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Title: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Rami on December 31, 2009, 12:45:28 AM
...Pluto was discovered to be Hell. And when NASA does their fly by there in 2015, we would get's a glimpse into this macabre reality.

What a disturbing realization and jolt of reality it would be if that was to happen.
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Tapeworm on December 31, 2009, 12:49:18 AM
Alone in a random, pointless, godless universe wouldn't bother you more?  I think you just wanted to use the word 'macabre.'
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: HTexan on December 31, 2009, 12:50:47 AM
watch :event horizon
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Parker on December 31, 2009, 12:51:32 AM
...Pluto was discovered to be Hell. And when NASA does their fly by there in 2015, we would get's a glimpse into this macabre reality.

What a disturbing realization and jolt of reality it would be if that was to happen.
Well, Hell would be a dimension, not a planet...Planet Hell..when you die your souls goes to another planet...doesn't seem too feasible
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: 11venthhour on December 31, 2009, 12:53:44 AM
dosen't seem large enough
 ::)
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Tapeworm on December 31, 2009, 01:00:13 AM
Besides, wouldn't this mean Orpheus had a spaceship?  Someone should have told that guy the Comissar's in town.
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Rami on December 31, 2009, 01:10:22 AM
Alone in a random, pointless, godless universe wouldn't bother you more?  I think you just wanted to use the word 'macabre.'

godless? we are here, the universe is us. Science says nothing can be created or destroyed, only transformed. so either something has existed forever and you are right, or, you are wrong.

Likely all of us will become part of the definition of that word.

What if they were right all along, that hell really does exists, and that it is on Pluto and we are pretty much all going there?

Realizations like these are in store for mankind, you should get used to the thought because you might be able to handle all of what's coming.

"And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity"

"Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken"



Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Tapeworm on December 31, 2009, 01:17:42 AM
Straight out of Tardarus.  I see you transforming into a toothless sidewalk screamer.  Repent now!
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: wavelength on December 31, 2009, 01:27:00 AM
watch :event horizon

that's an awesome movie, gives me the fockin chills everytime
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Rami on December 31, 2009, 01:29:13 AM
Straight out of Tardarus.  I see you transforming into a toothless sidewalk screamer.  Repent now!

If it is straight out of Tardarus, then explain why I never heard of it. This leads me to believe this information is probably inherited within us, some type of shattered divine interdenominational remnants of a divine astral library with old knowledge, that you can meditate and gain access too if that is you quest, from when there was only one unity. Oddly enough, like the Ancient Greeks that apparently had access to, and wrote of this, I lately replaced cheap oil use with the use of some very fine olive oil instead. Could be a part of gaining this access. And water, think of massive quantities of water, like cosmic superstructures of water.
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Rami on December 31, 2009, 01:29:48 AM
that's an awesome movie, gives me the fockin chills everytime

I will watch this for further knowledge.
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Parker on December 31, 2009, 01:31:13 AM
If it is straight out of Tardarus, then explain why I never heard of it. This leads me to believe this information is probably inherited within us, some type of shattered divine interdenominational remnants of a divine astral library with old knowledge, that you can meditate and gain access too if that is you quest, from when there was only one unity. Oddly enough, like the Ancient Greeks that apparently had access to, and wrote of this, I lately replaced cheap oil use with the use of some very fine olive oil instead. Could be a part of gaining this access. And water, think of massive quantities of water, like cosmic superstructures of water.
The Akashic Records
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: wes on December 31, 2009, 03:10:35 AM
Welcome back Johnny !!  :)
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: garebear on December 31, 2009, 06:05:06 AM
Probably what happend was, the sky god gave instructions on life and the history of the universe to a man in a cave about 1400 years ago.

OR

A sky god got a virgin pregnant and then this son died, and arose from the dead, to teach us all how to live. Said sky god also gave the top ten rules to another man, so we would know how to live.

Yeah, makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Ex Coelis on December 31, 2009, 06:06:02 AM
Pluto isn't even a planet anymore
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Krankenstein on December 31, 2009, 06:13:49 AM
Pluto isn't even a planet anymore

Nope....and there was a good bit on Robot Chicken about it.....ha ha...that show is teh shit!
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: CalvinH on December 31, 2009, 07:17:51 AM
Pluto is a dog you idiots and bluto hasn't posted in ages!
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Saxon on December 31, 2009, 07:37:18 AM
Come the Ragnarök, you bitches won't be laughing  >:(
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: ThaRealist on December 31, 2009, 08:00:41 AM
I just can't wait until we figure out time travel, so we can go back in time and see how things really went down. History has always been written to favor one man's opinion that has the majority of power at that time. Why do you think the bible has been revised so many times. How will they talk about 9/11 in a thousand years, how will vietnam be interpreted in 2000 more years?
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: garebear on December 31, 2009, 08:13:23 AM
Come the Ragnarök, you bitches won't be laughing  >:(
No stand up comedians there?
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: haider on December 31, 2009, 08:57:20 AM
I just can't wait until we figure out time travel, so we can go back in time and see how things really went down. History has always been written to favor one man's opinion that has the majority of power at that time. Why do you think the bible has been revised so many times. How will they talk about 9/11 in a thousand years, how will vietnam be interpreted in 2000 more years?
not possible to go back in time further than when the time machine will first be built  :(
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: ThaRealist on December 31, 2009, 09:10:23 AM
not possible to go back in time further than when the time machine will first be built  :(

Technology is a helluva thing, who knows one day we may find rips in the universe that may let us travel in time.
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Tre on December 31, 2009, 09:44:45 AM
Besides, wouldn't this mean Orpheus had a spaceship?  Someone should have told that guy the Comissar's in town.

One of the greatest songs of my childhood.   ;)


Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Tapeworm on December 31, 2009, 09:49:22 AM

Hell is NYE in Perth, BFE, Australia


qft
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: haider on December 31, 2009, 10:24:57 AM

Hell is in the center of the earth:



Pss.55
[15] Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.

Prov.5
[5] Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.

Pss.139
[8] If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

Prov.7
[27] Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.

Prov.15
[24] The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.

Isa.14
[9] Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.
[15] Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.



Hell can accommodate all of the human race...

Isa.5
[14] Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

(An interesting fact is that you could fit every person in the world in the state of texas and they would each have a 3'x3' square to stand on - at least this was true several years ago...even so, the point is that the inside of the earth has much more room than the surface area of the earth.)






Are you serious?
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: caseyviator on December 31, 2009, 11:37:18 AM
my ex wife believed  what is actually the scariest thing to me which is when we die   "thats it were gone we r dust over n dune"  to me not exsisting is the hardest thing to wrap around not heaven n helll,, n good n evil,, just if it is simple science ,,   u die ur dead thats it!!   scary thought dont ya think?? that is the worst case scenario??
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: haider on December 31, 2009, 11:56:59 AM
Yes.


1.  If you believe that we die and are "non-existant" ...that is your religion...it is religion and based on faith because you  cannot prove it.

2.  If you believe that we die and goto "heaven or hell"...that is also based on faith because none of us has died and can say for certain we know what happens. 

One is ridiculous and the other is not?  Hmmm...maybe so, but I tend to think that theory 1 is more ridiculous than theory 2. 


If you found a TV in the middle of the woods would you say, "Wow, look what created itself!  Amazing!" 
OR
If you found a TV in the middle of the woods would you say, "Someone had to have made that TV, how did it get here."

We know that the TV did not create itself simply by looking at the complexity of the TV.  Someone had to have designed it.  This world is infinitely more complex than a TV, yet the fool will say there is no Designer. 


chill out bro it aint that serious. happy new years.
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: dr.chimps on December 31, 2009, 12:16:31 PM
my ex wife believed  what is actually the scariest thing to me which is when we die   "thats it were gone we r dust over n dune"  to me not exsisting is the hardest thing to wrap around not heaven n helll,, n good n evil,, just if it is simple science ,,   u die ur dead thats it!!   scary thought dont ya think?? that is the worst case scenario??
This isn't a stupid question(s). The human brain is wired in such a way that it is very, very hard for it to ponder it's own non-existence. Very interesting stuff. Lotsa real smart people out there trying think this one out. 
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: MadCroc29 on December 31, 2009, 03:42:51 PM
Yes.


1.  If you believe that we die and are "non-existant" ...that is your religion...it is religion and based on faith because you  cannot prove it.

2.  If you believe that we die and goto "heaven or hell"...that is also based on faith because none of us has died and can say for certain we know what happens. 

One is ridiculous and the other is not?  Hmmm...maybe so, but I tend to think that theory 1 is more ridiculous than theory 2. 


If you found a TV in the middle of the woods would you say, "Wow, look what created itself!  Amazing!" 
OR
If you found a TV in the middle of the woods would you say, "Someone had to have made that TV, how did it get here."

We know that the TV did not create itself simply by looking at the complexity of the TV.  Someone had to have designed it.  This world is infinitely more complex than a TV, yet the fool will say there is no Designer. 



its called evolution wow there is your answer...what is the point in heaven and hell and human life if you believe in most organized religions that are basically based on living to die
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: gordiano on December 31, 2009, 03:48:34 PM
Yes.


1.  If you believe that we die and are "non-existant" ...that is your religion...it is religion and based on faith because you  cannot prove it.

2.  If you believe that we die and goto "heaven or hell"...that is also based on faith because none of us has died and can say for certain we know what happens. 

One is ridiculous and the other is not?  Hmmm...maybe so, but I tend to think that theory 1 is more ridiculous than theory 2. 


If you found a TV in the middle of the woods would you say, "Wow, look what created itself!  Amazing!" 
OR
If you found a TV in the middle of the woods would you say, "Someone had to have made that TV, how did it get here."

We know that the TV did not create itself simply by looking at the complexity of the TV.  Someone had to have designed it.  This world is infinitely more complex than a TV, yet the fool will say there is no Designer. 



So who designed the "designer"?
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Butterbean on December 31, 2009, 04:20:53 PM
my ex wife believed  what is actually the scariest thing to me which is when we die   "thats it were gone we r dust over n dune"  to me not exsisting is the hardest thing to wrap around not heaven n helll,, n good n evil,, just if it is simple science ,,   u die ur dead thats it!!   scary thought dont ya think?? that is the worst case scenario??

Not imo.  I would think ceasing to exist would be infinitely more preferable than eternity in hell.
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: HTexan on December 31, 2009, 04:54:42 PM
Yes.


1.  If you believe that we die and are "non-existant" ...that is your religion...it is religion and based on faith because you  cannot prove it.

2.  If you believe that we die and goto "heaven or hell"...that is also based on faith because none of us has died and can say for certain we know what happens. 

One is ridiculous and the other is not?  Hmmm...maybe so, but I tend to think that theory 1 is more ridiculous than theory 2. 


If you found a TV in the middle of the woods would you say, "Wow, look what created itself!  Amazing!" 
OR
If you found a TV in the middle of the woods would you say, "Someone had to have made that TV, how did it get here."

We know that the TV did not create itself simply by looking at the complexity of the TV.  Someone had to have designed it.  This world is infinitely more complex than a TV, yet the fool will say there is no Designer. 


why do you think a person's soul is the size of their whole body? It couldn't a soul be the size of a pea?
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 31, 2009, 04:56:33 PM
watch :event horizon

Awesome movie!  personally  rate it right up there with army of darkness

Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: uberman09 on December 31, 2009, 07:47:39 PM
newsflash: when you die, you die, that's all.

If you dont have kids sharing parts of your DNA surviving after your death, you basically somewhat entirely disapear. If youd idnt talk, teach anything to anyone, your thoughts and values dont survive either, you dont even stay into someone's mind after your death. You can only exist after your death by transmiting your dna or values, advices etc to some people you knew before dying.

Well, in fact you feed worms and keep "existing" as disipating gas or matter when you think about it. But your mind only keeps existing in your children if you have any.

What is the closest thing to being immortal? having kids and grandkids. We still havent done much better.
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: WillGrant on December 31, 2009, 07:52:56 PM
...Pluto was discovered to be Hell. And when NASA does their fly by there in 2015, we would get's a glimpse into this macabre reality.

What a disturbing realization and jolt of reality it would be if that was to happen.
Bro you eatting shrooms? ???
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: uberman09 on December 31, 2009, 07:53:56 PM
Bro you eatting shrooms? ???

nah he s just dumb and impressionable (watch too much movies) like most young people nowadays.
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Spoony Luv on December 31, 2009, 09:26:22 PM
More evidence is coming forward that for as long as earth has existed(billions of years) there have been countless "advanced" civilizations that have come and gone...Many have moved onto other planets and many have died off through war/natural disasters ect...Right now if we had an all out nuclear war that killed billions of people, there are hundreds of thousands already living below the earths crust to move forward...And the truth is, these people living below sea level in hollowed out mountains have all the technology and the mindset to really push human evolution along...If you think that wild, some people believe that Obama and his wife were a Egyptian King and Queen from the past sent here to continue a plan that was in place a long long time ago...
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: uberman09 on December 31, 2009, 09:34:43 PM
More evidence is coming forward that for as long as earth has existed(billions of years) there have been countless "advanced" civilizations that have come and gone...Many have moved onto other planets and many have died off through war/natural disasters ect...Right now if we had an all out nuclear war that killed billions of people, there are hundreds of thousands already living below the earths crust to move forward...And the truth is, these people living below sea level in hollowed out mountains have all the technology and the mindset to really push human evolution along...If you think that wild, some people believe that Obama and his wife were a Egyptian King and Queen from the past sent here to continue a plan that was in place a long long time ago...

(http://www.freewebs.com/retardradio/retard.jpg)
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: gordiano on December 31, 2009, 09:36:22 PM
(http://www.freewebs.com/retardradio/retard.jpg)


HAHAHAAH!
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: MadCroc29 on December 31, 2009, 10:56:59 PM

i love how the above guy uses his religion as his answer and says "there is your answer".  Evolution is a RELIGION.  small variations among kinds is observable, scientific, and true....the type of evolution you are referring to (macro evolution) cannot be observed, is based on science fiction, and has not one shred of evidence to prove its true.  it is based on FAITH, just like other religions.  yet people blindly follow evolution because they refuse to believe in creation.  both are based on faith.  both are religious.  you believe in the beginning "Dirt"....i believe in the beginning "God".  You tell me which one is dumber...

it is a theory based on observations just like you can actually see the universe expanding...if god created everything at once why would it be this way?....im not claiming to know the answers that no1 can possibly know for sure but most people's idea of what "god" is, is most likely inaccurate if there is one....what religion are you anyway?
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: 240 is Back on December 31, 2009, 11:01:09 PM
str8 outta Locash.  A crazy MFer named Gusto.
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: arce1988 on December 31, 2009, 11:40:15 PM
 lmmfao
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: MadCroc29 on January 01, 2010, 01:50:20 PM
no one has ever observed "macro evolution".  if we all came from a big bang, why do planets and even moons spins different directions?  The law of angular momentum says that whena  spinning object explodes, then the pieces thatbreak off will spin in that direction as they fly apart.  Yet many moons and planets do not spin the same way.  In fact, some whole galaxies spin backwards.  

If a person were to say...I  believe in the big bang.  then you must ask...what was "in the beginning?"  they will say that all the matter in the world was condensed into a dot about the size of a period...and it was spinning, and going faster and faster and then "BANG"....here we are.
Where did the matter come from?
Where did the energy to run that magical dot come from?

Okay, someone else says, In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.  
You will ask where did God come from?

So one theory has to explain in the beginning DIRT, and the other in the beginning GOD.  Of course if it is true that God created all of this, then he wouldnt need to exist inside of time space and matter like we do.  in fact, we know he doesnt by the first verse in the Bible.

Genesis 1:1  "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

Time (beginning), Space (heaven), Matter (earth).  He created all three in the first verse of the Bible.  If he created all three, then he must by necessity exist outside of these parameters.  So to ask "When" was God created is not a logical question because he did not exist in "time"....He created time.  Our brains havea  hard time understanding this because WE exist in time, so we think that everything else MUST exist in time, but that is not true for the being who created time.



you never answered what religion you are? big bang would mean everything is the same...but the theory that a being "god" created the universe would be more likely

the bible was written by men who had a very poor understanding of science and the universe but yet you take it as truth fact and history...who created the being that created everything? it must have come from somewhere....im not saying i dont believe that there may be a god but none of us can really know for sure like you do unless you are Him

Who are we to say that the laws that we observe are  true for the entire universe ...and yes it is impossible to observe marco evolution but you can hypothesize it based on things we can observe ....i guess the universe is really only 10,000 years old and poeple lived with dinosaurs too huh  ::)
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 01, 2010, 02:04:53 PM
my ex wife believed  what is actually the scariest thing to me which is when we die   "thats it were gone we r dust over n dune"  to me not exsisting is the hardest thing to wrap around not heaven n helll,, n good n evil,, just if it is simple science ,,   u die ur dead thats it!!   scary thought dont ya think?? that is the worst case scenario??

I think that's a huge relief. Or would you like to live forever you wanted or not?
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 01, 2010, 02:09:52 PM
PRAY DO TELL HOW YOU KNOW SUCH THINGS?  you have died before?   you have a knowledge of the afterlife that we do not?  you just "feel" you are right...therefore you must be? 

please refrain from stating that you know truth, when in fact you are just passing out your ignorant opinion. 

Sigh. We are nothing special. We are apes with a little bit bigger brain. Get fucking used to it. When we die, our brain just shuts off. That's it.
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: MadCroc29 on January 01, 2010, 03:30:06 PM
i answered the bold statement above with the explanation on time... God doesn't need to be created b/c he created time.  He has no beginning, and no end.  hard to grasp for us though because our universe is based on time, and so are we.

macro evolution cannot be observed.

the earth may very well be only about 6,000 to 10,000 years old.  I dont know.  as far as people living with dinosaurs, i would believe so.  they have petrified remains and fossils of dragonflies with 3 foot wingspans, lots and lots of people who were 12' tall, and many other "giants".  i would guesst that at one poitn, evertyhgin was bigger.  could be something to do with the atmospheric pressure and oxygen.  kind of like a hyperbaric chamber if you would.  it would make everything grow bigger.  if everything was bigger, dinosaurs would not have seemed quite so dangerous back then. 

you read in grade school that the earth is "billions of years old"...that "dinosaurs existed before man" etc. etc. etc....and you BLINDLY believe it and think that youare being scientific.  no one can prove those theories, there is no evidence to support them, yet you blindly follow them and think you are wiser tahn those that believe in God.  you will believe your grade school book like it is your Bible, yet you scoff at those who actually believe the Bible.  kind of hypocritical if you ask me. 

not to say i blame most people for believing everythign they learn in grade school...tehy practically brainwash it into the youth these days and it is just "accepted" without question.  if you would examine your own beliefs with the same critical eye that you place on those that believe the Bible, you may find that what you believe is even more crazy. 





the Vatican even says the bible is not a science or history book to be taken literally...and people lived to be 900 years old too! hahahaha yea science is a crock of shit and none of it has been proven ....yes your religion is 100% right everyone else including science is wrong and all those who don't believe in jesus will suffer gods wrath... ::)
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 01, 2010, 03:31:48 PM
ignorant opinion based on.....NOTHING.  yet you are willing to believe it, because you want to believe it.  

Observe the world, idiot.

Afterlife - god's last hiding place.

Thank you, science. Lets get rid of these fuckers with reason.
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: dr.chimps on January 01, 2010, 04:09:11 PM
notice the "namecalling"

Then the sarcasm

Then the ignorant statement based on nothingness.

i find that those that protest the most to Creation, are those that know the least.  their ignorance is shown in how they try to argue...
Ok, Einstein. Prepare to be disappointed.  ;)
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: big L dawg on January 01, 2010, 04:11:18 PM
back up what you say?

give proof?

prove that you are not just ignorantly spewing out your own opinion?





i know you have none, yet you seem to think you do.  search hard my friend. 



ALSO:  just so that others see the ignorance here.  when a person cannot win an argument based on FACTS....then they will resort to name calling, trying to undermine what someone says by the character of the person, they will say "well everyone else says its true so it must be", etc. etc. etc.   if you want to prove soemthing, then PROVE IT WITH FACTS



weres your proof?a book?please.....
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: MadCroc29 on January 01, 2010, 04:26:19 PM
back up what you say?

give proof?

prove that you are not just ignorantly spewing out your own opinion?





i know you have none, yet you seem to think you do.  search hard my friend.  



ALSO:  just so that others see the ignorance here.  when a person cannot win an argument based on FACTS....then they will resort to name calling, trying to undermine what someone says by the character of the person, they will say "well everyone else says its true so it must be", etc. etc. etc.   if you want to prove soemthing, then PROVE IT WITH FACTS





science is based on facts...your religion is not it is based on faith...funny how you ask me to back up what i say with facts

im not trying to win any argument either believe what you want to believe...

maybe you are the one who needs to do some research
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: WingedLion on January 01, 2010, 04:36:03 PM
This isn't a stupid question(s). The human brain is wired in such a way that it is very, very hard for it to ponder it's own non-existence. Very interesting stuff. Lotsa real smart people out there trying think this one out. 
:D

I just burst out laughing imagining a meathead dumb as rocks as yourself tryin' to wrap it's only neuron around the secrets of Creation lol
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: andreisdaman on January 01, 2010, 05:15:02 PM
I think the biggest jolt to society would be if they discovered that God was black....it would be life-altering for every person on earth...white racism would disappear the next day :)
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Post by: dr.chimps on January 01, 2010, 05:16:32 PM
:D

I just burst out laughing imagining a meathead dumb as rocks as yourself tryin' to wrap it's only neuron around the secrets of Creation lol
Psst. You're trying way too hard.  ;)
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: NCNPC29 on January 01, 2010, 06:06:57 PM
PRAY DO TELL HOW YOU KNOW SUCH THINGS?  you have died before?   you have a knowledge of the afterlife that we do not?  you just "feel" you are right...therefore you must be? 

please refrain from stating that you know truth, when in fact you are just passing out your ignorant opinion. 

Pot meet kettle... So let me get this straight. He is passing out his ignorant opinion b/c he has not experienced death to make that type of statement to definitively know the outcome yet you know it's only ignorant opinion how exactly? Knock, knock...who's there...mensa
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Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 01, 2010, 08:40:40 PM
notice the "namecalling"

Then the sarcasm

Then the ignorant statement based on nothingness.




i find that those that protest the most to Creation, are those that know the least.  their ignorance is shown in how they try to argue...

Give me reasons why we humans are different to any animal and I bust 'em all.
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Post by: gordiano on January 01, 2010, 09:13:19 PM
i answered the bold statement above with the explanation on time... God doesn't need to be created b/c he created time.  He has no beginning, and no end.  hard to grasp for us though because our universe is based on time, and so are we.

macro evolution cannot be observed.

the earth may very well be only about 6,000 to 10,000 years old.  I dont know.  as far as people living with dinosaurs, i would believe so.  they have petrified remains and fossils of dragonflies with 3 foot wingspans, lots and lots of people who were 12' tall, and many other "giants".  i would guesst that at one poitn, evertyhgin was bigger.  could be something to do with the atmospheric pressure and oxygen.  kind of like a hyperbaric chamber if you would.  it would make everything grow bigger.  if everything was bigger, dinosaurs would not have seemed quite so dangerous back then. 

you read in grade school that the earth is "billions of years old"...that "dinosaurs existed before man" etc. etc. etc....and you BLINDLY believe it and think that youare being scientific.  no one can prove those theories, there is no evidence to support them, yet you blindly follow them and think you are wiser tahn those that believe in God.  you will believe your grade school book like it is your Bible, yet you scoff at those who actually believe the Bible.  kind of hypocritical if you ask me. 

not to say i blame most people for believing everythign they learn in grade school...tehy practically brainwash it into the youth these days and it is just "accepted" without question.  if you would examine your own beliefs with the same critical eye that you place on those that believe the Bible, you may find that what you believe is even more crazy. 






Are you related to Sarah Palin, by any chance? And yes, men did co-exist with Dinosaurs......in the Flintstones.  :-\
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Post by: gordiano on January 01, 2010, 10:15:38 PM
i dont think "religion" is important...i think Who you believe in, and what you believe in IS important.  most religions today are just after your money.  i dont trust them, nor do i believe most of the lies taht they spread. 

that being said, i believe the Bible.  I believe in Jesus, and I believe he is the only way to heaven. 

some may laugh, others will be conceited and think they are being "scientific" by not believing the Bible, but when you put there ideas to the test, you realize they are nothing but fairly tales that tehy have chosen to blindly follow.
 


I don't where to begin with this.....but the irony, is strong within this post.
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Post by: che on January 01, 2010, 10:27:38 PM

Are you related to Sarah Palin, by any chance? And yes, men did co-exist with Dinosaurs......in the Flintstones.  :-\

 ;D
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Post by: che on January 01, 2010, 10:39:58 PM
sarcasm
name calling
and your opinions without any shred of proof


as i said before, those that cant argue their points resort to other methods to make them "feel" liek they are winning.

birds of a feather flock together as well.  all of the others jump on the bandwagon to assure themselves that they are right. 


im through posting on the topic.  let me know what you think after you die. 


What do you mean when you say  ,Jesus  is the only way to heaven
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Post by: Flexb on January 01, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
If it is straight out of Tardarus, then explain why I never heard of it. This leads me to believe this information is probably inherited within us, some type of shattered divine interdenominational remnants of a divine astral library with old knowledge, that you can meditate and gain access too if that is you quest, from when there was only one unity. Oddly enough, like the Ancient Greeks that apparently had access to, and wrote of this, I lately replaced cheap oil use with the use of some very fine olive oil instead. Could be a part of gaining this access. And water, think of massive quantities of water, like cosmic superstructures of water.

That's some pretty deep thought there. But why Pluto hell? And where's heaven?
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Post by: bigdumbbell on January 01, 2010, 11:52:26 PM

Are you related to Sarah Palin, by any chance? And yes, men did co-exist with Dinosaurs......in the Flintstones.  :-\
getbig classic!
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Post by: Captain Equipoise on January 02, 2010, 12:06:28 AM
i answered the bold statement above with the explanation on time... God doesn't need to be created b/c he created time.  He has no beginning, and no end.  hard to grasp for us though because our universe is based on time, and so are we.

macro evolution cannot be observed.

the earth may very well be only about 6,000 to 10,000 years old.  I dont know.  as far as people living with dinosaurs, i would believe so.  they have petrified remains and fossils of dragonflies with 3 foot wingspans, lots and lots of people who were 12' tall, and many other "giants".  i would guesst that at one poitn, evertyhgin was bigger.  could be something to do with the atmospheric pressure and oxygen.  kind of like a hyperbaric chamber if you would.  it would make everything grow bigger.  if everything was bigger, dinosaurs would not have seemed quite so dangerous back then. 

you read in grade school that the earth is "billions of years old"...that "dinosaurs existed before man" etc. etc. etc....and you BLINDLY believe it and think that youare being scientific.  no one can prove those theories, there is no evidence to support them, yet you blindly follow them and think you are wiser tahn those that believe in God.  you will believe your grade school book like it is your Bible, yet you scoff at those who actually believe the Bible.  kind of hypocritical if you ask me. 

not to say i blame most people for believing everythign they learn in grade school...tehy practically brainwash it into the youth these days and it is just "accepted" without question.  if you would examine your own beliefs with the same critical eye that you place on those that believe the Bible, you may find that what you believe is even more crazy. 





The bible is a bunch of fairy tales and fantasy written by a bunch of idiots that didn't know how to explain the world around them (ie. floods, storms, lightning, atmospheric conditions, etc.) so they made up a 'god' that was responsible all this. They also did not know how to answer the question of their existence and conception (basic human reproduction) so again, here came this magical 'god' that had the answers through 'faith'  LOL...

and LOLOL @ the earth being 10,000 years old.. thankfully scientists and carbon dating procedures prove idiots like you wrong.
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Post by: Saxon on January 02, 2010, 12:27:39 AM
The bible is a bunch of fairy tales and fantasy written by a bunch of idiots that didn't know how to explain the world around them (ie. floods, storms, lightning, atmospheric conditions, etc.) so they made up a 'god' that was responsible all this. They also did not know how to answer the question of their existence and conception (basic human reproduction) so again, here came this magical 'god' that had the answers through 'faith'  LOL...

and LOLOL @ the earth being 10,000 years old.. thankfully scientists and carbon dating procedures prove idiots like you wrong.


Don't mention carbon dating to a bible literalist...cue ten page essay on why science is wrong!!!
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Post by: gordiano on January 02, 2010, 01:06:17 AM
The bible is a bunch of fairy tales and fantasy written by a bunch of idiots that didn't know how to explain the world around them (ie. floods, storms, lightning, atmospheric conditions, etc.) so they made up a 'god' that was responsible all this. They also did not know how to answer the question of their existence and conception (basic human reproduction) so again, here came this magical 'god' that had the answers through 'faith'  LOL...

and LOLOL @ the earth being 10,000 years old.. thankfully scientists and carbon dating procedures prove idiots like you wrong.


What's even sadder, is that the "Bible" isn't even an original book of fairy tales. They were fucking stolen from other religions/beliefs.  :-\
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Post by: Captain Equipoise on January 02, 2010, 01:13:10 AM
What's even sadder, is that the "Bible" isn't even an original book of fairy tales. They were fucking stolen from other religions/beliefs.  :-\

Exactly, so much of it is based on Egyptian gods and myths...hell even the cross is a ripoff of the Ankh.. lol
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Post by: big L dawg on January 02, 2010, 02:24:24 PM






simply huge wants us to spend all this time reading his bible that has plagiarized earlier religions yet I guarantee you he wont take 25 minutes of time to watch these videos....
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Post by: NCNPC29 on January 02, 2010, 03:43:48 PM






simply huge wants us to spend all this time reading his bible that has been plagiarized by earlier religions yet I guarantee you he wont take 25 minutes of time to watch these videos....

It’s both incomprehensible and frightening beyond imagination the amount of people that believe in religion. To utilize these stories as positive guidelines and lessons for living an enriched life is one thing but to believe the stories related to religion are anything more than fictional literature is simply insane.
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Post by: Kwon on January 02, 2010, 06:18:19 PM
More evidence is coming forward that for as long as earth has existed(billions of years) there have been countless "advanced" civilizations that have come and gone...Many have moved onto other planets and many have died off through war/natural disasters ect...Right now if we had an all out nuclear war that killed billions of people, there are hundreds of thousands already living below the earths crust to move forward...And the truth is, these people living below sea level in hollowed out mountains have all the technology and the mindset to really push human evolution along...If you think that wild, some people believe that Obama and his wife were a Egyptian King and Queen from the past sent here to continue a plan that was in place a long long time ago...

LOL wut?

First we have Johnny Falcon with his Reptilians from Nibiru and now YOU with your Doppelgangers living under the crust of the Earth? :D

What's next, bodybuilders from Dubai, India???
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Post by: big L dawg on January 09, 2010, 04:50:38 PM
well....can't say I didnt call it....
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Post by: Parker on January 09, 2010, 05:13:13 PM
Exactly, so much of it is based on Egyptian gods and myths...hell even the cross is a ripoff of the Ankh.. lol

Actually the cross, representing the crucifix that Jesus was on may just be incorrect. The Romans tended to use a "T" crucifix instead of the "t" crucifix, because the latter was heavier and in two pieces, and the former was lighter and easier to erect.
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 09, 2010, 07:29:02 PM
It’s both incomprehensible and frightening beyond imagination the amount of people that believe in religion.

90% or something of Earth's population? Makes you think doesn't it.  :-\
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Post by: Tapeworm on January 09, 2010, 08:33:43 PM
Deep thoughts, Edison Carter.
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Post by: gordiano on January 09, 2010, 08:38:47 PM
It’s both incomprehensible and frightening beyond imagination the amount of people that believe in religion. To utilize these stories as positive guidelines and lessons for living an enriched life is one thing but to believe the stories related to religion are anything more than fictional literature is simply insane.

I often refer to religion, as the greatest scam EVER pulled. Imagine having/holding that much power over millions to billions of people....whatever you want; money, power, anything you can think of....at your grasp.
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Post by: che on January 09, 2010, 08:56:34 PM
I often refer to religion, as the greatest scam EVER pulled. Imagine having/holding that much power over millions to billions of people....whatever you want; money, power, anything you can think of....at your grasp.
Exactly
 Every religion attempts to invent a god, and every religion claims to know who god is and what his intentions are. The truth is that every god of every religion was simply made up...by humans. Some type of higher power MAY have started the universe, but no one knows anything about that higher power, or if it exists at all. Leaders and followers of religions are are all posers - claiming to know everything, but actually knowing nothing.
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Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 09, 2010, 09:05:06 PM
How may consciousness arise again?

One of many thoughts I have on this matter is that as time progresses, computers get so powerful to the point that your DNA may be analysed (post death) by a computer, and you and your consciousness can be recreated within the computer in a virtual world from the information that is contain in your DNA. You will be a silicon based lifeform now in this simulation instead of a carbon one. God in this case would be the computer operater.

I think this theory is probably implausible.

Also scary isn't it. You couldn't get "peace" (sorry bad word maybe) even if you wanted...
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Post by: Parker on January 09, 2010, 10:06:35 PM
All you haterz and Doubterz, Great Almighty gonna come down from the sky and wipe you all off the face of the earth. And since I'm a believer, I won't harmed. I'll just watch and shake my head.

On the real, What religion has told us all, I firmly believe is incorrect. I also believe that human beings have a "worship complex", where we worship anything that is more powerful than us. Be it Human or inhuman, Natural phenomenon or made up. 
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Post by: The Showstoppa on January 09, 2010, 10:17:13 PM
On the real, What religion has told us all, I firmly believe is incorrect. I also believe that human beings have a "worship complex", where we worship anything that is more powerful than us. Be it Human or inhuman, Natural phenomenon or made up. 

Just like many worship science or intelligence.  I find it laughable that anyone thinks they have ALL the answers....regardless of their position.  The amount of "knowledge" we have is pathetic at best.
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Post by: Parker on January 09, 2010, 10:38:35 PM
Just like many worship science or intelligence.  I find it laughable that anyone thinks they have ALL the answers....regardless of their position.  The amount of "knowledge" we have is pathetic at best.
And the amount of knowledge we can gain if we took out own personal, racial, religious egos  of the equation is astronomical.
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Post by: The Showstoppa on January 09, 2010, 10:40:12 PM
And the amount of knowledge we can gain if we took out own personal, racial, religious egos  of the equation is astronomical.

but man oh man, stand up comedy would suck..... ;D
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Post by: gordiano on January 09, 2010, 10:40:47 PM
Exactly
 Every religion attempts to invent a god, and every religion claims to know who god is and what his intentions are. The truth is that every god of every religion was simply made up...by humans. Some type of higher power MAY have started the universe, but no one knows anything about that higher power, or if it exists at all. Leaders and followers of religions are are all posers - claiming to know everything, but actually knowing nothing.

Well said. And let me say, that there may be a "higher power", I don't know. However, I refuse to believe in a "higher power" invented by men. Which is what religion gives us. I was telling someone the other day, maybe we are god. Creation is god. In that sense, "god" is all around us.

I also agree with Showstoppa, we don't have all the answers. In the scope of things, we don't know shit.  :-\
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Post by: no one on January 09, 2010, 10:59:39 PM
back up what you say?

give proof?

prove that you are not just ignorantly spewing out your own opinion?





i know you have none, yet you seem to think you do.  search hard my friend.  



ALSO:  just so that others see the ignorance here. when a person cannot win an argument based on FACTS....then they will resort to name calling, trying to undermine what someone says by the character of the person, they will say "well everyone else says its true so it must be", etc. etc. etc.  if you want to prove soemthing, then PROVE IT WITH FACTS


what is your 'proof'?

where are your 'facts'?

the bible? the bible is considered as much a book of fiction as any other by a majority of the worlds population. just because you choose to believe what is written in it doens't make its contents factual.

just the fact you believe hell is in the center of the earth is enough to make anyone dismiss your opinion on the basis of being less than sensical.

and furthermore explain this:


even so, the point is that the inside of the earth has much more room than the surface area of the earth.



how is this so when the 'inside of the earth' is encompassed by its 'surface area'.

i'm enjoying your slide into the land of dementia with each passing post.

please carry on.
Title: Re: What a severely disturbing discovery for the human race it would be if...
Post by: Kwon on January 09, 2010, 11:40:39 PM
When you die, you will be transported into Limbo for a period of time that feels like hundred of years.

Only thing you will see during this time is the vision and manifestation of the holy Jonah Falcon.

After this period of time, you will be reborn.

This period of time will feel longer / shorter depending on how you regard Jonah Falcon before passing.
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Post by: WillGrant on January 09, 2010, 11:43:32 PM
RISE SIR JOH-NAY FAILCON
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Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 10, 2010, 12:32:40 AM
i have not stated that i am RIGHT.  i have simply pointed out that both sides ARE religious. 

Fuck you and your whole family.