Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure

Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: delta9mda on July 22, 2010, 09:29:24 PM

Title: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: delta9mda on July 22, 2010, 09:29:24 PM
ok bros, what do you like/ prefer and why for cutting/ weight loss?

the t3 kinda scares me as you can/ are messing with the thyroid. not having a thyroid problem i wouldnt want to start one though 25 mcg of t3 doesnt seem like much.

Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: tbombz on July 22, 2010, 10:29:37 PM
trust me bro, t3 will not give you any issues at all. the myth is completely bro science, and there has never been any reason to believe that t3 would cause any negative effects to thyroid function.. regardless of how long or intense the t3 supplementation lasted.

and yes, t3 would be the best choice. eca and clen both lose effectiveness after a short while. with t3 there is no such loss of effects, and its more effective for fat loss too. 

25mcg is not enough to get the fat loss effects, that would only be enough to prevent a metabolic slow down due to decreased calorie intake (which is normally a problem for dieters- teh body decreases t3 when you lower calories)

if you wanna use it for fat loss, try 50mcg then work your way up to 100, maybe as high as 150 if you feel like your comfortable and its necessary.

even at a 'high' doseage fo 100mcg per day, t3 wont do all the work for you, and you still need to keep your diet spot on. the only difference is that you will get flatter quicker as you lose fat faster, and will benefit from more frequent "refeeds" or "carb ups".
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Meso_z on July 22, 2010, 11:43:07 PM
trust me bro, t3 will not give you any issues at all. the myth is completely bro science, and there has never been any reason to believe that t3 would cause any negative effects to thyroid function.. regardless of how long or intense the t3 supplementation lasted.

and yes, t3 would be the best choice. eca and clen both lose effectiveness after a short while. with t3 there is no such loss of effects, and its more effective for fat loss too. 

25mcg is not enough to get the fat loss effects, that would only be enough to prevent a metabolic slow down due to decreased calorie intake (which is normally a problem for dieters- teh body decreases t3 when you lower calories)

if you wanna use it for fat loss, try 50mcg then work your way up to 100, maybe as high as 150 if you feel like your comfortable and its necessary.

even at a 'high' doseage fo 100mcg per day, t3 wont do all the work for you, and you still need to keep your diet spot on. the only difference is that you will get flatter quicker as you lose fat faster, and will benefit from more frequent "refeeds" or "carb ups".

ive used 75mcg pharm grade t3 and i was flat and looked like shit, but yea it worked. lol.
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Kentucky_cowboy on July 23, 2010, 12:25:53 AM
personally i find eca decreases my appetite unlike clen or t3, so if I was to pick one I'd pick eca.  Plus its legal at least where I live, so you don't have to worry about someone making it in their bathtub or wherever.
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on July 23, 2010, 01:59:49 AM
personally i find eca decreases my appetite unlike clen or t3, so if I was to pick one I'd pick eca.  Plus its legal at least where I live, so you don't have to worry about someone making it in their bathtub or wherever.


T3 and clenbuterol are not scheduled either. 
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: delta9mda on July 23, 2010, 11:42:04 AM
personally i find eca decreases my appetite unlike clen or t3, so if I was to pick one I'd pick eca.  Plus its legal at least where I live, so you don't have to worry about someone making it in their bathtub or wherever.
there are alot of places to get legit, you dont have to worry about ug clen and t3
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Overload on July 23, 2010, 12:04:26 PM
T3

50-75mcg is all you should need with diet and cardio.

ECA is very stressful on your heart and keeps me up at night.

Clen made me feel like shit and gave me the shakes.


8)
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Kentucky_cowboy on July 25, 2010, 02:27:34 PM
there are alot of places to get legit, you dont have to worry about ug clen and t3

this is news to me where do you get them from over the counter?
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: 4thAD on July 25, 2010, 02:53:35 PM
this is news to me where do you get them from over the counter?

Not going to find clen in the US unless you order from a research chem site, or order over seas. T# can be found if you have a prescription, research chem site, or over seas. Both can be found HG.
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on July 25, 2010, 04:01:25 PM
Not going to find clen in the US unless you order from a research chem site, or order over seas. T# can be found if you have a prescription, research chem site, or over seas. Both can be found HG.

Personally, I would not fuck with any research chems...Especiallly T3..It is a very fickle substance to dissolve and you may not be getting proper dosing as you would with tabs.

HTH
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: 4thAD on July 25, 2010, 04:08:21 PM
Personally, I would not fuck with any research chems...Especiallly T3..It is a very fickle substance to dissolve and you may not be getting proper dosing as you would with tabs.

HTH

Oh I agree completely. I wouldnt fuck with any stimulants either from research chem sites. Thanx for pointing this out, I should have been clear on this.
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on July 25, 2010, 06:03:43 PM
Oh I agree completely. I wouldnt fuck with any stimulants either from research chem sites. Thanx for pointing this out, I should have been clear on this.

YGPM
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: delta9mda on July 25, 2010, 11:52:13 PM
this is news to me where do you get them from over the counter?
my wife has scripts and you can get from overseas, easily.
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Kentucky_cowboy on July 26, 2010, 08:21:09 AM
thanks for the info guys so my original point stands that ephedrine has the advantage that you can simply buy it OTC from  any supplement shop whereas clen and t3 you can not lol
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Fatpanda on July 26, 2010, 03:15:54 PM
ephedrine makes me moody, depressed, and gives me long periods of extreme fatigue. although it did help fat loss.

i do not think i will use it again, which is unfortunate as i have 1000 tabs or so of the fuckers  >:(

clen does nothing to me as i am an asthmatic, and t3 has been taken by me at 200mcg and also did nothing worth noting in regard to fat loss, just the same couple of pounds off each week that i was already losing with diet  :-\

dnp - gave me sides from hell, with again nothing worth noting regarding fat loss with again just the same couple of pounds off each week that i was already losing with diet.

only thing that works for me is lower calories and cardio - who knew  :D
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on July 26, 2010, 03:57:11 PM
ephedrine makes me moody, depressed, and gives me long periods of extreme fatigue. although it did help fat loss.

i do not think i will use it again, which is unfortunate as i have 1000 tabs or so of the fuckers  >:(

clen does nothing to me as i am an asthmatic, and t3 has been taken by me at 200mcg and also did nothing worth noting in regard to fat loss, just the same couple of pounds off each week that i was already losing with diet  :-\

dnp - gave me sides from hell, with again nothing worth noting regarding fat loss with again just the same couple of pounds off each week that i was already losing with diet.

only thing that works for me is lower calories and cardio - who knew  :D

LOL.  So diet and cardio works better for you than T3, Clen, DNP, and ephedrine?  LOL.  Hi Layne Norton!  Sounds like you got bunk shit! 
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: g101 on July 26, 2010, 04:09:47 PM
ephedrine makes me moody, depressed, and gives me long periods of extreme fatigue. although it did help fat loss.

lol ECA is the best fat burner

and if you say no then you don't have legit ephedrine

infact when i was using ephedrine i felt godly and happy so..... you probably got estrogen pills instead

Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on July 26, 2010, 04:51:29 PM
lol ECA is the best fat burner

and if you say no then you don't have legit ephedrine

infact when i was using ephedrine i felt godly and happy so..... you probably got estrogen pills instead



I agree real ephedrine is the shiznit. 
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: tstmaniac on July 26, 2010, 09:59:22 PM
200mcg of t3 and you didnt lose very much fat? Something isnt right with that
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: delta9mda on July 26, 2010, 10:00:52 PM
I agree real ephedrine is the shiznit. 
i dont like the heart thumping nor the crash.
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: g101 on July 26, 2010, 10:05:56 PM
T3 made me lose a shitload of mass  :( and i was sweating alot

probably cause i was stacking with eca
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Fatpanda on July 28, 2010, 11:42:00 AM
perhaps i'm being misunderstood.

i agree eca is very good for fat burning ( only thing that does work on me in fact)- i simply find i get bad sides from it, depression, severe energy dips, my nuts even shrink on eca believe it or not.

my first few times running t3, i thought it must have been fake shit as i has never heard of anyone not getting fat loss from it, however i then used 100% legit t3 that was my mothers t3 that she got from a script from the docs. this is what i ran at 200mcg with nothing more than 2 pounds weight loss a week ( which i was already losing) and i was also only eating 1500 cals a day.

she also got t4 months before the doc switched her - which did nothing at all to me no matter how high i ran it.

also there is no way the dnp i had was fake. the sides were terrible, constant high temps - literally sweating buckets all day and night, neon yellow cum - the works i worked up to 800mg a day before the sides got too much and i stopped. ( 2 weeks)

again same couple of pounds fat loss i was already losing anyway.

i have no reason to lie about this, i'm only adding my piece.

everyone has different genetics and responses to drugs - i just seem to be a fat storing/hording machine. on a plus note though if ww3 breaks out and everyone is starving, i'll be ok  ;D

i had thought that me being an asthmatic may have something to do with it. i know that clen does not work for fat loss for this reason ( as my body is used to taking a salbutamol inhaler). i have ran clen in extremely high dosages and never even got shakes.
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Meso_z on July 29, 2010, 04:34:13 AM
200MCG OF T3...OMFG... ::)

Who the fuck needs that much.
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: WillGrant on July 29, 2010, 05:09:24 AM
T3 made me lose a shitload of mass  :( and i was sweating alot

probably cause i was stacking with eca
Were you on anabolics ?
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Meso_z on July 29, 2010, 05:13:20 AM
Were you on anabolics ?


ive used 75mcg and on anabolics made me like an aids patient. lol
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: WillGrant on July 29, 2010, 05:16:13 AM
ive used 75mcg and on anabolics made me like an aids patient. lol
Same , it flattens you out but shreds the fat ..I wouldnt bother using it without gear for this fact alone
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: claymore on July 29, 2010, 08:04:52 AM
ok bros, what do you like/ prefer and why for cutting/ weight loss?

the t3 kinda scares me as you can/ are messing with the thyroid. not having a thyroid problem i wouldnt want to start one though 25 mcg of t3 doesnt seem like much.



Ephedrine works incredibly well, as for t-3 it works well and you don't need a lot. Most of the t-3 threads you gonna find are garbage and I've never used more than 25mcg eod and it worked great. Just remember diet, cardio and training are the foundation of the cake, the t-3 or ephedrine use is just the icing on the cake.  ;)
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: tbombz on July 29, 2010, 09:13:41 AM
obviously, for one reason or another, different people get different effects from this drug (and from other drugs as well)

IMO, its all in your head. 


25mcg every other day? scientifically speaking, that wouldnt do a damn thing.  but i dont doubt that claymore did indeed get results from it.


and fat panda getting zilch out of 200mcg? i believe that as well. could have been that he didnt know how to use it properly (its very unstable absorbtion calls for precise dosing during the morning on an empty stomach with at least 30 min wait time before eating). or it could have simply been that fatpanda didnt believe it was going to do anything.. so even if it did absorb, his mind didnt allow any effects to take place.
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: g101 on July 29, 2010, 09:42:32 PM
Were you on anabolics ?


nope, at the time i was new at AAS and fatburners etc etc so i didnt know fuck all

i was getting comments like "did you lose weight?" all the time so i was like wtf

then i hit some legit hg AAS and ppl were like "youre getting bigger there huh"

i didnt even think i was big lol
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Melga on December 01, 2010, 08:05:16 AM
I've used 50 mcg of t3 EoD for 4 weeks and i've lost 20 pounds...Eating normal, except at night, when I didn't ate carbs. Worked very well form me. (I'm male).
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Fatpanda on December 01, 2010, 08:11:47 AM
obviously, for one reason or another, different people get different effects from this drug (and from other drugs as well)

IMO, its all in your head. 


25mcg every other day? scientifically speaking, that wouldnt do a damn thing.  but i dont doubt that claymore did indeed get results from it.


and fat panda getting zilch out of 200mcg? i believe that as well.   could have been that he didnt know how to use it properly (its very unstable absorbtion calls for precise dosing during the morning on an empty stomach with at least 30 min wait time before eating). or it could have simply been that fatpanda didnt believe it was going to do anything.. so even if it did absorb, his mind didnt allow any effects to take place.

old thread, but no i never waited to eat. i took them with my breakfast protein shake and vitamins.  :(
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: lesaucer on December 01, 2010, 09:15:54 AM
ephedrine= EUPHORIA. love it
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Meso_z on December 01, 2010, 09:38:01 AM
ephedrine= EUPHORIA. love it
last night i took ephedrine after long time, because i was half asleep before the workout...

i did bent over rows with 315 till failure, in the rack, threw the bar and immediately jumped and did chin ups from the rack.lol. tons of energy...
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Fatpanda on December 01, 2010, 09:58:49 AM
last night i took ephedrine after long time, because i was half asleep before the workout...

i did bent over rows with 315 till failure, in the rack, threw the bar and immediately jumped and did chin ups from the rack.lol. tons of energy...

sure you did  ::)
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Meso_z on December 01, 2010, 12:29:07 PM
sure you did  ::)
what a fucking joke you are. yes i did and i have the built to prove it, piece of shit.  ::)
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Fatpanda on December 01, 2010, 02:24:49 PM
what a fucking joke you are. yes i did and i have the built to prove it, piece of shit.  ::)
;D sure you do.
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Meso_z on December 01, 2010, 10:33:51 PM
;D sure you do.

ok.
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: tbombz on December 01, 2010, 10:55:03 PM
old thread, but no i never waited to eat. i took them with my breakfast protein shake and vitamins.  :(
  :-\  next time make sure you follow that advise. t3 isnt a miracle drug but it works pretty good at increasing your metabolism by a few hundred calories per day or so.
Title: Re: clen, t3 or eca
Post by: Fatpanda on December 02, 2010, 06:06:05 AM
  :-\  next time make sure you follow that advise. t3 isnt a miracle drug but it works pretty good at increasing your metabolism by a few hundred calories per day or so.

will do candy, perhaps next summer i'll get some more.

it really depends on how fast my metabolism slows on this diet, i'm at 2000 cals a day, and its still working well with the cardio, but i din't want to go any lower than 1500cals.