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BWAHAHAQHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH AHAHAHAAA
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1217
National GOP leaders are doing damage control today after a Politico scoop lifted the curtain on the party's plan to tap voters' "fear" in the coming campaign season. The PR problem started when an absent-minded attendee at the Republican National Committee (RNC) confab on February 18 in Boca Grande, Florida, left a 72-page document from its 2010 strategizing session in a hotel room. Today, Politico reporter Ben Smith's expose is making headlines.
The memo tracks the fundraising presentation that RNC Finance Director Rob Bickhart delivered to the RNC's $2,500-a-head annual retreat. The best path to victory in 2010, the document advises, is for Republican candidates to depict themselves as the best hope for resisting the "trending toward socialism" taking shape in a Democrat-dominated Washington.
And the document doesn't shy from making its points graphically. MSNBC showed the images this morning on "Morning Joe":
The presentation portrays the Obama administration as "The Evil Empire," including the now-infamous image of President Obama made over in the makeup Heath Ledger used in his performance as the Joker in the 2008 Batman movie "The Dark Knight." House Speaker Nancy Pelosi appears as Cruella De Vil from "101 Dalmatians," and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is the witless cartoon dog Scooby-Doo. The memo candidly confirms that the aim of such caricature is to amp up "fear" among the GOP's conservative base. The memo also makes fun of major RNC donors, categorizing some as "ego-driven" and easily pacified with "tchochkes" (a Slavic word for toys).
The embrace of harsh rhetoric and the swipes at the large donor set seem to signal the GOP establishment's growing comfort with employing tactics associated with the activist Tea Party movement—and with plying Tea Party sympathizers for cash. Of course, it isn't unusual for parties out of power to court controversy and play with fire to rile up donors and grass-roots activists. The RNC has caught heat for fundraising tactics in the past, most recently when it was caught sending out fake census forms to raise money. And Democrats have shown a demagogic streak in the past, depicting George W. Bush and Dick Cheney as Bond-like supervillains and playing up alleged GOP plans to kill Social Security to rally voters behind a popular entitlement program.
When asked by Yahoo! News if the leaked presentation reflects a coordinated effort to appeal more to the Tea Party movement, RNC spokesman Doug Heye replied that the group's chairman, Michael Steele, "was recently invited by Tea Party activists to a meeting, which he was happy to do. Following the meeting, it was clear those in the meeting shared a common goal: stopping the Obama/Pelosi/Reid agenda." As for plans to further that alliance with the inflammatory material in the memo, Heye reiterated what he'd told Politico earlier: "The language and the imagery will not be used in any capacity in the future."
There's no question that the Obama-as-Joker image—long a familiar icon at Tea Party rallies—is a toxic association for the GOP establishment. Oddly enough, though, that image's origins can be traced to the activist left. As revealed by the Los Angeles Times last year, the image was created by a supporter of Rep. Dennis Kucinich, a University of Illinois student named Firas Alkhateeb, who told the Times that he uploaded the photo onto his Flickr page, and a conservative activist promptly snatched it up.
Such are the odd convergences of movement politics. However, the RNC may have more trouble distancing itself from the equation of Democratic policy with socialism, however, since Michael Steele is credited with originating that meme in the health care debate.
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I'm sure there are plenty of examples of the democrats printing and distributing similar literature from the top levels of leadership, as we see here.
Somebody please post them. Thanks!
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The memo candidly confirms that the aim of such caricature is to amp up "fear" among the GOP's conservative base. The memo also makes fun of major RNC donors, categorizing some as "ego-driven" and easily pacified with "tchochkes" (a Slavic word for toys).
When you bite the hand that feeds ya..................
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BWAHAHAQHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1217
National GOP leaders are doing damage control today after a Politico scoop lifted the curtain on the party's plan to tap voters' "fear" in the coming campaign season. The PR problem started when an absent-minded attendee at the Republican National Committee (RNC) confab on February 18 in Boca Grande, Florida, left a 72-page document from its 2010 strategizing session in a hotel room. Today, Politico reporter Ben Smith's expose is making headlines.
The memo tracks the fundraising presentation that RNC Finance Director Rob Bickhart delivered to the RNC's $2,500-a-head annual retreat. The best path to victory in 2010, the document advises, is for Republican candidates to depict themselves as the best hope for resisting the "trending toward socialism" taking shape in a Democrat-dominated Washington.
And the document doesn't shy from making its points graphically. MSNBC showed the images this morning on "Morning Joe":
The presentation portrays the Obama administration as "The Evil Empire," including the now-infamous image of President Obama made over in the makeup Heath Ledger used in his performance as the Joker in the 2008 Batman movie "The Dark Knight." House Speaker Nancy Pelosi appears as Cruella De Vil from "101 Dalmatians," and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is the witless cartoon dog Scooby-Doo. The memo candidly confirms that the aim of such caricature is to amp up "fear" among the GOP's conservative base. The memo also makes fun of major RNC donors, categorizing some as "ego-driven" and easily pacified with "tchochkes" (a Slavic word for toys).
The embrace of harsh rhetoric and the swipes at the large donor set seem to signal the GOP establishment's growing comfort with employing tactics associated with the activist Tea Party movement—and with plying Tea Party sympathizers for cash. Of course, it isn't unusual for parties out of power to court controversy and play with fire to rile up donors and grass-roots activists. The RNC has caught heat for fundraising tactics in the past, most recently when it was caught sending out fake census forms to raise money. And Democrats have shown a demagogic streak in the past, depicting George W. Bush and Dick Cheney as Bond-like supervillains and playing up alleged GOP plans to kill Social Security to rally voters behind a popular entitlement program.
When asked by Yahoo! News if the leaked presentation reflects a coordinated effort to appeal more to the Tea Party movement, RNC spokesman Doug Heye replied that the group's chairman, Michael Steele, "was recently invited by Tea Party activists to a meeting, which he was happy to do. Following the meeting, it was clear those in the meeting shared a common goal: stopping the Obama/Pelosi/Reid agenda." As for plans to further that alliance with the inflammatory material in the memo, Heye reiterated what he'd told Politico earlier: "The language and the imagery will not be used in any capacity in the future."
There's no question that the Obama-as-Joker image—long a familiar icon at Tea Party rallies—is a toxic association for the GOP establishment. Oddly enough, though, that image's origins can be traced to the activist left. As revealed by the Los Angeles Times last year, the image was created by a supporter of Rep. Dennis Kucinich, a University of Illinois student named Firas Alkhateeb, who told the Times that he uploaded the photo onto his Flickr page, and a conservative activist promptly snatched it up.
Such are the odd convergences of movement politics. However, the RNC may have more trouble distancing itself from the equation of Democratic policy with socialism, however, since Michael Steele is credited with originating that meme in the health care debate.
How is that a "leak"? We've known the GOP's been planning such a strategy to do this for weeks. You're late to the party.....again.
Your fear is that such a strategy will be effective, and your previous claims of an indefinite Democratic hold on Washington go UP IN FLAMES in a matter of months.
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^^ Retard is posting again.
What part of the article title where it says "LEAKED" did you miss? Or did you just not read the original source?
Perhaps you should share your little observation with Yahoo News then? Hmmmm?
The surprising thing is that it was found in a hotel room and not in the typical Repub hangout of a public men's restroom stall.
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^^ Retard is posting again.
What part of the article title where it says "LEAKED" did you miss? Or did you just not read the original source?
Perhaps you should share your little observation with Yahoo News then? Hmmmm?
The surprising thing is that it was found in a hotel room and not in the typical Repub hangout of a public men's restroom stall.
Or Banery Franks' apartment.
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So the RNC's marketing department must consist of a seventh grader with a 6 year old Dell and dial up internet connection.
What is the purpose of including Scooby Doo on that ad? Does it imply using Scooby Snacks as the "tchochkes" to give the pea brain fear mongers once they get riled up? Maybe they should offer wealthy GOP donors butt plugs, adult diapers and Truck-Nutz instead.
The GOP obviously see incompetence as a selling point to their base. Nice Job!
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^^ Retard is posting again.
What part of the article title where it says "LEAKED" did you miss? Or did you just not read the original source?
Perhaps you should share your little observation with Yahoo News then? Hmmmm?
The surprising thing is that it was found in a hotel room and not in the typical Repub hangout of a public men's restroom stall.
You mean hotel rooms where Dems pay for whores and get pinched? OOPS!!!
Or in their offices where Dems "harrass" male staff workers, as part of the "most ethical Congress in history"?
Keep on yapping and thinking the Dems have Washington on lock.
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Steele and plenty of GOP operatives have come out criticizing this.
So defending it is pointless - the dems and repubs are publicly saying this kind of shit isn't necessary.
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Steele and plenty of GOP operatives have come out criticizing this.
So defending it is pointless - the dems and repubs are publicly saying this kind of shit isn't necessary.
its a non-issue meant to divert attention away from the rolling disaster that is the Maobama Admn.
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So the RNC's marketing department must consist of a seventh grader with a 6 year old Dell and dial up internet connection.
What is the purpose of including Scooby Doo on that ad? Does it imply using Scooby Snacks as the "tchochkes" to give the pea brain fear mongers once they get riled up? Maybe they should offer wealthy GOP donors butt plugs, adult diapers and Truck-Nutz instead.
The GOP obviously see incompetence as a selling point to their base. Nice Job!
So says the new candidate for Amber Lee Ettinger's "Obama Girl" gig, who keeps having to swallow the fact that the object of his lust (Harvard degree and all) can't tie his own shoe, even with a (one-time) supermajority in the Senate, a majority in the House, and news anchors eagerly bowing before him.
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the GOp put this out to protect obama?
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the GOp put this out to protect obama?
No, all the attention the left wing side show and their msm lemmings are giving to this.
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its a non-issue meant to divert attention away from the rolling disaster that is the Maobama Admn.
And, it ain't working.
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No, I meant like gay bars where GOP "Family Values" members hang out getting shafted up the ass in the back room.
Or the motel room where the members smoke pole and meth alternatively.
Or outside the kindergarten rooms where they lurk in their white vans. Maybe that is the point of including Scooby Doo in their crappy power point presentation. Who knows. They would certainly come off better by actually going into the school and learning something. Like say math for example.
That page 10 of 72 is hilarious: “raised a total of $81,255,000 million”
gee, those elitists claimed to have raised $81.255 trillion and they’re whining about Obama spending a measily $1 trillion?
Bunch of retards.
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I'm sure there are plenty of examples of the democrats printing and distributing similar literature from the top levels of leadership, as we see here.
Somebody please post them. Thanks!
240 - When Bush was president there were internet ads in 2004 claiming the republicans wanted to burn black baptist churches... ALthough if this "leak" is true it does no good for the Republicans. I agree. But this sort of thing goes on on both sides. Remember John "I was in Viet Nam" Kerry? What was his M.O.? That he was a vet Bush dodged the war, and he knows how to run a war. Meanwhile we find out Kerry was, um, let's say, a bit exaggerating his viet nam record a bit. Bush was a draft dodger so he automatically was unfit to serve us as president.
My how times have changed tho, right 240? Now that little pre-requisite is not important anymore for your side isn't it? Obama, some say he wasn't even born here, let alone a vet. I'm no "lifer" but I'm just saying... :P
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No, I meant like gay bars where GOP "Family Values" members hang out getting shafted up the ass in the back room.
Or the motel room where the members smoke pole and meth alternatively.
Or outside the kindergarten rooms where they lurk in their white vans. Maybe that is the point of including Scooby Doo in their crappy power point presentation. Who knows. They would certainly come off better by actually going into the school and learning something. Like say math for example.
That page 10 of 72 is hilarious: “raised a total of $81,255,000 million”
gee, those elitists claimed to have raised $81.255 trillion and they’re whining about Obama spending a measily $1 trillion?
Bunch of retards.
But at least they pay their taxes ... :o ;D
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Steele and plenty of GOP operatives have come out criticizing this.
Steele's reply = "Zoinks!"
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240 - When Bush was president there were internet ads in 2004 claiming the republicans wanted to burn black baptist churches... ALthough if this "leak" is true it does no good for the Republicans. I agree. But this sort of thing goes on on both sides. Remember John "I was in Viet Nam" Kerry? What was his M.O.? That he was a vet Bush dodged the war, and he knows how to run a war. Meanwhile we find out Kerry was, um, let's say, a bit exaggerating his viet nam record a bit. Bush was a draft dodger so he automatically was unfit to serve us as president.
My how times have changed tho, right 240? Now that little pre-requisite is not important anymore for your side isn't it? Obama, some say he wasn't even born here, let alone a vet. I'm no "lifer" but I'm just saying... :P
240 has a VERY selective memory.
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No, I meant like gay bars where GOP "Family Values" members hang out getting shafted up the ass in the back room.
Or, offices, where Dem "Family Values" members knock up staff members, while their wives battle cancer. Then, deny their bastard children for two years.
Or where they get their Brokeback on with staff members (while married with kids), then blubber about being a "Gay American".
Or the motel room where the members smoke pole and meth alternatively.
Or outside the kindergarten rooms where they lurk in their white vans. Maybe that is the point of including Scooby Doo in their crappy power point presentation. Who knows. They would certainly come off better by actually going into the school and learning something. Like say math for example.
That page 10 of 72 is hilarious: “raised a total of $81,255,000 million”
gee, those elitists claimed to have raised $81.255 trillion and they’re whining about Obama spending a measily $1 trillion?
Bunch of retards.
Yet, the Harvard grad, from whose nuts you can be separated only with the "Jaws of Life" is floundering before your very eyes, threatening to crush your claims of a indefinite Democratic lock on Washington into face-powder in a mere matter of month.
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Haha oh wow. The comments on the Politico story are fantastically well thought out, extensively researched, and intelligently argued. One such comment literally reads as follows: “Obama is a socialist. Ahhhhhh!!!!!!!”
I have no idea why this commenter orgasmed before he could finish writing his post. I’m roughly 60% certain that I don’t want to find out.
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Haha oh wow. The comments on the Politico story are fantastically well thought out, extensively researched, and intelligently argued. One such comment literally reads as follows: “Obama is a socialist. Ahhhhhh!!!!!!!”
I have no idea why this commenter orgasmed before he could finish writing his post. I’m roughly 60% certain that I don’t want to find out.
And none of this masks the fact that your beloved Obama is on the fast track to political doom, taking his party along with him.
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^^ Retard having a meltdown. Given the limit number of brain cells, it is a short melt.
RNC response = "Darn those meddling kids. We almost got away with it"
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This is some funny shit, I mean by listening to MSM you would think this document was written and hand delivered by satan himself.
Lets see
Repubs - Are racist, want old people to die, want children to starve.
Dems - Are socialist/communist, hate America
Guess what fear tactics have been around as long as politicans. Unfortunatly there is a large enoug segment that buys into this bullshit.
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Haha oh wow. The comments on the Politico story are fantastically well thought out, extensively researched, and intelligently argued. One such comment literally reads as follows: “Obama is a socialist. Ahhhhhh!!!!!!!”
I have no idea why this commenter orgasmed before he could finish writing his post. I’m roughly 60% certain that I don’t want to find out.
I wonder if the same person who "leaked" this was the same person who "leaked" Bush's draft records.... Remember that? Didn't work out to well for liberal communists like Dan Rather and CBS did it... But, Rather states it is true if only he could prove it!! Sounds like Al Gore has been hanging out with him.
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^^ Retard having a meltdown. Given the limit number of brain cells, it is a short melt.
RNC response = "Darn those meddling kids. We almost got away with it"
It appears you've found more of those mirrors again. Keep thinking that such silliness is going to save your dream of the Dems' long-term rule of Washington.
Just have the Kleenex on standby.
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written and hand delivered by satan himself.
Actually Satan would have gotten his spelling and math correct. And used the Obama witch doctor photo instead of some obscure Scooby Doo image.
No, this is obviously the work of The Onion.
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"What can you sell when you do not have the White House, the House, or the Senate…?”
I’ll give you a clue. It takes place in the men’s bathroom at the airport and rhymes with “No Job.”
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"What can you sell when you do not have the White House, the House, or the Senate…?”
I’ll give you a clue. It takes place in the men’s bathroom at the airport and rhymes with “No Job.”
You must have yanked that from 2005!!
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Look at this bullshit fear mongering poll/fundraiser.
https://www.supporttcc.org/civicrm/contribute/transact?reset=1&id=2&custom_14=TCP7NCHH&custom_15=e004p
The survey starts off with a photo showing our very serious President at prayer. So not even the haters think he’s a *Godless* commie — or they do, but they’re too stupid to illustrate their own web page with a picture that matches their message. Which would not surprise me at this point.
This is why the major donors and ex-repubs who still like balanced budgets need to form a new party. Let the retarded religious fruitcakes and the know-nothings and the racists tear each other to bits. No one will miss the Republican Party, any more than they miss the Whigs or Federalists.
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Look at this bullshit fear mongering poll/fundraiser.
https://www.supporttcc.org/civicrm/contribute/transact?reset=1&id=2&custom_14=TCP7NCHH&custom_15=e004p
The survey starts off with a photo showing our very serious President at prayer. So not even the haters think he’s a *Godless* commie — or they do, but they’re too stupid to illustrate their own web page with a picture that matches their message. Which would not surprise me at this point.
This is why the major donors and ex-repubs who still like balanced budgets need to form a new party. Let the retarded religious fruitcakes and the know-nothings and the racists tear each other to bits. No one will miss the Republican Party, any more than they miss the Whigs or Federalists.
Fear-mongering would be Obama's claim that the re-enactment of the Ten Plaques on Egypt would hit America, if his stupid stimulus plan wasn't passed like yesterday. We've all seen how much of a flop that was.
Again, keep on thinking that this gibberish is going to take attention from the impending beatings your Democrats are on track to receive. No one will miss the Republican party, because it's not going anywhere. It may be the MAJORITY PARTY (once again) this time next year.
Keep the Kleenex (along with the sackcloth and ashes) on the ready.
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^^ Perfect example of the reason that the religious right of the GOP and religion in general is dying out and declining each year.
Delusion fueled meltdowns are a bitch.
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^^ Perfect example of the reason that the religious right of the GOP and religion in general is dying out and declining each year.
Delusion fueled meltdowns are a bitch.
So says El Clucky, as he struggles to squeeze himself into Amber Lee's old booty shorts.
Pointing out that Obama's boneheaded stimulus ain't working has WHAT to do with the religious right again?
When faced with facts, Clucky does what he does best: Deflect, spout foolishness, then cower.
The religious right of the GOP isn't going anywhere. Neither is religion in general (notwithstanding the minor, O dopey one, that the current President and object of your lust is a PROFESSED CHRISTIAN).
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^^ Retard is posting again.
What part of the article title where it says "LEAKED" did you miss? Or did you just not read the original source?
Perhaps you should share your little observation with Yahoo News then? Hmmmm?
The surprising thing is that it was found in a hotel room and not in the typical Repub hangout of a public men's restroom stall.
Ouch!
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BWAHAHAQHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1217
National GOP leaders are doing damage control today after a Politico scoop lifted the curtain on the party's plan to tap voters' "fear" in the coming campaign season. The PR problem started when an absent-minded attendee at the Republican National Committee (RNC) confab on February 18 in Boca Grande, Florida, left a 72-page document from its 2010 strategizing session in a hotel room. Today, Politico reporter Ben Smith's expose is making headlines.
The memo tracks the fundraising presentation that RNC Finance Director Rob Bickhart delivered to the RNC's $2,500-a-head annual retreat. The best path to victory in 2010, the document advises, is for Republican candidates to depict themselves as the best hope for resisting the "trending toward socialism" taking shape in a Democrat-dominated Washington.
And the document doesn't shy from making its points graphically. MSNBC showed the images this morning on "Morning Joe":
The presentation portrays the Obama administration as "The Evil Empire," including the now-infamous image of President Obama made over in the makeup Heath Ledger used in his performance as the Joker in the 2008 Batman movie "The Dark Knight." House Speaker Nancy Pelosi appears as Cruella De Vil from "101 Dalmatians," and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is the witless cartoon dog Scooby-Doo. The memo candidly confirms that the aim of such caricature is to amp up "fear" among the GOP's conservative base. The memo also makes fun of major RNC donors, categorizing some as "ego-driven" and easily pacified with "tchochkes" (a Slavic word for toys).
The embrace of harsh rhetoric and the swipes at the large donor set seem to signal the GOP establishment's growing comfort with employing tactics associated with the activist Tea Party movement—and with plying Tea Party sympathizers for cash. Of course, it isn't unusual for parties out of power to court controversy and play with fire to rile up donors and grass-roots activists. The RNC has caught heat for fundraising tactics in the past, most recently when it was caught sending out fake census forms to raise money. And Democrats have shown a demagogic streak in the past, depicting George W. Bush and Dick Cheney as Bond-like supervillains and playing up alleged GOP plans to kill Social Security to rally voters behind a popular entitlement program.
When asked by Yahoo! News if the leaked presentation reflects a coordinated effort to appeal more to the Tea Party movement, RNC spokesman Doug Heye replied that the group's chairman, Michael Steele, "was recently invited by Tea Party activists to a meeting, which he was happy to do. Following the meeting, it was clear those in the meeting shared a common goal: stopping the Obama/Pelosi/Reid agenda." As for plans to further that alliance with the inflammatory material in the memo, Heye reiterated what he'd told Politico earlier: "The language and the imagery will not be used in any capacity in the future."
There's no question that the Obama-as-Joker image—long a familiar icon at Tea Party rallies—is a toxic association for the GOP establishment. Oddly enough, though, that image's origins can be traced to the activist left. As revealed by the Los Angeles Times last year, the image was created by a supporter of Rep. Dennis Kucinich, a University of Illinois student named Firas Alkhateeb, who told the Times that he uploaded the photo onto his Flickr page, and a conservative activist promptly snatched it up.
Such are the odd convergences of movement politics. However, the RNC may have more trouble distancing itself from the equation of Democratic policy with socialism, however, since Michael Steele is credited with originating that meme in the health care debate.
Everyone should be scared.First time ever an elected president is purposely trying to destroy the country.
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Ouch!
You liberals really don't want to go there with sex scandals, right about now.
Ain't that right, left-wing slaves?
Yes, MASSA!!
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Repubs outnumber the Dems when it comes to sex scandals and perverted behavior.
FACT!
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Repubs outnumber the Dems when it comes to sex scandals and perverted behavior.
FACT!
And my dad can kick your dad's ass... ???
Dude, your dems in house right are the most corrupt cabinet in the last 20 years. FACT.
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Repubs outnumber the Dems when it comes to sex scandals and perverted behavior.
FACT!
By what margin, 51-49?
The point is that YOUR party, because it's currently in power (for now), has the spotlight on it. That's much the same as the GOP back in 2006.
And all of this blubbering is to deflect from the fact that your party is heading to the woodshed (and apparently wants to take the express route). Therefore, your claims of indefinite Democratic domination in Washington is about to go up in smoke, due in no small part to the "stimulus" and this ObamaCare foolishness.
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Yeah, based on the Scooby Doo campaign strategy where they basically call their own member rubes, the GOP sure is going to build a momentum to carry them despite lacking a voice, a campaign, a message, and a platform.
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Is stupid programmed into your DNA or did you just practice at it until you reached this level?
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both sides are pieces of shit who are out for their own interests, not ours.
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both sides are pieces of shit who are out for their own interests, not ours.
QFT!
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I can't believe how blind you "dims" seem to be. LOL. Why can't you wake the f**k up? Keep on attacking... That's a good strategy. (you've had the WH and both houses for well over a year and things keep getting worse) What a bunch of lemmings.
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Yeah, based on the Scooby Doo campaign strategy where they basically call their own member rubes, the GOP sure is going to build a momentum to carry them despite lacking a voice, a campaign, a message, and a platform.
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Is stupid programmed into your DNA or did you just practice at it until you reached this level?
One, the Dems didn't have that in 2006. Yet, that didn't stop them from winning. All that needs to happen is enough people get enraged at the current party in power.
Two, the more buffoonery, proposed and enacted by the object of your lust, the more the GOP has a message: Putting a stop to such, countering the hijacking of healthcare, really focusing on jobs by reversing Obama's boneheaded stimulus (which failed at virtually every level), etc.
The Dems are succumbing to the same arrogance and scandal that plagued the GOP four years ago. And, they will likely suffer the same fate.
Plus, liberals claimed the GOP didn't have plans or ideas for healthcare. And, we all know how they got punked during Obama's PR summit. The GOP knew Obama's bill better than Obama did.
You keep thinking (like the brain-dead coward that you are) that posting this silliness is going to save the Dems from the beating that's heading their way.
Again, keep the Kleenex on the ready.
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One, the Dems didn't have that in 2006. Yet, that didn't stop them from winning. All that needs to happen is enough people get enraged at the current party in power.
Two, the more buffoonery, proposed and enacted by the object of your lust, the more the GOP has a message: Putting a stop to such, countering the hijacking of healthcare, really focusing on jobs by reversing Obama's boneheaded stimulus (which failed at virtually every level), etc.
The Dems are succumbing to the same arrogance and scandal that plagued the GOP four years ago. And, they will likely suffer the same fate.
Plus, liberals claimed the GOP didn't have plans or ideas for healthcare. And, we all know how they got punked during Obama's PR summit. The GOP knew Obama's bill better than Obama did.
You keep thinking (like the brain-dead coward that you are) that posting this silliness is going to save the Dems from the beating that's heading their way.
Again, keep the Kleenex on the ready.
I get tons of scare tactic laced fund raising ads from my congressmen over abortion issues.
Both parties have done this from day 1. Crying about it is ridiculous.
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Or Banery Franks' apartment.
you're dating yourself. old, old stuff.
cliff notes will be needed for the new kids here.... ;)
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Perhaps they should have promised the wacko base trucknutz, bibles, and Skoal dip instead of Scooby snacks. Would have garnered them more support.
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Look at this bullshit fear mongering poll/fundraiser.
https://www.supporttcc.org/civicrm/contribute/transact?reset=1&id=2&custom_14=TCP7NCHH&custom_15=e004p
The survey starts off with a photo showing our very serious President at prayer. So not even the haters think he’s a *Godless* commie — or they do, but they’re too stupid to illustrate their own web page with a picture that matches their message. Which would not surprise me at this point.
This is why the major donors and ex-repubs who still like balanced budgets need to form a new party. Let the retarded religious fruitcakes and the know-nothings and the racists tear each other to bits. No one will miss the Republican Party, any more than they miss the Whigs or Federalists.
He is probably thinking about banging a white chick,not praying.
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The GOP only ever runs on fear. They aren't progressive in the slightest. It's either fear that your guns will be taken away, fear terrorists will attack, fear your healthcare will be cut, fear, fear, fear. There are never any ideas tabled under a republican majority. It's the same old tax cuts for this, war and harsh words for that. I'm not saying a democratic majority is always the answer but damn it at least they table ideas to help Americans. Republicans would rather it be 1910 than 2010 with the dribble they propose.
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The GOP only ever runs on fear. They aren't progressive in the slightest. It's either fear that your guns will be taken away, fear terrorists will attack, fear your healthcare will be cut, fear, fear, fear. There are never any ideas tabled under a republican majority. It's the same old tax cuts for this, war and harsh words for that. I'm not saying a democratic majority is always the answer but damn it at least they table ideas to help Americans. Republicans would rather it be 1910 than 2010 with the dribble they propose.
100% correct, where obama is taking us I would much rather go to 1910 than the communistic NWO Brave New World.
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The GOP only ever runs on fear. They aren't progressive in the slightest. It's either fear that your guns will be taken away, fear terrorists will attack, fear your healthcare will be cut, fear, fear, fear. There are never any ideas tabled under a republican majority. It's the same old tax cuts for this, war and harsh words for that. I'm not saying a democratic majority is always the answer but damn it at least they table ideas to help Americans. Republicans would rather it be 1910 than 2010 with the dribble they propose.
Yes the democrats dont do that at all.They never say "republicans want to take us to war" or "republicans want grand ma on the street and they will try to take away your social security and have you eating dog food" or "republicans want to take your right to choose away" or any number of other fear tactics.They certainly never play on racial fears like that NAACP ad with the daughter of James Byrd.Yeah,your right,they are progressive thinkers with great ideas,like raise taxes,spend more,steal from those who work and give it to scum bags.Your an idiot.
By the way,can you ever name ONE time where tax cuts didnt spur the economy?
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100% correct, where obama is taking us I would much rather go to 1910 than the communistic NWO Brave New World.
And there you go, wishing it was some time in the past and not acknowledging that America in fact changes and so should it's laws, government and people. Sadly little changes because of people like the GOP - the party of fear and no.
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The GOP only ever runs on fear. They aren't progressive in the slightest. It's either fear that your guns will be taken away, fear terrorists will attack, fear your healthcare will be cut, fear, fear, fear. There are never any ideas tabled under a republican majority. It's the same old tax cuts for this, war and harsh words for that. I'm not saying a democratic majority is always the answer but damn it at least they table ideas to help Americans. Republicans would rather it be 1910 than 2010 with the dribble they propose.
And their "fear" has been DEAD ON THE MONEY, because loonies on the left...ahem..."progressives" do just that.
That's why the people of this country don't want ObamaCare. All those "fears" are being confirmed, with each passing day.
That's why there's the opposition to the stimulus, because the "fear" (that it wouldn't reduce the deficit, create jobs, or keep unemployment under 8%) TURNED OUT TO BE TRUE.
Tabling dumb ideas is not better than having "no" ideas. In fact (as we've learned the hard way), it's much worse.
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And there you go, wishing it was some time in the past and not acknowledging that America in fact changes and so should it's laws, government and people. Sadly little changes because of people like the GOP - the party of fear and no.
Screw that nonsense.
I am sure in 1917 in Russian many like yourself said the same thing.
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Yes the democrats dont do that at all.They never say "republicans want to take us to war" or "republicans want grand ma on the street and they will try to take away your social security and have you eating dog food" or "republicans want to take your right to choose away" or any number of other fear tactics.They certainly never play on racial fears like that NAACP ad with the daughter of James Byrd.Yeah,your right,they are progressive thinkers with great ideas,like raise taxes,spend more,steal from those who work and give it to scum bags.Your an idiot.
By the way,can you ever name ONE time where tax cuts didnt spur the economy?
Here is the thing billy. The republicans DO want to take away social security, medicare and medicaid. Those are stated by their own party officials throughout their time in congress. But yet they spread lies to sow their seeds of fear, that is the difference. Death panels, reduction in care, stimulus doesn't create jobs (while taking the money at ONE THE JOB SITES) etc etc all LIES yet all used as fear instruments by a party with no solutions other than outdated policies from a so called 'golden era'.
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Here is the thing billy. The republicans DO want to take away social security, medicare and medicaid. Those are stated by their own party officials throughout their time in congress. But yet they spread lies to sow their seeds of fear, that is the difference. Death panels, reduction in care, stimulus doesn't create jobs (while taking the money at ONE THE JOB SITES) etc etc all LIES yet all used as fear instruments by a party with no solutions other than outdated policies from a so called 'golden era'.
WHAT PART OF $100 TRILLION IN DEBT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
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Yes the democrats dont do that at all.They never say "republicans want to take us to war" or "republicans want grand ma on the street and they will try to take away your social security and have you eating dog food" or "republicans want to take your right to choose away" or any number of other fear tactics.They certainly never play on racial fears like that NAACP ad with the daughter of James Byrd.Yeah,your right,they are progressive thinkers with great ideas,like raise taxes,spend more,steal from those who work and give it to scum bags.Your an idiot.
By the way,can you ever name ONE time where tax cuts didnt spur the economy?
Or, the Dems, telling blacks (via black liberals and "civil rights leaders"), that voting for Bush would be one step short of putting them back in the fields to pick cotton.
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Screw that nonsense.
I am sure in 1917 in Russian many like yourself said the same thing.
Haha you have NO clue 333. None. You cling to your fear mongering sound bites like 'socialism, communism, marxism' without understanding very little has changed in the day to day operation of America from the past president to this one. There has been no fundamental change (hence the liberals being more and more upset with Obama). If this is 'socialism' then Bush must have been a socialist, marxist too. He wanted bailouts which resulted in government takeovers, his father implemented a cap and trade like system in 1990, (must be NWO right?) all he had different was a red party hat.
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BWAHAHAQHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1217
National GOP leaders are doing damage control today after a Politico scoop lifted the curtain on the party's plan to tap voters' "fear" in the coming campaign season. The PR problem started when an absent-minded attendee at the Republican National Committee (RNC) confab on February 18 in Boca Grande, Florida, left a 72-page document from its 2010 strategizing session in a hotel room. Today, Politico reporter Ben Smith's expose is making headlines.
The memo tracks the fundraising presentation that RNC Finance Director Rob Bickhart delivered to the RNC's $2,500-a-head annual retreat. The best path to victory in 2010, the document advises, is for Republican candidates to depict themselves as the best hope for resisting the "trending toward socialism" taking shape in a Democrat-dominated Washington.
And the document doesn't shy from making its points graphically. MSNBC showed the images this morning on "Morning Joe":
The presentation portrays the Obama administration as "The Evil Empire," including the now-infamous image of President Obama made over in the makeup Heath Ledger used in his performance as the Joker in the 2008 Batman movie "The Dark Knight." House Speaker Nancy Pelosi appears as Cruella De Vil from "101 Dalmatians," and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is the witless cartoon dog Scooby-Doo. The memo candidly confirms that the aim of such caricature is to amp up "fear" among the GOP's conservative base. The memo also makes fun of major RNC donors, categorizing some as "ego-driven" and easily pacified with "tchochkes" (a Slavic word for toys).
The embrace of harsh rhetoric and the swipes at the large donor set seem to signal the GOP establishment's growing comfort with employing tactics associated with the activist Tea Party movement—and with plying Tea Party sympathizers for cash. Of course, it isn't unusual for parties out of power to court controversy and play with fire to rile up donors and grass-roots activists. The RNC has caught heat for fundraising tactics in the past, most recently when it was caught sending out fake census forms to raise money. And Democrats have shown a demagogic streak in the past, depicting George W. Bush and Dick Cheney as Bond-like supervillains and playing up alleged GOP plans to kill Social Security to rally voters behind a popular entitlement program.
When asked by Yahoo! News if the leaked presentation reflects a coordinated effort to appeal more to the Tea Party movement, RNC spokesman Doug Heye replied that the group's chairman, Michael Steele, "was recently invited by Tea Party activists to a meeting, which he was happy to do. Following the meeting, it was clear those in the meeting shared a common goal: stopping the Obama/Pelosi/Reid agenda." As for plans to further that alliance with the inflammatory material in the memo, Heye reiterated what he'd told Politico earlier: "The language and the imagery will not be used in any capacity in the future."
There's no question that the Obama-as-Joker image—long a familiar icon at Tea Party rallies—is a toxic association for the GOP establishment. Oddly enough, though, that image's origins can be traced to the activist left. As revealed by the Los Angeles Times last year, the image was created by a supporter of Rep. Dennis Kucinich, a University of Illinois student named Firas Alkhateeb, who told the Times that he uploaded the photo onto his Flickr page, and a conservative activist promptly snatched it up.
Such are the odd convergences of movement politics. However, the RNC may have more trouble distancing itself from the equation of Democratic policy with socialism, however, since Michael Steele is credited with originating that meme in the health care debate.
The Lib party has screwed up so bad we don't even need a strategy. As long they keep doing what they're doing we're fine........just like I said in the first month of this clown's presidency.
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Haha you have NO clue 333. None. You cling to your fear mongering sound bites like 'socialism, communism, marxism' without understanding very little has changed in the day to day operation of America from the past president to this one. There has been no fundamental change (hence the liberals being more and more upset with Obama). If this is 'socialism' then Bush must have been a socialist, marxist too. He wanted bailouts which resulted in government takeovers, his father implemented a cap and trade like system in 1990, (must be NWO right?) all he had different was a red party hat.
Remember GB senior "NWO" speech?
I did not like Bush and i dont know how many posts I have to make tp prove that to you.
However, there is ZERO doubt in my mind that obama is a hardcore communist radical. As every day passes it becomes more and more obvious what he is.
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Remember GB senior "NWO" speech?
I did not like Bush and i dont know how many posts I have to make tp prove that to you.
However, there is ZERO doubt in my mind that obama is a hardcore communist radical. As every day passes it becomes more and more obvious what he is.
I didn't say you liked Bush. However, you never once said he was a marxist, communist, etc despite their being pretty much no fundamental change in America.
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WHAT PART OF $100 TRILLION IN DEBT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
The RNC claims that they have raised over 81 TRILLION dollars for their campaign. Why not take that money, pay off the debt and be heroes for once? If they did that, the other parties would cease to exist on the spot.
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I didn't say you liked Bush. However, you never once said he was a marxist, communist, etc despite their being pretty much no fundamental change in America.
GWB was a NWO shill and fiscal socialist. he did the bidding for his buddies and was a disaster his second term. Is that enough for you?
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Bush called the Constitution "just a goddamn piece of paper" and Obama's the communist. ::)
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GWB was a NWO shill and fiscal socialist. he did the bidding for his buddies and was a disaster his second term. Is that enough for you?
Where was all this when he was in power? You never ONCE said anything like you do for Obama, yet like i said nothing has changed. Except the president's party and background. Now what is it that you really have an issue with, a democratic president or something else?
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Where was all this when he was in power? You never ONCE said anything like you do for Obama, yet like i said nothing has changed. Except the president's party and background. Now what is it that you really have an issue with, a democratic president or something else?
I was thrown of FR for bashing bush.
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I was thrown of FR for bashing bush.
You say this everytime but did you ever talk about him being a marxist or socialist? Thing is it's no where near the same amount of time you do for Obama yet they are so similar. what gives? Is it because Obama is a dem or what?
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You say this everytime but did you ever talk about him being a marxist or socialist? Thing is it's no where near the same amount of time you do for Obama yet they are so similar. what gives? Is it because Obama is a dem or what?
Have we not established 333 his motive yet? Here's a hint: it starts with an R
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Have we not established 333 his motive yet? Here's a hint: it starts with an R
::) ::)
GWB was horrific, but as bad as this.
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You still haven't answered. I mean there has been no change you've said so yourself. In fact it's been mocked by many on the right hasn't it? I mean no hope or change as yet right? So if it's the same why is one a marxist and one just someone you don't agree with some things on?
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You still haven't answered. I mean there has been no change you've said so yourself. In fact it's been mocked by many on the right hasn't it? I mean no hope or change as yet right? So if it's the same why is one a marxist and one just someone you don't agree with some things on?
No, GWB flirted with fiscal socialism, Obama is full in and 100% full steam ahead with this garbage.
Obama: "I sought out the marxist professors"
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Bush called the Constitution "just a goddamn piece of paper" and Obama's the communist. ::)
In what context did Bush say this? Was it the silly story on MSNBC, with Keith Obermann? We all know Keith's stand on Bush. Point taken. At the time this story was in the news the Bush Admin was working on making sure this country was safe from terrorism. Now I don't agree with the face value of this statement, but you don't have a constitution when you don't have security. And in this context, Bush needed to aliegn with the right people who will do what it takes to keep this country safe.
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Haha you have NO clue 333. None. You cling to your fear mongering sound bites like 'socialism, communism, marxism' without understanding very little has changed in the day to day operation of America from the past president to this one. There has been no fundamental change (hence the liberals being more and more upset with Obama). If this is 'socialism' then Bush must have been a socialist, marxist too. He wanted bailouts which resulted in government takeovers, his father implemented a cap and trade like system in 1990, (must be NWO right?) all he had different was a red party hat.
Nothing has changed? KC what are you smoking?
For one, we have tripled our debt in ONE YEAR. Take over of banks, gov't telling CEO's how much they can be paid, we are on the verge of healthcare takeover... And nothing has CHANGED?
So what did you vote for? Didn't you vote for hope and change?
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Nothing has changed? KC what are you smoking?
For one, we have tripled our debt in ONE YEAR. Take over of banks, gov't telling CEO's how much they can be paid, we are on the verge of healthcare takeover... And nothing has CHANGED?
So what did you vote for? Didn't you vote for hope and change?
These marxists cant accept the fact that Obama is far worse than GWB and has made things far worse.
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Here is the thing billy. The republicans DO want to take away social security, medicare and medicaid. Those are stated by their own party officials throughout their time in congress. But yet they spread lies to sow their seeds of fear, that is the difference. Death panels, reduction in care, stimulus doesn't create jobs (while taking the money at ONE THE JOB SITES) etc etc all LIES yet all used as fear instruments by a party with no solutions other than outdated policies from a so called 'golden era'.
The stimulus bill has created ZERO jobs.The health care scheme will provide worse health care[can you name one thing where government improves a thing],the democrats run on racial fear EVERYTIME.Republicans dont want to take away social security or medicare or medicaide that is a lie.They want to save them from the filthy democrats who never want to pay for anything.You,by saying that prove that democrats run on fear and do it everytime.The very fact that Obama says the economy was the worst since the great depression when he ignores Carters economy is another example.Saying "we have to pass these things RIGHT AWAY " or we will be in a depression is another example.Sorry,democrats are the party of fear.
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No, GWB flirted with fiscal socialism, Obama is full in and 100% full steam ahead with this garbage.
Obama: "I sought out the marxist professors"
Is this an actual quote or one of your 'sources' ::) by the way context is important too you know.
You see you can't properly explain why you have such opposition when Bush sr enacted a cap and trade like system is he an NWO shill? Bush jr was there when the 2002 farm bill passed, he didn't veto it.
The subsidy programs give farmers extra money for their crops and guarantee a price floor. For instance in the 2002 Farm Bill, for every bushel of wheat sold farmers were paid an extra 52 cents and guaranteed a price of 3.86 from 2002–03 and 3.92 from 2004–2007. That is, if the price of wheat in 2002 was 3.80 farmers would get an extra 58 cents per bushel (52 cents plus the $0.06 price difference).
Corn is the top crop for subsidy payments, due in part to the fact that corn has uses aside from food and feed. US corn ethanol subsidies are between $5.5 Billion and $7.3 Billion per year, and US ethanol producers are protected from imports of cheaper Brazilian ethanol by a 54-cent-per-gallon tariff. Producers also benefit from a federal subsidy of 51 cents per gallon, additional state subsidies and, federal crop subsidies that can bring the total to 85 cents per gallon or more. The 2005 energy law mandates that billions of gallons of ethanol be blended into vehicle fuel each year, guaranteeing demand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy)
If this isn't government intervention and socialism as well what is 333? Is it only socialism when Obama does it? Or is there something else there as to why you act this way to one president yet not to another???
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The stimulus bill has created ZERO jobs.The health care scheme will provide worse health care[can you name one thing where government improves a thing],the democrats run on racial fear EVERYTIME.Republicans dont want to take away social security or medicare or medicaide that is a lie.They want to save them from the filthy democrats who never want to pay for anything.You,by saying that prove that democrats run on fear and do it everytime.The very fact that Obama says the economy was the worst since the great depression when he ignores Carters economy is another example.Saying "we have to pass these things RIGHT AWAY " or we will be in a depression is another example.Sorry,democrats are the party of fear.
Serious - if you ever are in NYC - I'm taking you out for a drink at Drinking w Bob's bar!
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The stimulus bill has created ZERO jobs.The health care scheme will provide worse health care[can you name one thing where government improves a thing],the democrats run on racial fear EVERYTIME.Republicans dont want to take away social security or medicare or medicaide that is a lie.They want to save them from the filthy democrats who never want to pay for anything.You,by saying that prove that democrats run on fear and do it everytime.The very fact that Obama says the economy was the worst since the great depression when he ignores Carters economy is another example.Saying "we have to pass these things RIGHT AWAY " or we will be in a depression is another example.Sorry,democrats are the party of fear.
What we forgot was that little forgotten fact that the Demcrats tried to pass the healthcare bill in the closed door meeting overnight during the very beginning of this mess. How cute. And Obama was supposed to be the great unifier...
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These marxists cant accept the fact that Obama is far worse than GWB and has made things far worse.
Uh TARP was under Bush guys. Obama continued on the same road Bush was going down, hence left wing anger over it at places like DU. You're attacking the actions that Bush would have taken and had started to take. Hilarious.
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Is this an actual quote or one of your 'sources' ::) by the way context is important too you know.
You see you can't properly explain why you have such opposition when Bush sr enacted a cap and trade like system is he an NWO shill? Bush jr was there when the 2002 farm bill passed, he didn't veto it.
The subsidy programs give farmers extra money for their crops and guarantee a price floor. For instance in the 2002 Farm Bill, for every bushel of wheat sold farmers were paid an extra 52 cents and guaranteed a price of 3.86 from 2002–03 and 3.92 from 2004–2007. That is, if the price of wheat in 2002 was 3.80 farmers would get an extra 58 cents per bushel (52 cents plus the $0.06 price difference).
Corn is the top crop for subsidy payments, due in part to the fact that corn has uses aside from food and feed. US corn ethanol subsidies are between $5.5 Billion and $7.3 Billion per year, and US ethanol producers are protected from imports of cheaper Brazilian ethanol by a 54-cent-per-gallon tariff. Producers also benefit from a federal subsidy of 51 cents per gallon, additional state subsidies and, federal crop subsidies that can bring the total to 85 cents per gallon or more. The 2005 energy law mandates that billions of gallons of ethanol be blended into vehicle fuel each year, guaranteeing demand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy)
If this isn't government intervention and socialism as well what is 333? Is it only socialism when Obama does it? Or is there something else there as to why you act this way to one president yet not to another???
Its in his book "Dreams". that is a direct quote.
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Uh TARP was under Bush guys. Obama continued on the same road Bush was going down, hence left wing anger over it at places like DU. You're attacking the actions that Bush would have taken and had started to take. Hilarious.
Yes.
Let me ask you, did the stim bill Obama passed "create or save" a million jobs?
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So? Did you answer to anything i posted. I don't care if he sought marxist professors, no one does, except you. and you use it as some excuse as to why you hate him when he's done the same things as the president before him.
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Uh TARP was under Bush guys. Obama continued on the same road Bush was going down, hence left wing anger over it at places like DU. You're attacking the actions that Bush would have taken and had started to take. Hilarious.
On December 19, 2008, President Bush used his executive authority to declare that TARP funds may be spent on any program he personally deems necessary to avert the financial crisis. This has allowed President Bush to extend the use of TARP funds to support the auto industry, a move supported by the United Auto Workers.
They then purchased $13,400 (millions) in GM preferred shares. UNDER BUSH. Wow that's socialism isn't it?
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Yes.
Let me ask you, did the stim bill Obama passed "create or save" a million jobs?
There was a CBO report out it saved and created jobs but i'm unsure of the extent. I would have to look it up.
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Is this an actual quote or one of your 'sources' ::) by the way context is important too you know.
You see you can't properly explain why you have such opposition when Bush sr enacted a cap and trade like system is he an NWO shill? Bush jr was there when the 2002 farm bill passed, he didn't veto it.
The subsidy programs give farmers extra money for their crops and guarantee a price floor. For instance in the 2002 Farm Bill, for every bushel of wheat sold farmers were paid an extra 52 cents and guaranteed a price of 3.86 from 2002–03 and 3.92 from 2004–2007. That is, if the price of wheat in 2002 was 3.80 farmers would get an extra 58 cents per bushel (52 cents plus the $0.06 price difference).
Corn is the top crop for subsidy payments, due in part to the fact that corn has uses aside from food and feed. US corn ethanol subsidies are between $5.5 Billion and $7.3 Billion per year, and US ethanol producers are protected from imports of cheaper Brazilian ethanol by a 54-cent-per-gallon tariff. Producers also benefit from a federal subsidy of 51 cents per gallon, additional state subsidies and, federal crop subsidies that can bring the total to 85 cents per gallon or more. The 2005 energy law mandates that billions of gallons of ethanol be blended into vehicle fuel each year, guaranteeing demand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy)
If this isn't government intervention and socialism as well what is 333? Is it only socialism when Obama does it? Or is there something else there as to why you act this way to one president yet not to another???
Good job kc - Good job at doing your best at confusing what was government work at helping a struggling sector of the economy with what Obama is trying to do. Bush wasn't trying to TAKE OVER THE FARMING INDUSTRY, FORCE PEOPLE TO BUY THEIR CORN. What Obama is doing is thuggery.
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There was a CBO report out it saved and created jobs but i'm unsure of the extent. I would have to look it up.
Look it up? ??? ::) Yeah. That seems that is all you know how to do...
Answer the question: DO YOU feel this stim bill Mr. Wonderful passed saved or created a million jobs??
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Good job kc - Good job at doing your best at confusing what was government work at helping a struggling sector of the economy with what Obama is trying to do. Bush wasn't trying to TAKE OVER THE FARMING INDUSTRY, FORCE PEOPLE TO BUY THEIR CORN. What Obama is doing is thuggery.
struggling sector? are you crazy? we throw out 40-50% of the food we produce. THROW IT OUT so yes we are STRUGGLING in farming. ::)
government subsidies are no different than welfare. they are just named different and have republican support. it's government intervention and socialism. oh wait it's only that when a democrat does it right?
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Look it up? ??? ::) Yeah. That seems that is all you know how to do...
Answer the question: DO YOU feel this stim bill Mr. Wonderful passed saved or created a million jobs??
what does feel have to do with facts? You're confusing emotion with reality.
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There was a CBO report out it saved and created jobs but i'm unsure of the extent. I would have to look it up.
Thats fine but how exactly do you measure a saved job? The whole premise is ridiculous, and what jobs were created? Government jobs? If so how does that benefit the private sector?
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what does feel have to do with facts? You're confusing emotion with reality.
It goes to prove where you stand on this issue. No confusion at all. What do you think? Ok, go ahead and look it up... :o ;D
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Thats fine but how exactly do you measure a saved job? The whole premise is ridiculous, and what jobs were created? Government jobs? If so how does that benefit the private sector?
My guess would be there is likely some calculation that use to measure whether jobs were saved or not. As to the accuracy of such a thing. I don't know.
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It goes to prove where you stand on this issue. No confusion at all. What do you think? Ok, go ahead and look it up... :o ;D
Do you want me to look up what was written by the CBO or do you want me to look up how i feel about it? You did ask - DO YOU feel
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struggling sector? are you crazy? we throw out 40-50% of the food we produce. THROW IT OUT so yes we are STRUGGLING in farming. ::)
government subsidies are no different than welfare. they are just named different and have republican support. it's government intervention and socialism. oh wait it's only that when a democrat does it right?
It's regardless of what is thrown out, it has to do with a fair price for the services rendered. What you are confusing is that the differences here is Bush did not want to take over anything. He was looking out for the farming ind. Anyone with a half a brain knows this ind is suffering. I don't know of any "farm aid" concerts for the healthcare ind.
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Do you want me to look up what was written by the CBO or do you want me to look up how i feel about it? You did ask - DO YOU feel
Yes. What is your answer.
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My guess would be there is likely some calculation that use to measure whether jobs were saved or not. As to the accuracy of such a thing. I don't know.
Thats what I mean, they create some calculation, then all of sudden we have a new measure of how great the stim is working. For my next trick I'll pull a rabbit out of my hat.
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It's regardless of what is thrown out, it has to do with a fair price for the services rendered. What you are confusing is that the differences here is Bush did not want to take over anything. He was looking out for the farming ind. Anyone with a half a brain knows this ind is suffering. I don't know of any "farm aid" concerts for the healthcare ind.
Fair price for what exactly? Food that is then thrown out? Obviously supply and demand has been skewed hasn't it? I mean the supply is EXCEEDING the demand yet we are still paying farmers to grow more and more sh*t food like soy and corn. This also has an important correlation to obesity in America. We all know about high fructose corn syrup and how bad it is for you, and the reason it's about is because we pay farmers to grow it and they can undersell other sweetener products. Not exactly fair is it?
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Fair price for what exactly? Food that is then thrown out? Obviously supply and demand has been skewed hasn't it? I mean the supply is EXCEEDING the demand yet we are still paying farmers to grow more and more sh*t food like soy and corn. This also has an important correlation to obesity in America. We all know about high fructose corn syrup and how bad it is for you, and the reason it's about is because we pay farmers to grow it and they can undersell other sweetener products. Not exactly fair is it?
You are being too simplistic here regarding the disposal of food. Maybe this was due to a bad crop season. Maybe it was due to over supply like you said. But why don't you look up the bankrypcy rate for farmers in this country the last 15 years? Not exactly in proportion is it..
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In what context did Bush say this? Was it the silly story on MSNBC, with Keith Obermann? We all know Keith's stand on Bush. Point taken. At the time this story was in the news the Bush Admin was working on making sure this country was safe from terrorism. Now I don't agree with the face value of this statement, but you don't have a constitution when you don't have security. And in this context, Bush needed to aliegn with the right people who will do what it takes to keep this country safe.
By DOUG THOMPSON
Dec 9, 2005, 06:39
Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act.
Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal.
GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.
“I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”
“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case
that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”
“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a god-damned piece of paper!”
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By DOUG THOMPSON
Dec 9, 2005, 06:39
Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act.
Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal.
GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.
“I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”
“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case
that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”
“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a god-damned piece of paper!”
This was in regards to wire taping Mons. So, this same wire taping that you liberals hate, also saved the brooklyn Bridge and subway tunnels from being destroyed AFTER 911 happened. About a year after this plan was in the working phases. This was evidence that was confirmed by KSM after his capture. What Bush was saying here was I need to do what I need to to protect htis country and you are throwing the constitution in my face as a roadblock. In my view, again, you don't have a constitution if you don't have security. Sorry man. Your point is not well taken. In fact it is typical liberal left wing sept 10th thinking at its best.
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Talking about fear.
Didn't the Democrats call the war in Iraq a quagmire and worst than their own mess of Vietnam in just the first year of combat?
Now, they want to take credit for it.
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Talking about fear.
Didn't the Democrats call the war in Iraq a quagmire and worst than their own mess of Vietnam in just the first year of combat?
Now, they want to take credit for it.
"Unless we pass the Stimulus Bill, Unemployment will exceed 8%"
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This was in regards to wire taping Mons. So, this same wire taping that you liberals hate, also saved the brooklyn Bridge and subway tunnels from being destroyed AFTER 911 happened. About a year after this plan was in the working phases. This was evidence that was confirmed by KSM after his capture. What Bush was saying here was I need to do what I need to to protect htis country and you are throwing the constitution in my face as a roadblock. In my view, again, you don't have a constitution if you don't have security. Sorry man. Your point is not well taken. In fact it is typical liberal left wing sept 10th thinking at its best.
Didn't Obama announce last week the extension of the Patriot Act?
After so much criticism of Bush by Liberals, most of his policies are still in effect and still helping to keep this country safe. Obama is not as stupid as he looks, but his supporters are.
Every success in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan is all due to Bush. Obama and his administration have not come up with anything new to help the war against terrorism.
Change? I thought this administration was supposed to be anti-Bush? A lot of Dems were at one point talking about continuing Bush's tax cuts.
This current administration can't survive without relying on Bush's policies. Unbelievable.
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"This current administration can't survive without relying on Bush's policies. Unbelievable."
Well, Bush didn't get into office and reverse all of Clinton's policies.
Presidents keep what they what, and change what they need in order to fulfill their radical Kenyan agenda.
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This was in regards to wire taping Mons. So, this same wire taping that you liberals hate, also saved the brooklyn Bridge and subway tunnels from being destroyed AFTER 911 happened. About a year after this plan was in the working phases. This was evidence that was confirmed by KSM after his capture. What Bush was saying here was I need to do what I need to to protect htis country and you are throwing the constitution in my face as a roadblock. In my view, again, you don't have a constitution if you don't have security. Sorry man. Your point is not well taken. In fact it is typical liberal left wing sept 10th thinking at its best.
I voted for Bush. Liberal what?
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Talking about fear.
Didn't the Democrats call the war in Iraq a quagmire and worst than their own mess of Vietnam in just the first year of combat?
Now, they want to take credit for it.
Sure... bandwagon fans.
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"This current administration can't survive without relying on Bush's policies. Unbelievable."
Well, Bush didn't get into office and reverse all of Clinton's policies.
Presidents keep what they what, and change what they need in order to fulfill their radical Kenyan agenda.
What policies of Clinton, at least on the war on terror, or shall I say, the non-war on terror?
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"This current administration can't survive without relying on Bush's policies. Unbelievable."
Well, Bush didn't get into office and reverse all of Clinton's policies.
Presidents keep what they what, and change what they need in order to fulfill their radical Kenyan agenda.
Except Bush didn't promise change on everything like the messiah. Your messiah said he would close Gitmo, bring home the troops, his lackeys constantly berated the prior administration for the Patriot Act and did not want to extend Bush's tax cuts because supposedly it favors only the rich. Let us not get into how proud the messiah was about not voting for the surge in Iraq because it would increase sectarian violence. The surge, as you know, actually turned the war in favor of the USA. Now, Obama and his administration want to take credit for the current status of Iraq.
You are right, Bush was no where as big as liar as the last black hope.