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Brian Cushing the linebacker from USC chosen in the first round was 160 pound freshman. 3 years later he's in the 240 range. Natural or not? He's a linebacker so he's not some fat schlub but is fit. I was reading how some sports writers are indirectly calling him out on being on something. What do you guys think?
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Brian Cushing the linebacker from USC chosen in the first round was 160 pound freshman. 3 years later he's in the 240 range. Natural or not? He's a linebacker so he's not some fat schlub but is fit. I was reading how some sports writers are indirectly calling him out on being on something. What do you guys think?
LMAO! No he's not on anything. It's perfectly natural even with supergenetics to put on 80lbs in 3 years. Happens all the time.
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Brian Cushing the linebacker from USC chosen in the first round was 160 pound freshman. 3 years later he's in the 240 range. Natural or not? He's a linebacker so he's not some fat schlub but is fit. I was reading how some sports writers are indirectly calling him out on being on something. What do you guys think?
I put on over 40 lbs training for just 2 years and wasn't using shit and have crap genetics when it comes to building muscle.
Even if he did take a little drop of medicine, the majority of his growth was due to an improved training and nutrition regimen as well as his maturing into his body.
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I put on over 40 lbs training for just 2 years and wasn't using shit and have crap genetics when it comes to building muscle.
Even if he did take a little drop of medicine, the majority of his growth was due to an improved training and nutrition regimen as well as his maturing into his body.
sorry Tre but there is no way you gained 40 pounds of muscle in 2 years LOL ;D
more like 15 pounds of muscle and 25 pounds of fat lol
where is quakeroats when you need him :-\
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I put on over 40 lbs training for just 2 years and wasn't using shit and have crap genetics when it comes to building muscle.
Even if he did take a little drop of medicine, the majority of his growth was due to an improved training and nutrition regimen as well as his maturing into his body.
That's the thing from 18-21 you're a testosterone fucking spark-plug. Years later you start going downhill.
The best years for growth for sure, Cushing had access to the right diet, world class trainers, facilities, dieticians etc... everything you'd ever need. Fucking USC labs probably brewing up shit we haven't heard of yet either.
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Imagine if he was using something! ;D ::)
120lbs??
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I put on over 40 lbs training for just 2 years and wasn't using shit and have crap genetics when it comes to building muscle.
Even if he did take a little drop of medicine, the majority of his growth was due to an improved training and nutrition regimen as well as his maturing into his body.
Oh please. STFU moron!
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Didn't Cushing fail a test? He had mad gyno in HS and was already a workout fanatic when he got to SC. Juiced to the gills.
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Guess we'll find out in a few years like we did with Brian Bosworth. Remember him being flattened by Bo Jackson?
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Imagine if he was using something! ;D ::)
120lbs??
I have a friend who's on a grant at a local university working on muscle atrophy drugs etc... For fun he created HGH. He wouldn't use it or share it because of losing his grant (fucking ethics) but they are always trying to create new drugs for muscle growth. Who knows what these guinea pigs athletes get from their schools
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That's the thing from 18-21 you're a testosterone fucking spark-plug. Years later you start going downhill.
The best years for growth for sure, Cushing had access to the right diet, world class trainers, facilities, dieticians etc... everything you'd ever need. Fucking USC labs probably brewing up shit we haven't heard of yet either.
Dude how old are you? You sound like a fucking naive teenager. First off I don't know where you got 80lbs from. Because Cushing hardly looks like he gained 80lbs. So that part is bullshit. Secondly, do you have a clue what an androgen is? You act like teenage males have supraphysiological doses of testosterone. Yes they have higher levels but they are not supraphysiological. They don't turn into the fucking Hulk overnight. Also androgens are resonsible mainly for secondary sex characteristics and not only muscle growth hence puberty. Cushing may very well have achieved those gains naturally but no way in hell he gained 80lbs in 3 years. Some of you have no clue the kind of numbers you throw around. Or whoever started the 80lb gain rumor.
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Oh please. STFU moron!
Tit's even a high school girl would be jealous of.
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I put on over 40 lbs training for just 2 years and wasn't using shit and have crap genetics when it comes to building muscle.
Even if he did take a little drop of medicine, the majority of his growth was due to an improved training and nutrition regimen as well as his maturing into his body.
40 lbs of muscle in 2 years ?
hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha
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I have a friend who's on a grant at a local university working on muscle atrophy drugs etc... For fun he created HGH. He wouldn't use it or share it because of losing his grant (fucking ethics) but they are always trying to create new drugs for muscle growth. Who knows what these guinea pigs athletes get from their schools
Dude do you even know anything about college athletics? You honestly think USC as a higher learning institution would be providing breakthrough performance enhancement technology to their football players? Dude that is the fucking stupidest shit I've ever heard. Their football program would die overnight if the media and general public got wind of something like that. They'd never risk something so stupid. Are you seriously 12 years old?
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all drugs
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40 lbs of muscle in 2 years ?
hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha
Plus he has shitty genetics? LMAO! I might have my beef with you Sev but atleast you keep it fucking real when it comes to this type of bulllshit.
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Plus he has shitty genetics? LMAO! I might have my beef with you Sev but atleast you keep it fucking real when it comes to this type of bulllshit.
only people who never lifted seriously and experimented with hormones come up w/ this crap
I never argue with serious competitors / lifters
only w/ retards who never tried it themselves
like the 300 kg deadlift
how many people HELD let alone deadlift 300 kg ?????
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I put on over 40 lbs training for just 2 years and wasn't using shit and have crap genetics when it comes to building muscle.
Even if he did take a little drop of medicine, the majority of his growth was due to an improved training and nutrition regimen as well as his maturing into his body.
I don't buy it Tre. I couldn't put on 20lbs of muscle in 5 years of training, so you must be lying!
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Gotta love the getbig mentality...if I couldn't do it, there's NO way you could..haha
People need to understand, your first year of training, putting on 20lbs of muscle is ENTIRELY possible without drugs. The fact is, most people don't have the diet to support their workouts. They workout consistently, but FAIL when it comes to diet.
After the initial big gain in muscle, 5lbs of muscle a year is impressive...naturally.
Once again, most people have zero faith in their own ability or have the heart to diet hard for a year or two. No less 5 years, etc.
Whether or not Cushing is on gear or not, who cares. I will say, at least athletes have a reason to take drugs....lots of money. Unlike your typical gym rat, who takes gear to "compete". haha, what a sad excuse to use drugs. Fact is, most just can't hack it on their own....period. ;) then use competing as a reason for their drug use, when really, there is none.
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I don't buy it Tre. I couldn't put on 20lbs of muscle in 5 years of training, so you must be lying!
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Gotta love the getbig mentality...if I couldn't do it, there's NO way you could..haha
People need to understand, your first year of training, putting on 20lbs of muscle is ENTIRELY possible without drugs. The fact is, most people don't have the diet to support their workouts. They workout consistently, but FAIL when it comes to diet.
After the initial big gain in muscle, 5lbs of muscle a year is impressive...naturally.
Once again, most people have zero faith in their own ability or have the heart to diet hard for a year or two. No less 5 years, etc.
Whether or not Cushing is on gear or not, who cares. I will say, at least athletes have a reason to take drugs....lots of money. Unlike your typical gym rat, who takes gear to "compete". haha, what a sad excuse to use drugs. Fact is, most just can't hack it on their own....period. ;) then use competing as a reason for their drug use, when really, there is none.
::) Just shut up. 40lbs of muscle is not the same thing as 40lbs of fat, water, and muscle. Sure most guys can gain as much weight as they can stuff food in their mouth. But when that muscle is lean and vascular it ain't natural. Cushing may have gained what he did naturally, but knowing him, college football and athletes these days chances are highly doubtful he did.
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I don't buy it Tre. I couldn't put on 20lbs of muscle in 5 years of training, so you must be lying!
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Gotta love the getbig mentality...if I couldn't do it, there's NO way you could..haha
People need to understand, your first year of training, putting on 20lbs of muscle is ENTIRELY possible without drugs. The fact is, most people don't have the diet to support their workouts. They workout consistently, but FAIL when it comes to diet.
After the initial big gain in muscle, 5lbs of muscle a year is impressive...naturally.
Once again, most people have zero faith in their own ability or have the heart to diet hard for a year or two. No less 5 years, etc.
Whether or not Cushing is on gear or not, who cares. I will say, at least athletes have a reason to take drugs....lots of money. Unlike your typical gym rat, who takes gear to "compete". haha, what a sad excuse to use drugs. Fact is, most just can't hack it on their own....period. ;) then use competing as a reason for their drug use, when really, there is none.
you're quite the hacker yourself
any new videos planned? ;D :D
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Dude do you even know anything about college athletics? You honestly think USC as a higher learning institution would be providing breakthrough performance enhancement technology to their football players? Dude that is the fucking stupidest shit I've ever heard. Their football program would die overnight if the media and general public got wind of something like that. They'd never risk something so stupid. Are you seriously 12 years old?
Ease up on the roid rage there spanky. 80 pounds is not a rumor. He was 160 entering college and now rated as 240. Now those numbers might be lies to enhance his stats for the draft, but the dude did get jacked fast. I don't think he ever failed a test either. Speculation was he might have. And yes, schools don't directly give their athletes shit fucktard. Most of these ADs turn their heads to most of this shit anyways. You've got kids willing to do and take anything to make it and if that means injecting some new shit you bet they'd do it without blinking an eye. Do you think he just took test and dbol and passed all of his drug tests?
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Who was the moron that said USC was giving him gear....dude, you haven't a clue what SC does in there athletic programs but I can GUARANTEE one thing, that ain't it!
During his discressionary time Cushing works with two people, one here in So. Cal (whos name I won't say) and on the east coast Joe Defranco, it's he does during that discressionary time on the east coast that should be questioned.
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Who was the moron that said USC was giving him gear....dude, you haven't a clue what SC does in there athletic programs but I can GUARANTEE one thing, that ain't it!
During his discressionary time Cushing works with two people, one here in So. Cal (whos name I won't say) and on the east coast Joe Defranco, it's he does during that discressionary time on the east coast that should be questioned.
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Oh brother, our resident USC expert...
This is coming from the guy who went to ONE training session at USC and then was requested to leave early, while more qualified people on the staff continued to participate.....
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Ease up on the roid rage there spanky. 80 pounds is not a rumor. He was 160 entering college and now rated as 240. Now those numbers might be lies to enhance his stats for the draft, but the dude did get jacked fast. I don't think he ever failed a test either. Speculation was he might have. And yes, schools don't directly give their athletes shit fucktard. Most of these ADs turn their heads to most of this shit anyways. You've got kids willing to do and take anything to make it and if that means injecting some new shit you bet they'd do it without blinking an eye. Do you think he just took test and dbol and passed all of his drug tests?
Dude you don't even think. You just spout shit that makes no sense. First off look at the damn pictures. There is no way in hell Cushing gained 80lbs of muscle. I hardly doubt he weighed only 160lbs going into college. And judging by various pics he does not look 240.
Second, you said USC is giving him shit they cooked up in their labs. That's fucking retarded. Now if you wanted to argue USC might play politics when it came to drug testing fine. I'd buy it. But no way in hell USC would risk their reputation by doping their own football players. That's the stupidest thing you could ever come up with. Athletic directors might turn their heads when it comes to strip clubs and cheating but it's their ass on the line and their job if their players are caught red handed with drugs in their system. They might turn their head but no way in hell are they encouraging nor directly involved in doping up the players. That's assinine and if you think that you have no clue how college athletics work or how much a school's reputation is on the line. Plus it's not hard to pass piss tests nowadays. Least of all college football piss tests.
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I'm up there at least once per week for the last 3 or so months, so yes, I know the programs and most of the players well.
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LMAO! No he's not on anything. It's perfectly natural even with supergenetics to put on 80lbs in 3 years. Happens all the time.
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Idiot
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Dude you don't even think. You just spout shit that makes no sense. First off look at the damn pictures. There is no way in hell Cushing gained 80lbs of muscle. I hardly doubt he weighed only 160lbs going into college. And judging by various pics he does not look 240.
Second, you said USC is giving him shit they cooked up in their labs. That's fucking retarded. Now if you wanted to argue USC might play politics when it came to drug testing fine. I'd buy it. But no way in hell USC would risk their reputation by doping their own football players. That's the stupidest thing you could ever come up with. Athletic directors might turn their heads when it comes to strip clubs and cheating but it's their ass on the line and their job if their players are caught red handed with drugs in their system. They might turn their head but no way in hell are they encouraging nor directly involved in doping up the players. That's assinine and if you think that you have no clue how college athletics work or how much a school's reputation is on the line. Plus it's not hard to pass piss tests nowadays. Least of all college football piss tests.
Again those photos aren't the end all and be all of what he looked like at the scouting combine. Not even sure where those photos are from. And he put on 80 pounds of mass, not entirely muscle. Dude got jacked quickly. He was always a fast excellent football player, but getting jacked like that under the radar is not normal.
He might be as GH15 would say on insulin and GH. I don't even think schools can test for that or at least try to.
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Idiot
Are you calling me an idiot? I was being sarcastic genius! Try to keep up.
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Idiot
epic missing the sarcastic undertone....
method ... you make cartman look like Nasseem
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Again those photos aren't the end all and be all of what he looked like at the scouting combine. Not even sure where those photos are from. And he put on 80 pounds of mass, not entirely muscle. Dude got jacked quickly. He was always a fast excellent football player, but getting jacked like that under the radar is not normal.
He might be as GH15 would say on insulin and GH. I don't even think schools can test for that or at least try to.
No this is what he looked like this month.
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/K_2yNm7i_W_/2009+NFL+Scouting+Combine+Day+5/nfirE_hfBnR/Brian+Cushing
Hardly the beast you make him out to be. I wouldn't call him jacked either. Some of black USC players are far and away much bigger and much more "jacked" than Cushing.
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The dude obviously has used steroids or just had a fucked up puberty because in the one pic I posted he had epic gyno. Looks like he got it removed. How knows. I could care less. USC sucks and are a bunch of fags.
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No this is what he looked like this month.
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/K_2yNm7i_W_/2009+NFL+Scouting+Combine+Day+5/nfirE_hfBnR/Brian+Cushing
Hardly the beast you make him out to be. I wouldn't call him jacked either. Some of black USC players are far and away much bigger and much more "jacked" than Cushing.
Where's the context of him next to someone else? It's evident he was off the juice at the combine. You'd have to be dumber than fuck to be on cycle at an NFL combine. The NFL tests you there, not college. You get caught at the combine and you're done. No more school to go back to. No more one more year to prove to other teams that you're any good.
Again, he was listed from 160-240. How accurate is that? When little midgets like Phil heath says he's 5'11", I don't buy it. The USC media guide is probably 60% accurate when it comes to the player's height and weight.
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sorry Tre but there is no way you gained 40 pounds of muscle in 2 years LOL ;D
more like 15 pounds of muscle and 25 pounds of fat lol
where is quakeroats when you need him :-\
Remember, though, I came out of high school at about 150, lean, but not shredded. So, by adding weights, calories, and a lot more protein to the mix, it was easy to put on some solid weight. :)
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Remember, though, I came out of high school at about 150, lean, but not shredded. So, by adding weights, calories, and a lot more protein to the mix, it was easy to put on some solid weight. :)
:D
solid weight ?
from 150 ?
80 lbs in 2years ?
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaahahahahahahahahaha
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he was not 160 entering college, you don't get major scholarship offers from major schools being a 160 lb linebacker ::)
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he was not 160 entering college, you don't get major scholarship offers from major schools being a 160 lb linebacker ::)
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Exactly. People throw around numbers without having any idea how big or small they are. 160 is tiny. 240 is a big dude. I'd say Cushing is obviously over 200lbs but under 240. And maybe he is off during the combine. But he's not a the huge beast Mon of Steele makes him sound. The average NFL player is fucking huge. Cushing better step up his game that's for sure. He better get a lot bigger than what he is now.
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I don't buy it Tre. I couldn't put on 20lbs of muscle in 5 years of training, so you must be lying!
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Gotta love the getbig mentality...if I couldn't do it, there's NO way you could..haha
People need to understand, your first year of training, putting on 20lbs of muscle is ENTIRELY possible without drugs. The fact is, most people don't have the diet to support their workouts. They workout consistently, but FAIL when it comes to diet.
After the initial big gain in muscle, 5lbs of muscle a year is impressive...naturally.
Once again, most people have zero faith in their own ability or have the heart to diet hard for a year or two. No less 5 years, etc.
Whether or not Cushing is on gear or not, who cares. I will say, at least athletes have a reason to take drugs....lots of money. Unlike your typical gym rat, who takes gear to "compete". haha, what a sad excuse to use drugs. Fact is, most just can't hack it on their own....period. ;) then use competing as a reason for their drug use, when really, there is none.
I'm not saying it was all muscle, but remember, I started out of 5-10, 150 lbs...very thin. All I had were delts and abs. Getting to a solid 190 wasn't as difficult as you guys want to believe. When you start out as a stick and just work out and eat more, you're going to put on weight. Those are Charles Atlas techniques 101!
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he was not 160 entering college, you don't get major scholarship offers from major schools being a 160 lb linebacker ::)
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Thank you. I was wondering where that bullshit number came from
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high school profile
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=26459&Sport=1
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Dude you don't even think. You just spout shit that makes no sense. First off look at the damn pictures. There is no way in hell Cushing gained 80lbs of muscle. I hardly doubt he weighed only 160lbs going into college. And judging by various pics he does not look 240.
Second, you said USC is giving him shit they cooked up in their labs. That's fucking retarded. Now if you wanted to argue USC might play politics when it came to drug testing fine. I'd buy it. But no way in hell USC would risk their reputation by doping their own football players. That's the stupidest thing you could ever come up with. Athletic directors might turn their heads when it comes to strip clubs and cheating but it's their ass on the line and their job if their players are caught red handed with drugs in their system. They might turn their head but no way in hell are they encouraging nor directly involved in doping up the players. That's assinine and if you think that you have no clue how college athletics work or how much a school's reputation is on the line. Plus it's not hard to pass piss tests nowadays. Least of all college football piss tests.
sorrry to disappoint you buddy, but USC does cook up ALL its athletes......USC is no different than a professional team....All players have mandatory meetings with "nutritionists" ...who "tell them what to eat"...your results after those "meetings"....is the most dynamic and athletic team in the history of college football...college football is tooo competitive to just do creatine.....too much money in the air, too many potential multimillion dolllar contracts.....
dude, let it go...let it go..
dont be sad that if your favorite school boy college qb is taking madd doses or aderal or some other shit before the game...or you got a freak 1st round LB injecting madd susbstances to up his status in the draft........and oh yea....dont be surprised if everyone else is juicing to catch up to the genetically gifted juicers so they one day can play ball in da nfl and get paid millions of dollars.....
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The guy is 6 foot 3 or 4, the 240 pounds is totally believable. He is juiced to the tits though, no doubt. Taylor Mayes and Clay Matthews as well. Mayaluga is the only one who is clean IMO. But who cares, they all do something at the next level. Too much money involved not to.
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gotta love these athletic, white linebackers
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::) Just shut up. 40lbs of muscle is not the same thing as 40lbs of fat, water, and muscle. Sure most guys can gain as much weight as they can stuff food in their mouth. But when that muscle is lean and vascular it ain't natural. Cushing may have gained what he did naturally, but knowing him, college football and athletes these days chances are highly doubtful he did.
No, 40lbs of muscle is possible naturally in 2 years. Or 60lbs total. Remember, not everyone has the same diet/work ethic/genetics. I understand lean mass vs. mass, you're incorrect here.
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Remember, though, I came out of high school at about 150, lean, but not shredded. So, by adding weights, calories, and a lot more protein to the mix, it was easy to put on some solid weight. :)
Another thing people forget is metabolism. You can add weigh much more easily @25, than at 17yrs old.
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Who was the moron that said USC was giving him gear....dude, you haven't a clue what SC does in there athletic programs but I can GUARANTEE one thing, that ain't it!
During his discressionary time Cushing works with two people, one here in So. Cal (whos name I won't say) and on the east coast Joe Defranco, it's he does during that discressionary time on the east coast that should be questioned.
dude...obviously they don't just give him boxes of test and tren......college football is a dirty ass sport...how do i know, because i played it....coaches and their "college coaching records" is like a crak head and his crak......
it works like this...and you decide what you should do...hypothetical example.....
"dammint jonny..if you don tackle that running behind the line of scrimange (which means getting around 6'6 centers and gaurds with 4.8 fortys and on the juice and want to get draft, because if they dont, its back to the farm because their grades are all fuked up because of football) your out....if better happen this game or your carrer is done..no draft or millions for you....."
what is your next move...
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gaining 40lbs of muscle in football terms is very different than gaining 40lbs in bodybuilding terms....gaining 40lbs in football terms means ALOT....gaining speed, gaining strength, having stronger squat power to push your heavier weight at faster speeds..developing a unique fast twitch muscle fiber ration to a slow twitch so that the added weight isnt slowing you down...
so yes, he did do the juice.....
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gaining 40lbs of muscle in football terms is very different than gaining 40lbs in bodybuilding terms....gaining 40lbs in football terms means ALOT....gaining speed, gaining strength, having stronger squat power to push your heavier weight at faster speeds..developing a unique fast twitch muscle fiber ration to a slow twitch so that the added weight isnt slowing you down...
so yes, he did do the juice.....
gaining speed while gaining 40 lbs
that's a new one
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dude...obviously they don't just give him boxes of test and tren......college football is a dirty ass sport...how do i know, because i played it....coaches and their "college coaching records" is like a crak head and his crak......
it works like this...and you decide what you should do...hypothetical example.....
"dammint jonny..if you don tackle that running behind the line of scrimange (which means getting around 6'6 centers and gaurds with 4.8 fortys and on the juice and want to get draft, because if they dont, its back to the farm because their grades are all fuked up because of football) your out....if better happen this game or your carrer is done..no draft or millions for you....."
what is your next move...
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x2. Guy says he played football in college yet sounds like a foreigner who can barely speak English.
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x2. Guy says he played football in college yet sounds like a foreigner who can barely speak English.
roid rage.....
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"dammint jonny..if you don tackle that running behind the line of scrimange your out
what is your next move...
You watch too many sports movies.
Go outside for once in your life.
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You watch too many sports movies.
Go outside for once in your life.
right..........
6'0 ..250...13% bf......
wut u got motha fucka
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right..........
6'0 ..250...13% bf......
wut u got motha fucka
Why must you fill this forum with such lies?
By the way, I have ZERO desire to weigh 250 lbs.
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In the 70's Ohio State (one of those fb stories, not sure if it's confirmed) used to have a shopping cart full of goodies for the football team.
also, this queef's listed as 216 in high school, so did he lose 60 lbs between his senior year and freshman year of college?
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Somebody enlighten me.
Did Cushing start off as a kicker at USC?
I don't see USC picking up any 160 pound linebackers out of High School.
This claim smells like shit.
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Dude how old are you? You sound like a fucking naive teenager. First off I don't know where you got 80lbs from. Because Cushing hardly looks like he gained 80lbs. So that part is bullshit. Secondly, do you have a clue what an androgen is? You act like teenage males have supraphysiological doses of testosterone. Yes they have higher levels but they are not supraphysiological. They don't turn into the fucking Hulk overnight. Also androgens are resonsible mainly for secondary sex characteristics and not only muscle growth hence puberty. Cushing may very well have achieved those gains naturally but no way in hell he gained 80lbs in 3 years. Some of you have no clue the kind of numbers you throw around. Or whoever started the 80lb gain rumor.
I remember some tennis pro's saying there were guys on tour using and you see a guy gain 50 pounds in 6 months!
People have no idea with figures.
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Somebody enlighten me.
Did Cushing start off as a kicker at USC?
I don't see USC picking up any 160 pound linebackers out of High School.
This claim smells like shit.
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=26459&Sport=1
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Somebody enlighten me.
Did Cushing start off as a kicker at USC?
I don't see USC picking up any 160 pound linebackers out of High School.
This claim smells like shit.
cushing was a top 5 player in the country...
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cushing was a top 5 player in the country...
top 50
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Why must you fill this forum with such lies?
By the way, I have ZERO desire to weigh 250 lbs.
cuz ur gay
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top 50
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Agreed, he was the best of the USC crew, but def not a top 5 player.
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Agreed, he was the best of the USC crew, but def not a top 5 player.
Brian Cushing
Cushing, Brian
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Outside linebacker
Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic
Ht: 6-foot-4 (Event)
Wt: 216 lbs
Forty: 4.51 secs
Bench max: 355 pounds
Bench reps: 38
Squat max: 480 pounds
Vertical: 40 inches
Shuttle: 3.82 secs
GPA: 3.5
Class: 2005 (High School)
Rivals.com Rating: 6.0 (About)
Position Ranking: 5
Rivals.com The Rivals100 2005 (53)
Rivals.com Outside linebackers 2005 (5)
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Brian Cushing
Cushing, Brian
Photo Gallery
Outside linebacker
Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic
Ht: 6-foot-4 (Event)
Wt: 216 lbs
Forty: 4.51 secs
Bench max: 355 pounds
Bench reps: 38
Squat max: 480 pounds
Vertical: 40 inches
Shuttle: 3.82 secs
GPA: 3.5
Class: 2005 (High School)
Rivals.com Rating: 6.0 (About)
Position Ranking: 5
Rivals.com The Rivals100 2005 (53)
Rivals.com Outside linebackers 2005 (5)
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Lies upon lies.
You must be a pathological liar or something.
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Not one single draftnick has Cush ranked as a top five player. Curry was a top five player....not Cushing. You're showing stats from 2005. Please show the ones from 2008. Do you really think Cush could be an NFL lb at 216 lbs? Those are from when he was a freshman.
Is this guy like famous in the states?
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Is this guy like famous in the states?
No.
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Not one single draftnick has Cush ranked as a top five player. Curry was a top five player....not Cushing. You're showing stats from 2005. Please show the ones from 2008. Do you really think Cush could be an NFL lb at 216 lbs? Those are from when he was a freshman. He's not a top five player.....not even close!
those are his supposed stats his senior year of high school
most recruiting sites said cushing was a top 50 prospect in the country as a high school player
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Brian Cushing
Cushing, Brian
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Outside linebacker
Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic
Ht: 6-foot-4 (Event)
Wt: 216 lbs
Forty: 4.51 secs
Bench max: 355 pounds
Bench reps: 38
Squat max: 480 pounds
Vertical: 40 inches
Shuttle: 3.82 secs
GPA: 3.5
Class: 2005 (High School)
Rivals.com Rating: 6.0 (About)
Position Ranking: 5
Rivals.com The Rivals100 2005 (53)
Rivals.com Outside linebackers 2005 (5)
216 lbs? You're showing his freshman stats from four years ago? he might have been a top five player before he played a down of college ball, but not now. He was drafted out of the top ten because Curry and Orakpo were better lb prospects than him. Cush is a good player, but he's not a top five player. Show me something from this year that says he is.
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those are his supposed stats his senior year of high school
most recruiting sites said cushing was a top 50 prospect in the country as a high school player
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Who cares what they said then....after four years at USC he was the third ranked lb on coming out this year. He was a top 20 talent, but def not top 5. Some thought Clay M was the best of the USC crop......
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Who cares what they said then....after four years at USC he was the third ranked lb on coming out this year. He was a top 20 talent, but def not top 5.
just pointing out the fact that he was never 160 lb freshman at usc
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just pointing out the fact that he was never 160 lb freshman at usc
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Agreed. I was just making the point in general. Sorry if the post was confusing. I mean, is Cushing really THAT much better than Larry English?
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Who cares what they said then....after four years at USC he was the third ranked lb on coming out this year. He was a top 20 talent, but def not top 5. Some thought Clay M was the best of the USC crop......
actually hes extremely overrated.....the brand name USC gave him the royal gift of being considered highly touted.....hes soft, he cant hit, he cant read plays, he misses mad tackles, hes always injured, no leadership qualities.....(Ive studied his tapes)...and my buddy played against him, he said he was soft and is scared to hit, and scared of the black man...he was a qb/rb in high school....only reason why he was put at linebacker because he couldnt fit anywhere else.
why hes top 5..
comes from a quality program, is somewhat athletic, has a good work ethic....
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actually hes extremely overrated.....the brand name USC gave him the royal gift of being considered highly touted.....hes soft, he cant hit, he cant read plays, he misses mad tackles, hes always injured, no leadership qualities.....(Ive studied his tapes)...and my buddy played against him, he said he was soft and is scared to hit, and scared of the black man...he was a qb/rb in high school....only reason why he was put at linebacker because he couldnt fit anywhere else.
why hes top 5..
comes from a quality program, is somewhat athletic, has a good work ethic....
Just when I didn't think it was possible, he spews even more bullshit.
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Just when I didn't think it was possible, he spews even more bullshit.
dude hes whack...no lie. Generation NOTHINGness like gh15 says...its soo true...hes just sume pretty white boy that comes from a big time program who had no skills...except to beat on bad teams...im from florida, i used to watch his high school high lights ...knew the teams he played...where he played football is where blind kids can live dreams....goes to college, never leads a game in tackles, is always injured..ect...
its the truth
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dude hes whack...no lie. Generation NOTHINGness like gh15 says...its soo true...hes just sume pretty white boy that comes from a big time program who had no skills...except to beat on bad teams...im from florida, i used to watch his high school high lights ...knew the teams he played...where he played football is where blind kids can live dreams....goes to college, never leads a game in tackles, is always injured..ect...
its the truth
I think I'll take my chances with the Pro Scouts opinion rather than some little fucking queer named "mogulgangi" on an internet forum board
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No comment on the drug use.
The REAL sad story is how major universities and most pro teams strength train their athletes. Do you realize there are division one athletes that weigh over 300 lbs and can't even bench their weight?
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dude hes whack...no lie. Generation NOTHINGness like gh15 says...its soo true...hes just sume pretty white boy that comes from a big time program who had no skills...except to beat on bad teams...im from florida, i used to watch his high school high lights ...knew the teams he played...where he played football is where blind kids can live dreams....goes to college, never leads a game in tackles, is always injured..ect...
its the truth
Can't argee with you here. You make him sound like a bum. He's going to be a good NFL player, he's not elite though.
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I think I'll take my chances with the Pro Scouts opinion rather than some little fucking queer named "mogulgangi" on an internet forum board
"polychronopolous" = gay
pro scouts are whores...the way they choose players breaks down like this
profitability= 90%
skills= 10%
if your an inch too short, your all the sudden not good enough
if your 40 is .2 slow, your not good enough
if you come from a small school, youll be considered a good special teams player and possible scout team
if you have a average combine, but your are an amazing player in the field, all the sudden there is questions about you
football is incredibly judgmental...i guarantee you there is 100+ better lbs than cushing playing d2/d3/naia/d1aa....players that are hungry, players that never got their assholes dirty sanchezd(noo pun intended) throught their carrers....
dude if your from cali, and your a good player, youll be a top 100 recruit no matter what,, why, because all the major scouting companies are there...you can be 100times better than that player and get no respect because you live in a small state
how do i know this, because i know the game of football...
and im bigger than u
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"polychronopolous" = gay
pro scouts are whores...the way they choose players breaks down like this
profitability= 90%
skills= 10%
if your an inch too short, your all the sudden not good enough
if your 40 is .2 slow, your not good enough
if you come from a small school, youll be considered a good special teams player and possible scout team
if you have a average combine, but your are an amazing player in the field, all the sudden there is questions about you
football is incredibly judgmental...i guarantee you there is 100+ better lbs than cushing playing d2/d3/naia/d1aa....players that are hungry, players that never got their assholes dirty sanchezd(noo pun intended) throught their carrers....
dude if your from cali, and your a good player, youll be a top 100 recruit no matter what,, why, because all the major scouting companies are there...you can be 100times better than that player and get no respect because you live in a small state
how do i know this, because i know the game of football...
and im bigger than u
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dude sucks.....you really think there are other players that can do this....
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Negatives: Has struggled with injuries throughout his career -- missing five games due to a shoulder separation in 2005 and three games in 2007 due to a high ankle sprain, as well as undergoing surgery after the 2006 (shoulder) and 2007 (knee) spring practices. Relies on his athletic ability, rather than his upper body strength to defeat blocks too often. Can overrun the play and allow for cutback opportunities. Mistakes often covered up by the surrounding talent at USC
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Easy, Polywhateverthehellhisna meis is an authority on this.
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Did'nt this guy train at Joe DeFranco's gym in New Jersey?
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Easy, Polywhateverthehellhisna meis is an authority on this.
LOL, okay "Coach"
Coming from a person who would make a comment like this, I will take that as a compliment....
As I said long ago in another debate when I being called names for saying this and I will say it again......the average 40 for a highschool Jr. or Senior is around 4.6.
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He should really stick to short bursts of dbol and suspension.. both can be out of your system in days :)
while on a steady regiment of gh/humalog of course... ;)
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Hhhhmmm,Imagine that.a guy might be taking steroids so that he has the chance to make millions of dollars.
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Hhhhmmm,Imagine that.a guy might be taking steroids so that he has the chance to make millions of dollars.
You got a spare registration sheet handy, Cal?
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You got a spare registration sheet handy, Cal?
;)
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Ease up on the roid rage there spanky. 80 pounds is not a rumor. He was 160 entering college and now rated as 240. Now those numbers might be lies to enhance his stats for the draft, but the dude did get jacked fast. I don't think he ever failed a test either. Speculation was he might have. And yes, schools don't directly give their athletes shit fucktard. Most of these ADs turn their heads to most of this shit anyways. You've got kids willing to do and take anything to make it and if that means injecting some new shit you bet they'd do it without blinking an eye. Do you think he just took test and dbol and passed all of his drug tests?
Test Suspension is only in the blood for hours. LIke 24 and gone. He could have been on some quick excretion stuff like that.
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This just in, he's not natural - http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5172060 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5172060)
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LOL....Guess who was right?
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::) Just shut up. 40lbs of muscle is not the same thing as 40lbs of fat, water, and muscle. Sure most guys can gain as much weight as they can stuff food in their mouth. But when that muscle is lean and vascular it ain't natural. Cushing may have gained what he did naturally, but knowing him, college football and athletes these days chances are highly doubtful he did.
agreed, you can put on 20 kg of weight in 2 years but not 20 kg of pure muscle, so croatch needs to shut the fuck up,
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it is such hypocrasy...because EVERYONE is doing it in the NFL. and with that being said, how does the NFL decide randomly to slap this or that person on the wrist.....when it is as ubiquitous as anything.
was this kid just being loud about it, or didnt go through the proper channels.....i would be interested to know how it really works.
it literally like giving out speeding tickets at the indy500
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i played D1 ball from 99-2002 in the PAC-10. for those of you who never have experienced athletics at this level other than watching movies, there is no open drug use. its kept quiet by those who do so. and if you think otherwise then you have obviously not been in one of those locker rooms.
no one owes you a explanation as to why you didnt make the cut. dont try and blame it on some secret supp that someone took, that took away your chance at greatness. you didnt make it, get over it.
the good news is that you can still do something about your past failure. get on some gear, train, and do a npc show. win a title. then you can finally let it go and die as the warrior you always wanted to be.
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Why this is a surprise to some of you baffles me. Today it's so easy to pass a piss test or whatever test. Who ever thinks Brock Lesner's and 99% of the athletes out there in ALL SPORTS are not on the juice is an idiot. I have passed countless of tests and I've been juicing for years. Take this as you may but please, some of you naive bastards have to learn and face what reality is. This Cushing kid, is all drugs and all fake and getting caught was expected if your a meathead. Guys in the locker room probably just laugh because they are all doing it and are just smarter with it.
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Anyone who thinks steroid use is not rampant in the NFL is a moron. Baseball has actually stricter guidelines now a days as well as better testing capabilities. Your tryin to argue that more people use steroids in a sport that you hit or throw a baseball then one where you literally depend on being stronger then the guy opposing you? Give me a break. I live down the street from a guy on the practice team of the giants and this guy says at least 90 percent of the league is on. Everyone juices in the offseason and runs hgh and other peptides during the season which are untraceable and help with recovery and preventing injury.
This guy's comment is probably the most accurate and truthful. Poor white boy got caught because he didn't know what he was doing.
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Ease up on the roid rage there spanky. 80 pounds is not a rumor. He was 160 entering college and now rated as 240. Now those numbers might be lies to enhance his stats for the draft, but the dude did get jacked fast. I don't think he ever failed a test either. Speculation was he might have. And yes, schools don't directly give their athletes shit fucktard. Most of these ADs turn their heads to most of this shit anyways. You've got kids willing to do and take anything to make it and if that means injecting some new shit you bet they'd do it without blinking an eye. Do you think he just took test and dbol and passed all of his drug tests?
You are out of yoru mind?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/alabama/football/recruiting/player-Brian-Cushing-26459 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/alabama/football/recruiting/player-Brian-Cushing-26459)
Cush was a TOP rated linebacker in HS and was 216 when he signed with USC. So by the time he reported to USC I can was prob well over 216.
NO WAY was he 160.
Another wanna be who has never put on a jock strap in his entire life trying to give advice on other athletes ::)
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Can't argee with you here. You make him sound like a bum. He's going to be a good NFL player, he's not elite though.
NFL Rookie of the year is pretty "Elite" in my book.
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those are his supposed stats his senior year of high school
most recruiting sites said cushing was a top 50 prospect in the country as a high school player
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Some VERY serious ownage going on in this thread for all the dillusional bodybuilding thong worshiping schomes.
THose numbers were from a RIvals combine and are VERY legit.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/alabama/football/recruiting/player-Brian-Cushing-26459 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/alabama/football/recruiting/player-Brian-Cushing-26459)
He was the #5 rated line backer in the nation as a Sr. In HS.
He just finished as NFL Defensive Rookine of the year.
LOL don't quit your day job Earl cus you have no future as an NFL scout LMFAO!
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i played D1 ball from 99-2002 in the PAC-10. for those of you who never have experienced athletics at this level other than watching movies, there is no open drug use. its kept quiet by those who do so. and if you think otherwise then you have obviously not been in one of those locker rooms.
no one owes you a explanation as to why you didnt make the cut. dont try and blame it on some secret supp that someone took, that took away your chance at greatness. you didnt make it, get over it.
the good news is that you can still do something about your past failure. get on some gear, train, and do a npc show. win a title. then you can finally let it go and die as the warrior you always wanted to be.
hahaha...i had a good natural Quad A football career in LA at SS 70ins 190lbs by senior yr...so i'll pass on the npc show n needle sticks. thanks anyway.
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"polychronopolous" = gay
pro scouts are whores...the way they choose players breaks down like this
profitability= 90%
skills= 10%
if your an inch too short, your all the sudden not good enough
if your 40 is .2 slow, your not good enough
if you come from a small school, youll be considered a good special teams player and possible scout team
if you have a average combine, but your are an amazing player in the field, all the sudden there is questions about you
football is incredibly judgmental...i guarantee you there is 100+ better lbs than cushing playing d2/d3/naia/d1aa....players that are hungry, players that never got their assholes dirty sanchezd(noo pun intended) throught their carrers....
dude if your from cali, and your a good player, youll be a top 100 recruit no matter what,, why, because all the major scouting companies are there...you can be 100times better than that player and get no respect because you live in a small state
how do i know this, because i know the game of football...
and im bigger than u
LOL Future NFL scout here LOL
He just made NFL Defensive Rookie of the year LOL
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i played D1 ball from 99-2002 in the PAC-10.
Would you ackowledge that the Pac-10 is the 4th or 5th best conf?
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Would you ackowledge that the Pac-10 is the 4th or 5th best conf?
UGA might finish 4th in the Pac10
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Some VERY serious ownage going on in this thread for all the dillusional bodybuilding thong worshiping schomes.
THose numbers were from a RIvals combine and are VERY legit.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/alabama/football/recruiting/player-Brian-Cushing-26459 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/alabama/football/recruiting/player-Brian-Cushing-26459)
He was the #5 rated line backer in the nation as a Sr. In HS.
He just finished as NFL Defensive Rookine of the year.
LOL don't quit your day job Earl cus you have no future as an NFL scout LMFAO!
what on earth are you talking about?
i said top 50 player, that means regardless their postion
learn to read unless you want to get owned again
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what on earth are you talking about?
i said top 50 player, that means regardless their postion
learn to read unless you want to get owned again
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I see you aren't aruging the dillusional , thong worshiping schmoe part ;D
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I see you aren't aruging the dillusional , thong worshiping schmoe part ;D
i see you aren't arguing the fact that you don't know how to read and got owned
we're all bodybuilding fans, calling it "thong worship" just shows how insecure and ashamed you are of yourself :-*
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I put on over 40 lbs training for just 2 years and wasn't using shit and have crap genetics when it comes to building muscle.
Even if he did take a little drop of medicine, the majority of his growth was due to an improved training and nutrition regimen as well as his maturing into his body.
Your ignorance is amusing.
The majority of Cushings growth was due to training like a mad-man and shooting up a shitload of test.
Same with his pal Clay Mathews. Couldn't make the varsity team in highschool, was a backup for USC for three seasons, then blew up his senior year and put himself into the first round.
In the NFL, steroids offer a huge competitive advantage, due to the increased strength and the ability for the athlete to recover much faster. Everyone is hurt all the time. Recovery is huge.
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Wow, what a shocker!?
Anyone with a brain knew Cushing was/is on the sauce. The changes in his physique and production told that story his senior year.
Another guy who is a blatant steroid user is Cushing's old teammate, Clay Matthews. Clay had a big time season this year for the packers. I love him a as player. Great moter, good attitude productive - the whole nine.
Clay was a guy who couldn't make his highschools varsity squad, had no scholarship offers, walked on to USC and was a backup for his first three seasons. The kid was pretty skinny and lacked the athleticism and size to be an elite college player. Then came Clay's senior year. he showed up 60 lb's heavier looking like a physical specimen. His play improved dramatically and he elevated himself to first round status in the draft. Anyone who tries to tell me the kid wasnt doing everything he could to get bigger and stronger over his first three seasons is full of shit.
Weird how his buddy just got popped for juice ::)
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Wow, what a shocker!?
Anyone with a brain knew Cushing was/is on the sauce. The changes in his physique and production told that story his senior year.
Another guy who is a blatant steroid user is Cushing's old teammate, Clay Matthews. Clay had a big time season this year for the packers. I love him a as player. Great moter, good attitude productive - the whole nine.
Clay was a guy who couldn't make his highschools varsity squad, had no scholarship offers, walked on to USC and was a backup for his first three seasons. The kid was pretty skinny and lacked the athleticism and size to be an elite college player. Then came Clay's senior year. he showed up 60 lb's heavier looking like a physical specimen. His play improved dramatically and he elevated himself to first round status in the draft. Anyone who tries to tell me the kid wasnt doing everything he could to get bigger and stronger over his first three seasons is full of shit.
Weird how his buddy just got popped for juice ::)
Trust me Bdy88,
Taking alot of gear will not make you a beetter football player.
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Trust me Bdy88,
Taking alot of gear will not make you a beetter football player.
Yes it will. And I'm not claiming that steroids can take an average football player and make them a pro. Stop twisting my comments.
Steroids are a major advantage in the NFL, because they increase your power and also allow you to recover faster from injury/games. That means you can train more and be quicker than guys who are still recovering from their Sunday injures - etc.
Clearly, Cushing has pro level skills when it comes to playing football. To claim those skills were not noticeably increased by his steroid use is laughable. if it didn't make a difference guys wouldn't risk 4 game suspensions to do it.
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Imagine if this bad guy weren't natural!!!
(http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/57/579756.jpg)
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Would you ackowledge that the Pac-10 is the 4th or 5th best conf?
well usc , ucla and stanford were all on our schedule.
where did you play?
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cmon mouth, where did you play? u of a here. and verifiable.
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I put on over 40 lbs training for just 2 years and wasn't using shit and have crap genetics when it comes to building muscle.
Even if he did take a little drop of medicine, the majority of his growth was due to an improved training and nutrition regimen as well as his maturing into his body.
dont waste your time Tre.
these morons on GB think that 20lb in a year - or even 10lbs isnt possible unless dosing on gear.
i completely believe you and have seen it countless times- from average joes and more gains even from some gifted guys.
heck 20 lbs in the first 6 months on alot of dudes.
but i dont post this stuff as GB dipshits call foul and cry lying. maybe thats because their sorry asses couldnt gain 5lb a year dosed to the eyeballs.
ive seen a number of guys go from 160-170lbs to 220-240-and more- over periods from 6-10 years...with most of them hitting 200lb within the first 2-3 years.
but of course they must be genetically gifted, right?- wrong...train hard, eat clean, sleep, be disciplined, and persist.
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Anyone think now this clown is clean after being suspended 4 games for failing a steroid test?
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A person familiar with Cushing's case told The Associated Press on Tuesday that Cushing had one positive test last September, then subsequently tested negative several times. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the test results were supposed to remain confidential.
"He had one low-level positive test for HCG in September, and then every test after that was negative," the person said. "He has said he has no idea where the positive test came from."
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/05/11/cushing-hcg.ap/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz0nfz32qy2
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NFL drug "tests" are a joke......
i went to the university of maryland......remind me to tell my shawn merriman story one day
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NFL drug "tests" are a joke......
i went to the university of maryland......remind me to tell my shawn merriman story one day
i am not saying there are not cracks in the system,guys using or masking done but the ncaa does test and often,i have a cousin who plays div 1 and is tested yearly and often.he also played for one of the top 3 in nj high school football and yes i'm sure some of those kids were taking 2.
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NFL drug "tests" are a joke......
i went to the university of maryland......remind me to tell my shawn merriman story one day
Check out his Hooters. :o
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/ot-brian-cushing-roids-no-way
Check him out in High School. :o