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Title: Philosophical question...
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 02, 2008, 03:06:49 AM
... Why do we feel the need to TRAUMATIZE our muscles to make them BIGGER, in order to gain ADMIRATION from males and females to gratify our own EGO ?
.......WHY keeping our bodies filled with exogenous substances in order to force the human body to achieve something he was not designed for ?
.....WHY FUCK SO MUCH AND HARD with our body's natural ballance and natural forces within and masquerading it as a health quest ??




This is a serious question that needs some introspection as well as some knowledge of the soul/ego part of it , as well as bodybuilding knowledge ? 
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on March 02, 2008, 03:14:58 AM
easy, why does man want to find out what is on the other side of the hill, of the valley, of the mountain, across the sea, on another world?  It's human nature.  The other part is just the primative/natural male.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: JasonH on March 02, 2008, 03:51:26 AM
... Why do we feel the need to TRAUMATIZE our muscles to make them BIGGER, in order to gain ADMIRATION from males and females to gratify our own EGO ?
.......WHY keeping our bodies filled with exogenous substances in order to force the human body to achieve something he was not designed for ?
.....WHY FUCK SO MUCH AND HARD with our body's natural ballance and natural forces within and masquerading it as a health quest ??




This is a serious question that needs some introspection as well as some knowledge of the soul/ego part of it , as well as bodybuilding knowledge ? 

Good question.

I think it might be because we are striving for an unattainable masculine ideal which we perceive as being missing from our lives. On a behavioural level it could be a lack of love and affection received in childhood - especially from our fathers. On a scientific/biological level, it may be because we all have a natural testosterone imbalance which makes us want to be superhuman.

Who knows?
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: muscularny on March 02, 2008, 04:01:56 AM
I think most guys when they start out say they are at 5'10 150 they say all I want is to get to 175lbs and ill be happy most say start out with 13 inch arms and say if I get to 16 ill be happy then once at 16 you want 18 etc etc then its a never ending chase.

I think everyone who is into bodybuilding needs to really remember, there will always be someone bigger then you so just sit down and think on exactly what size will be good for you and what size you will be able to maintain and get to without risking your health and sanity and screwing up everyone around you.

There is no dount when it comes to women muscle is better than no muscle but seriously did you ever stop and listen to women when they talk about a guy they dated or a coworker and how hes muscular then she shows you his photo and hes maybe 170lbs with cuts, well guess what if you are 5'10 and 185lbs with nice decent definition you might not be considered big if some dude sees you but for most women they will find your body at least very fit and healthy looking.

I think we get cought up in this chase that land many people in the hospital and screw up many peoples relationships, nothing is better then being at a size and condition that you can maintain and look good at instead of the i need to be bigger and bigger mindset.

There is no doubt that bigorexia is a real mental condition, some guys with 20inch arms 250lbs really are convinced they are tiny
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: FrenchFrie on March 02, 2008, 04:02:11 AM
Good question.

I think it might be because we are striving for an unattainable masculine ideal which we perceive as being missing from our lives. On a behavioural level it could be a lack of love and affection received in childhood - especially from our fathers. On a scientific/biological level, it may be because we all have a natural testosterone imbalance which makes us want to be superhuman.

Who knows?
yeah u pretty summed it all here.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: wavelength on March 02, 2008, 04:43:08 AM
... Why do we feel the need to TRAUMATIZE our muscles to make them BIGGER, in order to gain ADMIRATION from males and females to gratify our own EGO ?

You answered your own question. It's the ego, that's all.
Underlying is of course the only motive that really drives us: we want to be happy and loved.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: KillerMonk on March 02, 2008, 04:51:07 AM
A large part being desirable of the opposite sex or in some cases the same sex.The only problem is becoming narsccistic.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Deicide on March 02, 2008, 04:52:44 AM
You answered your own question. It's the ego, that's all.
Underlying is of course the only motive that really drives us: we want to be happy and loved.

Propagation of DNA. That's all. 'Happiness' and being 'loved' are merely means to that end.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: FullROM on March 02, 2008, 04:55:44 AM
... Why do we feel the need to TRAUMATIZE our muscles to make them BIGGER, in order to gain ADMIRATION from males and females to gratify our own EGO ?
.......WHY keeping our bodies filled with exogenous substances in order to force the human body to achieve something he was not designed for ?
.....WHY FUCK SO MUCH AND HARD with our body's natural ballance and natural forces within and masquerading it as a health quest ??




This is a serious question that needs some introspection as well as some knowledge of the soul/ego part of it , as well as bodybuilding knowledge ? 

haha meltdown

Translation: My muscles will not grow..
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: wavelength on March 02, 2008, 05:11:10 AM
Propagation of DNA. That's all. 'Happiness' and being 'loved' are merely means to that end.

Reductionist.

 ;D
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Deicide on March 02, 2008, 05:12:52 AM
Reductionist.

 ;D

When have I denied that I am a reductionist? I have not; I am a reductionist.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: wavelength on March 02, 2008, 05:15:30 AM
When have I denied that I am a reductionist? I have not; I am a reductionist.

I know, I know, I was just messing with ya.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Deadpool on March 02, 2008, 05:19:12 AM
bodybuilding is the illusion of the alpha male (and alpha bitch), a throwback to the beginnings of civilization when the physical was of primary importance, and a narcissistic quest to become cartoonlike, ever striving for perfection in a culture that glorifies youth...sexual desirablity is a measure of worth and a commercial marketing tool that becomes a means to an end, and the end justifies the means.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Deicide on March 02, 2008, 05:19:12 AM
I know, I know, I was just messing with ya.

Deicide speilt den zornigen Tuerken: Hey, Alta, willst Du Dich mit mir anlegen? Isch mache Disch fertisch!  >:(
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Deadpool on March 02, 2008, 05:21:37 AM
Deicide speilt den zornigen Tuerken: Hey, Alta, willst Du Dich mit mir anlegen? Isch mache Disch fertisch!  >:(
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: wavelength on March 02, 2008, 05:23:02 AM
Deicide speilt den zornigen Tuerken: Hey, Alta, willst Du Dich mit mir anlegen? Isch mache Disch fertisch!  >:(

Was willst du Alde', isch mach disch Kickbox!
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Monster81 on March 02, 2008, 05:23:09 AM
... Why do we feel the need to TRAUMATIZE our muscles to make them BIGGER, in order to gain ADMIRATION from males and females to gratify our own EGO ?
.......WHY keeping our bodies filled with exogenous substances in order to force the human body to achieve something he was not designed for ?
.....WHY FUCK SO MUCH AND HARD with our body's natural ballance and natural forces within and masquerading it as a health quest ??




This is a serious question that needs some introspection as well as some knowledge of the soul/ego part of it , as well as bodybuilding knowledge ? 

an ugly bald puppetsock queer tryin' to be philosophical  ???
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: dr.chimps on March 02, 2008, 05:23:17 AM
Reductionist.

 ;D
Perhaps, but the older I get, the more I realize that everything(!) we do is driven by biology.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Deadpool on March 02, 2008, 05:24:44 AM
Perhaps, but the older I get, the more I realize that everything(!) we do is driven by biology.
bodybuilding is the illusion of the alpha male (and alpha bitch), a throwback to the beginnings of civilization when the physical was of primary importance, and a narcissistic quest to become cartoonlike, ever striving for perfection in a culture that glorifies youth...sexual desirablity is a measure of worth and a commercial marketing tool that becomes a means to an end, and the end justifies the means.

kinda what I said, but mine used more flowery language
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: dr.chimps on March 02, 2008, 05:26:32 AM
kinda what I said, but mine used more flowery language
And better said.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: wavelength on March 02, 2008, 05:29:21 AM
Perhaps, but the older I get, the more I realize that everything(!) we do is driven by biology.

And what exactly would make you come to that conclusion?
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: dr.chimps on March 02, 2008, 05:34:46 AM
And what exactly would make you come to that conclusion?
Hmm. Probably becasue whatever we say or do is irrelevant; the species must propagate and continue...and it does. It's nice to think we are at the top of the food chain and all intellectual and stuff, but we are just another animal on this planet driven by the same propelling need to reproduce as the next.   
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: wavelength on March 02, 2008, 05:40:45 AM
Hmm. Probably becasue whatever we say or do is irrelevant; the species must propagate and continue...and it does. It's nice to think we are at the top of the food chain and all intellectual and stuff, but we are just another animal on this planet driven by the same propelling need to reproduce as the next.

If procreation is what is necessary for our species to continue, wouldn't it be more appropriate then to say that procreation is the means and we are the end, not the other way round? Yes we are animals but quite obviously by recognizing that we are (something an animal is not capable of), we are also more than that.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: dr.chimps on March 02, 2008, 06:57:52 AM
If procreation is what is necessary for our species to continue, wouldn't it be more appropriate then to say that procreation is the means and we are the end, not the other way round? Yes we are animals but quite obviously by recognizing that we are (something an animal is not capable of), we are also more than that.
No. I see what you're saying (and I'm really not getting into metaphysicality this early) but that's just vanity.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Deicide on March 02, 2008, 07:08:41 AM
No. I see what you're saying (and I'm really not getting into metaphysicality this early) but that's just vanity.

Word doctor...agree with you... ;D
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: ironneck on March 02, 2008, 07:18:19 AM
it's all about freud
you did not suck enough on your mama's tits..that's all
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: wavelength on March 02, 2008, 09:11:20 AM
No. I see what you're saying (and I'm really not getting into metaphysicality this early) but that's just vanity.

Has nothing to do with vanity. I don't consider myself better or worth more than any animal. But nobody (except for a reductionist) can deny the profound difference between humans and animals.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: ironneck on March 02, 2008, 09:17:12 AM
Has nothing to do with vanity. I don't consider myself better or worth more than any animal. But nobody (except for a reductionist) can deny the profound difference between humans and animals.


of course humans are more worth than dirty dumb animals
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: alejandro_torres on March 02, 2008, 09:19:43 AM
no vanity no admiration from others.... just plain simple pussyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyy  ;D
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: ironneck on March 02, 2008, 09:21:32 AM
no vanity no admiration from others.... just plain simple pussyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyy  ;D


yes i think that's it
main  reason is pussy...second reason is a better feeling,it just doesn't feel right sitting with a chubby belly
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: alejandro_torres on March 02, 2008, 09:24:48 AM

yes i think that's it
main is reason is pussy...second reason is a better feeling,it just doen'st feel right sitting with a chubby belly

1. pussy
2. pussy
3. maybe bragging right with your friends... but pussy is really close too..
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Camel Jockey on March 02, 2008, 09:26:23 AM
For a promt apperance.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: alejandro_torres on March 02, 2008, 09:27:14 AM
For a promt apperance.

translation.. pussy
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: dr.chimps on March 02, 2008, 10:24:36 AM
Has nothing to do with vanity. I don't consider myself better or worth more than any animal. But nobody (except for a reductionist) can deny the profound difference between humans and animals.
Take away from humans a constant water supply, or some such other variable/necessity, and you won't see any difference. Look, we're just animals with more higher thought processes than most. That's it. You want to put yourself on a pedestal above all else and throw around words like reductionist - that's fine. Me? I'll be worm food soon enough like the rest of that which went before. Matter to matter. 
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: figgs on March 02, 2008, 10:39:15 AM
I think everyone has their own motivations. It seems like 90% of all the people in my gym are motivated by vanity. Like those people who will all of a sudden get a membership, gain 15 pounds of muscle in two weeks, and scream for the whole gym to hear him during his sets. All so he could wear a sleeveless shirt at the club and look good in the thumbs up pose.

It does psychologically comfort me to look good and all. For that aspect of it, it's about customization. I like to be able to customize my meat mobile. Sculpt it to look a certain way. And feel a certain way, too, and that's another thing. For me, it's more about feeling good. I like to be able to feel healthy, lively, energetic, and of course strong. It gives one the incentive to live a healthy lifestyle.

Other reasons I'd say is for it's discipline and meditative benefits. Working out is also great because you can have a shitty day but go to the gym and take it out on a back workout and feel like all the day's shittiness was insignificant.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: MAXX on March 02, 2008, 10:51:03 AM
... Why do we feel the need to TRAUMATIZE our muscles to make them BIGGER, in order to gain ADMIRATION from males and females to gratify our own EGO ?
.......WHY keeping our bodies filled with exogenous substances in order to force the human body to achieve something he was not designed for ?
.....WHY FUCK SO MUCH AND HARD with our body's natural ballance and natural forces within and masquerading it as a health quest ??




This is a serious question that needs some introspection as well as some knowledge of the soul/ego part of it , as well as bodybuilding knowledge ? 
having a low?

going of cycle makes people depressed ive heard  :'(
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: wavelength on March 02, 2008, 03:39:56 PM
Take away from humans a constant water supply, or some such other variable/necessity, and you won't see any difference. Look, we're just animals with more higher thought processes than most. That's it. You want to put yourself on a pedestal above all else and throw around words like reductionist - that's fine. Me? I'll be worm food soon enough like the rest of that which went before. Matter to matter.

As I said, it has nothing to do with putting myself above anything.
Reductionism basically means that you can (scientifically) take apart everything and by reassembling it again, explain the world.
I think that this is not possible. Just a difference in opinions.
But we're off-topic anyway, so we should probably leave it at that.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: HTexan on March 02, 2008, 03:46:43 PM
its called the " the unattainable goal" mags and companies use it so that you don't stop buying.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 02, 2008, 11:10:10 PM
Some interesting aproaches, some very closeto the essence, I'dlike to hear more.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: AllDrugs on March 02, 2008, 11:18:35 PM
... Why do we feel the need to TRAUMATIZE our muscles to make them BIGGER, in order to gain ADMIRATION from males and females to gratify our own EGO ?
.......WHY keeping our bodies filled with exogenous substances in order to force the human body to achieve something he was not designed for ?
.....WHY FUCK SO MUCH AND HARD with our body's natural ballance and natural forces within and masquerading it as a health quest ??




This is a serious question that needs some introspection as well as some knowledge of the soul/ego part of it , as well as bodybuilding knowledge ? 

In short, bodybuilding is ALL about EGO, Seve.  Always has been, always will be.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Spoony Luv on March 03, 2008, 01:41:57 AM
I was 20 years old at the time...Had 3 cycles under my belt and in this last one, i was using min/amounts of test but what is now seen as alot of anadrol(4 a day)..I was completely passed out drinking close to a 5th of jack...I remember being on there ship and all the female ET's(if you will) were grabbing my arms and running there weird look hands over my cock...I wasn't massively huge in a sense of muscularity but was around 6'2 250...Probably around the size of Mike A but also just a kid...

When i came to at the party, i didn't really know what the fuck just happend...Only later on in life did i realise that i may have just been aducted...Still to this day, not sure but i do know that the female "greys" or cyborgs couldn't get enough of a guy with muscle...

From there on out, lifting weights brought on a whole new meaning...

But on a sinister side, i will never forget the male "ET's " if you will making fun of the size of my unit...I guess thats why i saved up for a hummer later on in life and started putting other s down for what they drive and do for work(aka like Alex24)
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: kreator on March 03, 2008, 01:50:14 AM
what would you do if you knew that you'd never see one single woman again in your gym?i think we all know the answer to this one......
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 03, 2008, 01:50:59 AM
I was 20 years old at the time...Had 3 cycles under my belt and in this last one, i was using min/amounts of test but what is now seen as alot of anadrol(4 a day)..I was completely passed out drinking close to a 5th of jack...I remember being on there ship and all the female ET's(if you will) were grabbing my arms and running there weird look hands over my cock...I wasn't massively huge in a sense of muscularity but was around 6'2 250...Probably around the size of Mike A but also just a kid...

When i came to at the party, i didn't really know what the fuck just happend...Only later on in life did i realise that i may have just been aducted...Still to this day, not sure but i do know that the female "greys" or cyborgs couldn't get enough of a guy with muscle...

From there on out, lifting weights brought on a whole new meaning...

But on a sinister side, i will never forget the male "ET's " if you will making fun of the size of my unit...I guess thats why i saved up for a hummer later on in life and started putting other s down for what they drive and do for work(aka like Alex24)
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_andromedacom.htm
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: davidpaul on March 03, 2008, 01:59:18 AM
chicks dig muscles.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: DK II on March 03, 2008, 02:04:46 AM
haha meltdown

Translation: My muscles will not grow..

sevastase has some serious insecurity issues...

Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: kreator on March 03, 2008, 02:06:31 AM
chicks dig muscles.

you bet, one minute they're telling you you're too big (at least for today's standards), seconds later they're all over you
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Deicide on March 03, 2008, 04:14:21 AM
Has nothing to do with vanity. I don't consider myself better or worth more than any animal. But nobody (except for a reductionist) can deny the profound difference between humans and animals.

I work with children every day; I watch their behaviour, as they play in their own filth and with their own snot and excretion, how they hit each other, the strange sounds they make; believe me, we are little more than animals who lucked out and got a big brain so we can pretend we're not.  ::)
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: FrenchFrie on March 03, 2008, 05:16:48 AM
I think everyone has their own motivations. It seems like 90% of all the people in my gym are motivated by vanity. Like those people who will all of a sudden get a membership, gain 15 pounds of muscle in two weeks, and scream for the whole gym to hear him during his sets. All so he could wear a sleeveless shirt at the club and look good in the thumbs up pose.

It does psychologically comfort me to look good and all. For that aspect of it, it's about customization. I like to be able to customize my meat mobile. Sculpt it to look a certain way. And feel a certain way, too, and that's another thing. For me, it's more about feeling good. I like to be able to feel healthy, lively, energetic, and of course strong. It gives one the incentive to live a healthy lifestyle.

Other reasons I'd say is for it's discipline and meditative benefits. Working out is also great because you can have a shitty day but go to the gym and take it out on a back workout and feel like all the day's shittiness was insignificant.

true.

plus being able to be focused and driven in your bodybuilding passion often allow you to be patient, focused and driven for others endeavours in life like work , relationships etc.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: jaejonna on March 03, 2008, 05:31:33 AM
Why ask why , Sevetease is gayer than fruitloops and grapefruit for breakfast
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: ironneck on March 03, 2008, 05:52:28 AM
Why ask why , Sevetease is gayer than fruitloops and grapefruit for breakfast

i actually like fruitloops,does that make me gay?
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Swedish Viking on March 03, 2008, 05:56:43 AM
   This is a really great question and one that's been on my mind a whole lot lately.  Why am I even doing this anymore?  I have a good body and I am even starting to think that any bigger than I already am just looks a little un-attractive-like a guy that wears make up or something...trying TOO hard to look good.  
   The people that are really dedicated bodybuilders just for the sake of bodybuilding, look at it like a puzzle or a house or something.  It's a project that they are constantly trying to better, and perfect.  But those are the ones that define better and perfect as bigger and leaner. What about feeling good, what about having a social life, what about being able to play sports and do other fun activities, AND what about good health?
   I would never have said these things a couple of years ago, but that was when I was convinced that I had to be the best in everything for it to be even worth doing.  Now I think a little differently.  It's best to just be as good as you can and WANT to be, within the confines of happiness(which encompasses a ton of different things)
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Deicide on March 03, 2008, 06:02:47 AM
  This is a really great question and one that's been on my mind a whole lot lately.  Why am I even doing this anymore?  I have a good body and I am even starting to think that any bigger than I already am just looks a little un-attractive-like a guy that wears make up or something...trying TOO hard to look good.  
   The people that are really dedicated bodybuilders just for the sake of bodybuilding, look at it like a puzzle or a house or something.  It's a project that they are constantly trying to better, and perfect.  But those are the ones that define better and perfect as bigger and leaner. What about feeling good, what about having a social life, what about being able to play sports and do other fun activities, AND what about good health?
   I would never have said these things a couple of years ago, but that was when I was convinced that I had to be the best in everything for it to be even worth doing.  Now I think a little differently.  It's best to just be as good as you can and WANT to be, within the confines of happiness(which encompasses a ton of different things)

Are you really Swedish?
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Swedish Viking on March 03, 2008, 06:05:28 AM
haha, yes but I grew up in the States-have lived back and forth in both countries for a long time.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Deicide on March 03, 2008, 06:08:30 AM
haha, yes but I grew up in the States-have lived back and forth in both countries for a long time.

Det er bra. Svensken bemannar har bra genetik för bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Swedish Viking on March 03, 2008, 06:12:04 AM
Yea, I've got some pretty good genetics, but now I feel like maybe I just don't care so much if I look any better or worse. I've got an obcession with my head looking to small for my body. haha, I feel like that happens much earlier than most people think it does!  I see it all the time in the gym.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Deicide on March 03, 2008, 06:15:58 AM
Yea, I've got some pretty good genetics, but now I feel like maybe I just don't care so much if I look any better or worse. I've got an obcession with my head looking to small for my body. haha, I feel like that happens much earlier than most people think it does!  I see it all the time in the gym.

Jag önskar att jag hade bra genetik.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Vince B on March 03, 2008, 06:17:04 AM
The word that describes why most bodybuild is transcendence. We yearn to be something more than what we are now. This is a social motive because we are comparing ourselves to others. We surely transcend mediocrity when we win one of those ridiculous Mr titles. Large muscles are still noticed by everyone and perhaps envied and respected as well. While big muscles might not be what women say they are looking for, most musclemen will find that having a good physique is not a handicap. Being bigger and stronger than the average man is a bonus and a good deterrent to others not to mess with you.

In life we make choices and decide what is worth while. When our choices involve danger or risks then only the brave and or foolish succeed. I doubt any sensible, educated person would elect to take the risks associated with professional bodybuilding.  
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: DK II on March 03, 2008, 06:22:52 AM
The word that describes why most bodybuild is transcendence. We yearn to be something more than what we are now. This is a social motive because we are comparing ourselves to others. We surely transcend mediocrity when we win one of those ridiculous Mr titles. Large muscles are still noticed by everyone and perhaps envied and respected as well. While big muscles might not be what women say they are looking for, most musclemen will find that having a good physique is not a handicap. Being bigger and stronger than the average man is a bonus and a good deterrent to others not to mess with you.

In life we make choices and decide what is worth while. When our choices involve danger or risks then only the brave and or foolish succeed. I doubt any sensible, educated person would elect to take the risks associated with professional bodybuilding.  

bla bla bla, did you watch X-Factor today?

bodybuilding is not a metaphysic super-illusion, actually there are people out there who are just having fun training.

Hope this helps.


P.S.: You are fat Vince.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 03, 2008, 06:29:51 AM
Because the human kind feels the need to grow (in any way they can) We all need to see some progression in life, it makes us satisfied and happy. Wether it be your body that is gaining, looking better or getting the keys to the bakery. You must grow in life othrwise you die internally. If you die internally your body wil die too. Body cant live without the brain. After that you die.Why do you think when people stop working, they die often within 2 years.Cause they re too stupid and have no goals left. BB is nice as a hobby, but dont get caught up in only that, you need to flex your brain muscles too.
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Deicide on March 03, 2008, 06:32:50 AM
bla bla bla, did you watch X-Factor today?

bodybuilding is not a metaphysic super-illusion, actually there are people out there who are just having fun training.

Hope this helps.


P.S.: You are fat Vince.

Hope this helps.

Aber da ist schon was rohes, atavistisches, wenn man mit dem Eisen kaempft.....
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: DK II on March 03, 2008, 06:34:48 AM
Aber da ist schon was rohes, atavistisches, wenn man mit dem Eisen kaempft.....

Ich versuch nur gerade dem guten alten Vince ein bißchen auf die eier zu gehen.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: Deicide on March 03, 2008, 06:36:36 AM
Ich versuch nur gerade dem guten alten Vince ein bißchen auf die eier zu gehen.  ;D ;D

Ist auch angekommen!
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: DK II on March 03, 2008, 06:38:48 AM
Ist auch angekommen!

Danke, dann schreibe ich einfach noch mal Vince Basile, das nervt dann besonders wenn man nichts versteht.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Philosophical question...
Post by: wavelength on March 03, 2008, 08:13:19 AM
I work with children every day; I watch their behaviour, as they play in their own filth and with their own snot and excretion, how they hit each other, the strange sounds they make; believe me, we are little more than animals who lucked out and got a big brain so we can pretend we're not.  ::)

See, I don't have to believe you, my world view is based on logic, not irrational belief. Your 'observations' are just ineligible projections.