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Oh yea... They proved it was done 100% in the HBO documentary Hacking Democracy. They obtained the machines, made exact counts and watched as the machine spit out a different count. rigged rigged rigged... Bush was NOT elected.
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Oh yea... They proved it was done 100% in the HBO documentary Hacking Democracy. They obtained the machines, made exact counts and watched as the machine spit out a different count. rigged rigged rigged... Bush was NOT elected.
Something over 90% of exposed voter fraud and other forms of "cheating" an election were done by groups supporting democrats. Look it up.
Bush won every recount, every time, despite every effort by loser ass dems to steal the election.
Get over it.
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Get over it.
Tell me about it.
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not sure who said this
It's Not the People Who Vote that Count; It's the People Who Count the Votes
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Bush won every recount, every time, despite every effort by loser ass dems to steal the election.
Get over it.
Why have the republicans sued for 3 years to prevent the 2004 Ohio ballots from being counted?
They would quickly verify who won Ohio - since the mysterious power-down and 1 in 50k chance polling oddities certainly cast doubt on who won.
Yet the repubs sued - and continue suing - to keep the simple counting of paper backups from being done. All this would do is VERIFY the electronic results, unless of course, someone cheated.
WHy have the repubs SUED to keep a perfectly legal and sensible count of paper backups from taking place?
PS>.. you won't answer this ;)
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Tell me about it.
funny - that's how I feel about Jesus.
It was a long time ago - who cares - just forget about it
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funny - that's how I feel about Jesus.
It was a long time ago - who cares - just forget about it
? Are you smoking again? What on earth does this mean?
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? Are you smoking again? What on earth does this mean?
it means why should we forget about the election fraud just because it happened in the past????
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it means why should we forget about the election fraud just because it happened in the past????
And what does Jesus have to do with this thread?
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And what does Jesus have to do with this thread?
it's mean to be ironic
Sorry I forgot you don't understand irony
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it's mean to be ironic
Sorry I forgot you don't understand irony
::) Go take another hit.
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::) Go take another hit.
Like I said, my apologies, I forget that you don't get irony
does the board really need another pissing contest?
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Like I said, my apologies, I forget that you don't get irony
does the board really need another pissing contest?
Yes, let's not derail this thread. You are free to continue your Sunday morning bong hit. I have nothing more to add.
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PS>.. you won't answer this ;)
Normally, you'd be right since it's pretty obvious no thinking person should listen/respond to you..
..but what the hey, I'm a nice guy.
The GOP is right to oppose constant and unending attempts to steal they're win from the sore losing democrats and left wing yahoos hell bent on undermining conservatives. These "verifications" are nothing more than that and should be defended against since they would undoubtedly open up the results to MORE fraud from the exact people who demand them so vehemently.
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I'm not surprised you don't understand this.
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These "verifications" are nothing more than that and should be defended against since they would undoubtedly open up the results to MORE fraud from the exact people who demand them so vehemently.
Why do they keep paper backups of electronic voting machines then?
If not to count them, especially in the face of power outages and polling oddities never seen in history.
Why even print the paper backups?
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These "verifications" are nothing more than that and should be defended against since they would undoubtedly open up the results to MORE fraud from the exact people who demand them so vehemently.
horrible logic.
Proving the election results CORRECT would lead to MORE accusations of fraud?
That is completely false. If the paper ballots matched the electronic results, most of the people complaining would STFU immediately.
I am now realizing you're a stupid man and will no longer discuss this with you.
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Why do they keep paper backups of electronic voting machines then?
If not to count them, especially in the face of power outages and polling oddities never seen in history.
Why even print the paper backups?
Yeah because they can't be fucked with/forged/edited/modified, etc. You think that people who fraud elections just started yesterday?? C'mon man!!
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horrible logic.
Proving the election results CORRECT would lead to MORE accusations of fraud?
That is completely false. If the paper ballots matched the electronic results, most of the people complaining would STFU immediately.
I am now realizing you're a stupid man and will no longer discuss this with you.
Don't be too hard on yourself for not seeing this one coming... no one's perfect.
MELTDOWN
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Yes, let's not derail this thread. You are free to continue your Sunday morning bong hit. I have nothing more to add.
you are free to continue being a clueless
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It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.
- Joseph Stalin
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It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.
- Joseph Stalin
Hey 240.. after reading that it should be a no brainer why dems keep insisting on recount after recount after recount after recount...
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It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.
- Joseph Stalin
there is the full quote, knew I forgot something
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Hey 240.. after reading that it should be a no brainer why dems keep insisting on recount after recount after recount after recount...
it means whoever controls the counting controls the vote
Who controlled the vote in Ohio in 2004?
Answer - Ken Blackwell - Secretary of the State and honorary co-chair of the Commitee to Re-Elect George Bush
Who controlled the vote in Florida in 2000?
Answer - Katherine Harris - Secretary of the State and former co-chair of Bush's campain in Florida
more from Wiki:
In addition, by Harris' decree, ChoicePoint — a private firm — was hired prior to the election to identify and remove thousands of names from the state voters list on the condition that these people were convicted felons. Many of these would-be voters were turned away at the polls or even prior to reaching the polling places. It would later be discovered that approximately 97% of the people removed from the list — and thus denied the right to vote in the election — were not felons at all. The majority of these voters were African-American, and as African-Americans predominantly vote Democratic, the situation suggested foul play
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it means whoever controls the counting controls the vote
Who controlled the vote in Ohio in 2004?
Answer - Ken Blackwell - Secretary of the State and honorary co-chair of the Commitee to Re-Elect George Bush
Who controlled the vote in Florida in 2000?
Answer - Katherine Harris - Secretary of the State and former co-chair of Bush's campain in Florida
more from Wiki:
In addition, by Harris' decree, ChoicePoint — a private firm — was hired prior to the election to identify and remove thousands of names from the state voters list on the condition that these people were convicted felons. Many of these would-be voters were turned away at the polls or even prior to reaching the polling places. It would later be discovered that approximately 97% of the people removed from the list — and thus denied the right to vote in the election — were not felons at all. The majority of these voters were African-American, and as African-Americans predominantly vote Democratic, the situation suggested foul play
If conservatives are in charge of the first vote and every recount thereafter then why would dems be so persistent about getting those recounts or "verifications" knowing they're efforts would go nowhere.
But that isn't the case.
Those supposedly and theoretically "in charge" of the recounts are NOT those counting the votes themselves. And in every recount votes for dems seem to mysteriously materialize out of thin air, especially after a lengthy effort by the loser (a democrat) to attain the verification... hmm, that's weird.
And this Choicepoint.. where are the convictions? Where are subpoenas? There's something missing and I'll try to find out what it is.
On top of all that, looking through wikis sources I'm not surprised I feel like somethings being left out. I see a lot of known slanted papers.
It is no wonder almost all exposed voter fraud has been attempted by leftists.
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Something over 90% of exposed voter fraud and other forms of "cheating" an election were done by groups supporting democrats. Look it up.
Bush won every recount, every time, despite every effort by loser ass dems to steal the election.
Get over it.
I can't watch the linked youtube movie. But Bush would have never had an opportunity to run in 2004 if the Florida statewide ballots of the 2000 election were counted. Gore won and Bush lost under all statewide recounts.
It is certainly understandable to doubt the veracity of electronic voting machine results when they are constantly at odds with exit polls which have an extremely high and accurate predictive value. It's funny how exit polls started being profoundly incorrect, favoring the GOP, in elections held after 1999 when electronic voting machines became common.
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Talk about a dead horse. Which Republicans filed lawsuits in Ohio? Wasn't it Democrats who filed lawsuits?
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voter fraud is a single individual committing the fraud, either intentionally (like Ann Coulter) or unintentionally.
The reason there are any voter fraud convictions is because the White House (most specifically Karl Rove) urged the justice department to pursue these cases in key battleground states and right before the election. They did this to confuse the public - most of whom don't know the difference between voter fraud and election fraud. BTW - there were only a handful of convictions and most were honest mistakes (working from memory).
on the other hand, ELECTION FRAUD is the wholesale stealing of votes and this needs a coordinated effort of the people running the election and the people counting the votes.
Why hasn't ELECTION FRAUD been investigated? Maybe because the White House controlled the Justice Department via Gonzo
http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/010605Y.shtml
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/reports/usattorneys/story/17061.html
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen
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Talk about a dead horse. Which Republicans filed lawsuits in Ohio? Wasn't it Democrats who filed lawsuits?
Why the fuck would the repuplicans file a lawsuit?
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voter fraud is a single individual committing the fraud, either intentionally (like Ann Coulter) or unintentionally.
The reason there are any voter fraud convictions is because the White House (most specifically Karl Rove) urged the justice department to pursue these cases in key battleground states and right before the election. They did this to confuse the public - most of whom don't know the difference between voter fraud and election fraud. BTW - there were only a handful of convictions and most were honest mistakes (working from memory).
on the other hand, ELECTION FRAUD is the wholesale stealing of votes and this needs a coordinated effort of the people running the election and the people counting the votes.
Why hasn't ELECTION FRAUD been investigated? Maybe because the White House controlled the Justice Department via Gonzo
http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/010605Y.shtml
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/reports/usattorneys/story/17061.html
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen
Wow.
1. Ann Coulter never committed voter fraud or anything close to it.
2. Your sources blow and the bias permeates through my computer screen.
3. Voter fraud, election fraud... you knew exactly what I meant.
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Wow.
1. Ann Coulter never committed voter fraud or anything close to it.
2. Your sources blow and the bias permeates through my computer screen.
3. Voter fraud, election fraud... you knew exactly what I meant.
1. yes she did but but it was never pursued - I wonder why??
2. The sources are fine
3. Voter fraud and election fraud are two completely different thing but you knew that already right?
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Wow.
1. Ann Coulter never committed voter fraud or anything close to it.
2. Your sources blow and the bias permeates through my computer screen.
3. Voter fraud, election fraud... you knew exactly what I meant.
you've been exposed as an ignorant man on this thread.
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Why the fuck would the repuplicans file a lawsuit?
Good question Einstein. ::) That's why I asked the question. Why don't you ask 240, who made the statement:
WHy have the repubs SUED to keep a perfectly legal and sensible count of paper backups from taking place?
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BB - my mistake - the voter fraud allegations were pursued but the conclusion was that it was not intentional - much like all of the cases in this country.
I'm still dubious but I'll assume it was unintentional on Coulters part
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Good question Einstein. ::) That's why I asked the question. Why don't you ask 240, who made the statement:
Fair enough - I didn't see that post
That's 1 out of 1000 for you
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1. yes she did but but it was never pursued - I wonder why??
Probly because it never happened but you libs hate her so much you won't figure that out.
2. The sources are fine
The sources are bent but they say what you want them to say.
3. Voter fraud and election fraud are two completely different thing but you knew that already right?
I did and I'm sure you figured that out.
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you've been exposed as an ignorant man on this thread.
I might be the only rational man on this thread.
And you've been exposed to have been following this thread with nothing intelligent to say even after you melted down earlier. Keep it up.. it's what you're good for.
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Fair enough - I didn't see that post
That's 1 out of 1000 for you
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Brixton I haven't seen much of your posts would you consider yourself a neocon?>
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Brixton I haven't seen much of your posts would you consider yourself a neocon?>
I'm a libertarian forced to vote for the lesser of two evils.
And I refuse to fall for the bullshit that RINOs like 240 and libs like Straw have to dish out. It's bullshit and it's nonsense and I feel sorry for all the people they mislead who don't know better.
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hey dipshit - have you ever noticed that I gladly concede when I make an error
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I'm a libertarian forced to vote for the lesser of two evils.
And I refuse to fall for the bullshit that RINOs like 240 and libs like Straw have to dish out. It's bullshit and it's nonsense and I feel sorry for all the people they mislead who don't know better.
I'm not a lib
Like you though I feel sorry for citizens who get duped into voting against their own best interests
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hey dipshit - have you ever noticed that I gladly concede when I make an error
Hey Forrest Gump, "That's 1 out of 1000 for you" isn't a concession. ::) Or were you trying to be funny? It's hard to tell because you are a humorless stick in the mud.
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Hey Forrest Gump, "That's 1 out of 1000 for you" isn't a concession. ::) Or were you trying to be funny? It's hard to tell because you are a humorless stick in the mud.
it was a guestimate on my part but probably close to accurate
still I did concede that I had made an error
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It's hard to tell because you are a humorless stick in the mud.
hahahaha... good one BB.
That had me laughing out loud "humorless stick in the mud" hahahahahah!!!
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hahahaha... good one BB.
That had me laughing out loud "humorless stick in the mud" hahahahahah!!!
:D
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Hey Bum - there's another 1 out of a 1000 for you.
I'm still waiting for you to write something that will make me laugh ....intentionally that is
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Something over 90% of exposed voter fraud and other forms of "cheating" an election were done by groups supporting democrats. Look it up.
Bush won every recount, every time, despite every effort by loser ass dems to steal the election.
Get over it.
You look it up ::) Some of it has been dems. If you're saying 90% of the election fraud in the last 7 years has been from dems, you're just flat out talking out your ass. You get over it, Bush stole the election bigtime bubba.
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leave it to the rightwing fuckheads of the board not to give a shit that votes are counted in a democracy ::) The fact remains, these problems exposed by these programers and HBO documentary have not been fixed. It's not about Bush so much, I'm not on some fucking crusade to have another recount ::) It's that these exposed problems have not been fixed and it doesn't look like there is a fix in sight... Oh so fucking sorry I give a shit about all of our votes counting ::)
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I can't find the info on any specific lawsuits by Republicans(though I haven't spent much time looking) but there are plenty of examples of Republicans (especially Blackwell) aggressively fighting any attempt at a re-count and the evidence of ELECTION FRAUD is overwhelming to say the least.
The neo-CON's and their boy king Bush will tell you to just forget about it.
Nothing to see here. Go about your business. Go Shopping. Wave your flags.