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Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« on: December 15, 2007, 11:39:23 PM »
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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2007, 09:50:09 AM »
Oh yea... They proved it was done 100% in the HBO documentary Hacking Democracy.  They obtained the machines, made exact counts and watched as the machine spit out a different count. rigged rigged rigged... Bush was NOT elected.


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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2007, 10:06:57 AM »
Oh yea... They proved it was done 100% in the HBO documentary Hacking Democracy.  They obtained the machines, made exact counts and watched as the machine spit out a different count. rigged rigged rigged... Bush was NOT elected.



Something over 90% of exposed voter fraud and other forms of "cheating" an election were done by groups supporting democrats.  Look it up.

Bush won every recount, every time, despite every effort by loser ass dems to steal the election.

Get over it.

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2007, 10:10:25 AM »

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2007, 10:16:26 AM »
not sure who said this

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It's Not the People Who Vote that Count; It's the People Who Count the Votes

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2007, 11:04:05 AM »
Bush won every recount, every time, despite every effort by loser ass dems to steal the election.

Get over it.

Why have the republicans sued for 3 years to prevent the 2004 Ohio ballots from being counted?

They would quickly verify who won Ohio - since the mysterious power-down and 1 in 50k chance polling oddities certainly cast doubt on who won.

Yet the repubs sued - and continue suing - to keep the simple counting of paper backups from being done.  All this would do is VERIFY the electronic results, unless of course, someone cheated.

WHy have the repubs SUED to keep a perfectly legal and sensible count of paper backups from taking place?

PS>.. you won't answer this ;)

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2007, 11:13:15 AM »
Tell me about it. 

funny - that's how I feel about Jesus. 

It was a long time ago - who cares - just forget about it

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2007, 11:14:28 AM »
funny - that's how I feel about Jesus. 

It was a long time ago - who cares - just forget about it

?  Are you smoking again?  What on earth does this mean? 

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2007, 11:18:40 AM »
?  Are you smoking again?  What on earth does this mean? 

it means why should we forget about the election fraud just because it happened in the past????

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2007, 11:29:16 AM »
it means why should we forget about the election fraud just because it happened in the past????

And what does Jesus have to do with this thread?

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2007, 11:34:34 AM »
And what does Jesus have to do with this thread?

it's mean to be ironic

Sorry I forgot you don't understand irony

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2007, 11:36:18 AM »
it's mean to be ironic

Sorry I forgot you don't understand irony

::)  Go take another hit.   

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2007, 11:38:25 AM »
::)  Go take another hit.   

Like I said, my apologies, I forget that you don't get irony

does the board really need another pissing contest?

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2007, 11:42:29 AM »
Like I said, my apologies, I forget that you don't get irony

does the board really need another pissing contest?

Yes, let's not derail this thread.  You are free to continue your Sunday morning bong hit.  I have nothing more to add. 

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2007, 11:49:38 AM »


PS>.. you won't answer this ;)

Normally, you'd be right since it's pretty obvious no thinking person should listen/respond to you..

..but what the hey, I'm a nice guy.

The GOP is right to oppose constant and unending attempts to steal they're win from the sore losing democrats and left wing yahoos hell bent on undermining conservatives.  These "verifications" are nothing more than that and should be defended against since they would undoubtedly open up the results to MORE fraud from the exact people who demand them so vehemently.

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2007, 11:51:01 AM »
I'm not surprised you don't understand this.

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2007, 11:59:23 AM »
These "verifications" are nothing more than that and should be defended against since they would undoubtedly open up the results to MORE fraud from the exact people who demand them so vehemently.

Why do they keep paper backups of electronic voting machines then?

If not to count them, especially in the face of power outages and polling oddities never seen in history.

Why even print the paper backups?

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2007, 12:03:49 PM »
These "verifications" are nothing more than that and should be defended against since they would undoubtedly open up the results to MORE fraud from the exact people who demand them so vehemently.

horrible logic.

Proving the election results CORRECT would lead to MORE accusations of fraud?

That is completely false.  If the paper ballots matched the electronic results, most of the people complaining would STFU immediately. 

I am now realizing you're a stupid man and will no longer discuss this with you.

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2007, 12:04:08 PM »
Why do they keep paper backups of electronic voting machines then?

If not to count them, especially in the face of power outages and polling oddities never seen in history.

Why even print the paper backups?


Yeah because they can't be fucked with/forged/edited/modified, etc.  You think that people who fraud elections just started yesterday?? C'mon man!!

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2007, 12:05:22 PM »
horrible logic.

Proving the election results CORRECT would lead to MORE accusations of fraud?

That is completely false.  If the paper ballots matched the electronic results, most of the people complaining would STFU immediately. 

I am now realizing you're a stupid man and will no longer discuss this with you.

Don't be too hard on yourself for not seeing this one coming... no one's perfect.


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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2007, 12:47:36 PM »
Yes, let's not derail this thread.  You are free to continue your Sunday morning bong hit. I have nothing more to add.  

you are free to continue being a clueless


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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2007, 12:59:20 PM »
It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.

- Joseph Stalin

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2007, 01:05:50 PM »
It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.

- Joseph Stalin

Hey 240.. after reading that it should be a no brainer why dems keep insisting on recount after recount after recount after recount...

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2007, 01:20:16 PM »
It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.

- Joseph Stalin

there is the full quote, knew I forgot something

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Re: Election fraud? Computer Programmer testifies
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2007, 01:28:35 PM »
Hey 240.. after reading that it should be a no brainer why dems keep insisting on recount after recount after recount after recount...

it means whoever controls the counting controls the vote

Who controlled the vote in Ohio in 2004?

Answer - Ken Blackwell - Secretary of the  State and honorary co-chair of the Commitee to Re-Elect George Bush

Who controlled the vote in Florida in 2000?

Answer - Katherine Harris - Secretary of the State and former co-chair of Bush's campain in Florida

more from Wiki:

In addition, by Harris' decree, ChoicePoint — a private firm — was hired prior to the election to identify and remove thousands of names from the state voters list on the condition that these people were convicted felons. Many of these would-be voters were turned away at the polls or even prior to reaching the polling places. It would later be discovered that approximately 97% of the people removed from the list — and thus denied the right to vote in the election — were not felons at all. The majority of these voters were African-American, and as African-Americans predominantly vote Democratic, the situation suggested foul play