perhaps i'm being misunderstood.
i agree eca is very good for fat burning ( only thing that does work on me in fact)- i simply find i get bad sides from it, depression, severe energy dips, my nuts even shrink on eca believe it or not.
my first few times running t3, i thought it must have been fake shit as i has never heard of anyone not getting fat loss from it, however i then used 100% legit t3 that was my mothers t3 that she got from a script from the docs. this is what i ran at 200mcg with nothing more than 2 pounds weight loss a week ( which i was already losing) and i was also only eating 1500 cals a day.
she also got t4 months before the doc switched her - which did nothing at all to me no matter how high i ran it.
also there is no way the dnp i had was fake. the sides were terrible, constant high temps - literally sweating buckets all day and night, neon yellow cum - the works i worked up to 800mg a day before the sides got too much and i stopped. ( 2 weeks)
again same couple of pounds fat loss i was already losing anyway.
i have no reason to lie about this, i'm only adding my piece.
everyone has different genetics and responses to drugs - i just seem to be a fat storing/hording machine. on a plus note though if ww3 breaks out and everyone is starving, i'll be ok

i had thought that me being an asthmatic may have something to do with it. i know that clen does not work for fat loss for this reason ( as my body is used to taking a salbutamol inhaler). i have ran clen in extremely high dosages and never even got shakes.