Media accusing Brian Cushing of USC being on juice gaining 80 pounds in 3 years

[Method101]

LMAO!  No he's not on anything.  It's perfectly natural even with supergenetics to put on 80lbs in 3 years.  Happens all the time. 

Idiot

[El Diablo Blanco]

Dude you don't even think.  You just spout shit that makes no sense.  First off look at the damn pictures.  There is no way in hell Cushing gained 80lbs of muscle.  I hardly doubt he weighed only 160lbs going into college.  And judging by various pics he does not look 240.  

Second, you said USC is giving him shit they cooked up in their labs.  That's fucking retarded.  Now if you wanted to argue USC might play politics when it came to drug testing fine.  I'd buy it.  But no way in hell USC would risk their reputation by doping their own football players.  That's the stupidest thing you could ever come up with.  Athletic directors might turn their heads when it comes to strip clubs and cheating but it's their ass on the line and their job if their players are caught red handed with drugs in their system.  They might turn their head but no way in hell are they encouraging nor directly involved in doping up the players.  That's assinine and if you think that you have no clue how college athletics work or how much a school's reputation is on the line.  Plus it's not hard to pass piss tests nowadays.  Least of all college football piss tests.  

Again those photos aren't the end all and be all of what he looked like at the scouting combine.  Not even sure where those photos are from.  And he put on 80 pounds of mass, not entirely muscle.  Dude got jacked quickly.  He was always a fast excellent football player, but getting jacked like that under the radar is not normal.

He might be as GH15 would say on insulin and GH.  I don't even think schools can test for that or at least try to.

[MuscleMcMannus]

Idiot

Are you calling me an idiot?  I was being sarcastic genius!  Try to keep up. 

[Cleanest Natural]

Idiot

epic missing the sarcastic undertone....

method ... you make cartman look like Nasseem

[MuscleMcMannus]

Again those photos aren't the end all and be all of what he looked like at the scouting combine.  Not even sure where those photos are from.  And he put on 80 pounds of mass, not entirely muscle.  Dude got jacked quickly.  He was always a fast excellent football player, but getting jacked like that under the radar is not normal.

He might be as GH15 would say on insulin and GH.  I don't even think schools can test for that or at least try to.

No this is what he looked like this month. 
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/K_2yNm7i_W_/2009+NFL+Scouting+Combine+Day+5/nfirE_hfBnR/Brian+Cushing

Hardly the beast you make him out to be.  I wouldn't call him jacked either.  Some of black USC players are far and away much bigger and much more "jacked" than Cushing. 

[MuscleMcMannus]

The dude obviously has used steroids or just had a fucked up puberty because in the one pic I posted he had epic gyno.  Looks like he got it removed.  How knows.  I could care less.  USC sucks and are a bunch of fags. 

[El Diablo Blanco]

No this is what he looked like this month. 
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/K_2yNm7i_W_/2009+NFL+Scouting+Combine+Day+5/nfirE_hfBnR/Brian+Cushing

Hardly the beast you make him out to be.  I wouldn't call him jacked either.  Some of black USC players are far and away much bigger and much more "jacked" than Cushing. 

Where's the context of him next to someone else?  It's evident he was off the juice at the combine.  You'd have to be dumber than fuck to be on cycle at an NFL combine.  The NFL tests you there, not college.  You get caught at the combine and you're done.  No more school to go back to.  No more one more year to prove to other teams that you're any good.

Again, he was listed from 160-240.  How accurate is that?  When little midgets like Phil heath says he's 5'11", I don't buy it.  The USC media guide is probably 60% accurate when it comes to the player's height and weight.

[Tre]

sorry Tre but there is no way you gained 40 pounds of muscle in 2 years LOL 
more like 15 pounds of muscle and 25 pounds of fat lol
where is quakeroats when you need him 

Remember, though, I came out of high school at about 150, lean, but not shredded.  So, by adding weights, calories, and a lot more protein to the mix, it was easy to put on some solid weight.   

[Cleanest Natural]

Remember, though, I came out of high school at about 150, lean, but not shredded.  So, by adding weights, calories, and a lot more protein to the mix, it was easy to put on some solid weight.   

solid weight ?

from 150 ?

80 lbs in 2years ?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaahahahahahahahahaha

[Earl1972]

he was not 160 entering college, you don't get major scholarship offers from major schools being a 160 lb linebacker

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[MuscleMcMannus]

he was not 160 entering college, you don't get major scholarship offers from major schools being a 160 lb linebacker

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Exactly.  People throw around numbers without having any idea how big or small they are.  160 is tiny.  240 is a big dude.  I'd say Cushing is obviously over 200lbs but under 240.  And maybe he is off during the combine.  But he's not a the huge beast Mon of Steele makes him sound.  The average NFL player is fucking huge.  Cushing better step up his game that's for sure.  He better get a lot bigger than what he is now. 

[Tre]

I don't buy it Tre.  I couldn't put on 20lbs of muscle in 5 years of training, so you must be lying!
 
Gotta love the getbig mentality...if I couldn't do it, there's NO way you could..haha

People need to understand, your first year of training, putting on 20lbs of muscle is ENTIRELY possible without drugs.  The fact is, most people don't have the diet to support their workouts.  They workout consistently, but FAIL when it comes to diet.
After the initial big gain in muscle, 5lbs of muscle a year is impressive...naturally.

Once again, most people have zero faith in their own ability or have the heart to diet hard for a year or two.  No less 5 years, etc.
Whether or not Cushing is on gear or not, who cares.  I will say, at least athletes have a reason to take drugs....lots of money.  Unlike your typical gym rat, who takes gear to "compete". haha, what a sad excuse to use drugs.  Fact is, most just can't hack it on their own....period. then use competing as a reason for their drug use, when really, there is none.

I'm not saying it was all muscle, but remember, I started out of 5-10, 150 lbs...very thin.  All I had were delts and abs.  Getting to a solid 190 wasn't as difficult as you guys want to believe.  When you start out as a stick and just work out and eat more, you're going to put on weight.  Those are Charles Atlas techniques 101! 

[Smokincrazy]

he was not 160 entering college, you don't get major scholarship offers from major schools being a 160 lb linebacker

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Thank you.  I was wondering where that bullshit number came from

[Earl1972]

high school profile

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=26459&Sport=1

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[mogulgangi]

Dude you don't even think.  You just spout shit that makes no sense.  First off look at the damn pictures.  There is no way in hell Cushing gained 80lbs of muscle.  I hardly doubt he weighed only 160lbs going into college.  And judging by various pics he does not look 240.  

Second, you said USC is giving him shit they cooked up in their labs.  That's fucking retarded.  Now if you wanted to argue USC might play politics when it came to drug testing fine.  I'd buy it.  But no way in hell USC would risk their reputation by doping their own football players.  That's the stupidest thing you could ever come up with.  Athletic directors might turn their heads when it comes to strip clubs and cheating but it's their ass on the line and their job if their players are caught red handed with drugs in their system.  They might turn their head but no way in hell are they encouraging nor directly involved in doping up the players.  That's assinine and if you think that you have no clue how college athletics work or how much a school's reputation is on the line.  Plus it's not hard to pass piss tests nowadays.  Least of all college football piss tests.  

sorrry to disappoint you buddy, but USC does cook up ALL its athletes......USC is no different than a professional team....All players have mandatory meetings with "nutritionists" ...who "tell them what to eat"...your results after those "meetings"....is the most dynamic and athletic team in the history of college football...college football is tooo competitive to just do creatine.....too much money in the air, too many potential multimillion dolllar contracts.....

dude, let it go...let it go..

dont be sad that if your favorite school boy college qb is taking madd doses or aderal or some other shit before the game...or you got a freak 1st round LB injecting madd susbstances to up his status in the draft........and oh yea....dont be surprised if everyone else is juicing to catch up to the genetically gifted juicers so they one day can play ball in da nfl and get paid millions of dollars.....

[thelamefalsehood]

The guy is 6 foot 3 or 4, the 240 pounds is totally believable. He is juiced to the tits though, no doubt. Taylor Mayes and Clay Matthews as well. Mayaluga is the only one who is clean IMO. But who cares, they all do something at the next level. Too much money involved not to.

[Pete Nice]

gotta love these athletic, white linebackers

[Croatch]

  Just shut up.  40lbs of muscle is not the same thing as 40lbs of fat, water, and muscle.  Sure most guys can gain as much weight as they can stuff food in their mouth.  But when that muscle is lean and vascular it ain't natural.  Cushing may have gained what he did naturally, but knowing him, college football and athletes these days chances are highly doubtful he did. 

No, 40lbs of muscle is possible naturally in 2 years.  Or 60lbs total.  Remember, not everyone has the same diet/work ethic/genetics.  I understand lean mass vs. mass, you're incorrect here.

[Croatch]

Remember, though, I came out of high school at about 150, lean, but not shredded.  So, by adding weights, calories, and a lot more protein to the mix, it was easy to put on some solid weight.   

Another thing people forget is metabolism.  You can add weigh much more easily @25, than at 17yrs old.

[mogulgangi]

Who was the moron that said USC was giving him gear....dude, you haven't a clue what SC does in there athletic programs but I can GUARANTEE one thing, that ain't it!

During his discressionary time Cushing works with two people, one here in So. Cal (whos name I won't say) and on the east coast Joe Defranco, it's he does during that discressionary time on the east coast that should be questioned.

dude...obviously they don't just give him boxes of test and tren......college football is a dirty ass sport...how do i know, because i played it....coaches and their "college coaching records" is like a crak head and his crak......

it works like this...and you decide what you should do...hypothetical example.....

"dammint jonny..if you don tackle that running behind the line of scrimange (which means getting around 6'6 centers and gaurds with 4.8 fortys and on the juice and want to get draft, because if they dont, its back to the farm because their grades are all fuked up because of football) your out....if better happen this game or your carrer is done..no draft or millions for you....."


what is your next move...

[mogulgangi]

gaining 40lbs of muscle in football terms is very different than gaining 40lbs in bodybuilding terms....gaining 40lbs in football terms means ALOT....gaining speed, gaining strength, having stronger squat power to push your heavier weight at faster speeds..developing a unique fast twitch muscle fiber ration to a slow twitch so that the added weight isnt slowing you down...

so yes, he did do the juice.....

[Cleanest Natural]

gaining 40lbs of muscle in football terms is very different than gaining 40lbs in bodybuilding terms....gaining 40lbs in football terms means ALOT....gaining speed, gaining strength, having stronger squat power to push your heavier weight at faster speeds..developing a unique fast twitch muscle fiber ration to a slow twitch so that the added weight isnt slowing you down...

so yes, he did do the juice.....

gaining speed while gaining 40 lbs

that's a new one

 

[polychronopolous]

dude...obviously they don't just give him boxes of test and tren......college football is a dirty ass sport...how do i know, because i played it....coaches and their "college coaching records" is like a crak head and his crak......

it works like this...and you decide what you should do...hypothetical example.....

"dammint jonny..if you don tackle that running behind the line of scrimange (which means getting around 6'6 centers and gaurds with 4.8 fortys and on the juice and want to get draft, because if they dont, its back to the farm because their grades are all fuked up because of football) your out....if better happen this game or your carrer is done..no draft or millions for you....."


what is your next move...

[MuscleMcMannus]

x2.  Guy says he played football in college yet sounds like a foreigner who can barely speak English. 

[mogulgangi]

x2.  Guy says he played football in college yet sounds like a foreigner who can barely speak English. 

roid rage.....