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Title: Question for religious people...
Post by: Hedgehog on January 01, 2009, 01:49:21 PM
How can you know that your faith is the right one.

Gimme a solid argument why Hinduists aren't right?
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: big L dawg on January 01, 2009, 01:58:32 PM
they don't know.they just believe.and the one's that claim to know are false Profits.believing and knowing are two different things.One's just a little crazier than the other.
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: tonymctones on January 03, 2009, 09:48:34 AM
ive asked my friends that for some time, if you where born in the middle east you would probably muslim. I havent researched all religions the same I will say though that I am Christian by choice. I lost my faith some years back due to personal circumstance but made a concious decison to go back to Christianity. I guess you cant know 100% but then again atheist cant prove God doesnt exist 100% either so the same could be asked of you?
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: ATHEIST on January 03, 2009, 12:39:02 PM
ive said all along that what religion you are is mainly determined by what region you were raised
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: Hedgehog on January 03, 2009, 08:05:39 PM
ive asked my friends that for some time, if you where born in the middle east you would probably muslim. I havent researched all religions the same I will say though that I am Christian by choice. I lost my faith some years back due to personal circumstance but made a concious decison to go back to Christianity. I guess you cant know 100% but then again atheist cant prove God doesnt exist 100% either so the same could be asked of you?

Nice post.
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: wavelength on January 03, 2009, 08:14:26 PM
How can you know that your faith is the right one.
Gimme a solid argument why Hinduists aren't right?

If one accepts that there are in fact other valid religions, the only logic conclusion is that the core truth must be the same in all of them.
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: big L dawg on January 04, 2009, 03:47:33 AM
If one accepts that there are in fact other valid religions, the only logic conclusion is that the core truth must be the same in all of them.

or the core lie is the same in all of them.
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: wavelength on January 04, 2009, 04:05:19 AM
or the core lie is the same in all of them.

that's also possible of course
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: webcake on January 04, 2009, 04:18:09 AM
Instead of being religious i just love people... :)
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: wavelength on January 04, 2009, 04:39:25 AM
Instead of being religious i just love people... :)

Same thing my friend, in the end there's only love! Spread it webcke!
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: webcake on January 04, 2009, 05:04:27 AM
Same thing my friend, in the end there's only love! Spread it webcke!

I will, friend!!

I will!!

Spread the message!!

Spread the love!!

Team love!!
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: Bluto on January 04, 2009, 10:09:40 AM
How can you know getbig is the right board?
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: Butterbean on January 13, 2009, 07:47:02 AM
How can you know that your faith is the right one.



This is a good question.

My main answer would probably have to do w/prophecy....including how Jesus' birth, life and death fulfilled prophecy and how some prophecies that have not yet come to pass can be seen imo as set to happen (ie: mark of the beast, one world currency etc.)

In addition some people say "they know that they know that they know." 

These scriptures may not make sense to an unbeliever but:

1 John 2:20
But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.

1 Corinthians 1:18
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.






Gimme a solid argument why Hinduists aren't right?

It may not be a solid argument for you but personally one reason I reject Hinduism because they accept worshipping of idols.

(from http://hinduism.about.com)
"Hinduism believes in idol worship"
"Hindus also worship spirits, trees, animals and even planets."

Also from the same site:
"All human beings are divine"

I reject this as well.




Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: Dr Loomis on January 16, 2009, 07:14:32 AM
How can you know that your faith is the right one.

You can't know, it's faith.
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: big L dawg on January 16, 2009, 07:44:47 AM
You can't know, it's faith.

and faith is the great cop out that allows people to not have to think for themselves.
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: Government_Controlled on March 02, 2009, 11:10:33 AM
It has to conform to the Bible. Jesus gave insight on how to identify it. Also, his people would as a group, not necessarily individually, adhere to His Father's standards, laws, and principles. There are quite a number of ways to "know" if your faith is the "right" one.  ;) :)



GC/DEA_AGENT
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: big L dawg on March 02, 2009, 12:18:59 PM
It has to conform to the Bible. Jesus gave insight on how to identify it. Also, his people would as a group, not necessarily individually, adhere to His Father's standards, laws, and principles. There are quite a number of ways to "know" if your faith is the "right" one.  ;) :)



GC/DEA_AGENT

would ya quit with the winking already.were already aware of the fact most bible beaters are closet homosexuals
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: Deicide on March 03, 2009, 02:36:01 AM
Funny thing is, if Stella had been born in India she would be going on about Shiva, Kali and all their 'prophecies'...
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: Butterbean on March 03, 2009, 06:47:25 AM
Funny thing is, if Stella had been born in India she would be going on about Shiva, Kali and all their 'prophecies'...

How do you know these things about me?  Amazing!! :o






 ;D
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: Deicide on March 03, 2009, 07:32:17 AM
How do you know these things about me?  Amazing!! :o






 ;D

It's is a relatively factual thing. If you are indoctrinated into something from an early age you are likely to carry it with you your whole life. If you had been born in Saudi Arabia, do you deny the 99% likelihood that you would be a Muslim?
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: Butterbean on March 03, 2009, 09:12:31 AM

It's is a relatively factual thing. If you are indoctrinated into something from an early age you are likely to carry it with you your whole life. If you had been born in Saudi Arabia, do you deny the 99% likelihood that you would be a Muslim?


If I had been born and raised in Saudi Arabia, I think the chances that I would be Muslim could possibly be high, since I wouldn't legally be allowed to learn about the good qualities of of other belief systems.

But don't fool yourself, there are Christians in Saudi Arabia but it's not in their best interest to be open about it.







Funny thing is, if Stella had been born in India she would be going on about Shiva, Kali and all their 'prophecies'...
 

I'm curious as to how can you state this as a fact  ???
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: Deicide on March 03, 2009, 09:55:18 AM


If I had been born and raised in Saudi Arabia, I think the chances that I would be Muslim could possibly be high, since I wouldn't legally be allowed to learn about the good qualities of of other belief systems.
But don't fool yourself, there are Christians in Saudi Arabia but it's not in their best interest to be open about it.






 

I'm curious as to how can you state this as a fact  ???


Stella you don't know about other religions as it is, what difference would that make?
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: tonymctones on March 03, 2009, 10:00:13 AM
and faith is the great cop out that allows people to not have to think for themselves.
totally agree with this although everybody doesnt see it like that, i have a number of religious friends that when stumped say something like you just have to have faith. Faith is fine everybody needs faith but it shouldnt stop you from questioning things in my opinion.
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: Government_Controlled on March 03, 2009, 10:43:42 AM
Faith is fine everybody needs faith but it shouldnt stop you from questioning things in my opinion.


I did. My research, which was extensive, led to my belief. I couldn't invalidate the Bible. I tried *LOL*, however, to my surprise, I failed.

If you are a reasonable person, and not looking for excuses, yet are open minded, you will see the evidence to base this faith on.

I'm not sure where most of these religions get "blind faith" as a teaching, it's definitely not taught in the Bible.


GC/DEA_AGENT
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: Joel_A on March 03, 2009, 11:06:17 AM

I did. My research, which was extensive, led to my belief. I couldn't invalidate the Bible. I tried *LOL*, however, to my surprise, I failed.

If you are a reasonable person, and not looking for excuses, yet are open minded, you will see the evidence to base this faith on.

I'm not sure where most of these religions get "blind faith" as a teaching, it's definitely not taught in the Bible.


GC/DEA_AGENT

I believe that Methuselah was really 969 years old, the bible said so.
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: tonymctones on March 03, 2009, 12:30:39 PM

I did. My research, which was extensive, led to my belief. I couldn't invalidate the Bible. I tried *LOL*, however, to my surprise, I failed.

If you are a reasonable person, and not looking for excuses, yet are open minded, you will see the evidence to base this faith on.

I'm not sure where most of these religions get "blind faith" as a teaching, it's definitely not taught in the Bible.


GC/DEA_AGENT
Thats fine if youve questioned things that give cause for questioning and find reasons to believe one way or the other then imh thats fine. Its the ppl that have never questioned things that give cause to question simply b/c their religion says one thing. Honestly I think if anything questioning things actually strengthens your faith it doesnt diminish it
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: Deicide on March 03, 2009, 12:45:50 PM

I did. My research, which was extensive on a first grade level, led to my belief. I couldn't invalidate the Bible. I tried *LOL*, however, to my no one's surprise, I failed.

If you are a reasonable a stupid person, and not looking for excuses, yet are open close minded, you will see the evidence to base this faith on.

I'm not sure where most of these religions get "blind faith" as a teaching, it's definitely not taught in the Bible.


GC/DEA_AGENT

Multiple fixes.
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: Government_Controlled on March 04, 2009, 04:30:52 AM
I did. My research, which was extensive and on a first grade level, led to my belief. I couldn't invalidate the Bible. I tried *LOL*, however, to my no one's surprise, I failed.

If you are a reasonable a stupid person, and not looking for excuses, yet are open close minded, you will see the evidence to base this faith on.

I'm not sure where most of these religions get "blind faith" as a teaching, it's definitely not taught in the Bible.


Multiple fixes.


Fixed!  ;D




GC/DEA_AGENT
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: Government_Controlled on March 04, 2009, 04:45:49 AM
Honestly I think if anything questioning things actually strengthens your faith it doesnt diminish it


Good attitude! Are you familiar with the people of Beroea?



GC/DEA_AGENT
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: fitt@40 on March 08, 2009, 12:48:56 PM
ive said all along that what religion you are is mainly determined by what region you were raised

There is a lot of truth to what you state.  However, how do you account for the Christians throughout the world?  I do understand that one is more likely to be a Muslin if he or she was born in the Middle East.  But I say this.....and this is going to piss some folks off...that countries in the Middle East are no more Muslin than America is Christian.  That's not to say that there are no devout Muslin in the Middle East or devout Christians in America.  What I'm saying is the countries themselves (the leadership) do not practice what they preach.  We like to say, and most believe, that America was built on Christian principles.  That's simply not the case. 

I've had the chance to spend a little time in some Middle Eastern countries.  There are places with strict rules that are based on their beliefs.  I remember a male colleague who was apprehended by the police for hugging a female in a car.  At the same time, there are places for prostitution and other sinful (by their standards) acts. 

Sorry for getting long-winded, but I just firmly believe that where you come typically teaches a man's rituals.  It is only when a person seeks a personal relationship with God that learning begins.   
Title: Re: Question for religious people...
Post by: Butterbean on March 10, 2009, 07:04:32 AM
There is a lot of truth to what you state.  However, how do you account for the Christians throughout the world?  I do understand that one is more likely to be a Muslin if he or she was born in the Middle East.  But I say this.....and this is going to piss some folks off...that countries in the Middle East are no more Muslin than America is Christian.  That's not to say that there are no devout Muslin in the Middle East or devout Christians in America.  What I'm saying is the countries themselves (the leadership) do not practice what they preach.  We like to say, and most believe, that America was built on Christian principles.  That's simply not the case. 

I've had the chance to spend a little time in some Middle Eastern countries.  There are places with strict rules that are based on their beliefs.  I remember a male colleague who was apprehended by the police for hugging a female in a car.  At the same time, there are places for prostitution and other sinful (by their standards) acts. 

Sorry for getting long-winded, but I just firmly believe that where you come typically teaches a man's rituals.  It is only when a person seeks a personal relationship with God that learning begins.   

Really good points here!