedrine i dont take it every day. Say 1on 2 off or vice versa depending on my activity level. I keep my body guessing and as far as longevity is concerned, it works much more effective that way IMO

[Camel Jockey]

Too much potential for tooth decay, skin abrasions, massive delirium, etc...
Just keep it simple I say.

That's because meth addicts scratch, don't brush their teeth etc. I've heard of college students using it for studying and staying up..

Would never touch it.. Seems like low class. Just do coke or something.  

And heavy caffine, like 300 mg gives you and awesome head buzz, just cerebral and awesome! Along with ephedrine it makes your heart jump and just fucking crazy. 

[sgt. d]

Garraeth and Milos should go out on a date. They look so cute together. Milos shakes got all his clients at the gym talking.

[bigdumbbell]

Garraeth and Milos should go out on a date. They look so cute together. Milos shakes got all his clients at the gym talking.

they do look nice together   

[garraeth]

no you're not understanding what he meant, he means "T3 CAN'T" be abused because if you abuse it you will die or get sick, he doesn't mean that you can use unlimited amounts of it.

ahh he needs to write better English -- we all know he can when not using his gimmick cover.

But either way, his amounts are way too high and he doesn't explain how to use it properly. So even if you take a moderate amount initially, you're screwed. And imo, you shouldn't take it at all unless you're really experienced with such things. And really researched it. So some neophyte who asks an anon guy is not experienced with such things.

And it bout made my head explode and heart rip apart. Constant pain in my whole left side and mad pressure in my ears for several days -- scared the hell out of me.

Nothing to screw with.

[gh15]

i dont know what kind of t3 you used buddy but it sounds more like you health problem to begin with,,
dim dim dim dim dim dim dim dim should ring in your head from day to night and to the next day go to doc and tell him what you felt and where and check it out because those signs are signs of heart attack and or stroke in the making,,or atleast potential for one,,when left side hurt severely for couple days to a point of not being able to function right,,sharp short/long pains repetevly occuring,,its time to go to doc and make sure everything is ok,,this is when hormones come second to health,,those early signs,,you just described them

i dont know even one single person who ever EVER had even one single problem with cytomel/t3 at 25-150mcg a day,,higher doses i know couple pros and one australian amatuer who just got flat and lost some size and placed bad because all their prep was fucked up to begin with,,they had 8 week to prep insted of 16-20 thus were pressured to use high dose on the t3 but held too much bodyfat to begin with

[The Coach]

i dont know even one single person who ever EVER had even one single problem with cytomel/t3 at 25-150mcg a day,,higher doses i know couple pros and one australian amatuer who just got flat and lost some size and placed bad because all their prep was fucked up to begin with,,they had 8 week to prep insted of 16-20 thus were pressured to use high dose on the t3 but held too much bodyfat to begin with

Up to 150? For how long?