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clen, t3 or eca
« on: July 22, 2010, 09:29:24 PM »
ok bros, what do you like/ prefer and why for cutting/ weight loss?

the t3 kinda scares me as you can/ are messing with the thyroid. not having a thyroid problem i wouldnt want to start one though 25 mcg of t3 doesnt seem like much.


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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2010, 10:29:37 PM »
trust me bro, t3 will not give you any issues at all. the myth is completely bro science, and there has never been any reason to believe that t3 would cause any negative effects to thyroid function.. regardless of how long or intense the t3 supplementation lasted.

and yes, t3 would be the best choice. eca and clen both lose effectiveness after a short while. with t3 there is no such loss of effects, and its more effective for fat loss too. 

25mcg is not enough to get the fat loss effects, that would only be enough to prevent a metabolic slow down due to decreased calorie intake (which is normally a problem for dieters- teh body decreases t3 when you lower calories)

if you wanna use it for fat loss, try 50mcg then work your way up to 100, maybe as high as 150 if you feel like your comfortable and its necessary.

even at a 'high' doseage fo 100mcg per day, t3 wont do all the work for you, and you still need to keep your diet spot on. the only difference is that you will get flatter quicker as you lose fat faster, and will benefit from more frequent "refeeds" or "carb ups".

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2010, 11:43:07 PM »
trust me bro, t3 will not give you any issues at all. the myth is completely bro science, and there has never been any reason to believe that t3 would cause any negative effects to thyroid function.. regardless of how long or intense the t3 supplementation lasted.

and yes, t3 would be the best choice. eca and clen both lose effectiveness after a short while. with t3 there is no such loss of effects, and its more effective for fat loss too. 

25mcg is not enough to get the fat loss effects, that would only be enough to prevent a metabolic slow down due to decreased calorie intake (which is normally a problem for dieters- teh body decreases t3 when you lower calories)

if you wanna use it for fat loss, try 50mcg then work your way up to 100, maybe as high as 150 if you feel like your comfortable and its necessary.

even at a 'high' doseage fo 100mcg per day, t3 wont do all the work for you, and you still need to keep your diet spot on. the only difference is that you will get flatter quicker as you lose fat faster, and will benefit from more frequent "refeeds" or "carb ups".

ive used 75mcg pharm grade t3 and i was flat and looked like shit, but yea it worked. lol.

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2010, 12:25:53 AM »
personally i find eca decreases my appetite unlike clen or t3, so if I was to pick one I'd pick eca.  Plus its legal at least where I live, so you don't have to worry about someone making it in their bathtub or wherever.

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2010, 01:59:49 AM »
personally i find eca decreases my appetite unlike clen or t3, so if I was to pick one I'd pick eca.  Plus its legal at least where I live, so you don't have to worry about someone making it in their bathtub or wherever.


T3 and clenbuterol are not scheduled either. 

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2010, 11:42:04 AM »
personally i find eca decreases my appetite unlike clen or t3, so if I was to pick one I'd pick eca.  Plus its legal at least where I live, so you don't have to worry about someone making it in their bathtub or wherever.
there are alot of places to get legit, you dont have to worry about ug clen and t3

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2010, 12:04:26 PM »
T3

50-75mcg is all you should need with diet and cardio.

ECA is very stressful on your heart and keeps me up at night.

Clen made me feel like shit and gave me the shakes.


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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2010, 02:27:34 PM »
there are alot of places to get legit, you dont have to worry about ug clen and t3

this is news to me where do you get them from over the counter?

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2010, 02:53:35 PM »
this is news to me where do you get them from over the counter?

Not going to find clen in the US unless you order from a research chem site, or order over seas. T# can be found if you have a prescription, research chem site, or over seas. Both can be found HG.

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2010, 04:01:25 PM »
Not going to find clen in the US unless you order from a research chem site, or order over seas. T# can be found if you have a prescription, research chem site, or over seas. Both can be found HG.

Personally, I would not fuck with any research chems...Especiallly T3..It is a very fickle substance to dissolve and you may not be getting proper dosing as you would with tabs.

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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2010, 04:08:21 PM »
Personally, I would not fuck with any research chems...Especiallly T3..It is a very fickle substance to dissolve and you may not be getting proper dosing as you would with tabs.

HTH

Oh I agree completely. I wouldnt fuck with any stimulants either from research chem sites. Thanx for pointing this out, I should have been clear on this.

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2010, 06:03:43 PM »
Oh I agree completely. I wouldnt fuck with any stimulants either from research chem sites. Thanx for pointing this out, I should have been clear on this.

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2010, 11:52:13 PM »
this is news to me where do you get them from over the counter?
my wife has scripts and you can get from overseas, easily.

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2010, 08:21:09 AM »
thanks for the info guys so my original point stands that ephedrine has the advantage that you can simply buy it OTC from  any supplement shop whereas clen and t3 you can not lol

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2010, 03:15:54 PM »
ephedrine makes me moody, depressed, and gives me long periods of extreme fatigue. although it did help fat loss.

i do not think i will use it again, which is unfortunate as i have 1000 tabs or so of the fuckers  >:(

clen does nothing to me as i am an asthmatic, and t3 has been taken by me at 200mcg and also did nothing worth noting in regard to fat loss, just the same couple of pounds off each week that i was already losing with diet  :-\

dnp - gave me sides from hell, with again nothing worth noting regarding fat loss with again just the same couple of pounds off each week that i was already losing with diet.

only thing that works for me is lower calories and cardio - who knew  :D
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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2010, 03:57:11 PM »
ephedrine makes me moody, depressed, and gives me long periods of extreme fatigue. although it did help fat loss.

i do not think i will use it again, which is unfortunate as i have 1000 tabs or so of the fuckers  >:(

clen does nothing to me as i am an asthmatic, and t3 has been taken by me at 200mcg and also did nothing worth noting in regard to fat loss, just the same couple of pounds off each week that i was already losing with diet  :-\

dnp - gave me sides from hell, with again nothing worth noting regarding fat loss with again just the same couple of pounds off each week that i was already losing with diet.

only thing that works for me is lower calories and cardio - who knew  :D

LOL.  So diet and cardio works better for you than T3, Clen, DNP, and ephedrine?  LOL.  Hi Layne Norton!  Sounds like you got bunk shit! 

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2010, 04:09:47 PM »
ephedrine makes me moody, depressed, and gives me long periods of extreme fatigue. although it did help fat loss.

lol ECA is the best fat burner

and if you say no then you don't have legit ephedrine

infact when i was using ephedrine i felt godly and happy so..... you probably got estrogen pills instead


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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2010, 04:51:29 PM »
lol ECA is the best fat burner

and if you say no then you don't have legit ephedrine

infact when i was using ephedrine i felt godly and happy so..... you probably got estrogen pills instead



I agree real ephedrine is the shiznit. 

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2010, 09:59:22 PM »
200mcg of t3 and you didnt lose very much fat? Something isnt right with that

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2010, 10:00:52 PM »
I agree real ephedrine is the shiznit. 
i dont like the heart thumping nor the crash.

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2010, 10:05:56 PM »
T3 made me lose a shitload of mass  :( and i was sweating alot

probably cause i was stacking with eca

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2010, 11:42:00 AM »
perhaps i'm being misunderstood.

i agree eca is very good for fat burning ( only thing that does work on me in fact)- i simply find i get bad sides from it, depression, severe energy dips, my nuts even shrink on eca believe it or not.

my first few times running t3, i thought it must have been fake shit as i has never heard of anyone not getting fat loss from it, however i then used 100% legit t3 that was my mothers t3 that she got from a script from the docs. this is what i ran at 200mcg with nothing more than 2 pounds weight loss a week ( which i was already losing) and i was also only eating 1500 cals a day.

she also got t4 months before the doc switched her - which did nothing at all to me no matter how high i ran it.

also there is no way the dnp i had was fake. the sides were terrible, constant high temps - literally sweating buckets all day and night, neon yellow cum - the works i worked up to 800mg a day before the sides got too much and i stopped. ( 2 weeks)

again same couple of pounds fat loss i was already losing anyway.

i have no reason to lie about this, i'm only adding my piece.

everyone has different genetics and responses to drugs - i just seem to be a fat storing/hording machine. on a plus note though if ww3 breaks out and everyone is starving, i'll be ok  ;D

i had thought that me being an asthmatic may have something to do with it. i know that clen does not work for fat loss for this reason ( as my body is used to taking a salbutamol inhaler). i have ran clen in extremely high dosages and never even got shakes.
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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2010, 04:34:13 AM »
200MCG OF T3...OMFG... ::)

Who the fuck needs that much.

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2010, 05:09:24 AM »
T3 made me lose a shitload of mass  :( and i was sweating alot

probably cause i was stacking with eca
Were you on anabolics ?

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Re: clen, t3 or eca
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2010, 05:13:20 AM »
Were you on anabolics ?


ive used 75mcg and on anabolics made me like an aids patient. lol