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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: jtsunami on July 21, 2008, 10:16:40 PM
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Say you were caught, caught buying or selling some of your left over gear. LE federal or local, would let you go that night no jail at all if you gave them a name of someone you have sold to or have bought from that they do not know of. Would you do it?
For me it's a hard situation. I have my life and I don't want that to be disturbed like anyone else, then theres the part of me that doesn't want to screw up someone else's life as well. I think in the end my selfishness would previal and I would let a name out.
What about you guys, anybody been in this situation?
jt
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I would rat out who ever L.E wanted me, too!
I can't be the best son, brother, grandson, father, ect.....If I'm locked up in jail.
I owe it to the people that love me...to keep myself in a postition to be able to help them in a time of need.
Any drug dealer/user knows how the game is played....and thats the risk dealers/users take. The other guy would rat you out to for a chance of more freedom.
In the end...you have to look out for yourself.....in order to look out for the ones that matter....
There are many codes that a man should live by and not ratting someone out is one of them....but its not a more important code than being their for your loveds ones.Helping out a dealer/customer.....before your family and friends is an even worse code of life to break than ratting out a steroid dealer.
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Say you were caught, caught buying or selling some of your left over gear. LE federal or local, would let you go that night no jail at all if you gave them a name of someone you have sold to or have bought from that they do not know of. Would you do it?
For me it's a hard situation. I have my life and I don't want that to be disturbed like anyone else, then theres the part of me that doesn't want to screw up someone else's life as well. I think in the end my selfishness would previal and I would let a name out.
What about you guys, anybody been in this situation?
jt
Thanks for warning us.
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I would show the cop my prescription. Thanks for your concern officer, have a nice day.
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I never talked and it got worse.
I am bankrupt
My kids interigated and in cps for over 10 months
Was in jail for 4 days then a couple more 6 months later because I did not talk so they filed 3 more felonies.
Cps lady said I threatened to kill her judge revoked my bonds so I was in jail another 24 hours the attorney got judge to re enstate.
That is just a little bit of what has happened. My attorneys has said its better not to talk because you are admitting.
Like my situation. My top guy pointed fingure at me and made it look convencing that I was the top dog.
Then ran when I got arrested then he gets caught by Feds with hundreds of thousands of dollars in gear.
I guess his plan did not work.
If the Feds came to me to have me testify I WOULD.
The only reason I would is I did not start this. I have alot of evidence against Josh that I think they need to see. I would not incriminate anyone else period. I did not start this war but I think I need to end this security threat one way or another, hopefully the right way.
Josh lied on sworn affidavits that can be proven. State cops are idiots and they let him get away
Let the flood gates open, can't get any worse
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Shut your mouth, plead the 5th, and get your attorney to do the talking.
Your attorney can make better deals than you can.
Never rat, sometimes rats get stepped on later in life.
I would be a man and deal with my own choices.
And yes, i have actually been in this situation before, but it wasn't for AAS.
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Josh lied so bad my kids were gone for 10 months
My vehicles gone
my job and rep gone
$200,000 in money I owe
Either I pop him or I go to trial
He alone caused this, this did not accuse from I was not taking safe precautions ECT.
He told them my kids were crimpin vials.
My wife almost died in jail from not having her insulin.
I hope he fuckin dies and I'm actually a nice guy.
He had me hold money ($100,000 roundabout) to keep it safe and did not get paid shit..
I can plea the 5th all I want then all evidence from drop boxes narcotics did not know about points that I was pl.
I almost killed myself over this shit, got a phyciotrist and put on meds.
My dad just got diagnose with leu gerots disease, my mom is disabled and I have 4 kids.
what would YOU do?
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Shut your mouth, plead the 5th, and get your attorney to do the talking.
Your attorney can make better deals than you can.
Never rat, sometimes rats get stepped on later in life.
I would be a man and deal with my own choices.
And yes, i have actually been in this situation before, but it wasn't for AAS.
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Exactly & remember it's not like CSI the detective can't make a deal with you.
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I wouldn't rat anybody out ever. I don't sell gear so I don't have that to worry about. Any user that cant stand on his own two feet should not be in this game. The police do not have the authority to make deals, so keep that in mind when you rat. The DA is the only one who can make deals and then it has to be agreed upon by the judge.
Now for the situation that Steve is in, Josh should go down. Josh fugged Steve over big time...
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snitches get stitches
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if it cut my sentence in 1/2 ... sure .. but i'm not going to do anything that would be worth cutting my sentence in 1/2 if i ever do.
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It would never happen, I am from Philly and people get shanked for that, it is an un-written code...
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If it's a minimal amount, then why not take the heat? Especially if you have no prior convictions... It's your choice/risk for buying in the first place. Not to mention, if you don't have any prior convictions a lot of states offer PTI (Pre-Trial Intervention).
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This shit about not being able to be this great father, son, brother and uncle, is the most selfish thing I've ever heard. What about the other guy's family. Carma is a bitch and it will come around.
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It's a hard thing to answer, if you have your whole life ahead of you, or you have something you are working on now and don't want it interrupted, who knows. The whole snitches get stitches thing is a easy one liner, but it is more complicated than that I think.
I do not know about pre trial intervention what is that ?
jt
and Steve, why did you not give LE this Josh characters name ?
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It's a hard thing to answer, if you have your whole life ahead of you, or you have something you are working on now and don't want it interrupted, who knows.
It's all about being a MAN and taking your lumps like a MAN.
If "I" fuck up, then "I" should do my time.
that's just my opinion of course, as i would never put my family in the postition to begin with.
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This shit about not being able to be this great father, son, brother and uncle, is the most selfish thing I've ever heard. What about the other guy's family. Carma is a bitch and it will come around.
I believe in God's law.........not Carma...Im not hindu
and ratting someone out is acutally telling the truth.......and the "other guy" would rat us out, too!!!
Sometimes you have to be selfish....in order not be selfish!
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I would rat out who ever L.E wanted me, too!
I can't be the best son, brother, grandson, father, ect.....If I'm locked up in jail.
I owe it to the people that love me...to keep myself in a postition to be able to help them in a time of need.
Any drug dealer/user knows how the game is played....and thats the risk dealers/users take. The other guy would rat you out to for a chance of more freedom.
In the end...you have to look out for yourself.....in order to look out for the ones that matter....
There are many codes that a man should live by and not ratting someone out is one of them....but its not a more important code than being their for your loveds ones.Helping out a dealer/customer.....before your family and friends is an even worse code of life to break than ratting out a steroid dealer.
Have to agree with the above if what Overload said didn't work.
"Shut your mouth, plead the 5th, and get your attorney to do the talking.
Your attorney can make better deals than you can".
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I believe in God's law.........not Carma...Im not hindu
and ratting someone out is acutally telling the truth.......and the "other guy" would rat us out, too!!!
Sometimes you have to be selfish....in order not be selfish!
God's law? Being selfish is not a part of God's law, whatever that may be.
To rat on another man so YOUR problems can be held accountable by someone else?
Telling the truth would be admitting that you bought the drugs and only YOU are to blame.
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It's all about being a MAN and taking your lumps like a MAN.
If "I" fuck up, then "I" should do my time.
that's just my opinion of course, as i would never put my family in the postition to begin with.
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More people should think like this 8)
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God's law? Being selfish is not a part of God's law, whatever that may be.
To rat on another man so YOUR problems can be held accountable by someone else?
Telling the truth would be admitting that you bought the drugs and only YOU are to blame.
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You twisting things around....Im not putting blame for my mistakes on someone else...I would just be pointing out the other guys mistakes out as well. Its not the same as having someone else take the wrap for my crime.
The point is....we both, me and the guy I rat out, risked our freedom by doing anything involved with AAS. So if either one of us gets caught we have to do what we can....the other guy is no more innocent or quilty than you.
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You twisting things around....Im not putting blame for my mistakes on someone else...I would just be pointing out the other guys mistakes out as well. Its not the same as having someone else take the wrap for my crime.
The point is....we both, me and the guy I rat out, risked our freedom by doing anything involved with AAS. So if either one of us gets caught we have to do what we can....the other guy is no more innocent or quilty than you.
The topic says that YOU would not go to jail if you rat on someone else.
therefore, the other person IS taking the rap for YOUR problem.
I don't really care, but i find it strange how you see nothing wrong with letting someone else take the fall, instead of YOU.
The fact that both people broke the law has no bearing, YOU got caught, YOU do YOUR time.
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Impossible for me to rat on anyone, just the way I am built from birth...
I'm Italian, it is in our genes not to "rat" 8)
You have all seen mob movies so that should explain everything.
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Impossible for me to rat on anyone, just the way I am built from birth...
I'm Italian, it is in our genes not to "rat" 8)
You have all seen mob movies so that should explain everything.
Concrete shoes?
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Concrete shoes?
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One of many methods, yes!
Along with pencil in the eye, various bodyparts chopped off and grinded down, bombs going off in your favorite Italian resteraunt.....you know, the basics! 8)
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Along with pencil in the eye, various bodyparts chopped off and grinded down,
Seems the Joker is Italian. "I'm going to make this pencil disapear! Taaaaa daaaaaa!!"
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Seems the Joker is Italian. "I'm going to make this pencil disapear! Taaaaa daaaaaa!!"
That was a bad ass performance, eh??!!
Had no idea a gay cowboy could be so freakin creepy ;D
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That was a bad ass performance, eh??!!
Had no idea a gay cowboy could be so freakin creepy ;D
Yea that was an incredible movie, he definitely made it. I just wish he had more screen time.
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I would rat out who ever L.E wanted me, too!
I can't be the best son, brother, grandson, father, ect.....If I'm locked up in jail.
I owe it to the people that love me...to keep myself in a postition to be able to help them in a time of need.
Any drug dealer/user knows how the game is played....and thats the risk dealers/users take. The other guy would rat you out to for a chance of more freedom.
In the end...you have to look out for yourself.....in order to look out for the ones that matter....
There are many codes that a man should live by and not ratting someone out is one of them....but its not a more important code than being their for your loveds ones.Helping out a dealer/customer.....before your family and friends is an even worse code of life to break than ratting out a steroid dealer.
so you wreck someone elses life because youre a punk who gets caught and cant man up....dont do the crime if you cant do the time ...you werent thinking about youre family when you made the drug deal but because you get caught NOW YOURE MR FAMILY MAN......
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Lol busyb your avatar is so funny, what is that?
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Lol busyb your avatar is so funny, what is that?
The gopher from Caddyshack.
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lol
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Getting off topic, have you guys seen this lion reunited video? It was all over today shows and stuff, cool vid :
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That's a great story, I prefer this one and is more accurate to reality:
In 1986, Peter Davies was on holiday in Kenya after graduating from Northwestern University .
On a hike through the bush, he came across a young bull elephant standing with one leg raised in the air. The elephant seemed distressed, so Peter approached it very carefully.
He got down on one knee and inspected the elephant's foot and found a large piece of wood deeply embedded in it. As carefully and as gently as he could, Peter worked the wood out with his hunting knife, after which the elephant gingerly put down its foot.
The elephant turned to face the man, and with a rather curious look on its face, stared at him for several tense moments. Peter stood frozen,thinking of nothing else but being trampled. Eventually the elephant trumpeted loudly, turned, and walked away. Peter never forgot that elephant or the events of that day.
Twenty years later, Peter was walking through the Chicago Zoo with his teenaged son. As they approached the elephant enclosure, one of the creatures turned and walked over to near where Peter and his son Cameron were standing. The large bull elephant stared at Peter, lifted its front foot off the ground, then put it down. The elephant did that several times then trumpeted loudly, all the while staring at the man.
Remembering the encounter in 1986, Peter couldn't help wondering if this was the same elephant. Peter summoned up his courage, climbed over the railing and made his way into the enclosure.
He walked right up to the elephant and stared back in wonder. The elephant trumpeted again, wrapped its trunk around one of Peter legs and slammed his stupid ass against the railing, killing him instantly.
Probably wasn't the same elephant
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JT,
Pre Trial Intervention is a program available in SC, where if someone is caught doing something illegal they are basically given a second chance. For example, me for instance, I was given an open container ticket while crossing the street to go to a neighbors house. I was given the opportunity to pay, of course, and given a second chance while performing community service and attending counseling classes. Sounds stupid, I know, for the charge I was given... but I met people in there with bad addictions, stealing cars, domestic violence, credit card fraud, etc. etc.. etc.. Seems if you fuck up in this state once, they'll give you the opportunity to so-called "rehabilitate" yourself then have it exponged. Seems more about money than anything.
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That's a great story, I prefer this one and is more accurate to reality:
In 1986, Peter Davies was on holiday in Kenya after graduating from Northwestern University .
On a hike through the bush, he came across a young bull elephant standing with one leg raised in the air. The elephant seemed distressed, so Peter approached it very carefully.
He got down on one knee and inspected the elephant's foot and found a large piece of wood deeply embedded in it. As carefully and as gently as he could, Peter worked the wood out with his hunting knife, after which the elephant gingerly put down its foot.
The elephant turned to face the man, and with a rather curious look on its face, stared at him for several tense moments. Peter stood frozen,thinking of nothing else but being trampled. Eventually the elephant trumpeted loudly, turned, and walked away. Peter never forgot that elephant or the events of that day.
Twenty years later, Peter was walking through the Chicago Zoo with his teenaged son. As they approached the elephant enclosure, one of the creatures turned and walked over to near where Peter and his son Cameron were standing. The large bull elephant stared at Peter, lifted its front foot off the ground, then put it down. The elephant did that several times then trumpeted loudly, all the while staring at the man.
Remembering the encounter in 1986, Peter couldn't help wondering if this was the same elephant. Peter summoned up his courage, climbed over the railing and made his way into the enclosure.
He walked right up to the elephant and stared back in wonder. The elephant trumpeted again, wrapped its trunk around one of Peter legs and slammed his stupid ass against the railing, killing him instantly.
Probably wasn't the same elephant
LOLerskates
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JT,
Pre Trial Intervention is a program available in SC, where if someone is caught doing something illegal they are basically given a second chance. For example, me for instance, I was given an open container ticket while crossing the street to go to a neighbors house. I was given the opportunity to pay, of course, and given a second chance while performing community service and attending counseling classes. Sounds stupid, I know, for the charge I was given... but I met people in there with bad addictions, stealing cars, domestic violence, credit card fraud, etc. etc.. etc.. Seems if you fuck up in this state once, they'll give you the opportunity to so-called "rehabilitate" yourself then have it exponged. Seems more about money than anything.
Oh ok, that sounds like it sucks tbo, community service ugh, how long did you have to attend classes and do the community service for?
jt
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The gopher from Caddyshack.
Yup! My childhood favorite movie, with Meatballs a close second for that era ;D
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Say you were caught, caught buying or selling some of your left over gear. LE federal or local, would let you go that night no jail at all if you gave them a name of someone you have sold to or have bought from that they do not know of. Would you do it?
For me it's a hard situation. I have my life and I don't want that to be disturbed like anyone else, then theres the part of me that doesn't want to screw up someone else's life as well. I think in the end my selfishness would previal and I would let a name out.
What about you guys, anybody been in this situation?
jt
I've never been in that situation, but ratting out anyone is a cardinal sin.
Karma has a way of settling the score......
It's good to have friends in every region of the U.S. just in case you need to reach out and touch someone.
DIV
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Impossible for me to rat on anyone, just the way I am built from birth...
I'm Italian, it is in our genes not to "rat" 8)
You have all seen mob movies so that should explain everything.
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that made me laugh busy!!! now go watch some more sopranos for more "sage" advice ;D
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Say you were caught, caught buying or selling some of your left over gear. LE federal or local, would let you go that night no jail at all if you gave them a name of someone you have sold to or have bought from that they do not know of. Would you do it?
jt
A blow job...Arnold jr out!!!
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no one can truly answer this question until they are put in the position to answer.
and the ones that say "id never rat" are about as trustworthy as the one who say they would
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It would never happen, I am from Philly and people get shanked for that, it is an un-written code...
I wonder who will be taking out josh then?
Ga, Samar, O and there is more. To that source that had legal issues march 2007
It was josh not because you lost an employee ;)
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It's a hard thing to answer, if you have your whole life ahead of you, or you have something you are working on now and don't want it interrupted, who knows. The whole snitches get stitches thing is a easy one liner, but it is more complicated than that I think.
I do not know about pre trial intervention what is that ?
jt
and Steve, why did you not give LE this Josh characters name ?
He is on a sworn afidavid against me. There's morebut I really dont feel like going over it again. It gets me twisted
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I'm Italian, it is in our genes not to "rat" 8)
You have all seen mob movies so that should explain everything.
Don't the real life mobsters all pretty much rat?
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candidizzle would rat out anybody here, he threatened me with cops and then claimed i doctored the screenshot.
The mods here dont really understand the potential danger of having that little drugaddict liar but ok, im not in the states so fuck dizzle and the cops, but mods, watch out your ass.
fucking dizzle narq
Who is he going to rat out here? Let him rat on me it'll do him no good since I've never sold & my house is clean & I haven't touched AAS in over a year. For someone who isn't in the states you seem to know everything about US law. ::) You're also just as bad as squadfather - you follow him around the board talking shit. I'm not defending him I'm just pointing out the obvious.
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Don't the real life mobsters all pretty much rat?
I know were Jimmy is ;D
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No offense to anyone....but I bet 99% of those that said they would "not" rat on somebody to save their own ass....if full of shit!!! 8)
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No offense to anyone....but I bet 99% of those that said they would "not" rat on somebody to save their own ass....if full of shit!!! 8)
Think what you want.
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Don't the real life mobsters all pretty much rat?
Yeah, they do nowadays! That is why I reffered to the "movies"
Don't rat your friends, that is how it should be, at least I was raised that way.
My dad and grandpa were just old school like that... 8)
I took the fall over some rec. drugs at a party once for a kid who's parents were so strict, they would have never let him have a normal teenage life until he moved out if he got busted. When the cops called my dad to come get me, he said, "keep him there, sounds like he deserved it!" Thats love....
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Yeah, they do nowadays! That is why I reffered to the "movies"
Don't rat your friends, that is how it should be, at least I was raised that way.
My dad and grandpa were just old school like that... 8)
I took the fall over some rec. drugs at a party once for a kid who's parents were so strict, they would have never let him have a normal teenage life until he moved out if he got busted. When the cops called my dad to come get me, he said, "keep him there, sounds like he deserved it!" Thats love....
i bet that kid still remembers and respects the hell out of you.
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No offense to anyone....but I bet 99% of those that said they would "not" rat on somebody to save their own ass....if full of shit!!! 8)
I would not rat on somebody to save my own ass.
I am not full of shit.
If you ratted on me I'd pay someone (local to your area) to give you a love tap.
I could always have Overload do it..... ;D
DIV
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don't know if i should say something here, but what has the fourm come too???
so much for the brotherhood, if were asking questions like this :'(
aas use has hit the mainstream, things gonna get rough, keep your head up and man up.
snitch or not, you just have to be able to live with yourself at the end of the day. we all die alone but how people are going to remember you is what you have to live with.
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don't know if i should say something here, but what has the fourm come too???
so much for the brotherhood, if were asking questions like this :'(
aas use has hit the mainstream, things gonna get rough, keep your head up and man up.
snitch or not, you just have to be able to live with yourself at the end of the day. we all die alone but how people are going to remember you is what you have to live with.
I always thought that it was your responsibility if you got caught buying/selling...
That's how it works.
Those people who are talking about "ratting" people out........I don't understand them.
Once you cross over to the Darkside, you've already broken the law (unless under legal HRT).
You know that.
I don't think AAS use is a big deal, but getting caught just means you have to take responsibility.
Trying to drag other people down with you is bad for Karma.
It will always come back to haunt you in some way.
People know people. :-X
DIV
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AGREEDED!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOUR NOT MAN ENOUGH TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS THEN DONT FUCKING DO THEM!!! IF you have a pair between your legs then shut your fucking mouth and take what you deserve. ALl this i have kids, i have family bullshit doesnt mean jackshit to me. YOU AND YOU ONLY CHOSE to do what you did. YOUR wife and kids had no say so in this. IT was your sole decision!! ALL LIABLITIES rest on you..THis is shit you should think about before you chose to do what you do, after all every man has to be held accountable for his actions and if you can take responsibility then you are a fucking coward!! FOr all of you who previously stated that you would dime out someone then fuck you. You dont belong on this board or this Forum. There are risks involved in everything you do. If you decide to bungee jump you accept the risk you may die!!!! If you chose to deal or play a hand in the GEar game you are accepting the same responsibility. As Division stated before, No one is far enough away to be found. Even if you rat someone out and dont do time, you will get whats coming to you!!! LOVE TAP is kind words from the gentleman Division!! Knowing people and making contacts is a good thing to have!! There is a price that can be put on anybodys head. Remember the reprocussions before you play in this game and decide your mouth is something that cant be locked.
BE A MAN, NOT A PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I always thought that it was your responsibility if you got caught buying/selling...
That's how it works.
Those people who are talking about "ratting" people out........I don't understand them.
Once you cross over to the Darkside, you've already broken the law (unless under legal HRT).
You know that.
I don't think AAS use is a big deal, but getting caught just means you have to take responsibility.
Trying to drag other people down with you is bad for Karma.
It will always come back to haunt you in some way.
People know people. :-X
DIV
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I am willing to bet most not all of the people who are so adiment about saying snitches get stitches would be the first to rat someone out. Who says you arn't taking responsibility if you admit to the cops yes you did it, but they will let you go with no record or anything, no jail time if you just let out a name of another seller, user, so they can get to the top of the chain of things. After all everybody is breaking the law, so why should you be the one who has to pay the price? In the end we are all very selfish and not many people like to admit that, only a select few could actually not snitch if they were offered no jail no record etc, no one would know who snitched them out anyhow, the cops would keep it quiet.
jt
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There are ways of finding out anything my friend. I have friends with the FBI who put people in Witness Protection Program and guess what......they are no longer around....you snitch...you will pay eventually
And its not up to the LE to offer plea agreements. This rests with the PROSECUTION AND JUDGE!!! I went to law school for 2 years. i know the system very well
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Yes of course, trying to scare people not to tell on somebody else, why because you want your ass saved. It's all a game of selfishness. You don't want to goto jail, nor do I. I never said I snitched, this is all a thread about when and what conditions. Everybody has their price I believe.
And there are plenty of snitches who live a very nice comfortable life, and never have any negative consequences.
jt
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There are ways of finding out anything my friend. I have friends with the FBI who put people in Witness Protection Program and guess what......they are no longer around....you snitch...you will pay eventually
And its not up to the LE to offer plea agreements. This rests with the PROSECUTION AND JUDGE!!! I went to law school for 2 years. i know the system very well
Exactly. The Detectives job is to get you to confess & sometimes they'll say anything.
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No offense to anyone....but I bet 99% of those that said they would "not" rat on somebody to save their own ass....if full of shit!!! 8)
Speak for yourself.
I've already lived it, and i paid my own way...
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It's a hard thing to answer, if you have your whole life ahead of you, or you have something you are working on now and don't want it interrupted, who knows. The whole snitches get stitches thing is a easy one liner, but it is more complicated than that I think.
I do not know about pre trial intervention what is that ?
jt
and Steve, why did you not give LE this Josh characters name ?
how about not commiting the crime. If you decide do do something illegal then take it like a man. You should have thought about your family before doing it. Know the consequences.
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This thread could translate to a lot of aspects of one's life. I'm sure you guys & gals know that person who gets caught at work breaking a rule & then tells the boss about everyone else who's breaking that rule(s).
It all boils down to manning up & taking responsibility for your actions.
However, if you're looking at 20+ years it may be a different story. & few if any have been there so we won't know what we'll do unless we're in that position. Basically all this matcho talk about how we'd never rat could be worthless if you're you're looking at a huge prison term.
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This thread could translate to a lot of aspects of one's life. I'm sure you guys & gals know that person who gets caught at work breaking a rule & then tells the boss about everyone else who's breaking that rule(s).
It all boils down to manning up & taking responsibility for your actions.
However, if you're looking at 20+ years it may be a different story. & few if any have been there so we won't know what we'll do unless we're in that position. Basically all this matcho talk about how we'd never rat could be worthless if you're you're looking at a huge prison term.
Exactly good post Rim
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Exactly good post Rim
Thanks. There's a lot of people here are talking about taking the fall for someone &/or taking their lumps when they could have ratted on someone (which I applaud by the way) to get out of trouble. However, I doubt they were looking at a mandatory (& stupidly) lengthy sentence for drugs, etc - that could & probably would change things drastically.
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I wonder who will be taking out josh then?
Ga, Samar, O and there is more. To that source that had legal issues march 2007
It was josh not because you lost an employee ;)
What the fuck are you talking about and what the fuck does that have to with me or what I said???
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Thanks. There's a lot of people here are talking about taking the fall for someone &/or taking their lumps when they could have ratted on someone (which I applaud by the way) to get out of trouble. However, I doubt they were looking at a mandatory (& stupidly) lengthy sentence for drugs, etc - that could & probably would change things drastically.
No, I haven't Rimbaud.........
But I've been in this game for a long time and seen many people come and go.....
If I get taken down, helping LE is not an option regardless.
The 5th works.......
DIV
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Thanks. There's a lot of people here are talking about taking the fall for someone &/or taking their lumps when they could have ratted on someone (which I applaud by the way) to get out of trouble. However, I doubt they were looking at a mandatory (& stupidly) lengthy sentence for drugs, etc - that could & probably would change things drastically.
Thats exactly why when I answered this question I stated that I am not a source. I will never be charged with those type of charges. Even so prison terms for steroid sources are really not that lengthy. If your a source and are not willing to do the time, DONT SOURCE! I feel it could be extremely risky to rat people out. You may get a lesser sentence, but you would probably be watching your back all the time.
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No, I haven't Rimbaud.........
But I've been in this game for a long time and seen many people come and go.....
If I get taken down, helping LE is not an option regardless.
The 5th works.......
DIV
I doubt don't your convictions just like I don't don't doubt my own but you'll/we'll/I'll never know unless we're (god forbid) in that situation.
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Thats exactly why when I answered this question I stated that I am not a source. I will never be charged with those type of charges. Even so prison terms for steroid sources are really not that lengthy. If your a source and are not willing to do the time, DONT SOURCE! I feel it could be extremely risky to rat people out. You may get a lesser sentence, but you would probably be watching your back all the time.
I wasn't just talking about steroids.
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ive seen what small time criminals do to people who snitch.... i can only imagine what someone up i the game would do.
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I doubt don't your convictions just like I don't don't doubt my own but you'll/we'll/I'll never know unless we're (god forbid) in that situation.
Life is a risk.
Whatever happens, happens.
Of course one can't predict what will happen, but I've always been the type of guy to plot my own course.
LE have their own motives and I understand they will try and convict people if they can, that's what they do.
I just know myself too well, to really bring heat on others if I should get caught up.
Not all of us are furry ewoks, Rimbauder. ;D
DIV
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Life is a risk.
Whatever happens, happens.
Of course one can't predict what will happen, but I've always been the type of guy to plot my own course.
LE have their own motives and I understand they will try and convict people if they can, that's what they do.
I just know myself too well, to really bring heat on others if I should get caught up.
Not all of us are furry ewoks, Rimbauder. ;D
DIV
Amen.
As for the furry part - I've shaved...my head.
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ive seen what small time criminals do to people who snitch.... i can only imagine what someone up i the game would do.
In the steroid world snitches seem to be very safe. Nothing ever seems to happen to them. In the end the one ratted on probably decides it's not worth the additional risk to get it "taken care of". Say someone fingered you for juice and you got probation or short sentence - are going to get him killed and risk your future? Not likely. Valentino always talks about the numerous rats on the O stage. Titus was a known rat and got away with it. And etc etc.
If you ratted on me I'd pay someone (local to your area) to give you a love tap.
DIV
If a dealer told the cops you bought gear from him you'd pay for a "love tap" and risk a very lengthy sentence?
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If a dealer told the cops you bought gear from him you'd pay for a "love tap" and risk a very lengthy sentence?
If I was looking at some hard time because he snitched on me, I'd look through contacts and see if I could hook something up.
Of course.
There are some people on here who would definitely do the same. :D
DIV
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Ill be honest. My life sux because I was not the rat. Some of you bros trusted source screwed alot of people. I'm looking at 132 year and he is looking at 10 mabe 20. Fuk you all who think you know it all.
Until you stand looking as your kids are taken away and your in jail and they tell you your wife is non responsive. Those who think they know it all. I took the baseball bat by the cops and I'm still walking. Those of your with pm's saying he didn't rat. Fuk yourselfs. No one helped me after my bust except ms. I didn't bust myself I was rated by pinnacle labs you bros trusted source who people stood by. You didn't see his name on the bust list. Of coarse not. You saw mine. Tired of fukin know it all never been in the game people.
tired of people like gh15
your a rat to. You know they make rat traps for big pussys too!
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Huh I didn't know pinnacle labs rated on you. That sux, if I was looking at something like 20 years that would take away most of my life as far as I see it, I would rat. I would rather be free and watching my back then in prison. You can always move outside the US and stay low if you really feel your security is at risk.
jt
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Also if you do not rat or give them someones name, I am sure down the hall there is a couple eager guys waiting to rat out someone to get out of the jam, so what does not ratting do for you, just protects you from bad karma or getting fucked up ?
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what does not ratting do for you, just protects you from bad karma or getting fucked up ?
Pretty much.
Do you really want to live your life watching your back?
If you have a girlfriend/wife, do you really want to chance that something happens to her?
All because you wanted to make things easier for yourself instead of taking responsibility?
DIV
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Definitely, if my other choice would be sitting in a jail cell for 20 years or living with looking behind my back, I would choose the later and be free. I would prolly end up moving if it was that much of a worry. I am talking big jail time though, and the person I would probably rat out would be the person who was the worst to me, or wasn't a good buyer/seller. Not a good guy.
jt
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Pretty much.
Do you really want to live your life watching your back?
If you have a girlfriend/wife, do you really want to chance that something happens to her?
All because you wanted to make things easier for yourself instead of taking responsibility?
DIV
The truth is that 99% of the time no one retaliates. They just talk tough like the would.
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The truth is that 99% of the time no one retaliates. They just talk tough like the would.
Right, kind of like david.
People want to believe they are safe til one day it is a bad day
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Good thread, I wish natural wonder would come in Ill send him a link and see if he can add anything to the discussion.
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NO mattre what do you ever rat anyone out just to save you own ass.if your dumb enough to get caught you gotta just do the time there is no need to bring someone elses dreams and future down beacause you got caught
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never in a million years would i rat someone out...i believe in karma and for everything we do in this life we will have to pay the consequences at some point...maybe in this life...maybe in another...sure it would be the easy way out but i could never live w/ myself after ratting
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never in a million years would i rat someone out...i believe in karma and for everything we do in this life we will have to pay the consequences at some point...maybe in this life...maybe in another...sure it would be the easy way out but i could never live w/ myself after ratting
Great post, just as I was thinking it would be awesome if you posted in this thread you did! Very respectful way of going down with the situation and very mature.
jt
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I wonder how many of you, "roids experts" have been in jail, i wonder how many of you "roids experts" have exchanged info with our resident piece of shit "expert" candi"dizzle"?
You all, including my fellow mods & friends, are nothing but a bunch of idiots for having a kid & threat like dizzle, allowed here.
Ive been to the the place where it all happens, how about you all warriors? Do you all think you are "secure" enough by just using a proxy? hahha idiots
thats it!
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I wonder how many of you, "roids experts" have been in jail, i wonder how many of you "roids experts" have exchanged info with our resident piece of shit "expert" candi"dizzle"?
You all, including my fellow mods & friends, are nothing but a bunch of idiots for having a kid & threat like dizzle, allowed here.
Ive been to the the place where it all happens, how about you all warriors? Do you all think you are "secure" enough by just using a proxy? hahha idiots
thats it!
Exchanged info meaning what exactly, benz?
Mods don't have the power to ban, only the owner does.....
Trust me, the issue with candidizzle has been taken care of.
DIV
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Exchanged info meaning what exactly, benz?
Mods don't have the power to ban, only the owner does.....
Trust me, the issue with candidizzle has been taken care of.
DIV
div, dizzle is a fucking idiot and i doubt anybody here has been to any hormones factory in china (besides me thats it)
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div, dizzle is a fucking idiot and i doubt anybody here has been to any hormones factory in china (besides me thats it)
Ron has taken care of the issue.......if he wanted to ban candizzle, he would have.
It's not exactly my say who gets banned, bro.
DIV
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Ron has taken care of the issue.......if he wanted to ban candizzle, he would have.
It's not exactly my say who gets banned, bro.
DIV
not braggin but im the only one ever been to a factory in china and im no expert (but sure our resident candi narq can answer some questions?)
respect to steveray!
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not braggin but im the only one ever been to a factory in china and im no expert (but sure our resident candi narq can answer some questions?)
respect to steveray!
nice use of a disclaimer
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I think 'Benz' is drunk ;D
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I think 'Benz' is drunk ;D
When you've got the type of connections that benz has, you can live "drunk" and no one will care.
If I had that kind of "backing", I'd probably move to Bolivia and build a mansion in the middle of nowhere.
DIV
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When you've got the type of connections that benz has, you can live "drunk" and no one will care.
If I had that kind of "backing", I'd probably move to Bolivia and build a mansion in the middle of nowhere.
DIV
why do you think im a sort of druglord? im a honest man, very honest and ive never been involved in anything criminal (killing a person by accident isnt a crime right?), i just happen to travel and meet places, my only problem is being honest :)
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why do you think im a sort of druglord? im a honest man, very honest and ive never been involved in anything criminal (killing a person by accident isnt a crime right?), i just happen to travel and meet places, my only problem is being honest :)
"Honesty" has been known to kill people, nugga. ;)
DIV
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"Honesty" has been known to kill people, nugga. ;)
DIV
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benz I never knew you were so powerful
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benz I never knew you were so powerful
It's always the low key guys who dominate the game.
DIV
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benz I never knew you were so powerful
You see div? thanks for making me appear like a bolivian drug lord carrying roids all over the andes :(
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But you are right?
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abc what kind of cell are you posting from? Also I think I saw a picture of benz on the board somewhere before I think G and O he is the real deal, south american brother.
jt
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I just wrote another post, probably my first in at least 18 months or more. Here's why.
I got 'ratted out'. Set up. By my "BRO". Controlled buy. Only sold the guy 3 Bottles. 2 Tren A. 1 Test C.
4 months after the transaction, I get approached by the local "drug task force" out of nowhere in the parking lot of my gym before a workout. They take me to the station, question me, try to get me to tell them about my suppliers, can I get other drugs, etc. I was 22 years old with an 18 month old daughter. Working 50+ hours weekly managing a supplement store. Some of you here may know this story. They scared the shit out of me. I thought about spilling my guts and trying to get myself off. I almost did it.
Instead, I said NOTHING. I simply gave them all my gear, which was a sizeable amount. They told me if I gave up 3 people, only 3 people, they would knock my B as in Boy Dealing felonies down to D as in Dog Possession felonies. I ended up with the B as in Boys.
In my state, B felonies carry a minimum 6-20 years in the state penitentery. I was charged with 3 B Felonies, 1 D felony and 1 A misdemeanor in 2 seperate counties. One awesome footnote is that 2 of the B felonies, of which all 3 were all Dealing in a Schedule II Controlled Substance, were because the guy bought 2 kinds of gear, test and tren. The guy only bought the test because when he originally called me to buy some tren only, I told him he should probably add some test to be safe and make sure everything keeps working right throughout his cycle. Nice, huh? The other was because I admitted during my taped interview that most of my transactions took place in a county besides the county the controlled buy took place in. Stupid on my part. All were state charges, nothing federal. I was small time. Prior to this bullshit my only brush with the law was a DUI when I was 19.
After posting bail in 1 county and a period in jail in the other county where my bail was $100000 CASH and I would be in that jail FOREVER(they ended up ORing me, to my complete surprise), I plead guilty to 2 B Felonies. All punishment included, I ended up spending about 2 months in 2 different county jails. I was sentenced to 10 years DOC, 8 suspended, 2 executed, both in community corrections. That was to be followed by 2 years of probation. I've already served 6 months work release time and am another 6 months+ into an 18 month home detention sentence. After paying my lawyer, bail, community corrections, probation, and various other fees, this will end up costing me north of $20000.
I recently had to declare bankruptcy. Chapter 7. I was fired from the supplement store(NOT GNC) I'd worked at and LOVED for over 2 years and several of my VERY close friends DISAPPEARED from my life. I was evicted from my apartment, along with my girlfriend and daughter. Right now, unfortunatly, my daughter and I live at home with my parents. Rough after being on my own so long, but super nice of them to let us stay here. I have a sales job that I like alot, though not as much as I liked sports nutrition. I have been there for a while now and everybody I work with knows my situation. The only thing I am worried about at work is the wind blowing my pant leg the wrong way and a customer seeing my Goddamn ankle bracelet. Other than that, work is cool with me having weekly schedule meetings and random drug tests and shit. Not to mention the multiple high-level felonies on my record.
ANYWAY, my point after all this is, no matter what, DON'T SAY SHIT!!! It is NEVER as bad as they say. My situation is FUCKED UP for sure, but the Goddamn police were telling me the day they picked me up how I wouldn't get to see my daughter grow up and I need to do this and that to save my own ass from my own mistake! I should have been more careful, BOTTOM LINE. I deal with my shit. PERIOD. Felonies suck, but snitching NEVER GOES AWAY. I still talk to the guys I was closest with at the time, who know who they are and who I am and have RESPECT for how things ended up. I hold my head high. I am nowhere near perfect in any way, but I am proud of how I approached and am trying to overcome what I consider one of the MAJOR hurdles of my life.
To everyone on here talking about gear like it is any other rec drug, FUCK THAT and FUCK YOU. Wrong answer, pal. Gear is a completely different situation. Some joke who only cares about where his next high comes from will say ANYTHING to stay out jail. Very different from a guy who is scared about what could happen to his own skin if he doesn't throw his bros under the bus. Not to mention that a small time weed/coke/crack/meth/whatever dealer makes 100 times the money a small time source does. Think about what you are saying and compare apples to apples here.
To anyone who took the time to read through this, thanks.
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took the time to read..... thanks for that share.
on that note, this thread would be nice to become anyone given experiences on their dealings with the law...
ex. how they monitor orders, hush/cyber rights mail loopholes, previous bust, ways to stay safe, things to look out for, just basically exposing ways that this community is tracked... The best way to keep safe is too keep are enemies closer.... shit if they know that we know would hurt but can save some folks.... just a thought.
i don't like this whole snitch thread..// just some bad mojo for the board....
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This is a good thread, maybe the topic might not sound good, but it is a honest thread, about real stuff, stuff many guys don't like to talk about cause they will look bad if they say they would snitch if they were looking @ hard jail time. If we talk about it in the open, it can keep us more informed and safer if something does happen.
jt
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This is a good thread, maybe the topic might not sound good, but it is a honest thread, about real stuff, stuff many guys don't like to talk about cause they will look bad if they say they would snitch if they were looking @ hard jail time. If we talk about it in the open, it can keep us more informed and safer if something does happen.
jt
i think we both want the same thing, it just the going back and fourth of your a less of a man or not, and if some fucking golding ticket is in front of you that says freedom, will you take it.... who know, i don't know. its only the ones that have been their is of my concern. what does every newbie get told when a post is lame... do your research, what kind of question is that, you know thats the things this board has become. Everyone with tats and a tapout Bennie is a cagefighter, every gym rat putting 1500 Mg's of test is a bodybuilder... IMO experience is what make you those things, so tribal elders its time to pick up the game, cause the game is not favoring for our victory.. just my two cent
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I had a good friend that was set up in a controlled buy for ONE bottle of Test - by a **friend** of ours that got into trouble for dealing coke. It was his second felony for dealing so he was looking at more than just a few months and probabtion, but he not snitch. He did his time.
The guy that set him up also set up a few of my other friends. Two of them got 8 and 11 years, but did not snitch. The guy that got 8 years had a kid, but knew he would die for sure if he snitched.
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I wonder how many of you, "roids experts" have been in jail, i wonder how many of you "roids experts" have exchanged info with our resident piece of shit "expert" candi"dizzle"?
You all, including my fellow mods & friends, are nothing but a bunch of idiots for having a kid & threat like dizzle, allowed here.
Ive been to the the place where it all happens, how about you all warriors? Do you all think you are "secure" enough by just using a proxy? hahha idiots
thats it!
Like Div said it's up to Ron to ban people - if people are stupid enough to be selling/trading here that's their business/problem. I get asked daily for sources - especially by guys with 0 or 1 posts who've registered a couple days before PMing me & they get the same answer "I don't give out sources". In fact I've got no plans to use in the future. Please explain to me how I'm in danger because he posts here? Please note I've been clean for a year & there's nothing illegal in my house.
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not braggin but im the only one ever been to a factory in china and im no expert (but sure our resident candi narq can answer some questions?)
respect to steveray!
Clarify this please.
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4 months after the transaction, I get approached by the local "drug task force" out of nowhere in the parking lot of my gym before a workout. They take me to the station, question me, try to get me to tell them about my suppliers, can I get other drugs, etc.
Thanks for the "real" post, Rose.....
A few questions.....
Did they arrest you out in the parking lot or just "scare" you in to going with them?
You realize you didn't have to go with them or say anything unless they were arresting you, correct?
Why didn't you just exercise your 5th Amendment rights? ???
DIV
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rimbaud benz is making shit up again. none of thats true.
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rimbaud benz is making shit up again. none of thats true.
You are right, i dont think you are a narq but im sure man your big mouth is dangerous, especially now that you are pretty exposed.
You told somebody else the dea checks this site, if so, watch your mouth for once.
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its not so much my big mouth but my "big reputation" which doesnt exist without guys like you making threads about every little thng i say on the G&o al damn day
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its not so much my big mouth but my "big reputation" which doesnt exist without guys like you making threads about every little thng i say on the G&o al damn day
If you check the # of threads i have started about you, they are probably no more than 20, i have 3k+ posts..you built your own reputation here, your picture on the motorcycle is all over the board (even before i signed up here)..so you really cant blame me for it
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Thanks for the "real" post, Rose.....
A few questions.....
Did they arrest you out in the parking lot or just "scare" you in to going with them?
You realize you didn't have to go with them or say anything unless they were arresting you, correct?
Why didn't you just exercise your 5th Amendment rights? ???
DIV
They did arrest me at that time. They approached me as I got out of my car, two of them, one in pure street clothes and the other in mostly street clothes with a "police" vest over them. This was in the parking lot of my gym about 9 o'clock at night at the end of February. I trained at a big, 24-hr Fitness kind of place, and they were in unmarked, seized vehicles, so nobody paid any attention. I found out they drove seized cars when they drove me to the station in a Nissan Murano with leather and asked where they got the money to pay for it on a cop's salary. He said it was a seizure and then said he wished I was selling coke so he could seize my car and money and everything.
After I closed the door to my car and turned around, they asked me my name, as in "Are you so and so (first and last)?" I said yes. They asked my birthdate, as in "Is your birthday such and such date?" I said yes. The guy then said, and I remember it almost word for word, "You're under arrest. We know about the steroids. If you resist, we'll hit you with 50,000 volts. Do you have any needles in the car?" Hit me like a ton of bricks out of nowhere.
We went straight from there to the police station and into the interrogation room. I have a DVD of my interrogation from my discovery. Straight from the police station to jail. That ride was in a regular car with a uniformed officer. The rest has already been said.
The only reason I got off light is because I was young with very minimal criminal history. Also, because these were my first felony charges, my sentence was suspendable. If I had had felony convictions prior, who knows what could have happened...
This story is 100% real. I would not make this shit up, nor would I want to go to the trouble to type someone else's experiences. What makes you think otherwise?
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They did arrest me at that time. They approached me as I got out of my car, two of them, one in pure street clothes and the other in mostly street clothes with a "police" vest over them. This was in the parking lot of my gym about 9 o'clock at night at the end of February. I trained at a big, 24-hr Fitness kind of place, and they were in unmarked, seized vehicles, so nobody paid any attention. I found out they drove seized cars when they drove me to the station in a Nissan Murano with leather and asked where they got the money to pay for it on a cop's salary.
After I closed the door to my car and turned around, they asked me my name, as in "Are you so and so (first and last)?" I said yes. They asked my birthdate, as in "Is your birthday such and such date?" I said yes. The guy then said, and I remember it almost word for word, "You're under arrest. We know about the steroids. If you resist, we'll hit you with 50,000 volts. Do you have any needles in the car?" Hit me like a ton of bricks out of nowhere.
We went straight from there to the police station and into the interrogation room. I have a DVD of my interrogation from my discovery. Straight from the police station to jail. That ride was in a regular car with a uniformed officer. The rest has already been said.
The only reason I got off light is because I was young with very minimal criminal history. Also, because these were my first felony charges, my sentence was suspendable. If I had had felony convictions prior, who knows what could have happened...
This story is 100% real. I would not make this shit up, nor would I want to go to the trouble to type someone else's experiences. What makes you think otherwise?
I believe in your story, but i dont believe you didnt rat out anybody, especially if you are in usa :)
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Wow that is a very exciting story, thanks for sharing with us. I wonder what they would say if you said you were someone else and said you had no ID? They prolly still woulda taken you, too bad you didn't have a gun with you to pull real quick and shot both those pigs in the head.
jt
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I believe in your story, but i dont believe you didnt rat out anybody, especially if you are in usa :)
I doubt he ratted on anyone. He probably just made a deal to avoid a trial - which is what it it's all about. Getting someone to confess & then avoid an expensive trial.
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Good post Rim, trail is a very big pain in the ass, why not just confess and get on with shit, big deal if you have something on your record. Employers now are given special perks to hire ex cons.
jt
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They did arrest me at that time. They approached me as I got out of my car, two of them, one in pure street clothes and the other in mostly street clothes with a "police" vest over them. This was in the parking lot of my gym about 9 o'clock at night at the end of February. I trained at a big, 24-hr Fitness kind of place, and they were in unmarked, seized vehicles, so nobody paid any attention. I found out they drove seized cars when they drove me to the station in a Nissan Murano with leather and asked where they got the money to pay for it on a cop's salary. He said it was a seizure and then said he wished I was selling coke so he could seize my car and money and everything.
After I closed the door to my car and turned around, they asked me my name, as in "Are you so and so (first and last)?" I said yes. They asked my birthdate, as in "Is your birthday such and such date?" I said yes. The guy then said, and I remember it almost word for word, "You're under arrest. We know about the steroids. If you resist, we'll hit you with 50,000 volts. Do you have any needles in the car?" Hit me like a ton of bricks out of nowhere.
We went straight from there to the police station and into the interrogation room. I have a DVD of my interrogation from my discovery. Straight from the police station to jail. That ride was in a regular car with a uniformed officer. The rest has already been said.
The only reason I got off light is because I was young with very minimal criminal history. Also, because these were my first felony charges, my sentence was suspendable. If I had had felony convictions prior, who knows what could have happened...
This story is 100% real. I would not make this shit up, nor would I want to go to the trouble to type someone else's experiences. What makes you think otherwise?
I'm not doubting, Rose..........just needed clarification.
Cops are dirty by nature.
I'm happy that you got off rather easily.
Could have been worse.
DIV
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I'm not doubting, Rose..........just needed clarification.
Cops are dirty by nature.
I'm happy that you got off rather easily.
Could have been worse.
DIV
Why do you say that, maybe most cops you have come into communication with have not been the best officers, but by no means are most policemen dirty.
jt
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Why do you say that, maybe most cops you have come into communication with have not been the best officers, but by no means are most policemen dirty.
jt
young jtsunami,
Any job in which one of your primary duties is to collect information that leads to putting people behind bars is dirty.
It ceases becoming about doing what is "right" and simply trying to put people behind bars whether they are guilty or not.
The ways detectives work is through circumstantial evidence, trying to make the pieces fit together or forcing them to fit in many cases.
I think many cops look at it simply as a job and they don't care whose lives they ruin or what the consequences of their actions are.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=riboisae0JY&feature=related
DIV
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I'm not doubting, Rose..........just needed clarification.
Cops are dirty by nature.
I'm happy that you got off rather easily.
Could have been worse.
DIV
Thanks for reading my post in the first place, DIV. I respect your opinion. I appreciate the well wishes. And you are right. Every time I start to think that this house arrest sucks and how it's super expensive I stop and realize that I could be in capital "P" Prison right now instead of working, making money, eating what I want and playing Xbox. Not to mention spending time with my daughter. I was very lucky. And I had a good attorney.
In regards to what Rim said, yes, I did sign plea deals in both counties. One prosecutor dropped one B felony if I plead guilty to the other B felony, and the other county made me plea guilty to another B felony and agreed to drop the D felony and A misdemeanor.
About cops being dirty, I think that is true to an extent. Some more than others. Narcs and those kind are the worst. But also I think that you should really look in the direction of the prosecutor's office for a dirty job. WOW. I hate the prosecutors more than almost anyone else involved in my case. They were huge dicks up to and including during my sentencing hearing when they tried to take my driver's license away for 6 months on top of everything else. This was after I had found my new job that they knew was about 45min away from my house. I had to bite my tongue a few times when dealing with the deputy prosecutor.
Again, I appreciate you guys taking the time to read my story. Hopefully it can answer some questions or keep somebody from being careless like I was. Thanks.
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Man that girl from that youtube clip appears to be on crack or something, she needed to be locked up, I don't know about strip searched but at least let her detox a little before going into public agian jeez what a crackhead, and she was resisting. I really do think cops are good most of them, they get into the job to do well not to do bad.
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About cops being dirty, I think that is true to an extent. Some more than others. Narcs and those kind are the worst. But also I think that you should really look in the direction of the prosecutor's office for a dirty job. WOW. I hate the prosecutors more than almost anyone else involved in my case. They were huge dicks up to and including during my sentencing hearing when they tried to take my driver's license away for 6 months on top of everything else. This was after I had found my new job that they knew was about 45min away from my house. I had to bite my tongue a few times when dealing with the deputy prosecutor.
I would like to hear some cases were prosecutors have been beaten sensless in a parking lot or some hardcore shit put on them.
jt
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Actually I would like to cut out some of these pieces of shits prosecutors tounges out, then they wouldn't be able to prosecute another day, fuckin pigs.
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Thanks for reading my post in the first place, DIV. I respect your opinion. I appreciate the well wishes. And you are right. Every time I start to think that this house arrest sucks and how it's super expensive I stop and realize that I could be in capital "P" Prison right now instead of working, making money, eating what I want and playing Xbox. Not to mention spending time with my daughter. I was very lucky. And I had a good attorney.
In regards to what Rim said, yes, I did sign plea deals in both counties. One prosecutor dropped one B felony if I plead guilty to the other B felony, and the other county made me plea guilty to another B felony and agreed to drop the D felony and A misdemeanor.
About cops being dirty, I think that is true to an extent. Some more than others. Narcs and those kind are the worst. But also I think that you should really look in the direction of the prosecutor's office for a dirty job. WOW. I hate the prosecutors more than almost anyone else involved in my case. They were huge dicks up to and including during my sentencing hearing when they tried to take my driver's license away for 6 months on top of everything else. This was after I had found my new job that they knew was about 45min away from my house. I had to bite my tongue a few times when dealing with the deputy prosecutor.
Again, I appreciate you guys taking the time to read my story. Hopefully it can answer some questions or keep somebody from being careless like I was. Thanks.
Rose,
I was talking more about the Narcs, but I have a general distrust of cops and that's a good thing.
Dealing with someone who's job is to prosecute people is dicey and not something to take lightly.
I wouldn't have signed any plea deals.
I would have forced them to do their jobs, denied everything and let them try and prove guilt.
Much of the time, these guys have nothing but circumstantial evidence and that is not enough in a court of law for a conviction.
Did you ever find the "friend" who ratted you out to the cops?
You should have showed him some love.
DIV
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young jtsunami,
Any job in which one of your primary duties is to collect information that leads to putting people behind bars is dirty.
It ceases becoming about doing what is "right" and simply trying to put people behind bars whether they are guilty or not.
The ways detectives work is through circumstantial evidence, trying to make the pieces fit together or forcing them to fit in many cases.
I think many cops look at it simply as a job and they don't care whose lives they ruin or what the consequences of their actions are.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=riboisae0JY&feature=related
DIV
Yeah all cops are assholes... until you or someone you love needs one.
Most people are dickheads. I don't perceive a higher incidence of dickheadedness in the police force. About the same.
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Getbig has a rat here its name is NICO he hates juicers and juice. Biggest rat ever
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Getbig has a rat here its name is NICO he hates juicers and juice. Biggest rat ever
lol i thought you were going to say me, i just like to play devils advocate tbo.
jt
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I know of your situation, JH told me about it. Everything your saying is close to what happens. It was not scary til they say you will never see your kids again. I thought I was the only one who had to go thru this bs. Much respect
Also if it is ok with a mod. I will indirrecty post how to stay safe and if caught what to do. I want to get about 3 peoples stories. I'm now bankrupt, kids finally returned 10 months later, seized vehicles, guns, computers, I'm now on $500,000 bond w charges, wife $100,000 bond no charges (scare tactic) and now $65,000 in attorneys.
When will this Fing nightmaire end?
They did arrest me at that time. They approached me as I got out of my car, two of them, one in pure street clothes and the other in mostly street clothes with a "police" vest over them. This was in the parking lot of my gym about 9 o'clock at night at the end of February. I trained at a big, 24-hr Fitness kind of place, and they were in unmarked, seized vehicles, so nobody paid any attention. I found out they drove seized cars when they drove me to the station in a Nissan Murano with leather and asked where they got the money to pay for it on a cop's salary. He said it was a seizure and then said he wished I was selling coke so he could seize my car and money and everything.
After I closed the door to my car and turned around, they asked me my name, as in "Are you so and so (first and last)?" I said yes. They asked my birthdate, as in "Is your birthday such and such date?" I said yes. The guy then said, and I remember it almost word for word, "You're under arrest. We know about the steroids. If you resist, we'll hit you with 50,000 volts. Do you have any needles in the car?" Hit me like a ton of bricks out of nowhere.
We went straight from there to the police station and into the interrogation room. I have a DVD of my interrogation from my discovery. Straight from the police station to jail. That ride was in a regular car with a uniformed officer. The rest has already been said.
The only reason I got off light is because I was young with very minimal criminal history. Also, because these were my first felony charges, my sentence was suspendable. If I had had felony convictions prior, who knows what could have happened...
This story is 100% real. I would not make this shit up, nor would I want to go to the trouble to type someone else's experiences. What makes you think otherwise?