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Title: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: Gym dude on January 13, 2008, 08:32:58 PM
The Chargers wont be able to handle to cold New England weather.Brady and co are going to walk all over the Chargers by 26.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: blinky on January 14, 2008, 03:34:00 AM





Go Chargers!!
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ATHEIST on January 14, 2008, 11:01:36 AM
The Chargers wont be able to handle to cold New England weather.Brady and co are going to walk all over the Chargers by 26.


 I'll take your points gladly. NE will win but not by 26. i say around 8.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: body88 on January 14, 2008, 11:04:57 AM
I'll take your points gladly. NE will win but not by 26. i say around 8.

Im gonna say 10. Game will be close until the half. I think the pats pull away inthe third and hold the chargers off to win the game. This will not be a blowout imo. Although I was wrong about the cowboys and colts this week so what the hell do I know?!


The chargers are going are going to come to play.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 14, 2008, 11:14:00 AM
Im gonna say 10.
I agree, the pats will lose by 10, good call.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ATHEIST on January 14, 2008, 11:53:33 AM
Im gonna say 10. Game will be close until the half. I think the pats pull away inthe third and hold the chargers off to win the game. This will not be a blowout imo. Although I was wrong about the cowboys and colts this week so what the hell do I know?!


The chargers are going are going to come to play.
.

yes, it wont be a blow out but NE will never be threatend to lose the game.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: body88 on January 14, 2008, 12:00:15 PM
I agree, the pats will lose by 10, good call.

Could happen. No team is unbeatable. I suggest you bet your life savings on it  ;)
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: MB_722 on January 14, 2008, 12:06:36 PM
Pats will win the SB. They are above everyone. Very professional.

I was never a fan of the Pats before. Now I can appreciate them and this moment in sports. I want to see them win it!
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: RUDE BUOY on January 14, 2008, 12:09:46 PM
cant wait for the little cvunt bag rivers to choke big time in this game
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ATHEIST on January 14, 2008, 01:29:54 PM
Hey i didnt get a chance to watch the game, would the Chargers have won if Rivers didnt get hurt? i think he is a very capable QB, just a little inconsistant kinda like Eli (except the current playoffs)
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: RUDE BUOY on January 14, 2008, 01:56:50 PM
Hey i didnt get a chance to watch the game, would the Chargers have won if Rivers didnt get hurt? i think he is a very capable QB, just a little inconsistant kinda like Eli (except the current playoffs)
its been said once and its been said again rivers is a mediocre qb in a great system with a icon rb
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ATHEIST on January 14, 2008, 02:48:09 PM
its been said once and its been said again rivers is a mediocre qb in a great system with a icon rb
could very well be true, however its still too early to tell. even a mediocre qb can win a SB with talent. however i dont think SD's system is great, they have great talent.

so would they have won if Rivers wasnt hurt? probability?
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: RUDE BUOY on January 14, 2008, 03:12:31 PM
could very well be true, however its still too early to tell. even a mediocre qb can win a SB with talent. however i dont think SD's system is great, they have great talent.

so would they have won if Rivers wasnt hurt? probability?
i think yes the game was thiers that day the football gods had spoken
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: tu_holmes on January 14, 2008, 03:14:34 PM




Go Chargers!!

I'm rooting for them too... I'd like LT to get a ring.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ATHEIST on January 14, 2008, 03:19:01 PM
i think yes the game was thiers that day the football gods had spoken
thanks, until he proves otherwise i still need to see him perform when it counts with all the talent he has.
what is with all the talk on espn radio about all the horrible calls against SD? was it really that bad? i always thought Volek was an underrated backup.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: headhuntersix on January 14, 2008, 07:17:23 PM
Volek sorta got screwed in Tenn so he's not so bad. If Rivers starts there is noway in hell that he will be able to avoid the rush.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: buffbodz on January 15, 2008, 01:02:20 PM
Volek will properly start because of Rivers Knee.  Plus a hurt all pro running back.  I smell blowout.  Too bad, it could of been a good one.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: jerseyhurricane on January 15, 2008, 07:29:53 PM
I hate the Pats but I hate the Chargers even more. Whats up with all the bitching the Chargers do about other teams rubbing it in their faces when they lose? What was up with Rivers clearly mocking the Colts fans after Manning failed on 4th down in the 4th quarter? Very unprofessional. The Patriots have been a class act all season. They are clearly the best team in NFL history.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: CalvinH on January 16, 2008, 05:28:46 AM
Hahaha.now some Chargers DL is running his mouth.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: body88 on January 16, 2008, 07:21:18 AM
Hahaha.now some Chargers DL is running his mouth.

Igor strikes again?  "Patriots? (rolls his eyes) We arent worried about the patriots , they are thinking more about us. Trust me on that , they know whats up! The patriots better watch out!!!"

Haha ok Igor , you guys just never learn!

Yes the chargers won the colts game , Manning also put up 400 yards on them. Dont get to cocky now Igor. You remember what happened the last two times right?
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ngm21084 on January 16, 2008, 09:51:40 AM
i say pats by at least 17...by the end of the first halfthe pats will be up by a field goal and for the game brady lights them up with 3 td passes in the second half and maroney goes for over 100 yards rushing for the game...
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ATHEIST on January 16, 2008, 11:24:41 AM
as banged up as the Chargers are they should just concentrate on the game. Pats will win easily by more than ten now. Norv needs to tell his players to tone it down.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ngm21084 on January 16, 2008, 11:42:12 AM
i do however give alot of props to san diego for pulling it together and getting as far as they have...but like i said
pats by at least 17...by the end of the first halfthe pats will be up by a field goal and for the game brady lights them up with 3 td passes in the second half and maroney goes for over 100 yards rushing for the game...
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: tu_holmes on January 16, 2008, 11:46:55 AM
as banged up as the Chargers are they should just concentrate on the game. Pats will win easily by more than ten now. Norv needs to tell his players to tone it down.

Hasn't that always been his issue? Losing control?

Really though... Is it that bad? I mean, when you play highschool football, you talk that trash... Personally, people say it's "classless" and they may be right, but if you think you're that good, go ahead... It will only hurt (and hurt badly) if they lose.... If they back it up and win... Well, let's just say that there will be a ton of "New England Who?"s running around after.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ngm21084 on January 16, 2008, 11:50:06 AM
Hasn't that always been his issue? Losing control?

Really though... Is it that bad? I mean, when you play highschool football, you talk that trash... Personally, people say it's "classless" and they may be right, but if you think you're that good, go ahead... It will only hurt (and hurt badly) if they lose.... If they back it up and win... Well, let's just say that there will be a ton of "New England Who?"s running around after.

yea but honestly that isnt going to happen...
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: tu_holmes on January 16, 2008, 11:56:04 AM
yea but honestly that isnt going to happen...

While the odds are against it, crazier things have happened in football. These are all professional teams, it's not like USC vs. Southern Wisconsin State Tech BFE University.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ngm21084 on January 16, 2008, 12:04:55 PM
good enough you never know whats goin to happen..unless your pats and you know and expect to win the Super Bowl...
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: tu_holmes on January 16, 2008, 12:06:26 PM
good enough you never know whats goin to happen..unless your pats and you know and expect to win the Super Bowl...

There have been more undefeated regular season teams to lose in the post season than to win... Just from a historical perspective.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ngm21084 on January 16, 2008, 12:14:44 PM
what are you talking about more undefeated teams in the regular season to lose in playoffs?  please discuss this..
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ngm21084 on January 16, 2008, 12:19:27 PM
the only teams i know of to go undefeated in the regular season was the dolphins who won the super bowl and the bears in like 34 and 42 but this was before the merger and i dont know what they finished like....thats it for perfect records...
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: mass 04 on January 16, 2008, 01:07:16 PM
hope this isn't a distraction.....

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Randy Moss said Wednesday that allegations he committed battery against a woman are false and that she made the claim to get money from him.



"I want to make something clear," the New England Patriots wide receiver said while surrounded by reporters and cameras at his locker. "In my whole entire life of living 30 years, I've never put my hand on one woman, physically or in an angry manner."



The woman, identified in court records as Rachelle Washington, 35, of Fort Lauderdale, filed for and was granted a protection order against Moss, alleging he committed battery against her. The temporary injunction, issued in Broward County (Fla.) court, bars Moss from coming within 500 feet of the woman and from using or possessing firearms.



No criminal charges have been filed in the matter. A hearing has been scheduled for Jan. 28, which is the Monday before the Super Bowl.



Moss gave no details of the alleged incident, saying he was restricted by the legal case.



He said the woman was a friend of 11 years and that she asked for "six figures" for what Moss said was an accident in which she was hurt. He did not provide details about the accident.


 
Moss

"They're false allegations, something I've been battling for like the last couple of days of threats going public if I didn't pay X amount of dollars," Moss said. "So before people rush quick to judgment I think you need to find out the facts about, really, what's going on.



"This young lady by no means is hurt. I didn't hurt her."



Melissa Miller, an assistant to David McGill, the Miami-based attorney representing Washington, told ESPN.com "At this time there is no comment on the situation.''



Asked if Washington was aware of comments from Moss alleging that she was seeking money to keep quiet, Miller said "We have no comment on anything.''



New England plays the San Diego Chargers in the AFC Championship Game in Foxborough on Sunday.



Moss, who set an NFL record with 23 touchdown catches this season, said he spoke with coach Bill Belichick about the matter. Moss spoke to about 30 reporters in the locker room after Belichick's regular news conference at which the coach wasn't asked about it.



Moss has avoided off-field problems this season and has been hailed by other Patriots players as an excellent teammate and leader. In his previous nine seasons -- seven with Minnesota and two with Oakland -- he was involved in several incidents.



With Minnesota, he was criticized by quarterback Daunte Culpepper and others for leaving the field with 2 seconds left in a regular-season loss to Washington. He bumped a traffic control officer with his car in 2002, verbally abused corporate sponsors on a team bus in 2001 and squirted an official with a water bottle in 1999.



He strongly denied the latest allegations, breaking his usual midweek silence.



"It's very unfair to athletes if a person makes a false claim. You know, there's nothing that we can do," Moss said. "The only thing that we can do is either pay up or sit back and listen to what's being said or what's being written.



"For someone to make a false claim about me, I'm kind of furious," he said. "It kind of hurts me deep inside for someone to do something like that because, you know, I've always said time and time again, I'm going to stand up for what's right. If I'm right, I'm right. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong."


ESPN.com investigative reporter Mike Fish and The Associated Press contributed to this story.



Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: tu_holmes on January 16, 2008, 01:34:28 PM
the only teams i know of to go undefeated in the regular season was the dolphins who won the super bowl and the bears in like 34 and 42 but this was before the merger and i dont know what they finished like....thats it for perfect records...

Those 2 last teams both lost in the post season... The reason why the 72 dolphins are so famous is because they actually won the whole thing.

So, currently, more teams who had undefeated regular seasons have not won the championship than those that have. NE can make it 50/50 if they win it all in a few weeks.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: Andy Griffin on January 16, 2008, 05:15:39 PM
the only teams i know of to go undefeated in the regular season was the dolphins who won the super bowl and the bears in like 34 and 42 but this was before the merger and i dont know what they finished like....thats it for perfect records...

There is one other interesting fact...the Cleveland Browns, in the old AAFC (where the Colts and 49ers were also born), finished 14-0 and won that league's title in 1948.  Granted, it wasn't the NFL, but two years later, the Browns won the NFL championship in their very first year in the league. 

To my knowledge, there has never been an undefeated champion in the CFL, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: body88 on January 16, 2008, 05:24:20 PM
Those 2 last teams both lost in the post season... The reason why the 72 dolphins are so famous is because they actually won the whole thing.

So, currently, more teams who had undefeated regular seasons have not won the championship than those that have. NE can make it 50/50 if they win it all in a few weeks.

Im not sure what you are talking about. The only NFL team that went undefeated in the regular season was the 72 phins and they won it all.

The bears went 15 -1 back in the 80's and won it all also.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: tu_holmes on January 16, 2008, 05:28:58 PM
Im not sure what you are talking about. The only NFL team that went undefeated in the regular season was the 72 phins and they won it all.

The bears went 15 -1 back in the 80's and won it all also.

Actually, you're wrong...

Look it up... Hell, I'll do it for you.

      
What NFL teams have had undefeated seasons?
   
   
      
Answer

The 1972 Miami Dolphins have had the only undefeated season in NFL history. They went 14-0 in the regular season and wound up winning Super Bowl VII to finish at 17-0.

Answer

The 1972 Dolphins are the only team to ever go undefeated.

Answer

The Chicago Bears had 2 undefeated regular seasons. In 1934 they were 13-0 and in 1942 they were 11-0. However, in both seasons they lost the NFL championship game. In 1934, they lost to the New York Giants and in 1942 they lost to the Washington Redskins.

Answer

And now, the 2007 New England Patriots have joined the ranks with an undefeated 16-0 regular season. Only time will tell if they can complete the sweep through the playoffs.


(For what it's worth, I didn't know this until ESPN did a clip on it about a week ago)
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: Andy Griffin on January 16, 2008, 05:32:39 PM
Im not sure what you are talking about. The only NFL team that went undefeated in the regular season was the 72 phins and they won it all.

The bears went 15 -1 back in the 80's and won it all also.



1934
Final standings
W = Wins, L = Losses, T = Ties, PCT= Winning Percentage, PF= Points For, PA = Points Against

Eastern Division
Team W L T PCT PF PA
New York Giants 8 5 0 .615 147 107
Boston Redskins 6 6 0 .500 107 94
Brooklyn Dodgers 4 7 0 .364 61 153
Philadelphia Eagles 4 7 0 .364 127 85
Pittsburgh Pirates 2 10 0 .167 51 206
Western Division
Team W L T PCT PF PA
Chicago Bears 13 0 0 1.000 286 86
Detroit Lions 10 3 0 .769 238 59
Green Bay Packers 7 6 0 .538 156 112
Chicago Cardinals 5 6 0 .455 80 84
St. Louis Gunners 1 2 0 .333 27 61
Cincinnati Reds 0 8 0 .000 10 243



[edit] NFL Championship Game
For more details on this topic, see NFL Championship Game, 1934.
N.Y. Giants 30, Chi. Bears 13 at Polo Grounds, New York City, December 9, 1934
 


1942
W = Wins, L = Losses, T = Ties, PCT= Winning Percentage, PF= Points For, PA = Points Against

Eastern Division
Team W L T PCT PF PA
Washington Redskins 10 1 0 .909 227 102
Pittsburgh Steelers 7 4 0 .636 167 119
New York Giants 5 5 1 .500 155 139
Brooklyn Dodgers 3 8 0 .273 100 168
Philadelphia Eagles 2 9 0 .182 134 239
Western Division
Team W L T PCT PF PA
Chicago Bears 11 0 0 1.000 376 84
Green Bay Packers 8 2 1 .800 300 215
Cleveland Rams 5 6 0 .455 150 207
Chicago Cardinals 3 8 0 .273 98 209
Detroit Lions 0 11 0 .000 38 263



[edit] NFL Championship Game
Washington 14, Chi. Bears 6, at Griffith Stadium, Washington, D.C., December 13, 1942



Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: body88 on January 18, 2008, 06:25:32 AM
The 30's. Haha how many teams where in the "NFL" in the 30's? How many games where in a season back then? The only "modern day" undefeated team is the 72 phins. The NFL was not the NFL back then.

I guess you can count those two teams , but I dont see much of anything that would apply to a modern day NFL team there.


Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: RUDE BUOY on January 18, 2008, 06:26:18 AM
The 30's. Haha how many teams where in the "NFL" in the 30's?
i think just the steelers and they still didnt win the supa bowl  ;D
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ngm21084 on January 18, 2008, 07:13:55 AM
The 30's. Haha how many teams where in the "NFL" in the 30's? How many games where in a season back then? The only "modern day" undefeated team is the 72 phins. The NFL was not the NFL back then.

I guess you can count those two teams , but I dont see much of anything that would apply to a modern day NFL team there.




yea im with you on them not mattering i mean that was even before there was an NFL...but like i keep on saying the PATRIOTS cant lose...im telling you..
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: tu_holmes on January 18, 2008, 12:04:13 PM
The 30's. Haha how many teams where in the "NFL" in the 30's? How many games where in a season back then? The only "modern day" undefeated team is the 72 phins. The NFL was not the NFL back then.

I guess you can count those two teams , but I dont see much of anything that would apply to a modern day NFL team there.




So what you're saying is, you're wrong... Glad we cleared that up.

You can talk about Modern day this or that, but those guys played Ironman ball then... both sides of the field, in leather helmets and shit for protection. They were warriors...

You could even touch the quarterback back then... Who'd have imagined.

Players today are pussies compared to those guys.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ngm21084 on January 18, 2008, 12:19:35 PM
So what you're saying is, you're wrong... Glad we cleared that up.

You can talk about Modern day this or that, but those guys played Ironman ball then... both sides of the field, in leather helmets and shit for protection. They were warriors...

You could even touch the quarterback back then... Who'd have imagined.

Players today are pussies compared to those guys.

i would agree to a point those players back then were warriors...playing both ends and shit...
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: body88 on January 18, 2008, 12:39:06 PM
So what you're saying is, you're wrong... Glad we cleared that up.

You can talk about Modern day this or that, but those guys played Ironman ball then... both sides of the field, in leather helmets and shit for protection. They were warriors...

You could even touch the quarterback back then... Who'd have imagined.

Players today are pussies compared to those guys.



What I am saying is the phins are the only team even remotely comparable to the 2007 / 2008 pats and they won it all.If you want I can drum up some undefeated college teams from the 30's and try to relate there success to the pats chances to win it all. I wont though because it would be a waste of time imo. The NFL is the thirties had pretty much nothing in common with NFL football in the modern day era.


But yea , there where 3 undefeated teams. One of those won the superbowl , the other two lost in the thirties when the leauge was totally different then it is today.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: tu_holmes on January 18, 2008, 03:10:48 PM


What I am saying is the phins are the only team even remotely comparable to the 2007 / 2008 and they won it all.If you want I can drum up some undefeated college teams from the 30's and try to relate there success to the pats chances to win it all. I wont though because it would be a waste of time imo. The NFL is the thirties had pretty much nothing in common with NFL football in the modern day era.




It was either the NFL or it wasn't.

Like comparing Moss's record year versus Rice's year.

Rice did it in 12 games, during a strike year, had he had 16, Moss wouldn't have even had a chance to break it... but that's not what matters, what matters is that Moss has the record right?

Exactly... So, my factual statement stands. You don't have to like it, but until the Pats do indeed "win it all", they're still a hopeful, nothing more.

I don't hate it, and if they win, great, I'll have seen history in my lifetime...

However, until they do, they are not special... Other teams have had undefeated regular seasons and still not won the championship game.

I have made ZERO errors in any of my statements... like them or not, they are fact.

Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: MB_722 on January 18, 2008, 03:13:59 PM
my pick is the Pats by 9 or better
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: gtbro1 on January 19, 2008, 08:23:16 AM
I hope someone plants Rivers so far into the ground his farts are mistaken for a hot spring. >:(

   
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: Beefjake on January 19, 2008, 10:12:29 AM
Pats will win over Bolts.

Super Bowl will be like Rocky IV

-The Man vs the Machine-
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: RUDE BUOY on January 19, 2008, 03:24:29 PM
it will be brett and and tom fighting it out for the supa bowl dosnt get much more american than that
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: gtbro1 on January 19, 2008, 08:57:44 PM
it will be brett and and tom fighting it out for the supa bowl dosnt get much more american than that

   yup
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: Gym dude on January 19, 2008, 09:06:38 PM
That would also be my pick for the Super Bowl Tom Vs Brett which would be a classic Super Bowl.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: body88 on January 20, 2008, 08:19:03 AM
It was either the NFL or it wasn't.

Like comparing Moss's record year versus Rice's year.

Rice did it in 12 games, during a strike year, had he had 16, Moss wouldn't have even had a chance to break it... but that's not what matters, what matters is that Moss has the record right?

Exactly... So, my factual statement stands. You don't have to like it, but until the Pats do indeed "win it all", they're still a hopeful, nothing more.

I don't hate it, and if they win, great, I'll have seen history in my lifetime...

However, until they do, they are not special... Other teams have had undefeated regular seasons and still not won the championship game.

I have made ZERO errors in any of my statements... like them or not, they are fact.



My point was there have been three regular season team that went undefeated in NFL history. Two of those team during a period where the NFL was totally different then it is today. Those season where also not 16 games. Your right what the pats have done this year is nothing special at all.As it stands the pats are the only undefeated 16 game winner in NFL history. when the dolphins did it over 14 games they played one team with a winning record I believe.

If the pats win today they will be the only team in NFL history to win 18 straight games in a season. They are the greatest offensive team in NFL history which imo is a great achievment.

If the pats dont win the superbowl it will be a huge letdown , but they will be far from nothing special because of that.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ngm21084 on January 20, 2008, 09:02:40 AM
i thought the win record was like 20 games or 21 games already held by the pats...?
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: gtbro1 on January 20, 2008, 10:45:57 AM
i thought the win record was like 20 games or 21 games already held by the pats...?

  That's not possible.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ngm21084 on January 20, 2008, 10:54:16 AM
not in a single season...just most consecutive wins in a row...
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: danielson on January 20, 2008, 10:58:09 AM
not in a single season...just most consecutive wins in a row...

From:      http://www.profootballhof.com/history/release.jsp?release_id=1306


21 Games
New England
Patriots
2003-2004
Win    Date    Opponent, Score
1    Oct. 5    Tennessee Titans, 38-30
2    Oct. 12    New York Giants, 17-6
3    Oct. 19    at Miami Dolphins, 19-13 (OT)
4    Oct. 26    Cleveland Browns, 9-3
5    Nov. 3    at Denver Broncos, 30-26
6    Nov. 16    Dallas Cowboys, 12-0
7    Nov. 23    at Houston Texans, 23-20 (OT)
8    Nov. 30    at Indianapolis Colts, 38-34
9    Dec. 7    Miami Dolphins, 12-0
10    Dec. 14    Jacksonville Jaguars, 27-13
11    Dec. 20    at New York Jets, 21-16
12    Dec. 27    Buffalo Bills, 31-0
13    Jan. 10 *    Tennessee Titans, 17-14
14    Jan. 18 *    Indianapolis Colts, 24-14
15    Feb. 1 **    Carolina Panthers, 32-29
16    Sept. 9    Indianapolis Colts, 27-24
17    Sept. 19    at Arizona Cardinals, 23-12
18    Oct. 3    at Buffalo, 31-17
19    Oct. 10    Miami Dolphins, 24-10
20    Oct. 17    Seattle Seahawks, 30-20
21    Oct. 24    New York Jets, 13-7
Streak Ended    Oct. 31    at Pittsburgh Steelers, 20-34
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ngm21084 on January 20, 2008, 10:59:16 AM
yea thats what i was talking about again danielson with the undoubtable stats thanks bro
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: MB_722 on January 20, 2008, 11:56:25 AM
it's good both games are outdoors

Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: tu_holmes on January 20, 2008, 06:38:03 PM
My point was there have been three regular season team that went undefeated in NFL history. Two of those team during a period where the NFL was totally different then it is today. Those season where also not 16 games. Your right what the pats have done this year is nothing special at all.As it stands the pats are the only undefeated 16 game winner in NFL history. when the dolphins did it over 14 games they played one team with a winning record I believe.

If the pats win today they will be the only team in NFL history to win 18 straight games in a season. They are the greatest offensive team in NFL history which imo is a great achievment.

If the pats dont win the superbowl it will be a huge letdown , but they will be far from nothing special because of that.

I'm not disagreeing with your points...

Except, if they do not win the superbowl... They will go down in the record books just like the Bears did... In 20 years, no one will care.

If they win the superbowl, then they will be ELITE and without a doubt the greatest single season team in the history of football.

I don't want to hear about the "modern" era of football blah blah... The modern era technically makes it easier... More penalties... No hitting the QB... You can't do things that you could do in the league even 10 years ago.

The modern era makes it EASIER as far as play style is concerned... Where it makes it harder is salary caps and free agency... It's much harder to "stack the deck" so to speak, even though I will admit, Bill  B, did a great job of doing that this year.

Congratulations to the Pats for the AFC championship... Good luck in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ngm21084 on January 21, 2008, 03:26:22 AM
i was off about the score but was on for the 100+ yards for maroney....
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: pumpster on January 21, 2008, 07:49:12 AM
The Chargers wont be able to handle to cold New England weather.Brady and co are going to walk all over the Chargers by 26.


NE was lucky that the Chargers didn't change QBs. If they had and had been able to score any TDs they could have won.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: OzmO on January 21, 2008, 09:42:36 AM
NE was lucky that the Chargers didn't change QBs. If they had and had been able to score any TDs they could have won.

That's a stretch and a major assumption all becuase the back up had a good drive versus the colts.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ngm21084 on January 21, 2008, 09:50:53 AM
the chargers are lucky they scored anything at all....and the defense is going to stop the giants and the offense is going to nickel dime across the middle because the giants secondary suck and they will be playing a cover 3 trying to prevent the long ball from happening..also remember that the weather in arizona is going to be perfect passing weather  ;D
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: body88 on January 21, 2008, 10:08:20 AM
NE was lucky that the Chargers didn't change QBs. If they had and had been able to score any TDs they could have won.

Volek is a carrer backup who has played 4 games over his career. The chargers could not score in the red zone because the pats d would not let them. Rivers is far better then Volek , and thats why rivers starts and Volek sits. Just because Volek had one good series vs the colts you think he is a good pro? The guy has played four games in 12 years.

The chargers are lucky brady had a bad game. If Stallworth had not tipped a ball into a chargers db's hands the pats would have scored. If it was not 10 degrees out the score would have been higher. If Many pats recievers did not drop balls thing's would be different. If Maroney was not tripped up several times when he broke into the secondary the pats would have scores more. If, if , if............

None of that happened so none of it matters. You can apply the if card to every game in history. Most fan with sour grapes do that.

Not saying you have sour grapes, I know you dont care either way , just saying. Give the pats defense the credit they deserve. The chargers could not score because the pats d would not allow them to.





Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: pumpster on January 21, 2008, 10:14:17 PM
That's a stretch and a major assumption all becuase the back up had a good drive versus the colts.

Not a stretch at all based on evidence of only a week ago, actually. Most of the half time guys including Cower agree with me.

The only sure thing, which you've overlooked is that keeping an injured QB in there resulted in zero TDs. A backup couldn't have done much worse.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: pumpster on January 21, 2008, 10:15:32 PM
Volek is a carrer backup who has played 4 games over his career. The chargers could not score in the red zone because the pats d would not let them. Rivers is far better then Volek , and thats why rivers starts and Volek sits. Just because Volek had one good series vs the colts you think he is a good pro? The guy has played four games in 12 years.

The chargers are lucky brady had a bad game. If Stallworth had not tipped a ball into a chargers db's hands the pats would have scored. If it was not 10 degrees out the score would have been higher. If Many pats recievers did not drop balls thing's would be different. If Maroney was not tripped up several times when he broke into the secondary the pats would have scores more. If, if , if............

None of that happened so none of it matters. You can apply the if card to every game in history. Most fan with sour grapes do that.

Not saying you have sour grapes, I know you dont care either way , just saying. Give the pats defense the credit they deserve. The chargers could not score because the pats d would not allow them to.



You have absolutely no objectivity, and continue to do nothing but pander to NE. Extremely boring and predictable, made worse by your propensity for the equivalent of internet diahhrea in your posts-no one's reading after the first coupla paragraphs.

In addition, because you think within the box at all times, you make silly assumptions such as the one about Volek. After your very mistaken assumptions last year about Moss' inability to fit in to NE's team, one would think that you would learn from this debacle instead you keep repeating the same mindset.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: Geo on January 21, 2008, 10:21:14 PM
If I was Turner I would have put Volek in just to change a chemistry that was'nt working in the first half.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: pumpster on January 21, 2008, 10:22:23 PM
If I was Turner I would have put Volek in just to change a chemistry that was'nt working in the first half.

Absolutely. Common sense that there wasn't much downside and potentially strong upside given that the starter wasn't doing much.

Common sense is in short supply here, the NE maniacs think they know football and don't grasp what you just said. ::)
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: pumpster on January 21, 2008, 10:25:39 PM
Brady limping..

NEW YORK (AP) -- Patriots quarterback Tom Brady was photographed Monday with what appears to be walking cast on his right foot.

Video
http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1386375873
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: Spoony Luv on January 21, 2008, 11:45:31 PM
Brady limping..

NEW YORK (AP) -- Patriots quarterback Tom Brady was photographed Monday with what appears to be walking cast on his right foot.

Video
http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1386375873

Just a ploy by the NFL and odds makers to bring down the line...
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: body88 on January 22, 2008, 06:11:05 AM

You have absolutely no objectivity, and continue to do nothing but pander to NE. Extremely boring and predictable, made worse by your propensity for the equivalent of internet diahhrea in your posts-no one's reading after the first coupla paragraphs.

In addition, because you think within the box at all times, you make silly assumptions such as the one about Volek. After your very mistaken assumptions last year about Moss' inability to fit in to NE's team, one would think that you would learn from this debacle instead you keep repeating the same mindset.

Pumpster Volek sucks. He has started 4 games in 12 years. The chargers had a far better chance to win with Rivers playing. Rivers was not more effective because the pats d shut him down. I mean you are the guy who claimed woods was erratic and unpredictable. So I mean Im not shocked here.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: OzmO on January 22, 2008, 08:27:57 AM
Not a stretch at all based on evidence of only a week ago, actually. Most of the half time guys including Cower agree with me.

The only sure thing, which you've overlooked is that keeping an injured QB in there resulted in zero TDs. A backup couldn't have done much worse.

That i don't disagree with in that keeping Rivers in was a mistake, But Cower wasn't firm about his view on it and left the issue open, and even then, we are assuming Voltek could have driven them down the field with passes and scored which i don;t think would have happened.  In this case you really have to give it up for the Pats D.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: RUDE BUOY on January 22, 2008, 08:31:07 AM
gentlemen, gentlemen, the better team won. the team who was better prepared, better practiced, and had more class thats who won. and if feels so good that they beat rivers  and the bad boys  ::) the charges were not running a fucken thing but their mouths
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: Beefjake on January 22, 2008, 12:00:56 PM
Sprained MCL on LT - doesn't require surgery.

Sprained... Didn't know that was even a injury in the NFL ?

Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: tu_holmes on January 22, 2008, 12:17:37 PM
Sprained MCL on LT - doesn't require surgery.

Sprained... Didn't know that was even a injury in the NFL ?



I wonder if the fix was in... He looked like he wanted to play and they wouldn't let him.

How odd is that.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: Earl1972 on January 22, 2008, 12:24:59 PM
Not a stretch at all based on evidence of only a week ago, actually. Most of the half time guys including Cower agree with me.

The only sure thing, which you've overlooked is that keeping an injured QB in there resulted in zero TDs. A backup couldn't have done much worse.

i watched cowher for 15 years, he never would've changed qb's

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Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: Gym dude on January 22, 2008, 12:27:55 PM
I  saw and read that article about Brady limping on the The Sports network web site. When I saw the photo of Brady in cast. I was thinking shit. I hope it isn't anying thing major.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: OzmO on January 22, 2008, 12:42:03 PM
I  saw and read that article about Brady limping on the The Sports network web site. When I saw the photo of Brady in cast. I was thinking shit. I hope it isn't anying thing major.

According to Brady when asked, he says it's not.
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: Beefjake on January 22, 2008, 12:48:51 PM
I wonder if the fix was in... He looked like he wanted to play and they wouldn't let him.

How odd is that.

Hell, all I know is that, there are amateur football players playing with torn MCL wearing knee supports. In regular season, let alone playoffs.
 ???

( Don't mean neoprene ones but ones made just for it, didn't remember the word )
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: ngm21084 on January 22, 2008, 12:55:48 PM
its not and even if it is maroney can still run all over the giants d...the difference between maroney and the other rb is that he is very patient in the pocket and makes the d committ to where they are covering before he makes them all miss...
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: Spoony Luv on January 22, 2008, 09:22:42 PM
And this just in


Tiki Barber is a douch bag of Alex23/Tom Tognelli proportions
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: Geo on January 23, 2008, 02:53:36 PM
rivers just had surgery today and will rehab for the next 4-6 months
Title: Re: AFC championship game Chargers VS Pats
Post by: mass 04 on January 23, 2008, 03:47:33 PM
rivers just had surgery today and will rehab for the next 4-6 months
as much as I don't like the guy, i respect the fact that he played on Sunday.