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Title: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Hustle Man on June 17, 2008, 04:09:21 PM
I am on business travel at in St. Louis this week and I brought the love of my life with me! During my free time today I decided to show my fiancee how the less fortunate lives (East St.Louis). She is naive when it comes to urban America (she is from the highlands of Scotland). She was not afraid at all, she actually went into a local hood rat hang out to buy us afew bottles of juice.

What was funny to me was, if she was originally from the USA she probaby would have stayed away from those type of stores but she went in with full confidence (or naivitiy and actually made friends rather than enemies.

I need a Psych major to decipher this phenom. I don't know if it was her european charm or her just being stand up and unafraid that kepted the ghetto bullies at bey.

I think some of them actually spoke correct english when conversing with her!

(Just goes to show you can change anyone if you are naive but speak to them intelligently!)

WTH folks

What gives here  ???
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Bluto on June 17, 2008, 04:44:48 PM
was it your honeymoon
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: steveeray on June 17, 2008, 04:46:48 PM
Marry her!
Also let her know that she needs to be carefull in areas like that though.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: drkaje on June 17, 2008, 05:00:01 PM
You cheap (Estella might edit it)!!!

Taking your girl on a tour of the hood to save money and them pretending it's some cultural event. :)
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: windsor88 on June 17, 2008, 05:03:07 PM
You still in town Hustleman? 

I would have bought you guys a drink.

PM me if you roll through again.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Original Sin on June 17, 2008, 07:05:15 PM
niaevety gets girls raped and murdered.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: drkaje on June 17, 2008, 07:19:37 PM
niaevety gets girls raped and murdered.

That could happen anywhere, OS.

In some places they murder ya first. :)
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: tonymctones on June 17, 2008, 10:01:05 PM
ehh most folks if you talk to them nicely and dont give attitude or anything are really nice regardless of race or economic status, there are the occasional a-holes though. She was probably just being nice and recieving the same back also if shes good looking that never hurts as well.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Butterbean on June 18, 2008, 05:56:58 AM
ehh most folks if you talk to them nicely and dont give attitude or anything are really nice regardless of race or economic status, there are the occasional a-holes though. She was probably just being nice and recieving the same back
agree
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: CalvinH on June 18, 2008, 06:07:10 AM
Did you stop in and see how SF was doing ???




CalvinH,officially licensed woman's board poster
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Hustle Man on June 18, 2008, 04:24:43 PM
You still in town Hustleman? 

I would have bought you guys a drink.

PM me if you roll through again.
Windsor88,

Had no idea you were in StL. I will be back out in late Aug or early Sept maybe we can hook up then; let's do Ruth Criss'

We are having dinner with my boss and associates tonight and leaving tomorrow morning.



Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Hustle Man on June 18, 2008, 04:25:55 PM
Did you stop in and see how SF was doing ???




CalvinH,officially licensed woman's board poster

I did not know Squad was in StL either damn!
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Hustle Man on June 18, 2008, 04:40:11 PM
You cheap (Estella might edit it)!!!

Taking your girl on a tour of the hood to save money and them pretending it's some cultural event. :)

It was chocked full of laughs but she handled herself very well.

At one point I though about intervening but the locals were very nice to her while she asked for directions and local attractions lol I should have broke out the cmera and made a documentary lol

Scottish accent meets Midwestern American broken english (I don't know which was worst) LMAO!

Okay now time to have dinner with "twice removed" family! Take care people!

HM (not in charge at all this time lol)

Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: drkaje on June 19, 2008, 07:52:48 AM
She probably feels good knowing your kids won't grow up in such a harsh place. :)
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: 24KT on June 19, 2008, 11:06:02 PM
You cheap (Estella might edit it)!!!

Taking your girl on a tour of the hood to save money and them pretending it's some cultural event. :)

(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/rotflmao.gif)

You are such an incorrigible, jaded, cynical, ...but you have me in hysterics!  ;D
Hustleman, don't listen to them. It's not unusual at all. I've had the exact same thing happen to me too.

Interestingly enough, I've also had others revert back to proper english when they realized I don't speak colloquial ebonics. And in some neighbourhoods I've had others appear nervous when I walk into a room, and just calm down and relax after a few minutes. Trample down the stereotype, but use common sense too.

OS, I could be wrong, ...but I think a woman stands a far greater chance of being raped in a college dorm on a Saturday, by her "boyfriend", than she does simply by walking into an ethnically diverse neighbourhood, or a low income ghetto.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Butterbean on June 20, 2008, 12:09:05 PM
And in some neighbourhoods I've had others appear nervous when I walk into a room, and just calm down and relax after a few minutes.

Did they think you were a narc or something?  Why do you think they were nervous when you walked into the room  ???
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: 24KT on June 20, 2008, 01:03:15 PM
Did they think you were a narc or something?  Why do you think they were nervous when you walked into the room  ???

A narc?! {lol} I guess those stereotypes do die hard don't they?  ;)

No STella, this occured in Beverly Hills and Bel Air, ...and I think they weren't accustomed to Black people.
For some of the people, Blacks were people they saw on TV, and in the nightly news,
...but they never really spoke with one in person. Go figure.  :-\
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: The ChemistV2 on June 20, 2008, 01:16:51 PM
I am on business travel at in St. Louis this week and I brought the love of my life with me! During my free time today I decided to show my fiancee how the less fortunate lives (East St.Louis). She is naive when it comes to urban America (she is from the highlands of Scotland). She was not afraid at all, she actually went into a local hood rat hang out to buy us afew bottles of juice.

What was funny to me was, if she was originally from the USA she probaby would have stayed away from those type of stores but she went in with full confidence (or naivitiy and actually made friends rather than enemies.

I need a Psych major to decipher this phenom. I don't know if it was her european charm or her just being stand up and unafraid that kepted the ghetto bullies at bey.

I think some of them actually spoke correct english when conversing with her!

(Just goes to show you can change anyone if you are naive but speak to them intelligently!)

WTH folks

What gives here  ???


I hoped that you explained to her how if she were to go alone there at night, and tried being friendly with the "locals", she could probably be gang-raped and murdered. But if you tried to tell that that all she had to do is be sociable with those types, then that was highly irresponsible. Although you've defended low-life criminals in some of your past posts by saying they were victims of unfortunate socio-economic conditions, when statistics and reality clearly show different, if you care about this girl, keep her as far away from that environment as possible. You think it might be cool to show her that you're down with the "homies", but you could be giving her a false sense of security. Take her to nice places with sophisticated people with class. Leave the Ghetto in your past.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Butterbean on June 20, 2008, 01:23:23 PM
A narc?! {lol} I guess those stereotypes do die hard don't they?  ;)


I thought you were saying that the people in the places like Hustle Man took his girl were nervous when you walked into the room!



No STella, this occured in Beverly Hills and Bel Air, ...and I think they weren't accustomed to Black people.
For some of the people, Blacks were people they saw on TV, and in the nightly news,
...but they never really spoke with one in person. Go figure.  :-\
Dang when was this?  Hopefully many many years ago.

Do you have any comments for the following thread:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=219696.0
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Geo on June 20, 2008, 01:37:01 PM
I am on business travel at in St. Louis this week and I brought the love of my life with me! During my free time today I decided to show my fiancee how the less fortunate lives (East St.Louis). She is naive when it comes to urban America (she is from the highlands of Scotland). She was not afraid at all, she actually went into a local hood rat hang out to buy us afew bottles of juice.

What was funny to me was, if she was originally from the USA she probaby would have stayed away from those type of stores but she went in with full confidence (or naivitiy and actually made friends rather than enemies.

I need a Psych major to decipher this phenom. I don't know if it was her european charm or her just being stand up and unafraid that kepted the ghetto bullies at bey.

I think some of them actually spoke correct english when conversing with her!

(Just goes to show you can change anyone if you are naive but speak to them intelligently!)

WTH folks

What gives here  ???


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Banana.png/98px-Banana.png)

sending her in there without a peace offering was pretty damned irresponsible of ya
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: 24KT on June 20, 2008, 02:24:56 PM
I thought you were saying that the people in the places like Hustle Man took his girl were nervous when you walked into the room!

I know you were, that's why I say stereotypes die hard. I got the distinct impression you associated the neighbourhood with drug dealing. I could be wrong, but all I read from HM's post was that she was in an area where people are less fortunate. He didn't say he took her into command central for the Medellin cartel, just that the neighbourhood was less fortunate.

I could be wrong, since I'm not the most familiar with St. Louis, but what I do know is that there are many areas that consist of lower income people, who simply have less money than others, but that doesn't mean they're not still hard working good people, with self-respect, community pride, and decent values.

BTW - From personal experience, I've noticed most drug dealers are to be found in most of the nicer neighbourhoods. That's how many can afford to live there in the 1st place.  ;)

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Dang when was this?  Hopefully many many years ago.

It was a few years back, ...but not as many years back as one would assume.
In fact, relatively speaking I'd say it was rather recent, ...oh well, times are changing.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Hustle Man on June 20, 2008, 05:43:22 PM
I hoped that you explained to her how if she were to go alone there at night, and tried being friendly with the "locals", she could probably be gang-raped and murdered. But if you tried to tell that that all she had to do is be sociable with those types, then that was highly irresponsible. Although you've defended low-life criminals in some of your past posts by saying they were victims of unfortunate socio-economic conditions, when statistics and reality clearly show different, if you care about this girl, keep her as far away from that environment as possible. You think it might be cool to show her that you're down with the "homies", but you could be giving her a false sense of security. Take her to nice places with sophisticated people with class. Leave the Ghetto in your past.

I think you could have communicated your opinion in a slightly different manor but I respect what you have to say. I was close by and she was in no more harm than I was and yes I do care for her much! I was not showing her that I was "down with the "homies"! There are ghettos here in SO Md. but she is used to them and what better place to show a ghetto then East St Louis.

HM AKA (Ghetto Jones)

Thanks for the concern bro!
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Hustle Man on June 20, 2008, 05:44:43 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Banana.png/98px-Banana.png)

sending her in there without a peace offering was pretty damned irresponsible of ya

Oh that's cold bro LMAO!
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: windsor88 on June 20, 2008, 06:47:34 PM
Here is an article in Time Magazine from 1989  and after 20 years it is much worse.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,957921,00.html

When I was 18 or so in 1988 we used to go by this place called pot in the box.  It was next to a strip club called the Red Garter and Roxy's.  People would be lined up day and night getting weed in $10 sacks that they slid through this little hole from what appeared to be an outhouse.  They had cameras, dudes with guns and some mean ass dogs.  They switched to crack later on though.  >:(

I could seriously write a book on the escapades me and my buddies had in east side.  I skipped my prom to go to a strip club and the Mayor of ESTL at the time was in there getting fucked up.  We were only 17 and nobody cared.  It was a teenagers dream. 

It was a real life New Jack City to be honest...lol.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Butterbean on June 21, 2008, 08:04:46 AM

Interestingly enough, I've also had others revert back to proper english when they realized I don't speak colloquial ebonics. And in some neighbourhoods I've had others appear nervous when I walk into a room, and just calm down and relax after a few minutes.

Since the above sentences were in the same paragraph I assumed you were talking about neighborhoods like HM mentioned in both sentences. 

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I know you were, that's why I say stereotypes die hard. I got the distinct impression you associated the neighbourhood with drug dealing. I could be wrong, but all I read from HM's post was that she was in an area where people are less fortunate. He didn't say he took her into command central for the Medellin cartel, just that the neighbourhood was less fortunate.

I could be wrong, since I'm not the most familiar with St. Louis, but what I do know is that there are many areas that consist of lower income people, who simply have less money than others, but that doesn't mean they're not still hard working good people, with self-respect, community pride, and decent values.


HM was talking about East St. Louis...and of course there are decent people everywhere but windsor88's article can help you to understand a little better.




BTW - From personal experience, I've noticed most drug dealers are to be found in most of the nicer neighbourhoods. That's how many can afford to live there in the 1st place.  ;)



That may be from your personal experience because those were the types of places you went and yes, they do exist but my police officer friends can assure you that most drug dealers are not found living in nicer neighborhoods.  Although "nicer [neighborhoods]" can be a relative term.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Faust on June 21, 2008, 09:13:29 AM
What's next? A trip to the trailer park?
Don't spoil her Hustle man! Keep that for the second holiday.  ;D
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: 24KT on June 21, 2008, 11:00:48 AM
Since the above sentences were in the same paragraph I assumed you were talking about neighborhoods like HM mentioned in both sentences. 

I know you were, that's why I said stereotypes die hard.

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HM was talking about East St. Louis...and of course there are decent people everywhere but windsor88's article can help you to understand a little better.

Windsor's article posted well after HM's refers to East St. Louis Illinois. I was under the impression that HM was refering to the east side of St. Louis, Missouri. Up here we put the North, South, East West descriptives AFTER rather than before as you guys like to do it, and not being as familiar with many US cities, I thought he was refering to St. Louis, MO. I believe I qualified that in my statement saying I wasn't familiar with the city.

In any event, there was nothing in HM's post to indicate the area was a high crime rate one, ...simply that the people were less fortunate.


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That may be from your personal experience because those were the types of places you went and yes, they do exist but my police officer friends can assure you that most drug dealers are not found living in nicer neighborhoods.  Although "nicer [neighborhoods]" can be a relative term.

Maybe your police officer friends should work a better beat.  {lol} :P 

Last night after I posted that, I happened to pick up the paper and there was a huge article about TO's latest drug bust. Maybe drug dealers in Canada are swankier than those in the USA, ...or maybe our police focus more on destroying the beehive rather than swatting the individual drones (http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/em/shrug.gif), ...but John DeLorean was a pretty swanky high profile take down.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2008, 11:10:48 AM
It's kind of endearing that people actually think black guys* in the hood are licking their chops waiting for an innocent white woman to make a wrong turn, LOL!

Please make the world a better place and get over yourselves right now!


*Note: Didn't feel the "N-word" would be appropriate, though it would have made the point better and been much funnier... to me.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Butterbean on June 21, 2008, 11:23:59 AM
It's kind of endearing that people actually think black guys* in the hood are licking their chops waiting for an innocent white woman to make a wrong turn, LOL!

Please make the world a better place and get over yourselves right now!


*Note: Didn't feel the "N-word" would be appropriate, though it would have made the point better and been much funnier... to me.

Did I miss the part in HM's post where he stated the people his girl encountered in the local hood rat hang out were black men?




It was a few years back, ...but not as many years back as one would assume.
In fact, relatively speaking I'd say it was rather recent, ...oh well, times are changing.
What year was it?
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2008, 11:37:24 AM
Did I miss the part in HM's post where he stated the people his girl encountered in the local hood rat hang out were black men?

You missed the cultural cues.  :)

I'd never assert the 'hood' is a place without hazzard. That would be a lie. Some of the assumptions people made after his post regarding her relative safety and so on were just plain silly.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: 24KT on June 21, 2008, 11:49:58 AM

What year was it?

Ya right, ...and date myself?
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: 24KT on June 21, 2008, 11:50:47 AM

You missed the cultural cues.  :)


That would appear to be the case she's building.  ;)
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2008, 12:02:47 PM
That would appear to be the case she's building.  ;)

I found HM's perspective, as an amateur Cultural Anthropologist, amusing.

The other stuff was just silly.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: windsor88 on June 21, 2008, 04:12:06 PM

Windsor's article posted well after HM's refers to East St. Louis Illinois. I was under the impression that HM was refering to the east side of St. Louis, Missouri. Up here we put the North, South, East West descriptives AFTER rather than before as you guys like to do it, and not being as familiar with many US cities, I thought he was refering to St. Louis, MO. I believe I qualified that in my statement saying I wasn't familiar with the city.


E St. Louis is directly acros the Mississippi from St. Louis, Missouri.  Sorta like how There is Kansas City Missouri and also a Kansas City, Kansas.  Yeah its weird.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Hustle Man on June 22, 2008, 12:18:39 AM
E St. Louis is directly acros the Mississippi from St. Louis, Missouri.  Sorta like how There is Kansas City Missouri and also a Kansas City, Kansas.  Yeah its weird.

Thx for clearing that up for me Windsor88 I did'nt think to clarify for non-Americans. BTW I love that well kept secret of gambling on the Mississippi we had great fun!

For everone's Info,

The Store was owned or ran by people of Middle Eastern heritage the patrons were diverse in ethnicity however it was still the ghetto!

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amateur Cultural Anthropologist
Now that's funny lol!
It's always fun and exciting experiencing unfamiliar territory and meeting the everyday folk; however precarious the environment may be! I remember, during my Navy days pulling into Naples, Italy.

The brass said "DO NOT” go into the "GUT" (The Italian/Sicilian ghettos of Naples, Italy or Palermo, Sicily) of course I went just like every other red blooded American sailor to see why these places were off limits.

The locals were interesting, inquisitive and genuinely down to earth folk but of course those areas were saturated with vices waiting for the gullible.

All this to say she enjoyed herself!

Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: drkaje on June 22, 2008, 06:03:42 AM
HM,

I sent you a text last week.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Hustle Man on June 23, 2008, 08:37:27 AM
HM,

I sent you a text last week.

Resend please my son and accidentally swapped phones and he probably deleted the message.

HM
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: drkaje on June 23, 2008, 09:03:02 AM
No biggie, HM. Was a Happy Father's day message.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Hustle Man on June 23, 2008, 12:59:16 PM
No biggie, HM. Was a Happy Father's day message.

Damn Jake,

I must be eating too much TOFU I kinda got all choked up! Actually I have been very emotional lately! My lady reminded me that Tofu has a lot of estrogen is that true?

I am actually enjoying my daughters' girly shows (Hannah Montana... etc) What gives?

And I have actually been listening to my ex-wife bitch and moan about nothing.

My fiancee is always all ears I don't get it (how the ex and my S.O. get along so well)

Damn I am rambling I think the Tofu kicked in during this post.

I need help!!!!
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Butterbean on June 23, 2008, 02:12:39 PM
Damn Jake,

I must be eating too much TOFU I kinda got all choked up! Actually I have been very emotional lately! My lady reminded me that Tofu has a lot of estrogen is that true?

I am actually enjoying my daughters' girly shows (Hannah Montana... etc) What gives?

And I have actually been listening to my ex-wife bitch and moan about nothing.

My fiancee is always all ears I don't get it (how the ex and my S.O. get along so well)

Damn I am rambling I think the Tofu kicked in during this post.

I need help!!!!
;D :)
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: drkaje on June 24, 2008, 06:41:18 AM
It's the Tofu. I pretty much avoid any soy products except for the occasional bean sprouts on vietnamese food.

Soy is so estrogenic that it's crazy.

Just stop eating girly food and you should be fine. :)
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Hustle Man on June 24, 2008, 09:18:29 AM
No biggie, HM. Was a Happy Father's day message.

Doc, sent you a test text yesterday to the number you PMed me did you get it?
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: drkaje on June 24, 2008, 09:58:37 AM
Got it.

Thanks!!
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Butterbean on June 24, 2008, 10:16:30 AM
I think I've got drkaje's number here somewhere.

Maybe I'll start texting him stories about my pets...and their pics! :D
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: drkaje on June 24, 2008, 10:19:06 AM
I think I've got drkaje's number here somewhere.

Maybe I'll start texting him stories about my pets...and their pics! :D

I'll text you back naked pics of myself, LOL!
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Hustle Man on June 24, 2008, 10:23:14 AM
I'll text you back naked pics of myself, LOL!

As long as you don't Cc me on those!
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: drkaje on June 24, 2008, 10:24:20 AM
As long as you don't Cc me on those!

Was a joke!!!  :)
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Butterbean on June 24, 2008, 10:27:34 AM
I'll text you back naked pics of myself, LOL!
>:(

Gotta pass!



I can't send any anyway because I don't think my phone takes pics :'(
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: drkaje on June 24, 2008, 10:32:40 AM
What a pity. :'(
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Butterbean on June 24, 2008, 10:35:53 AM
What a pity. :'(
I can still text you scintillating stories about them though :)
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: drkaje on June 24, 2008, 10:46:06 AM
I can still text you scintillating stories about them though :)

They would probably be more appreciated on the Pet bored.

Not an animal person. Wouldn't even date a girl with pets.
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: 4thAD on July 06, 2008, 09:31:25 AM
I am on business travel at in St. Louis this week and I brought the love of my life with me! During my free time today I decided to show my fiancee how the less fortunate lives (East St.Louis). She is naive when it comes to urban America (she is from the highlands of Scotland). She was not afraid at all, she actually went into a local hood rat hang out to buy us afew bottles of juice.

What was funny to me was, if she was originally from the USA she probaby would have stayed away from those type of stores but she went in with full confidence (or naivitiy and actually made friends rather than enemies.

I need a Psych major to decipher this phenom. I don't know if it was her european charm or her just being stand up and unafraid that kepted the ghetto bullies at bey.

I think some of them actually spoke correct english when conversing with her!

(Just goes to show you can change anyone if you are naive but speak to them intelligently!)

WTH folks

What gives here  ???


I'm still trying to figure out why your so scared of the financially less fortunate?
Title: Re: I took my fiancee to the Ghetto today!
Post by: Hustle Man on July 06, 2008, 08:56:30 PM
I'm still trying to figure out why your so scared of the financially less fortunate?

Scared, where did you get that? This was about my S.O. going somewhere she has never been and not being intimidated.

Have you ever been to E. StL?