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Title: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: The Squadfather on October 03, 2007, 04:26:11 PM
Ronnie Rockel and Hide, discuss.
Title: Re: THE TWO MOST UNDERRATED GUYS AT THE OLYMPIA WERE............
Post by: Chick on October 03, 2007, 04:30:14 PM
THink I would go with David Henry and Darrem Charles...
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Post by: The Squadfather on October 03, 2007, 04:31:26 PM
THink I would go with David Henry and Darrem Charles...
what do you think about Rockel especially Bob? i would have loved to have seen him called out with Dexter.
Title: Re: THE TWO MOST UNDERRATED GUYS AT THE OLYMPIA WERE............
Post by: haider on October 03, 2007, 04:32:18 PM
what do you think about Rockel especially Bob? i would have loved to have seen him called out with Dexter.
too bad his back was paper thin.
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Post by: Ozzy on October 03, 2007, 04:36:58 PM
Hide, definately.
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Post by: Chick on October 03, 2007, 04:37:03 PM
what do you think about Rockel especially Bob? i would have loved to have seen him called out with Dexter.

Unfortunatly... (for Ronny)...they were worlds apart...no comparison needed.
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Post by: biceps on October 03, 2007, 04:37:07 PM
too bad his back was paper thin.

Vince Taylor
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 03, 2007, 04:41:17 PM
THink I would go with David Henry and Darrem Charles...

Thank you ! David Henry was huge ( pound for pound ) ripped and pretty well balanced , he looked fantastic.
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Post by: nuyork143 on October 03, 2007, 04:43:43 PM
THink I would go with David Henry and Darrem Charles...

David Henry is awesome.  I was stationed with him years ago, and he was not nearly as big back then. 
The one thing I dont understand is how he passes the AF drug tests...
Title: Re: THE TWO MOST UNDERRATED GUYS AT THE OLYMPIA WERE............
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 03, 2007, 04:45:02 PM
I mean look at his thickness and conditioning amazing !
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Post by: The Squadfather on October 03, 2007, 04:45:42 PM
I mean look at his thickness and conditioning amazing !
he looked great no doubt.
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Post by: Matt C on October 03, 2007, 04:45:46 PM
Thank you ! David Henry was huge ( pound for pound ) ripped and pretty well balanced , he looked fantastic.

I agree.  But I think a man of 5'3, as well as a man of 6'4 (Quincy Taylor) can only hope to place at the very best in the top eight if they do everything right.  Bodybuilding is not meant for those of extreme heights.
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Post by: Ozzy on October 03, 2007, 04:47:24 PM
David Henry is awesome.  I was stationed with him years ago, and he was not nearly as big back then. 
The one thing I dont understand is how he passes the AF drug tests...


Easy, they don't test for AS in the Air Force. Or the Army, as far as I know. Only narcotics and the like.

Plus, he's not active anymore, so he never gets tested.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 03, 2007, 04:48:45 PM
I agree.  But I think a man of 5'3, as well as a man of 6'4 (Quincy Taylor) can only hope to place at the very best in the top eight if they do everything right.  Bodybuilding is not meant for those of extreme heights.

Which would explain why Shawn Ray never won  ;)
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 03, 2007, 04:51:20 PM
David had one of the best backs at the Olympia
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: Ozzy on October 03, 2007, 04:52:23 PM
What's with the lack of calves at the O this year?
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Post by: Matt C on October 03, 2007, 04:53:54 PM
Which would explain why Shawn Ray never won  ;)

Exactly.  You do need some degree of stature.  I would say you need to be a minimum of 5'8 to be Mr. Olympia and 5'5 to place in the top six.
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Post by: nuyork143 on October 03, 2007, 04:56:10 PM

Easy, they don't test for AS in the Air Force. Or the Army, as far as I know. Only narcotics and the like.

Plus, he's not active anymore, so he never gets tested.

Now that is an ignorant statement.  I am in the AF and yes they do test for AS.  Also just because he's not active anymore doesnt mean he doesnt get tested.
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: Ozzy on October 03, 2007, 04:56:58 PM
Oh really?


Because I'm in the Army and I can tell you that they don't. Reserve almost never get tested, as well.
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 03, 2007, 04:57:25 PM
What's with the lack of calves at the O this year?

Its been like that ever since Coleman took over !
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: ironneck on October 03, 2007, 04:59:30 PM
rockel is one of the best!
Title: Re: THE TWO MOST UNDERRATED GUYS AT THE OLYMPIA WERE............
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 03, 2007, 05:00:16 PM
Exactly.  You do need some degree of stature.  I would say you need to be a minimum of 5'8 to be Mr. Olympia and 5'5 to place in the top six.

In this day and age 5'8" is pushing it , Cutler is lucky ( in more ways than one )  if he's 5'9" the average seems to be 5'10" - 5'11" there will be another tall bodybuilder come along 6'2" and he will dominate like no one else , the advent of drugs today a tall guy can really fill out his frame and when he does watch out ! the problem with taller guys is legs they always seem to small for their physiques .
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: Ozzy on October 03, 2007, 05:00:38 PM
Now that is an ignorant statement.  I am in the AF and yes they do test for AS.  Also just because he's not active anymore doesnt mean he doesnt get tested.

Hahaha, this guy thinks they test for high blood testosterone levels in the military.
Title: Re: THE TWO MOST UNDERRATED GUYS AT THE OLYMPIA WERE............
Post by: Bluto on October 03, 2007, 05:04:01 PM
what do you think about Rockel especially Bob? i would have loved to have seen him called out with Dexter.

why would they call out dex #3 with rockel #11
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: Dballn247 on October 03, 2007, 05:04:55 PM
Hide was one of the most, if the most shredded person on stage.
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: ironneck on October 03, 2007, 05:07:04 PM
Hide was one of the most, if the most shredded person on stage.

hide had the best conditioning on stage
i can say that by only seeing pics..
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: Bluto on October 03, 2007, 05:08:04 PM
better than dexter? no.
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: Dballn247 on October 03, 2007, 05:16:08 PM
better than dexter? no.


Yes, dexter was bigger but not as dry.
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: ironneck on October 03, 2007, 05:22:46 PM
look at that shredded japanese
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: nuyork143 on October 03, 2007, 05:25:49 PM
Hahaha, this guy thinks they test for high blood testosterone levels in the military.

Youre retarded if you think they cant detect AS in your urine...what an idiot!!!!!
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: Andre Nickatina on October 03, 2007, 05:31:04 PM
Youre retarded if you think they cant detect AS in your urine...what an idiot!!!!!
Sometimes on Getbig you just have to let people live on the ignorant side.
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: nuyork143 on October 03, 2007, 05:33:55 PM
Sometimes on Getbig you just have to let people live on the ignorant side.

I guess so, I have been in the AF for 10 yrs and have personally seen 3 individuals get the boot from roids.
Im not saying that they are bad, its just something you cant do in the military...
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 03, 2007, 05:56:36 PM
rockel and henry are as good as dexter, i dont get why dex always places so far ahead of them when there is so little difference between them
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: nuyork143 on October 03, 2007, 05:57:37 PM
rockel and henry are as good as dexter, i dont get why dex always places so far ahead of them when there is so little difference between them

Agreed!
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: thisiskeith12 on October 03, 2007, 05:58:29 PM
Will Harris brought it to this year's Olympia too! Hide did the best he could and should have probably placed higher. The bad thing for Hide is that his story was overshadowed by the many other stories going on at the time.
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: nycbull on October 03, 2007, 06:02:34 PM
Rockel has the best looking face though, doesn't that count for something?
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: haider on October 03, 2007, 06:05:36 PM
Rockel has the best looking face though, doesn't that count for something?
if you're a gay homosexual, yes.
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: candidizzle on October 03, 2007, 06:25:18 PM
i thought joj should have placed higher.

heres how i thought it should have went

wolf
vic
dex
jay
melvin
joj
rockel
silvio
henry
Title: Re: THE TWO MOST UNDERRATED GUYS AT THE OLYMPIA WERE............
Post by: Danny on October 03, 2007, 06:50:28 PM
THink I would go with David Henry and Darrem Charles...

Darrem "no legs" Charles...??  ::) I agree with David Henry but Darrem....c'mmon... :-\ Ronnie Rockel was definitely underrated and yes Hide deserved to place a couple of spots higher...
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: G o a t b o y on October 03, 2007, 06:57:18 PM
Dude needs to lay off the hair gel...  he looks like a Japanese guido!


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=172920.0;attach=200819;image)
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: delta9mda on October 03, 2007, 07:53:29 PM
hide had the best conditioning on stage
i can say that by only seeing pics..

was there, hide had soem hellofa damn good condition. rockel needs a back.
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: musclecenter on October 03, 2007, 09:23:23 PM
hide had the best conditioning on stage
i can say that by only seeing pics..
Agree
Most competitors are not in  best conditioning (Cutler included)
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: Matt C on October 03, 2007, 09:36:13 PM
Oh really?


Because I'm in the Army and I can tell you that they don't. Reserve almost never get tested, as well.

In the Canadian Forces, I don't recall being tested for any type of drug ever, even when I joined.

In this day and age 5'8" is pushing it , Cutler is lucky ( in more ways than one )  if he's 5'9" the average seems to be 5'10" - 5'11" there will be another tall bodybuilder come along 6'2" and he will dominate like no one else , the advent of drugs today a tall guy can really fill out his frame and when he does watch out ! the problem with taller guys is legs they always seem to small for their physiques .

I think you're right about 5'10-5'11 being more appropriate.  It is a very, very small window.  Anything shorter than around 5'10 and anything over 5'11 puts competitors at height disadvantages.  Jay is 5'9, which is close, almost too close, but given his size, I can understand why he won (at least in 2006).
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Post by: nycbull on October 03, 2007, 09:39:35 PM
if you're a gay homosexual, yes.

thats redundant, but anyway I am, and your wrong. I think judges and audiences are very influenced by good looking, and or charming competitors.

Rockel is a good looking guy I dont think you have to be gay to admit that.  
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: haider on October 03, 2007, 09:40:34 PM
thats redundant, but anyway I am, and your wrong. I think judges and audiences are very influenced by good looking, and or charming competitors.

Rockel is a good looking guy I dont think you have to be gay to admit that.  
That only suggests that all the judges and audience are gay homosexuals like yourself  :-\
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: Deicide on October 03, 2007, 09:44:48 PM
i thought joj should have placed higher.

heres how i thought it should have went :o

wolf
vic
dex
jay
melvin
joj
rockel
silvio
henry


Holy fucking shit. Kid, do you do this on purpose? I think some geneticist should test for neanderthal dna in you. You could well be a missing link!
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: nycbull on October 03, 2007, 09:56:13 PM
That only suggests that all the judges and audience are gay homosexuals like yourself  :-\

I can see how you feel that way being unattractive yourself. It must be safer to assume looks play no part in a persons life, being that you dont have any.
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: haider on October 03, 2007, 09:59:35 PM
I can see how you feel that way being unattractive yourself. It must be safer to assume looks play no part in a persons life, being that you dont have any.
hahaha angry gay man meltdown :D Long day huh?  ;)
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: candidizzle on October 03, 2007, 10:04:46 PM
Holy fucking shit. Kid, do you do this on purpose? I think some geneticist should test for neanderthal dna in you. You could well be a missing link!
yeah i know i should really pay more attention to my online grammar, punctuation, and spelling. ::)
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: nycbull on October 03, 2007, 10:09:08 PM
hahaha angry gay man meltdown :D Long day huh?  ;)

its getting longer with this boring conversation...shouldnt you be helping jaejonna take better pictures for the Mr. Getbig. You seem to be an expert in photographing men in posing trunks.
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: haider on October 04, 2007, 10:28:29 AM
its getting longer with this boring conversation...shouldnt you be helping jaejonna take better pictures for the Mr. Getbig. You seem to be an expert in photographing men in posing trunks.
hahaha do you not like it when I call you a gay homosexual?  :D





























No seriously, calm the fvck down its only the internet and we're on getbig. I'm only messing around.. you've been here long enough to know that, you fuggin queer.
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: nuyork143 on October 04, 2007, 12:36:38 PM
hahaha do you not like it when I call you a gay homosexual?  :D

Well grammatically speaking it is a bit redundant.  A gay homosexual is a heterosexual.




























No seriously, calm the fvck down its only the internet and we're on getbig. I'm only messing around.. you've been here long enough to know that, you fuggin queer.
Title: Re: THE TWO MOST UNDERRATED GUYS AT THE OLYMPIA WERE............
Post by: cgcgraded on October 04, 2007, 01:42:31 PM
Unfortunatly... (for Ronny)...they were worlds apart...no comparison needed.

i swear bob some of the shit you say is straight up bullshit

(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r39/cgcgraded/untitledfdfdf.jpg)
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: ironneck on October 04, 2007, 01:46:33 PM
rockel pretty much kills that turtle
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Post by: Andre Nickatina on October 04, 2007, 01:50:46 PM
i swear bob some of the shit you say is straight up bullshit

(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r39/cgcgraded/untitledfdfdf.jpg)

Dexter is a whole lot better than Rockel.

Rockel is way shorter, and his lat taper and thickness from the front isn't nearly as good. Not to mention Dexter has better condition, with rounder, and bigger muscles.

If you don't know Rockel is as short as Priest.
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Post by: The Squadfather on October 04, 2007, 01:53:56 PM
Dexter is a whole lot better than Rockel.

Rockel is way shorter, and his lat taper and thickness from the front isn't nearly as good. Not to mention Dexter has better condition, with rounder, and bigger muscles.

If you don't know Rockel is as short as Priest.

hahahahahhahahaa, no offense but are you high? do you really think Dexter has better condition there?
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: Mars on October 04, 2007, 02:08:48 PM
Can someone be shorter than dexter? haha.
and rockell looked way better than the turtle.
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Post by: Stavios on October 04, 2007, 02:46:50 PM
THink I would go with David Henry and Darrem Charles...

they both placed RIGHT WHERE THEY DESERVED !

Darrem has been better and Henry is nothing special from the front, that's without saying that he can't pose to save his life

I think Henry got a very generous placing

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Post by: Andre Nickatina on October 04, 2007, 02:56:30 PM
hahahahahhahahaa, no offense but are you high? do you really think Dexter has better condition there?
LOL no i'm not sadly I can actually notice more hwen I am though.

I'd say their conditioning is about the same upon further review, but I still feel if it favors anyone it's Dexter.

Dex has great cuts in his obliques and the skin looks nonexistamt on his abs.

Ronnie has a good hard look to his physique.

(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/9683-3/2007-mr-olympia-375-dexter-jackson.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=88685eca28d82feb5017d9117b13066b)

(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/9468-3/2007-mr-olympia-354-ronny-rockel.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=88685eca28d82feb5017d9117b13066b)

(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/9131-4/2007-mr-olympia-327-ronny-rockel.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=88685eca28d82feb5017d9117b13066b)
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: Radical Plato on October 04, 2007, 03:13:17 PM
Sergey Shelestov is the most underrated pro going around.  Completely ignored at this years Olympia, didn't even place.  The man is a giant.
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: Radical Plato on October 04, 2007, 03:16:12 PM
Here is a pic of Sergey at this years Arnold dwarfing little david Henry, he even makes Big Luke Wood look small
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: Andre Nickatina on October 04, 2007, 03:45:53 PM
Sergey Shelestov is the most underrated pro going around.  Completely ignored at this years Olympia, didn't even place.  The man is a giant.
Soft  ;D

(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/9418-3/2007-mr-olympia-363-sergei-shelestov.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=88685eca28d82feb5017d9117b13066b)
Title: Re: Olympia: Two most underrated pros on stage!
Post by: The Squadfather on October 04, 2007, 03:49:32 PM
Soft  ;D

(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/9418-3/2007-mr-olympia-363-sergei-shelestov.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=88685eca28d82feb5017d9117b13066b)
very small arms for a pro.
Title: Re: THE TWO MOST UNDERRATED GUYS AT THE OLYMPIA WERE............
Post by: Chick on October 04, 2007, 04:11:56 PM
i swear bob some of the shit you say is straight up bullshit

(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r39/cgcgraded/untitledfdfdf.jpg)

Bullshit? I could care less what pictures look like...Dexter has a better build without question....if you were to see them IN PERSON, you wouldn't even question it...
Title: Re: THE TWO MOST UNDERRATED GUYS AT THE OLYMPIA WERE............
Post by: BuffD on October 04, 2007, 04:20:02 PM
Bullshit? I could care less what pictures look like...Dexter has a better build without question....if you were to see them IN PERSON, you wouldn't even question it...

Turn them around and you'll see the biggest difference.