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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: SgtSpar on August 29, 2010, 07:40:53 PM
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Toney vs Couture looked exactly like every MMA guy in the world said it would. Boxers and all the shit they talked about how an MMA guy wouldn't have a chance against a good boxer could man up and apologize for being morons, but you know what will happen? Let the excuses begin.
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toney was ranked #52 in the world when he fought couture.
Lets see how couture would do against a top 10 ranked boxer. He would get his head knocked off.
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toney was ranked #52 in the world when he fought couture.
Lets see how couture would do against a top 10 ranked boxer. He would get his head knocked off.
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Toney didn't even throw a single punch standing up, what makes you think any other boxer with limited grappling skills will be any different when Couture (or anyone with his background in wrestling) shoots for a single leg takedown? It's going to be the same exact outcome 99% of the time
It will be the same result when Gracie pwned that boxer almost twenty years ago, what Couture proved yesterday, and twenty years in the future if the boxer has that poor of takedown defense versus an experienced grappler like Gracie/Couture.
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Couture against a 20 year old Tyson wouldn't even be funny. Now Couture against an average or subpar heavyweight what do you expect? There hasn't been a decent heavyweight for how many years? Toney is/was a fucking joke.
Plus in the street a heavy weight boxer would demolish a guy like Couture anyways. People that extrapolate what they see in a padded octagon to a real life street fight are retards. It's easy to throw kicks when you are in your barefeet on a nice flat, padded surface with shorts on. It's easy not having to worry about your surroundings when you're in a perfectly round octagon with net sides and great lighting. LOL......MMA fighting is so far removed from real fighting it's hilarious. So of course a boxer isn't going to do much against a Couture MMAer. That's like putting a rugby player up against a basketball player.
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Now that MMA has beaten boxing, does it prove that MMA isn't just a bunch of unskilled barbarians?
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toney was ranked #52 in the world when he fought couture.
Lets see how couture would do against a top 10 ranked boxer. He would get his head knocked off.
Erm, no he wouldn't.
In a boxing ring with boxing rules yes, - in an Octagon however, highly unlikely. Okay, everyone has a puncher's chance but once that boxer is on the floor and fighting to avoid submission, it's all over.
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When your biggest fans are women and teenagers yeah it's definitely a kick ass sport! ::)
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I think it comes down to this..MMA fighters can't compete with boxers hands and footwork, just in the same respect boxers can't compete with MMA fighters grappling, takedowns, clinch, ground game, kicks, knees..
fair enough?
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Couture against a 20 year old Tyson wouldn't even be funny. Now Couture against an average or subpar heavyweight what do you expect? There hasn't been a decent heavyweight for how many years? Toney is/was a fucking joke.
Plus in the street a heavy weight boxer would demolish a guy like Couture anyways. People that extrapolate what they see in a padded octagon to a real life street fight are retards. It's easy to throw kicks when you are in your barefeet on a nice flat, padded surface with shorts on. It's easy not having to worry about your surroundings when you're in a perfectly round octagon with net sides and great lighting. LOL......MMA fighting is so far removed from real fighting it's hilarious. So of course a boxer isn't going to do much against a Couture MMAer. That's like putting a rugby player up against a basketball player.
Serious question: How is MMA, which places far, far less rules and restrictions on their athletes than boxing so far removed from a real fight that it's "hilarious" when presumably a street fight means no rules?
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I think it comes down to this..MMA fighters can't compete with boxers hands and footwork, just in the same respect boxers can't compete with MMA fighters grappling, takedowns, clinch, ground game, kicks, knees..
fair enough?
Some MMA fighters have become pro boxers though.
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I think it comes down to this..MMA fighters can't compete with boxers hands and footwork, just in the same respect boxers can't compete with MMA fighters grappling, takedowns, clinch, ground game, kicks, knees..
fair enough?
I have noticed that MMA fans as well as MMA fighters themselves have no problem admitting that they would get crushed by a boxer if they stepped into the ring fighting under boxing rules. I also find it curious that it is the boxing fans, such as McMannus and Avery, that presume to speak for pro boxers, that claim that a boxer, of equal skill to an MMA fighter would beat them under any rules -- MMA or no rules street fighting. I have never heard, nor do I think I will ever hear, a top ranked pro boxer saying he could beat an MMA fighter in the Octagon or in the street. I think they are far more aware than most the limitation of their sport.
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Some MMA fighters have become pro boxers though.
They are not in the league of "great" boxers...that's like saying Peter Putnam is a Pro bodybuilder, yes he is, but he couldn't even hold Derek Farnsworth's thong...
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I have noticed that MMA fans as well as MMA fighters themselves have no problem admitting that they would get crushed by a boxer if they stepped into the ring fighting under boxing rules. I also find it curious that it is the boxing fans, such as McMannus and Avery, that presume to speak for pro boxers, that claim that a boxer, of equal skill to an MMA fighter would beat them under any rules -- MMA or no rules street fighting. I have never heard, nor do I think I will ever hear, a top ranked pro boxer saying he could beat an MMA fighter in the Octagon or in the street. I think they are far more aware than most the limitation of their sport.
LOL.....So you're saying there is no difference between a pro boxer fighting someone in the street vs. fighting someone in an octagon with rules and a nice soft mat with which you can go to the ground on? If a parking lot an MMA fighters ground game is practically eliminated. Western boxing is one of the most formidable styles of fighting to know in a real fight. Plus all a boxer has to do if some MMA guy tries to grab him or put a lock no him or some other gay shit on the ground is pull a Tyson holyfield and bite his ear off. LMAO!
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Anyone who thinks this shit is practical and realistic in a real fight out in the street, a parking lot, a bar, etc. needs their head checked. ::)
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Of course it's a legit sport, MMA = sport. Bodybuilding= not so much.
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LOL.....So you're saying there is no difference between a pro boxer fighting someone in the street vs. fighting someone in an octagon with rules and a nice soft mat with which you can go to the ground on? If a parking lot an MMA fighters ground game is practically eliminated. Western boxing is one of the most formidable styles of fighting to know in a real fight. Plus all a boxer has to do if some MMA guy tries to grab him or put a lock no him or some other gay shit on the ground is pull a Tyson holyfield and bite his ear off. LMAO!
You're a spa
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I'm sure an MMA fighter would have no problem doing this shit on concrete, in a bar or in a parking lot? LMAO!
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Serious question: How is MMA, which places far, far less rules and restrictions on their athletes than boxing so far removed from a real fight that it's "hilarious" when presumably a street fight means no rules?
You teach a boxer like Vladamir Klitschkoe basic defense against kicks and put him in a no holds barred gloveless fight against an MMA guy in a parking lot and I GUARANTEE the MMA guy would get his ass kicked.
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LOL.....So you're saying there is no difference between a pro boxer fighting someone in the street vs. fighting someone in an octagon with rules and a nice soft mat with which you can go to the ground on? If a parking lot an MMA fighters ground game is practically eliminated. Western boxing is one of the most formidable styles of fighting to know in a real fight. Plus all a boxer has to do if some MMA guy tries to grab him or put a lock no him or some other gay shit on the ground is pull a Tyson holyfield and bite his ear off. LMAO!
Well, you didn't answer my simple and direct question so I will pose it again just in case it wasn't clear. Why would a fighting style which places far more restrictions on a person's ability to defend himself be more effective than a style that has far less restrictions in a street fight where there are no restrictions.
And another question, and I'm simply going to have to trust your honesty and integrity, how many street fights have you had in you life? I can say that just getting through the 10th grade in the Hawaii public school system alone I probably had about 20. I recently, six months ago, had an altercation in a parking lot and it went to the ground. I effortlessly mounted, drop some B's on the thug, as he turned around on his stomach I didn't choke him out just yet, I grinded his face into the asphalt a bit so that his face will look very nice the next day. Then I choked him unconscious. My ears, or any other part of me, were never in danger of being bitten.
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Well, you didn't answer my simply and direct question so I will pose it again just in case it wasn't clear. Why would a fighting style which places far more restrictions on a person's ability to defend himself be more effective than a style that has far less restrictions in a street fight where there are no restrictions.
And another question, and I'm simply going to have to trust your honesty and integrity, how many street fights have you had in you life? I can say that just getting through the 10th grade in the Hawaii public school system alone I probably had about 20. I recently, six months ago, had an altercation in a parking lot and it went to the ground. I effortlessly mounted, drop some B's on the thug, as he turned around on his stomach I didn't choke him out just yet, I grinded his face into the asphalt a bit so that his face will look very nice the next day. Then I choked him unconscious. My ears, or any other part of me, were never in danger of being bitten.
You obviously didn't watch the video I just posted. You act like a boxer is only going to punch in a street fight. Look at the boxer in the above video. He's kicking as well. Look at the MMA guy go to the ground and drop on his back. Yeah that's very realistic in a street fight ::)
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You teach a boxer like Vladamir Klitschkoe basic defense against kicks and put him in a no holds barred gloveless fight against an MMA guy in a parking lot and I GUARANTEE the MMA guy would get his ass kicked.
So you admit that a boxer would have to expand his skill set to have a chance with an MMA fighter. I have no problem with that. All else being equal, say two clones, a Mike Tyson1 against a Mike Tyson2 with D1 wrestling skills, Muy Thai, Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt... Mike Tyson1 wouldn't have a prayer.
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Randy C said himself he would never have fought a 21 year old Mike Tyson under any rules as he had scary power, speed and was just plain scary!
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But to answer the original q, yeh mma v boxer 99% of the time will easily be an mma win. Boxings dead.
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You obviously didn't watch the video I just posted. You act like a boxer is only going to punch in a street fight. Look at the boxer in the above video. He's kicking as well. Look at the MMA guy go to the ground and drop on his back. Yeah that's very realistic in a street fight ::)
One video means nothing. Your argument is about a boxer. When you say boxer I assume you mean a pure American boxer. In American boxing there are no kicks. Once a boxer kicks then he becomes a kick boxer and yes I believe, all else being equal, a kick boxer is superior in no holds bar fighting than a boxer.
You might as well say, "You act like a boxer is only going to punch in a street fight. Look at this video where he does a single leg, mounts, and finishes off his opponent with an Americana."
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Randy C said himself he would never have fought a 21 year old Mike Tyson under any rules as he had scary power, speed and was just plain scary!
QFT. And again I want to bring up the point I made earlier that MMA fighter and fans freely admit that an MMA fighter has no chance against a boxer in the ring, or anywhere else, fighting under boxing rules. It's the boxing fans, never the boxers themselves, that presume to speak for the real athletes and make these meaningless comparisons and boasts about the superiority of boxing in a street fight.
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These threads are fucking gay, give up this stupid arguement.
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These threads are fucking gay, give up this stupid arguement.
Participation or even noticing threads like these are purely optional, my friend.
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One video means nothing. Your argument is about a boxer. When you say boxer I assume you mean a pure American boxer. In American boxing there is no kicks. Once a boxer kicks then he becomes a kick boxer and yes I believe, all else being equal, a kick boxer is superior in no holds bar fighting than a boxer.
You might as well say, "You act like a boxer is only going to punch in a street fight. Look at this video where he does a single leg, mounts, and finishes off his opponent with an Americana."
::) Let's put it this way slick.....I'd rather be an expert in boxing and a novice in kicking and grappling in a street fight vs. being a novice in boxing and an expert in kicking and grappling. It's doesn't take years and years of training to learn how to kick. Nor does it take years and years of training to learn how to grapple and most of the time in a real fight grappling isn't very effective. Hence, when it comes down to it....I'd much rather be able to throw some powerful fucking punches on some motherfuckers, with speed and precision. A good boxer is 10x faster than your best MMA guy at throwing a solid punch. A jab is one of the most effective skills in a fight short of kicking. Plus boxers are used to taking punches to the head. This silly debate could go on and on. Put Randy Couture in a parking lot and a Mike Tyson and the latter would fucking destroy the former. That's about as realistic as MMA fighting is in the street. In other words let me put it to you in fucking retard terms so you can understand........put the BEST that boxing has to offer i.e. MIKE TYSON vs. the best that MMA has to offer aka Chuck Liddell or Couture or jackass Jackson and Tyson would destroy any of them. That's my point. James Toney is probably the worst boxing has to offer going up against the best MMA has to offer.
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Participation or even noticing threads like these are purely optional, my friend.
Could we at least make a sticky and just have one gigantic BOXING V. MMA Thread, This is the new Dorian vs. Ronnie on Getbig.
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So you admit that a boxer would have to expand his skill set to have a chance with an MMA fighter. I have no problem with that. All else being equal, say two clones, a Mike Tyson1 against a Mike Tyson2 with D1 wrestling skills, Muy Thai, Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt... Mike Tyson1 wouldn't have a prayer.
Dude of course they would have to expand their skill set a little bit. I'm talking a few weeks of training not years. I mean dude otherwise the entire debate makes no sense. Like I said in my other thread a great boxer with a little bit of kicking skill and grappling skill would demolish a great grappler or kicker with a little bit of boxing skill. All else being equal. Western boxing is probably one of the best skills to have in general in a fight. Most fights don't last more than a few seconds.
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it depends. kh went after him like a guy in a street fight. it depends. either way if you arent trained you dont wont to fight either. see kimbo FL fights and MMA who ko'ed guy who hit girl.
bye.
as noted put anderson silva in a gym in detroit a yr and put a top
MW boxer in chute box for a yr = ??? in a fight
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Boxers do everything they can to stay on their feet in a fight......most MMA guys sole goal is to go to the ground. Now in a real street fight on concrete which would you rather be better at? Going to the ground or staying on your feet able to throw powerful, fast punches. Size also matters. If I'm 6'5 and I'm fighting some midget grappler who is 5'9 and I'm a great boxer....the poor little fucker wouldn't have a chance. LOL......again size matters. That's why James Toney and Randy Couture were pretty much equal in size and stature.
Ask me this question......why did the MMA instill weight classes and why are most matches evenly paired up these days? How come you never see a BJ Penn going up against a dude twice his size? Because he'd get his ass handed to him. The MMA has completely changed what the previous point of the idea was.
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Dude no one is really paying attention to your gay ass pictures. Fuck off!
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stan lee would have a heart attack.
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You teach a boxer like Vladamir Klitschkoe basic defense against kicks and put him in a no holds barred gloveless fight against an MMA guy in a parking lot and I GUARANTEE the MMA guy would get his ass kicked.
It's not the kicks he has to worry about. The boxer has no idea how to defend against anything but punches standing up.
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::) Let's put it this way slick.....I'd rather be an expert in boxing and a novice in kicking and grappling in a street fight vs. being a novice in boxing and an expert in kicking and grappling. It's doesn't take years and years of training to learn how to kick. Nor does it take years and years of training to learn how to grapple and most of the time in a real fight grappling isn't very effective. Hence, when it comes down to it....I'd much rather be able to throw some powerful fucking punches on some motherfuckers, with speed and precision. A good boxer is 10x faster than your best MMA guy at throwing a solid punch. A jab is one of the most effective skills in a fight short of kicking. Plus boxers are used to taking punches to the head. This silly debate could go on and on. Put Randy Couture in a parking lot and a Mike Tyson and the latter would fucking destroy the former. That's about as realistic as MMA fighting is in the street. In other words let me put it to you in fucking retard terms so you can understand........put the BEST that boxing has to offer i.e. MIKE TYSON vs. the best that MMA has to offer aka Chuck Liddell or Couture or jackass Jackson and Tyson would destroy any of them. That's my point. James Toney is probably the worst boxing has to offer going up against the best MMA has to offer.
I see now why you garner so little respect on this board. All your arguments are emotion based. Your responses are emotionally charged. You are unable to answer a simple question with a logical, reasoned and coherent response. You simply rant. You are like a woman. That probably explains why you gravitated towards a woman's profession. I'm sure I probably have been in more street fights by the time I was twelve than you had in your entire life. In my adult life the majority of the street fights I have been in have been parking lots. There has been altercations in bathrooms and I guess what could be called alleys and some in beaches and parks. There is plenty of room to clinch and wrestle and go to the ground. There often isn't very much room, as in the bathroom, to do any fancy foot work or bob, weave and jab.
Because you lack any semblance of rationality and logic and simply emote like a woman, I'm going to have to dismiss you. There is no point in trying to reason with someone who lacks the ability to reason. But I will do you a favor and tell you something that your daddy, if you had one, should have told you and perhaps could have saved you from the homosexual experiences you have had that has left you confused and ambivalent and maybe even gotten you into a male profession. And that is simply to tell you to "ACT LIKE A MAN!"
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Dude no one is really paying attention to your gay ass pictures. Fuck off!
is there something musclemennus
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I see now why you garner so little respect on this board. All your arguments are emotion based. Your responses are emotionally charged. You are unable to answer a simple question with a logical, reasoned and coherent response. You simply rant. You are like a woman. That probably explains why you gravitated towards a woman's profession. I'm sure I probably have been in more street fights by the time I was twelve than you had in your entire life. In my adult life the majority of the street fights I have been in have been parking lots. There has been altercations in bathrooms and I guess what could be called alleys and some in beaches and parks. There is plenty of room to clinch and wrestle and go to the ground. There often isn't very much room, as in the bathroom, to do any fancy foot work or bob, weave and jab.
Because you lack any semblance of rationality and logic and simply emote like a woman, I'm going to have to dismiss you. There is no point in trying to reason with someone who lacks the ability to reason. But I will do you a favor and tell you something that your daddy, if you had one, should have told you and perhaps could have saved you from the homosexual experiences you have had that has left you confused and ambivalent and maybe even gotten you into a male profession. And that is simply to tell you to "ACT LIKE A MAN!"
Haha you're a fucking retard. Aren't you the same fag older dude that trains with bands in school playgrounds and went on and on about a gorrilla vs. bear thread? At least I have a fucking job you epic fucking loser. You're probably a grown ass man with no life, no woman and no income. How old are you tough guy? 45?
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MMA is Too Legit to quit.
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Haha you're a fucking retard. Aren't you the same fag older dude that trains with bands in school playgrounds and went on and on about a gorrilla vs. bear thread? At least I have a fucking job you epic fucking loser. You're probably a grown ass man with no life, no woman and no income. How old are you tough guy? 45?
Actually, I was never on the thread you speak of. Never been in a band. I'm an engineer. I live on the beach in Hawaii, the most expensive State in the Union. But, you're right, I am old. Just turned 50. This is a pic of my old and decrepit body taken a few days ago. I'm sure you could put me to shame with your polish, fighting ready, physique. Post one up, nurse.
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is there someone who could touch you pellius
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is there someone who could touch you pellius
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I see now why you garner so little respect on this board. All your arguments are emotion based. Your responses are emotionally charged. You are unable to answer a simple question with a logical, reasoned and coherent response. You simply rant. You are like a woman.
McMannus is a troll. It's his game. He's not supposed to make any sense. :o
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McMannus is a troll. It's his game. He's not supposed to make any sense. :o
LOL. I think he's serious. But he is also a woman trapped in a man's body (I use the term "man's body" very loosely here).
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LOL. I think he's serious. But he is also a woman trapped in a man's body (I use the term "man's body" very loosely here).
If he's serious, he needs to check himself into the psych ward of the hospital he works at. ;D
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If he's serious, he needs to check himself into the psych ward of the hospital he works at. ;D
You know, on second thought you might be right. He gets so brutally owned on every thread he goes on that he may just be a troll putting on an act. I remember even Swede humiliating him not long ago.
I guess it's safe to say he won't be posting any of his pics anytime soon.
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Actually, I was never on the thread you speak of. Never been in a band. I'm an engineer. I live on the beach in Hawaii, the most expensive State in the Union. But, you're right, I am old. Just turned 50. This is a pic of my old and decrepit body taken a few days ago. I'm sure you could put me to shame with your polish, fighting ready, physique. Post one up, nurse.
Haha get a fucking life you pathetic fucking loser. You're 50 fucking years old and you're posting on a fucking board where the average age is probably 25. You and noworries should hook up. You both have so much in common. He could be your big hairy muscle bear and you could be his little bottom boy twink. You're fucking tiny and your midsection looks like that of a fucking starving African. Seriously, at 50 years old don't you have anything better to do? Wife? Gf? Kids? Or all people from Hawaii fucking losers like you?
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You know, on second thought you might be right. He gets so brutally owned on every thread he goes on that he may just be a troll putting on an act. I remember even Swede humiliating him not long ago.
I guess it's safe to say he won't be posting any of his pics anytime soon.
Well if I've been brutally owned on every thread it's safe to say you've been fucking anally raped in just about every thread you post in. Haha I'm 30 years old dipshit.
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It's not the kicks he has to worry about. The boxer has no idea how to defend against anything but punches standing up.
Umm you can't hit anyone on the back of the head in MMA hence why an MMA fighter can get away with going in for the take down. one swift hammer punch or regular punch to the back of the head of someone trying to go for your legs it's lights out! :'(
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Haha get a fucking life you pathetic fucking loser. You're 50 fucking years old and you're posting on a fucking board where the average age is probably 25. You and noworries should hook up. You both have so much in common. He could be your big hairy muscle bear and you could be his little bottom boy twink. You're fucking tiny and your midsection looks like that of a fucking starving African. Seriously, at 50 years old don't you have anything better to do? Wife? Gf? Kids? Or all people from Hawaii fucking losers like you?
But yet you will never show how great a 30 year old specimen like you looks like. Isn't time to change some bed pans, honey?
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Boxers do everything they can to stay on their feet in a fight......most MMA guys sole goal is to go to the ground. Now in a real street fight on concrete which would you rather be better at? Going to the ground or staying on your feet able to throw powerful, fast punches. Size also matters. If I'm 6'5 and I'm fighting some midget grappler who is 5'9 and I'm a great boxer....the poor little fucker wouldn't have a chance. LOL......again size matters. That's why James Toney and Randy Couture were pretty much equal in size and stature.
Ask me this question......why did the MMA instill weight classes and why are most matches evenly paired up these days? How come you never see a BJ Penn going up against a dude twice his size? Because he'd get his ass handed to him. The MMA has completely changed what the previous point of the idea was.
You're right, boxers do everything they can to stay on their feet. How did that work for Toney? Toney and his trainers say he worked 2 hours a day for 9 months just on take down defense. There is your "little tweaking". BTW, Couture never threw a kick. Not one. Tell me one thing, just one, that would have gone differently if that fight had happened in a parking lot instead of the cage. No matter where that fight happened, Couture gets the takedown, the boxer is completely unable to defend himself on the ground, boxer gets beaten senseless. Couture could have beaten on Toney for the entire fight instead of tapping him out to save him the punishment. Did you notice the only person landing punches that entire fighter? Here is a hint: it wasn't the boxer. As far as you "guaranteeing" a tall boxer beats the shorter MMA guy, that is beyond absurd. It has been proven over and over that a boxer cannot stop the MMA guy from taking him down. Being taller isn't going to stop that.
When MMA did have weight classes, a 170 lb guy was winning all the fights. The reason they added weight classes was for the same reason they added time limits. Pay-per-view sells a certain time block. For a 150lb fighter to beat a 250lb fighter takes much longer. Royce's fight with Dan Severn went over 15 minutes. Some of Helio Gracie's fights were more than 3 hours when they had a huge size difference.
BTW, the only people that think an MMA guy's "sole goal is to go to the ground" are people that don't train in it and don't have a clue. They are just repeating the same old worn out excuses that everyone uses, in spite of the fact that it isn't true.
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Toney is an out of shape, fat, average professional boxer. Terrible representation of what a real boxer is all about. I mean look at the guy. He's a slob. Just like that other fool who Kimbo. If a real boxer that was serious about training entered into the MMA he'd be a serious contender.
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But yet you will never show how great a 30 year old specimen like you looks like. Isn't time to change some bed pans, honey?
No because I wouldn't want old man fags like you drooling over my picture. You'd probably shop it around to all your other 50 year old pillow biter friends. No thanks. Now I understand why you hang out on getbig. You probably troll for 20 something homos to seduce through the internet.
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::) Let's put it this way slick.....I'd rather be an expert in boxing and a novice in kicking and grappling in a street fight vs. being a novice in boxing and an expert in kicking and grappling. It's doesn't take years and years of training to learn how to kick. Nor does it take years and years of training to learn how to grapple and most of the time in a real fight grappling isn't very effective. Hence, when it comes down to it....I'd much rather be able to throw some powerful fucking punches on some motherfuckers, with speed and precision. A good boxer is 10x faster than your best MMA guy at throwing a solid punch. A jab is one of the most effective skills in a fight short of kicking. Plus boxers are used to taking punches to the head. This silly debate could go on and on. Put Randy Couture in a parking lot and a Mike Tyson and the latter would fucking destroy the former. That's about as realistic as MMA fighting is in the street. In other words let me put it to you in fucking retard terms so you can understand........put the BEST that boxing has to offer i.e. MIKE TYSON vs. the best that MMA has to offer aka Chuck Liddell or Couture or jackass Jackson and Tyson would destroy any of them. That's my point. James Toney is probably the worst boxing has to offer going up against the best MMA has to offer.
Every word of this is retarded. What you would "rather be" is irrelevant to the discussion. Its take longer to learn to kick well than to punch well. Thats why there are lots of great punchers, few great kickers. People use their hands every day constantly. They are much more coordinated than your legs.
Its does take years of training to be a great grappler. The best in MMA have been wrestling or training BJJ since they were small children. With no rules, no time limits, in real fights in the most violent cities in the world, BJJ reigns supreme.
A good boxer is 10x faster? Retarded.
Couture and Tyson would look just like aby boxer vs MMA guy: Boxer gets taken down, is completely helpless, gets beaten until the MMA guy is tired of beating on him.
James Toney has almost 70 fights, 44 knockouts and has never been stopped in a fight. Couture is almost 50 years old, has a 15-8 record, and hasn't been the top of the sport for tears now, if ever. Toney is the worst boxing has to offer against the best MMA has to offer? Proof that you are clueless. Put any boxer in the world ANY boxer against the best MMA has to offer, Lesnar, Fedor, GSP, the same thing happens. Boxing gets another black eye.
Now, as Pellius said, try actually answering the post instead of going off on one of your emotional Bitch rants where all you do is name call and spew garbage instead of answering any of the points made.
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Toney is an out of shape, fat, average professional boxer. Terrible representation of what a real boxer is all about. I mean look at the guy. He's a slob. Just like that other fool who Kimbo. If a real boxer that was serious about training entered into the MMA he'd be a serious contender.
He trained 5 to 6 hours a day for 9 months for this fight. He has 44 knockouts out of 60+ fights and has never been stopped in a fight. Couture is 15-8.
Kimbo was not a boxer, he was a backyard brawler. Same result though.
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Every word of this is retarded. What you would "rather be" is irrelevant to the discussion. Its take longer to learn to kick well than to punch well. Thats why there are lots of great punchers, few great kickers. People use their hands every day constantly. They are much more coordinated than your legs.
Its does take years of training to be a great grappler. The best in MMA have been wrestling or training BJJ since they were small children. With no rules, no time limits, in real fights in the most violent cities in the world, BJJ reigns supreme.
A good boxer is 10x faster? Retarded.
Couture and Tyson would look just like aby boxer vs MMA guy: Boxer gets taken down, is completely helpless, gets beaten until the MMA guy is tired of beating on him.
James Toney has almost 70 fights, 44 knockouts and has never been stopped in a fight. Couture is almost 50 years old, has a 15-8 record, and hasn't been the top of the sport for tears now, if ever. Toney is the worst boxing has to offer against the best MMA has to offer? Proof that you are clueless. Put any boxer in the world ANY boxer against the best MMA has to offer, Lesnar, Fedor, GSP, the same thing happens. Boxing gets another black eye.
Now, as Pellius said, try actually answering the post instead of going off on one of your emotional Bitch rants where all you do is name call and spew garbage instead of answering any of the points made.
LOL you've actually never trained in martial arts or boxing. Haha Toney a formidable boxer..... ::) Go back to eating donuts fatty.
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He trained 5 to 6 hours a day for 9 months for this fight. He has 44 knockouts out of 60+ fights and has never been stopped in a fight. Couture is 15-8.
Kimbo was not a boxer, he was a backyard brawler. Same result though.
Dude who the fuck cares look at his fucking physique. The dude is a fucking fat slob. He obviously didn't train hard enough. Shit man you are fucking dumb! Either that are you are a fat slob yourself who has no clue what it means to be in shape. The guy has fucking man boobs.
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Dude who the fuck cares look at his fucking physique. The dude is a fucking fat slob. He obviously didn't train hard enough. Shit man you are fucking dumb! Either that are you are a fat slob yourself who has no clue what it means to be in shape. The guy has fucking man boobs.
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if you're not a gimmick then honestly, seek help ... seriously..
sticking to your word is one thing but this is retarded man.. I still think youi're a gimmick. No other explination..
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You're right, boxers do everything they can to stay on their feet. How did that work for Toney? Toney and his trainers say he worked 2 hours a day for 9 months just on take down defense. There is your "little tweaking". BTW, Couture never threw a kick. Not one. Tell me one thing, just one, that would have gone differently if that fight had happened in a parking lot instead of the cage. No matter where that fight happened, Couture gets the takedown, the boxer is completely unable to defend himself on the ground, boxer gets beaten senseless. Couture could have beaten on Toney for the entire fight instead of tapping him out to save him the punishment. Did you notice the only person landing punches that entire fighter? Here is a hint: it wasn't the boxer. As far as you "guaranteeing" a tall boxer beats the shorter MMA guy, that is beyond absurd. It has been proven over and over that a boxer cannot stop the MMA guy from taking him down. Being taller isn't going to stop that.
When MMA did have weight classes, a 170 lb guy was winning all the fights. The reason they added weight classes was for the same reason they added time limits. Pay-per-view sells a certain time block. For a 150lb fighter to beat a 250lb fighter takes much longer. Royce's fight with Dan Severn went over 15 minutes. Some of Helio Gracie's fights were more than 3 hours when they had a huge size difference.
BTW, the only people that think an MMA guy's "sole goal is to go to the ground" are people that don't train in it and don't have a clue. They are just repeating the same old worn out excuses that everyone uses, in spite of the fact that it isn't true.
Couture kicking tubby in the head till he's dead, no ref to stop Couture from making the tubby shit himself, Couture pissing on him after he smacks the dumb out of his mumbling fat ass.......I'm pretty sure you can think of a few ;D
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Couture kicking tubby in the head till he's dead, no ref to stop Couture from making the tubby shit himself, Couture pissing on him after he smacks the dumb out of his mumbling fat ass.......I'm pretty sure you can think of a few ;D
I wonder of toney realises if that hapopen in a "real" fight couture would just have held the choke and ....killed him..
...Could have killed if if he Wanted to lol.
Can you imagine if boxing actually won how much shit they would talk, now every mma fan knew this was going to happen yet everyone is still respectful and gives him props for even daring to do it, imagine if it was the other way around.
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Titus owns the cage
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if you're not a gimmick then honestly, seek help ... seriously..
sticking to your word is one thing but this is retarded man.. I still think youi're a gimmick. No other explination..
The reason this McAnus is such a joke around here and gets no respect is that he insist on speaking with authority on something he knows nothing about. Reading some of his comments and scenarios about what would happen in a "real" fight makes it abundantly clear that he's never been in a "real" fight and knows nothing about fighting and combat sports. He's the typical know-it-all arm chair athlete presuming to speak for professional boxers, none whom makes the claims he does. He is fall better suited to changing bed pans, passing out lunch trays, and giving sponge baths to wrinkly old men.
There is something very feminine about this bottom biitch.
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Toney is stationary, hes not the type of boxer to use alot of footmovement which would help alot in MMA
He was a great champion like 15 years ago but now hes just an average boxer, the only reason hes a heavyweight in the first place is because he loves to eat.
His best weight was at 168lbs so by no means is he a natural heavyweight, just a blown up one.
MMA beats boxing in a street fight but Toney was a bad boxing representative for MMA vs boxing
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No because I wouldn't want old man fags like you drooling over my picture. You'd probably shop it around to all your other 50 year old pillow biter friends. No thanks. Now I understand why you hang out on getbig. You probably troll for 20 something homos to seduce through the internet.
No, it's because you know, I know, and the rest of the board knows that you don't look like you've ever pick up a weight in your entire life. This is a bodybuilding board where people show what kind of shape they are in. That's one of the reasons why you're here and will look at every picture thread without hesitation. You're using the oldest excuse and the biggest cop out in the book. Thinking homos will "drool" over you. Like you wouldn't enjoy and get off on that. You can easily post non-droolable pics and you would if you were in any kind of shape. But you're not so you won't. Just like you are not, and never have been a fighter.
This is GetBig where we weed out the liars and poseurs. That is why no one, NO ONE, respects you and considers you a joke with a lot of disturbing feminine characteristics. Now go back to putting on your nurse's skirt and sticking thermos in old men's rectums.
BTW queer, I've been meaning to tell you: "You're a queer!"
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I prefer boxing.
Both mma and boxing have their specific charm.
If I had to learn one it would chose boxing because the aura of mma is not exactly to my liking and I think one needs to be experienced in many fighting skills to attain the right to train for mma.
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Dude who the fuck cares look at his fucking physique. The dude is a fucking fat slob. He obviously didn't train hard enough. Shit man you are fucking dumb! Either that are you are a fat slob yourself who has no clue what it means to be in shape. The guy has fucking man boobs.
You are a fat fucking slob and you are the baddest dude on Getbig. Tell us one of your fables lies stories about how you best up 5 guys. Show that video of another guy fighting and telling us thats how you are. Come on we need some funny stuff fromn you again.
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If the question is: can an elite boxer beat an elite Mixed Martial Artist in a "real" fight, then the answer is quite simple. Fighting in a UFC cage is as close to a "real" fight as we're going to get, and Randy Couture, a past his prime MMA guy, just humiliated James Toney, a passed his prime boxer.
Bottom line, a mixed martial artist usually has world-class skills in some form of martial arts (usually BJJ or wrestling) and has developed other areas to a decent enough level. The result? Being able to effectively use fists, elbows, knees, legs and chokes either standing or on the ground.
All a boxer has is the ability to throw punches on his feet.
In a "real" fight it would be no contest.
End of argument!
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If the question is: can an elite boxer beat an elite Mixed Martial Artist in a "real" fight, then the answer is quite simple. Fighting in a UFC cage is as close to a "real" fight as we're going to get, and Randy Couture, a past his prime MMA guy, just humiliated James Toney, a passed his prime boxer.
Bottom line, a mixed martial artist usually has world-class skills in some form of martial arts (usually BJJ or wrestling) and has developed other areas to a decent enough level. The result? Being able to effectively use fists, elbows, knees, legs and chokes either standing or on the ground.
All a boxer has is the ability to throw punches on his feet.
In a "real" fight it would be no contest.
End of argument!
End of argument is right , Boxer loses excuses flow like wine until the next boxer gets beat
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Couture kicking tubby in the head till he's dead, no ref to stop Couture from making the tubby shit himself, Couture pissing on him after he smacks the dumb out of his mumbling fat ass.......I'm pretty sure you can think of a few ;D
Yeah, no kidding. I guess I should have said name one thing that would have happened that would be BETTER for Toney. If it was a real fight, lots of worse things would have happened.
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LOL you've actually never trained in martial arts or boxing. Haha Toney a formidable boxer..... ::) Go back to eating donuts fatty.
Nice try you fuocking tool, except I've been training MAs for more than 20 years and I still train in boxing and BJJ. So Toney sucks? Address the fact that he has almost 70 fights, 44 KO's and has never been stopped in a fight. I know that is nothing compared to your record of sniffing 75 bedpans in one day, but its something.
Your posts like this, where you never once address an actual issue, just invent a bunch of shit like I'm fat and eat donuts is why everyone thinks you're a fuckin' tard.
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You are a fat fucking slob and you are the baddest dude on Getbig. Tell us one of your fables lies stories about how you best up 5 guys. Show that video of another guy fighting and telling us thats how you are. Come on we need some funny stuff fromn you again.
I know I'm late to the party but I had no idea what a delusional assclown this phony is. Anybody that has spent any time in the ring, mat or street knows this guy has no clue, not a single clue, as to what real fighting is like.
Another GetBig poseur trying to pass himself off as something he's not. No wonder he's just a target for scorn and ridicule on this board. Homos like this just ask for it.
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"I have a wrestling background. I'm going to go out and try to close the distance and put him on his back; take him out of that boxing realm." - Randy Couture, with a genius gameplan. (Bloody Elbow)
"I can knock out from my back. I do have that kind of power." - James Toney, through a translator.
"I seen fear. I smelled it, too." - Toney, on Couture or projecting?
"I can knock him out, or I can choke him out – either, or." - Toney
"I had no illusions of trying to stand up with Toney. I pulled off the low single leg because it is really hard to counter that with a punch." - Couture
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Nice try you fuocking tool, except I've been training MAs for more than 20 years and I still train in boxing and BJJ. So Toney sucks? Address the fact that he has almost 70 fights, 44 KO's and has never been stopped in a fight. I know that is nothing compared to your record of sniffing 75 bedpans in one day, but its something.
Your posts like this, where you never once address an actual issue, just invent a bunch of shit like I'm fat and eat donuts is why everyone thinks you're a fuckin' tard.
LOL!!!
That's what I love about GetBig. It doesn't take long for a phony, fraud, liar or poseur to be exposed. When you listen to McAnus talk it's so obvious that he has no real world experience in the combat sports let alone an expert at "street fighting" like he tries to portray himself. That "hammer fist and it's lights out" comment about what will happen if some tries to shoot in "real life" was just priceless. You picture this skinny/fat queer in a nurse's skirt prancing around with a bed pan asking his patients if they want a sponge bath or a prostrate exam. Of course he won't post pics of his youthful and robust 30 year old physique to prove us wrong because he doesn't want us to drool over them. LOL! That's what pugalist666 use to say until Sev post past pics of him forcing him to post recent pics. And it was just as we all expected. Another pudgy admitted juicer who is as unimpressive physically as he was with his worthless posts. But I have a feeling McAnus is worse because he doesn't even train preferring to cross dress and rape himself with a dildo imagining it attach to a big, bad pro boxer whom he worships and wants to submit himself to.
Seriously, what a tool. What a fuking pathetic little wannabe tool.
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That "hammer fist and it's lights out" comment about what will happen if some tries to shoot in "real life" was just priceless.
Well you know most boxers work that take-down defense quite a bit. Esp considering that punching the back of the head and hammerfists are both illegal in boxing. In all fairness though, I think MunchAnus probably knows a lot about fisting.
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James Toney, through a translator.
Isn't that shit hilarious? They have to use subtitles cuz no one can understand that mumbling fool.
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LOL you've actually never trained in martial arts or boxing. Haha Toney a formidable boxer..... ::) Go back to eating donuts fatty.
SgtSpar is far from fat and is far from a pussy. ;)
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SgtSpar is far from fat and is far from a pussy. ;)
Thanks bro, but now he'll know we're gay.
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Who would win a homerun derby between Alex Rodriguez and Brett Favre? ::)
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Thanks bro, but now he'll know we're gay.
No problem, brather.
Hey hows the new job?
and honestly no one can be that dumb, so he must be a gimmick trying to get a rise out of you.
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Who would win a homerun derby between Alex Rodriguez and Brett Favre? ::)
Why don't you explain that to boxers? You will never hear an MMA guy saying he would beat a pro boxer in a boxing match, but boxers are forever saying they can beat MMA guys at their own game and how MMA striking sucks.
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No problem, brather.
Hey hows the new job?
and honestly no one can be that dumb, so he must be a gimmick trying to get a rise out of you.
No shit. And I take the bait every time....
I think the new job is gonna be boring as hell, but I can't complain. The pay is good and I think it will work out ok. Sorry I didn't make it down this week. Monday is a holiday so I have it off, maybe me and the girl can come down.
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Who would win a homerun derby between Alex Rodriguez and Brett Favre? ::)
not the point ::) Who would win in a real fight?
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Who would win in a real fight?
Every MMA guy knows the answer, and almost no boxers do. Not even Toney, not even now.
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Every MMA guy knows the answer, and almost no boxers do. Not even Toney, not even now.
James Toney might be legally retarded...just like many of the delusional posters on here.
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They never learn. MMA rules.
There's no boxers,powerlifters or bodybuilders. so stop the hate and accept the truth.
By the way... size means shit.
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They never learn. MMA rules.
There's no boxers,powerlifters or bodybuilders. so stop the hate and accept the truth.
By the way... size means shit.
lol.
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Plus in the street a heavy weight boxer would demolish a guy like Couture anyways. People that extrapolate what they see in a padded octagon to a real life street fight are retards. It's easy to throw kicks when you are in your barefeet on a nice flat, padded surface with shorts on. It's easy not having to worry about your surroundings when you're in a perfectly round octagon with net sides and great lighting. LOL......MMA fighting is so far removed from real fighting it's hilarious. So of course a boxer isn't going to do much against a Couture MMAer. That's like putting a rugby player up against a basketball player.
Yeah, most of my bar fights have been in a 18' x 18' square surrounded by spring-tensioned rope with padded corners where some old dude separated us when we'd start hugging too long....
I think it's hilarious that for 2,000 years entire cultures were developed around various forms of "martial arts," with "masters" devoting their entire lives to that single "art" of fighting.....and it turns out that any goober with some high school wrestling experience would make them look like a sad little child in a fight. lol
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lol.
Should I risk bodybuilders out of that list?
They can do crap.Bodybuilders are harmless people, well!!! almost, some like to hurt women and fruits.
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In a 'real' fight James Toney could have bitten, head butted, grabbed his nuts, blah blah blah thats why this arguments pointless. The MMA guy won a match with rules, which isnt a real fight, but none the less, he won, and thats all that mattered
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In a 'real' fight James Toney could have bitten, head butted, grabbed his nuts, blah blah blah thats why this arguments pointless. The MMA guy won a match with rules, which isnt a real fight, but none the less, he won, and thats all that mattered
Most of the things you mentioned where allowed in the UFC in the beginning. And, guys trained for them. If they were allowed today, guys would again be training for them. And boxers would still be training just to punch. Either way, the boxer loses.
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Most of the things you mentioned where allowed in the UFC in the beginning. And, guys trained for them. If they were allowed today, guys would again be training for them. And boxers would still be training just to punch. Either way, the boxer loses.
Biting, fish hooking, eye gouging, and groin kicks/punches were NEVER allowed in the UFC. They would cause irrepairable damage if they were allowed. ::) I mean think about how retarded that statement is. You think Gracie would have gone all those years being a champion if some guy would have bitten a chunk out of his leg or arm or smashed him in the groin? Or stuck a finger through his eye?
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Boxing vs MMA
American Football vs Rugby
Baseball vs Cricket
F1 vs Nascar
Ronnie vs Dorian
Fatpanda vs Disturbia
::) ::) ::)
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Boxing vs MMA
American Football vs Rugby
Baseball vs Cricket
F1 vs Nascar
Ronnie vs Dorian
Fatpanda vs Disturbia
::) ::) ::)
Spain vs Wannabe Argentines
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Spain vs Wannabe Argentines
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In a 'real' fight James Toney could have bitten, head butted, grabbed his nuts, blah blah blah thats why this arguments pointless. The MMA guy won a match with rules, which isnt a real fight, but none the less, he won, and thats all that mattered
Wouldn't have Couture been able to do the same things?
Me thinks that a few Couture headbutts to Toney's fledgling brain would have done more damage than any headbutts "lights out" would have dealt out while flopping around on his back.
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What about Randy vs. a zoo animal?
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Biting, fish hooking, eye gouging, and groin kicks/punches were NEVER allowed in the UFC. They would cause irrepairable damage if they were allowed. ::) I mean think about how retarded that statement is. You think Gracie would have gone all those years being a champion if some guy would have bitten a chunk out of his leg or arm or smashed him in the groin? Or stuck a finger through his eye?
Proving once again that you're focking clueless. No biting and no eye gouging were the only rules at the beginning, and in Brazil, where BJJ was developed in the streets, there were no rules. In Brazilian vale tudo, eye gouging was common. Keith Hackney beat Joe Son by punching him in the nuts over and over, and finally choking him. Big Daddy Goodrich won one of his fights by reaching into the Japanese fighters jock, grabbing his nuts and squeezing until the guy submitted. The person that controls position controls who can bite, eye gouge, head butt, or whatever else happens. Stop posting when you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
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Biting, fish hooking, eye gouging, and groin kicks/punches were NEVER allowed in the UFC. They would cause irrepairable damage if they were allowed. ::) I mean think about how retarded that statement is. You think Gracie would have gone all those years being a champion if some guy would have bitten a chunk out of his leg or arm or smashed him in the groin? Or stuck a finger through his eye?
Owned.
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Haha , Burger King ,Burger King
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Biting, fish hooking, eye gouging, and groin kicks/punches were NEVER allowed in the UFC. They would cause irrepairable damage if they were allowed. ::) I mean think about how retarded that statement is. You think Gracie would have gone all those years being a champion if some guy would have bitten a chunk out of his leg or arm or smashed him in the groin? Or stuck a finger through his eye?
What's the BJJ mascot? the dog.
Because if got to the point, or we got the opportunity. we will take a piece of your face, or take a piece of your ear.
What do you think happens in the streets "most of the time in the beaches" of Brazil?
Pro fighters, they know how to fight dirt. Chuck eye gouging people in the UFC, remember?
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Haha get a fucking life you pathetic fucking loser. You're 50 fucking years old and you're posting on a fucking board where the average age is probably 25. You and noworries should hook up. You both have so much in common. He could be your big hairy muscle bear and you could be his little bottom boy twink. You're fucking tiny and your midsection looks like that of a fucking starving African. Seriously, at 50 years old don't you have anything better to do? Wife? Gf? Kids? Or all people from Hawaii fucking losers like you?
hahahahaah the funny thing is you say you are 30 and YOU are posting on a board all day and night. For someone who is in their prime of thewir life you are a waste of life. You have nothing going for you and you are 30. You are a joke. You lie so much and get caught, That is your legacy. Hey post up some more video of others fighting and tell us that is how you fight. Come one McAnusLicker tell some more of your lies. hahaahaha man you are pathetic.
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LOL you've actually never trained in martial arts or boxing. Haha Toney a formidable boxer..... ::) Go back to eating donuts fatty.
Either have you. Everyone on here knows you haven't. Yet you come back and take punishment. Are you a Goodrumn gimmick
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MMA NHB
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MMA NHB
PTPS
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hahahahaah the funny thing is you say you are 30 and YOU are posting on a board all day and night. For someone who is in their prime of thewir life you are a waste of life. You have nothing going for you and you are 30. You are a joke. You lie so much and get caught, That is your legacy. Hey post up some more video of others fighting and tell us that is how you fight. Come one McAnusLicker tell some more of your lies. hahaahaha man you are pathetic.
Maybe I'm full of shit maybe I'm not........but the bottom line is you hav it in your head a certain idea bout me and I can set you off at the drop of a hat and you fall for it every time. LMAO! It's quite entertaining.
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Maybe I'm full of shit maybe I'm not........but the bottom line is you hav it in your head a certain idea bout me and I can set you off at the drop of a hat and you fall for it every time. LMAO! It's quite entertaining.
You're not smart enough to be doing this for fun.
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Biting, fish hooking, eye gouging, and groin kicks/punches were NEVER allowed in the UFC. They would cause irrepairable damage if they were allowed. ::) I mean think about how retarded that statement is. You think Gracie would have gone all those years being a champion if some guy would have bitten a chunk out of his leg or arm or smashed him in the groin? Or stuck a finger through his eye?
Actually, young lady, they were....youtube video of early ufc event coming (I believe it involves Kimo being kneed repeatedly in groin...IN FRONT of ref).....
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What's the BJJ mascot? the dog.
Because if got to the point, or we got the opportunity. we will take a piece of your face, or take a piece of your ear.
What do you think happens in the streets "most of the time in the beaches" of Brazil?
Pro fighters, they know how to fight dirt. Chuck eye gouging people in the UFC, remember?
Awesome way to scare little children.
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Actually, young lady, they were....youtube video of early ufc event coming (I believe it involves Kimo being kneed repeatedly in groin...IN FRONT of ref).....
You're just as clueless as he is.
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Couture against a 20 year old Tyson wouldn't even be funny. Now Couture against an average or subpar heavyweight what do you expect? There hasn't been a decent heavyweight for how many years? Toney is/was a fucking joke.
Plus in the street a heavy weight boxer would demolish a guy like Couture anyways. People that extrapolate what they see in a padded octagon to a real life street fight are retards. It's easy to throw kicks when you are in your barefeet on a nice flat, padded surface with shorts on. It's easy not having to worry about your surroundings when you're in a perfectly round octagon with net sides and great lighting. LOL......MMA fighting is so far removed from real fighting it's hilarious. So of course a boxer isn't going to do much against a Couture MMAer. That's like putting a rugby player up against a basketball player.
Dumbest post ever and its obvious you have NEVER EVER been in a real fight.Every fight I have ever been in and seen goes to the ground.NEVER have I seen a fight remain standing up.A shootfighter or wrestler would kill a boxer.All they have to do is shoot on the guy,cover up enough not to get knocked out,it goes to the ground and the boxer gets destroyed.Not even a contest.A world class wrestler like Couture would kill ANY boxer on earth.
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Dumbest post ever and its obvious you have NEVER EVER been in a real fight.Every fight I have ever been in and seen goes to the ground.NEVER have I seen a fight remain standing up.A shootfighter or wrestler would kill a boxer.All they have to do is shoot on the guy,cover up enough not to get knocked out,it goes to the ground and the boxer gets destroyed.Not even a contest.A world class wrestler like Couture would kill ANY boxer on earth.
easy tiger
no top boxers or top k1 go to mma
I'd love to see badr hari vs couture
alistair would mop the floor with everyone in mma including fedor
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easy tiger
no top boxers or top k1 go to mma
I'd love to see badr hari vs couture
alistair would mop the floor with everyone in mma including fedor
Overeem?? He does MMA, he is the Strikeforce champion
He has a good record with a few good subission victories
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Overeem?? He does MMA, he is the Strikeforce champion
He has a good record with a few good subission victories
he is the top MMA fighter right now the way I see it
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he is the top MMA fighter right now the way I see it
He sure is, BUT he doesnt train purely as a K1 fighter anymore
I doubt all K1 fighters could dominate MMA, just Overeem and Crocop to some degree
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He sure is, BUT he doesnt train purely as a K1 fighter anymore
I doubt all K1 fighters could dominate MMA, just Overeem and Crocop to some degree
it depends
I have a hard time seeing ANYONE shoot to take down schilt
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Boxing vs MMA
American Football vs Rugby
Baseball vs Cricket
F1 vs Nascar
Ronnie vs Dorian
Fatpanda vs Disturbia
::) ::) ::)
Bear vs Gorilla shits all over that list
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SgtSpar is far from fat and is far from a pussy. ;)
Yeah but you on the other hand..... ;D
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easy tiger
no top boxers or top k1 go to mma
I'd love to see badr hari vs couture
alistair would mop the floor with everyone in mma including fedor
;)
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Yeah but you on the other hand..... ;D
;D
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Biting, fish hooking, eye gouging, and groin kicks/punches were NEVER allowed in the UFC. They would cause irrepairable damage if they were allowed. ::) I mean think about how retarded that statement is. You think Gracie would have gone all those years being a champion if some guy would have bitten a chunk out of his leg or arm or smashed him in the groin? Or stuck a finger through his eye?
I never said biting, eye-gouging, etc. were allowed. Head-butting, soccer kicks, hair pulling, kidney strikes, strikes to the back of the head, 12-6 elbows & groin kicks where in fact allowed (do your homework). Also, there were no weight limits and no rounds. It was as close to a real fight as you could get an they trained to defend against those tactics and to apply them. If everything was allowed today, they would train for everything. Boxers would still train just to box. In other words, MMA will always beat boxing.
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Dumbest post ever and its obvious you have NEVER EVER been in a real fight.Every fight I have ever been in and seen goes to the ground.NEVER have I seen a fight remain standing up.A shootfighter or wrestler would kill a boxer.All they have to do is shoot on the guy,cover up enough not to get knocked out,it goes to the ground and the boxer gets destroyed.Not even a contest.A world class wrestler like Couture would kill ANY boxer on earth.
Erm Randy himself said he would not have beaten Mike Tyson in a street fight.
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Erm Randy himself said he would not have beaten Mike Tyson in a street fight.
He didn't say a "street fight".
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LOL mcanus coming across as a person who has never trained in any type of fighting style and certainly as someone who has never been in or seen many street fights...
the MAJORITY OF FIGHTS go to the ground....MAJORITY OF STREET FIGHTS go to the ground for one reason or another...someone trips, gets knocked down, thrown, taken down...
one thing you should probably know mcanus is that MMA fighters actually know how to fall, yes there is technique to falling or being thrown. So when you say that you wouldnt be able to do the same things in a street fight as you would during an MMA fight the vast majority of take downs you would still be able to use.
You dont have to go all the way to the ground to do a single leg, there are also a hundred other ways couture could have taken toney to the ground and that you can take someone to the ground in a street fight.
LOL you know how I know youve never been in a fight? youre worried about getting your knees and elbows scraped by going to the ground...
LMAO YOURE IN A FIGHT, you dont even notice that shit until after its over thats not something that youre thinking about. What youre thinking about is kicking this persons ass not oh I cant do that I might rip my pants. ::)
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You're just as clueless as he is.
Hardly....I was wrong about fighter (as evident from video above)....but look at the fight between Kimo and Royce Gracie....about 40sec in...groin shots. The kind that would have the fight stopped for "recovery" from fighter being struck
Anything else?
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lol @ the pic title
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everyone is underestimating really talented fighter and athletic .. tyson .. roy jones .. the chain smoking colombian
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In a street fight (club / bar....etc ) the last place you want to be is on the ground .
I hope this helps.
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In a street fight (club / bar....etc ) the last place you want to be is on the ground .
I hope this helps.
agreed as ive stated many many times, but mcanus is basically stating that if that fight had happend in the streets it would have had a different outcome.
take away the getting shived by the guys friend or whatever...one on one an mma fighter is still beating the shit out of a boxer 99 times out a 100 in a street fight.
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In a street fight (club / bar....etc ) the last place you want to be is on the ground .
I hope this helps.
it may be the last place you want it to go, but if you're up against someone with wrestling/BJJ training, that's exactly where it will end up.
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agreed as ive stated many many times, but mcanus is basically stating that if that fight had happend in the streets it would have had a different outcome.
take away the getting shived by the guys friend or whatever...one on one an mma fighter is still beating the shit out of a boxer 99 times out a 100 in a street fight.
Not necessarily a fight is a fight,
First of all many street fights go to the ground because 99% of the time these fights are between untrained fighters,when you don't know how to throw a punch your first instinct is to grab or hold, just like a chick fight ( hair pulling )
Second of all in the street you don't know who you are fighting (no Bruce Buffers announcing )no time to prepare.
even a MMA guy will try to beat you standing first , if that don't work then he will go for the takedown .
Last but no least , say you have a boxer and a wrestler arguing 3-4 feet apart ,whoever pull the trigger first (wrestler takedown or boxer sucker punch) usually would win that fight.
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it may be the last place you want it to go, but if you're up against someone with wrestling/BJJ training, that's exactly where it will end up.
Not necessarily
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Not necessarily
uh, unless you have trained for takedown defense, you will be going to the ground. Ask James Toney. He trained to defend takedowns for 9 months and still wound up on his back without being able to throw a single punch.
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uh, unless you have trained for takedown defense, you will be going to the ground. Ask James Toney. He trained to defend takedowns for 9 months and still wound up on his back without being able to throw a single punch.
You are an idiot I can't waste my time with you .
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Not necessarily a fight is a fight,
First of all many street fights go to the ground because 99% of the time these fights are between untrained fighters,when you don't know how to throw a punch your first instinct is to grab or hold, just like a chick fight ( hair pulling )
Second of all in the street you don't know who you are fighting (no Bruce Buffers announcing )no time to prepare.
even a MMA guy will try to beat you standing first , if that don't work then he will go for the takedown .
Last but no least , say you have a boxer and a wrestler arguing 3-4 feet apart ,whoever pull the trigger first (wrestler takedown or boxer sucker punch) usually would win that fight.
LOL i agree with most of this but it doesnt matter what reason they guys grab on to one another look at boxers in a match how many times do they end up hugging each other? shit doesnt fly with a person who knows how to take you down especially if they know how to throw you, that will end the fight right there no need to ground and pound.
barring sucker punches the vast majority of times an mma guy is going to beat a strictly boxer in a fight...
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barring sucker punches
street fighting = no rules
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street fighting = no rules
correct by that logic though an mma guy just walks up behind him at the bar and chokes him out...
so you could say the win 100% of the time ;)
or the boxer has brass knuckles...you see
what this conversation was about was in the context of a street...not a no holds bar type fight...
and I hate to break it to you che but even with sucker punches mma ppl are beating strictly boxers the vast vast majority of the time
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correct by that logic though an mma guy just walks up behind him at the bar and chokes him out...
so you could say the win 100% of the time ;)
or the boxer has brass knuckles...you see
what this conversation was about was in the context of a street...not a no holds bar type fight...
and I hate to break it to you che but even with sucker punches mma ppl are beating strictly boxers the vast vast majority of the time
I didn't want to say it , I hate to brake it to you but I'm 2-0 against wrestlers in a street fight :)
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I didn't want to say it , I hate to brake it to you but I'm 2-0 against wrestlers in a street fight :)
LOL how do you know they were wrestlers?
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I didn't want to say it , I hate to brake it to you but I'm 2-0 against wrestlers in a street fight :)
Really? How did you stuff their takedown attempts?
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LOL how do you know they were wrestlers?
The first one was a wrestler in HS
The second one (long story short ) we were in a club downtown and two guys were wearing white ( Fruit of the Loom) wifebeaters ,I was a little bit drunk and say something stupid making fun of them ,one of the guy turned around pushed me and I clocked him ,he was out .later that night I found out that the guys were wrestlers at the Uof M.
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The first one was a wrestler in HS
The second one (long story short ) we were in a club downtown and two guys were wearing white ( Fruit of the Loom) wifebeaters ,I was a little bit drunk and say something stupid making fun of them ,one of the guy turned around pushed me and I clocked him ,he was out .later that night I found out that the guys were wrestlers at the Uof M.
So the 2nd one didn't even attempt to use his wrestling. He just pushed you and you KO's him. What about this 1st one? Did he go for a takedown?
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What about this 1st one? Did he go for a takedown?
Yeah , I didn't know he was a wrestler I wasn't expecting a take down , he took me down I couldn't move ( twisted like a Pretzel) I bit his arm :D and he let me go I got up and I beat his ass until he quit .
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Did you ever notice that as soon as Munchanus gets proven a moron again, he just disappears? He will appear in a different thread talking about the owning he gave everyone before. No doubt, the biggest tool on getbig. He is actually worse than Goodrum.
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Did you ever notice that as soon as Munchanus gets proven a moron again, he just disappears? He will appear in a different thread talking about the owning he gave everyone before. No doubt, the biggest tool on getbig. He is actually worse than Goodrum.
Yes he is or at least a close second. Goodrum might have soemthing mentally wrong with him so we give him the benefit of the doubt
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I didn't read alot of this stuff but the Gracies philosphy was that 90%+ of every street fight ends up on ther ground and that is where Gracie Jiu Jitsu takes over and cannot be beat. That is how they used to teach. Not sure anymore. We used to practice in street clothes, barefoot, in boots, dress shoes, long sleeve shirts and whatever other clothing you would wear on a regular basis. Cause you neevr know when you are going to get into a fight. I was not a fighter but more of a enforcer. I ended fights or took care of guys who picked on the wrong person, friend or someone weaker. I never threw a first punch either. I let whoever throw the first punch. I didn't ever wait for it to land though. My friend and I were the ones my friends would call when they needed help. but, at no time did I ever start a fight. I didn't like to fight. but I hated uneven odds in a fight even more.
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A couple of questions.
*What's easier to fight a guy on a bar/streets, or in the beach?
*What's easier to fight a guy wearing " shirt/jacket/suit/heavy coat" or a guy wearing a board shorts?
*And what's easier to fight a guy in a cold city/ country or a hot city/country?
* One on one situation.
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A couple of questions.
*What's easier to fight a guy on a bar/streets, or in the beach?
*What's easier to fight a guy wearing " shirt/jacket/suit/heavy coat" or a guy wearing a board shorts?
*And what's easier to fight a guy in a cold city/ country or a hot city/country?
* One on one situation.
*the beach. I would drag his ass in the water and drown him. Did countless times when I grew up surfing in HB.
*a guy wearing a bunch of clothing is easier. You can use it against him.
*fighting in the cold sucks.
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*the beach. I would drag his ass in the water and drown him. Did countless times when I grew up surfing in HB.
*a guy wearing a bunch of clothing is easier. You can use it against him.
*fighting in the cold sucks.
Let's see.
The beach, less clothes = good. but then you have sweat,sand and oil, that could be bad.
Heat= good and bad. good you don't gas out easy. bad sweat.
Drag someone to the water? hmmmmmmmmm....it could happen,but only if you fighting really really close to the water,or if you fighting someone way smaller than you.well!!! I don't fight midgets, I prefer big guys.
Clothes. most of people don't know how easy it is to choke someone. you don't even need to go to the ground.
Cold weather= good and bad. you can gas out very fast. but in the other hand... there's a lot of places to grab. you know lapels are the emergency exit. pay attention there's a sign there saying "in a emergency please pull here" lol ;D
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Did you ever notice that as soon as Munchanus gets proven a moron again, he just disappears? He will appear in a different thread talking about the owning he gave everyone before. No doubt, the biggest tool on getbig. He is actually worse than Goodrum.
I guess even a retard like McAssMuncher capacity for brutal ownage and humiliation has it's limits. How I never noticed a complete moron like this before is beyond me.
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The first one was a wrestler in HS
The second one (long story short ) we were in a club downtown and two guys were wearing white ( Fruit of the Loom) wifebeaters ,I was a little bit drunk and say something stupid making fun of them ,one of the guy turned around pushed me and I clocked him ,he was out .later that night I found out that the guys were wrestlers at the Uof M.
LOL so you beat a hs wrestler and sucker punched a college one?
hahahahah :D
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Yeah , I didn't know he was a wrestler I wasn't expecting a take down , he took me down I couldn't move ( twisted like a Pretzel) I bit his arm :D and he let me go I got up and I beat his ass until he quit .
LOL hahah I like it ;D
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LOL hahah I like it ;D
;D, the HS kid had his chances to beat me, he pinned me down but didn't finish me , the college guy I didn't give him a chance but maybe in different circumstances he would beat the shit out of me ,who knows .
that what I was trying to tell you man, too many variables nothing is black or white .
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;D, the HS kid had his chances to beat me, he pinned me down but didn't finish me , the college guy I didn't give him a chance but maybe in different circumstances he would beat the shit out of me ,who knows .
that what I was trying to tell you man, too many variables nothing is black or white .
i agree but you cant take 2 instances youve had and try to generalize...thats the good thing about statistic given a big enough sample patterns emerge...that pattern would be that mma fighters would beat boxers in street fights the vast majority of the time.
and wrestlers arent mma fighters but I like your style with the biting ;D
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The problem that James had is that he has a very bad boxing style in regards to other forms of combat. He never had any legs, zero footwork and zero power, somewhat compounded by the fact that he is a natural 160lb iin an obese 240lb body. He was great at boxing through pure skill, not athletacism. He used to like to sit in the pocket and counter, that is not going to work in mma or kickboxing. Toney could train grappling forever and still be terrible at it, just as Lesnar has trained striking for over three years now and looks like a novice. It is all down to latent talent. The kids in highschool who learn wrestling don't lose there first 100 matches and then get good, they start out at a higher level through ability. There have been wrestlers, Judokai, BJJ, kickboxers who have failed to adapt and boxers are no different. Everybody needs to stop being so tribal on this issue. It's all down to the individual.
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Boxing,MMA, whatever ill bet NOONE here would mess with this guy!!!
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Boxing,MMA, whatever ill bet NOONE here would mess with this guy!!!
I swear to god this is exactly how I picture McAnusLicker looks like. I would not be surprised if that is him
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The problem that James had is that he has a very bad boxing style in regards to other forms of combat. He never had any legs, zero footwork and zero power, somewhat compounded by the fact that he is a natural 160lb iin an obese 240lb body. He was great at boxing through pure skill, not athletacism. He used to like to sit in the pocket and counter, that is not going to work in mma or kickboxing.
The kids in highschool who learn wrestling don't lose there first 100 matches and then get good, they start out at a higher level through ability.
You're so stupid its unreal. Some people are born with better balance, speed, strength, whatever, but the biggest factor is hard work. There is a reason that every wrestler looks to Dan Gable for inspiration. The guy had no genetic gifts but became great through pure hard work. I grew up in the mid-west in the heart of great wrestling. I can tell you first hand that the guys that train the hardest win, not the guys with great gifts.
As far as Toney not being the "right kind" of boxer, you would be saying that about any boxer, because the same thing would have happened. Sitting back and countering works pretty good for Silva, he is the champion and that is how he fights. There are several other fighters that use a defensive style that do just fine with it.
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Talent supercedes everthing. Only average Joe's like to push the hard work angle. You have two guys who train the same and one is naturally far more athletic, then who do you think is going to progress the most? Lesnar has the striking of guys that have been training a few weeks, Ditto Carwin, I could bet you a million pounds that Toney would never do jack as a wrestler, just like Anderson. All of these guys are very hard workers save Toney, but he is so fat and punch drunk i really don't see him picking anything up.
Silva even now has shitty wrestling, what he does however have is good BJJ and he is in no way similar to James, Silva actually has legs, he can move and decent Muay Thai to keep guys hesitant. James has never had any footwork at all. Mercer is nowhere near as accomplished as James and even more shot as a fighter, but had one equaliser, power. James had nothing to offer.
The writing was on the wall, The fact that he even got a fight given the circumstances puts the org back at least ten years.
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Here we go!! Any MMA hero of yours gets killed in a street fight if a boxer lands and believe me a boxer is trained to hit very fast and accurate. There
wouldnt be an opportunity for any "takedowns".
So many of you are full of shit, the only guy who knows his stuff and i sure as hell would nt fuck with is no worries, it would have been like fighting a bear, the rest of you are so full of shit its unreal.
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Here we go!! Any MMA hero of yours gets killed in a street fight if a boxer lands and believe me a boxer is trained to hit very fast and accurate. There
wouldnt be an opportunity for any "takedowns".
So many of you are full of shit, the only guy who knows his stuff and i sure as hell would nt fuck with is no worries, it would have been like fighting a bear, the rest of you are so full of shit its unreal.
IF a boxer lands. Ain't that easy as Toney learned. And it's not just takedowns. It's fighting in a clinch which is where Jiu-Jitsu and Wrestlers shine. Look at any boxing match. Look how many times they clinch and the ref has to separate them. No refs to protect you in a street fight. Randy was a Greco Roman wrestler where you can't do double/single legs or shoot. He gets a boxer in a clinch and your boxing hero is on the pavement. But it doesn't matter. It's the boxing fans that has a problem with MMA and is always making the comparison and claiming superiority. All else being equal -- again I repeat because you can't seem to get this very simple point -- ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL!!!!!! A MMA fighter beats a boxer 99% (there's always a puncher's chance) of the time simply because they have a much broader and diverse skill set. A pure boxer fighting as a pure boxer can only punch and protect his upper body and face. A MMA fighter can punch, kick, use elbows, take downs, chokes, arm/leg/ankle attacks... there's no comparison.
But reason and logic doesn't matter. Your mind is already made up. You have a bug up your ass regarding MMA. You seemed threatened and resentful about it.
But your word is final. The beast has spoken. LOLOLOLOLOL!
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v121/15/113/554918436/n554918436_103644_9266.jpg)
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Here we go!! Any MMA hero of yours gets killed in a street fight if a boxer lands and believe me a boxer is trained to hit very fast and accurate. There
wouldnt be an opportunity for any "takedowns".
So many of you are full of shit, the only guy who knows his stuff and i sure as hell would nt fuck with is no worries, it would have been like fighting a bear, the rest of you are so full of shit its unreal.
You're a tool. Every thread you bitch about how boxing is great, MMA sucks, blah, blah. I'm sure if you took down the cage and Toney and Couture fought in the parking lot instead, it would have been lights out for Couture. Every boxer said the same shit you're spouting about how there wouldn't be time for a take down and it happens over and over and over....Unlike your stupid ass, I train in both so maybe I know what I'm talking about instead of just spouting the same dis-proven rhetoric all the time.
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You're a tool. Every thread you bitch about how boxing is great, MMA sucks, blah, blah. I'm sure if you took down the cage and Toney and Couture fought in the parking lot instead, it would have been lights out for Couture. Every boxer said the same shit you're spouting about how there wouldn't be time for a take down and it happens over and over and over....Unlike your stupid ass, I train in both so maybe I know what I'm talking about instead of just spouting the same dis-proven rhetoric all the time.
It never gets old watching pwn people, esp irl........Just saying 8)
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You're a tool. Every thread you bitch about how boxing is great, MMA sucks, blah, blah. I'm sure if you took down the cage and Toney and Couture fought in the parking lot instead, it would have been lights out for Couture. Every boxer said the same shit you're spouting about how there wouldn't be time for a take down and it happens over and over and over....Unlike your stupid ass, I train in both so maybe I know what I'm talking about instead of just spouting the same dis-proven rhetoric all the time.
lol
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Here we go!! Any MMA hero of yours gets killed in a street fight if a boxer lands and believe me a boxer is trained to hit very fast and accurate. There
wouldnt be an opportunity for any "takedowns".
So many of you are full of shit, the only guy who knows his stuff and i sure as hell would nt fuck with is no worries, it would have been like fighting a bear, the rest of you are so full of shit its unreal.
How come Toney wasn't able to "land" on Couture? Did the cage get in the way or something ???
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It never gets old watching pwn people, esp irl........Just saying 8)
I can't even take credit for it here. These tools are just too easy. Too bad "Darren Avey" "Jaime" and Munchanus never wandered into the club when we were working......although MunchAnus is 6'5", maybe he is that guy I beat down and pissed on that night.
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Here we go!! Any MMA hero of yours gets killed in a street fight if a boxer lands and believe me a boxer is trained to hit very fast and accurate. There
wouldnt be an opportunity for any "takedowns".
So many of you are full of shit, the only guy who knows his stuff and i sure as hell would nt fuck with is no worries, it would have been like fighting a bear, the rest of you are so full of shit its unreal.
Thanks, I think. But, I didn't like to fight. What I didn't like was when a weaker person was getting picked on or someone getting beat up by more than one person. I think my size detered most people to try anything. I remember the riot in Palm Springs in 83' was something that stood out. At the Travelodge some bad shit was happening. I was at the Westward Ho. I walked down the street and was greeted by several people wanting me to be on thier side. I had no idea what was happening. I finally got there and there was about 200 people all in the parking lot by the front office. I remember alot of people yelling and fucked up. All of a sudden a bottled came at me. I dodged it and then I went crazy. I wanted to kill the fucker who threw it at me. It was so funny cause literally as I started to yell everyone stopped talkikng moving or doing anything. They just stood there wide eyed at me yelling to find out who through the bottle. Anyway, never found out and that riot after the cops came made Palm Springs no more fun. Not sure why Itold that story. But in short I rarely fought anyone one on one where someone wanted to fight me. It was usually me helping someone who was at a disadvantage. My friends all thought I hit harder than anyone but I always thought my good friend Craig Kukuk hit harder than anyone I have ever seen in person. Unreal punching power. He later became the 1st American to achieve black belt in Gracie Jiu Jitsu.
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I can't even take credit for it here. These tools are just too easy. Too bad "Darren Avey" "Jaime" and Munchanus never wandered into the club when we were working......although MunchAnus is 6'5", maybe he is that guy I beat down and pissed on that night.
What "club" were you working? The "Blue Oyster Bar?
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Darren Avey you probably watch rise of the footsoldier everymorning before leaving yoour bedsit to collect your dole cheque do you?
Dont forget to take off your Lenny McClean pjamas before you leave the flats now
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I can't even take credit for it here. These tools are just too easy. Too bad "Darren Avey" "Jaime" and Munchanus never wandered into the club when we were working......although MunchAnus is 6'5", maybe he is that guy I beat down and pissed on that night.
Why are you mentioning me? I never said anything about what a single stylist would do in mma and i certainly never thought Toney stood a chance. Oh your a bouncer, that explains it. The one single job that attracts the most number of insignificant trash. All you do is shit talk, you truly are a sickening little creature.
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Darren Avey you probably watch rise of the footsoldier everymorning before leaving yoour bedsit to collect your dole cheque do you?
Dont forget to take off your Lenny McClean pjamas before you leave the flats now
Hey we cant all be as tough as you "okami" working the doors of the roughest clubs around age 18, the age when most people are basically kids ::)
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Hey we cant all be as tough as you "okami" working the doors of the roughest clubs around age 18, the age when most people are basically kids ::)
I dont talk shit or mention fighting in every post
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Darren Avey you probably watch rise of the footsoldier everymorning before leaving yoour bedsit to collect your dole cheque do you?
Dont forget to take off your Lenny McClean pjamas before you leave the flats now
LOL @ "Lenny McClean pajamas"
Fucking classic GetBig ownings.
Avery, got to give you credit. Every thread you go shooting your mouth on you get passed around like a bong pipe at a frat party from person to person getting owned and ass raped and you still keep coming back for more. Quite a durable rectum for a pudgy white guy.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v121/15/113/554918436/n554918436_103644_9266.jpg)
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Hey we cant all be as tough as you "okami" working the doors of the roughest clubs around age 18, the age when most people are basically kids ::)
No wait....let me guess.....Okami is probably from Hawaii? I mean every known bad ass on getbig seems to be from there. ::)
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No hes from Ireland, another place where everyone claims to be a bad ass!
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LOL @ "Lenny McClean pajamas"
Fucking classic GetBig ownings.
Avery, got to give you credit. Every thread you go shooting your mouth on you get passed around like a bong pipe at a frat party from person to person getting owned and ass raped and you still keep coming back for more. Quite a durable rectum for a pudgy white guy.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v121/15/113/554918436/n554918436_103644_9266.jpg)
kinda like u ;D
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No hes from Ireland, another place where everyone claims to be a bad ass!
LOL..........Ireland.... ..he probably lives in a studio apartment cooking on a hot plate while living off government employment and pursuing the deam of stepping up on stage and posing in a thong.
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LOL..........Ireland......he probably lives in a studio apartment cooking on a hot plate while living off government employment and pursuing the deam of stepping up on stage and posing in a thong.
I live in a large house near the beach, I own 3 businesses, all earning money, Ive competed before with some success
You are a gay nurse who contadicts himself in every sentence
And Avey, you are a tit, I can imagine you in your West Ham or Millwall jersey having 4cans of Stella and being short, ugly and hopeless
This is a bodybuilding board, like why are any of you two on it?
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Darren 'im hard me' Avey
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I live in a large house near the beach, I own 3 businesses, all earning money, Ive competed before with some success
You are a gay nurse who contadicts himself in every sentence
And Avey, you are a tit, I can imagine you in your West Ham or Millwall jersey having 4cans of Stella and being short, ugly and hopeless
This is a bodybuilding board, like why are any of you two on it?
LMAO! Large house near the beach....it's Ireland dumbshit......I'm sure living near the beach is nothing like living near the beach in California.
Own 3 businesses all making money?.............LOL........ I sell Amway, have a dog walking business, and sell cheap bodybuilding supplements..........the refore I "own" businesses.
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I have two shops and a website, bit different from wanking dogs
Obviously Ireland is nowhere as nice as California but I love it where I am
This is part of the beach im living by
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IF a boxer lands. Ain't that easy as Toney learned. And it's not just takedowns. It's fighting in a clinch which is where Jiu-Jitsu and Wrestlers shine. Look at any boxing match. Look how many times they clinch and the ref has to separate them. No refs to protect you in a street fight. Randy was a Greco Roman wrestler where you can't do double/single legs or shoot. He gets a boxer in a clinch and your boxing hero is on the pavement. But it doesn't matter. It's the boxing fans that has a problem with MMA and is always making the comparison and claiming superiority. All else being equal -- again I repeat because you can't seem to get this very simple point -- ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL!!!!!! A MMA fighter beats a boxer 99% (there's always a puncher's chance) of the time simply because they have a much broader and diverse skill set. A pure boxer fighting as a pure boxer can only punch and protect his upper body and face. A MMA fighter can punch, kick, use elbows, take downs, chokes, arm/leg/ankle attacks... there's no comparison.
But reason and logic doesn't matter. Your mind is already made up. You have a bug up your ass regarding MMA. You seemed threatened and resentful about it.
But your word is final. The beast has spoken. LOLOLOLOLOL!
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Exactly.
Besides Boxers clinch all the time in the ring for a quick "timeout". Do that with an MMA fighter and it'll be a short night.
Boxers do have a substantial edge in punching power since they are specialists at it but a smart MMA fighter is not going to stand and trade with a boxer as Randy just demonstrated
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I have two shops and a website, bit different from wanking dogs
Obviously Ireland is nowhere as nice as California but I love it where I am
This is part of the beach im living by
LMAO! Looks like my toilet after I take a big stinking shit in it. So what do you sell tough guy? What kind of "shops". ::)
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kinda like u ;D
Believe or not, I get some of my stuff from you. And I have a very grudging soft spot for the work you did on my arch enemy pugalist666. That was magnificent.
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LOL..........Ireland......he probably lives in a studio apartment cooking on a hot plate while living off government employment and pursuing the deam of stepping up on stage and posing in a thong.
Excuse me honey, Okami owns his own business and is a beast. Not some cross dressing, bed pan, carrying, rectum poking
boxing wannabe queer.
You and Avery make a cute couple. And you can alternate as bottom bitches though I believe you might need a strap on depending on how far along you are on your "gender realization" project.
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LOL..........Ireland......he probably lives in a studio apartment cooking on a hot plate while living off government employment and pursuing the deam of stepping up on stage and posing in a thong.
BTW, unlike you two homos that like to presume they can speak for boxers, Okami actually has stepped into the boxing ring with a real boxer and thrown hands.
You two fags are so getting owned by everyone that it's time for one last circle jerk and then hang yourselves.
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Exactly.
Besides Boxers clinch all the time in the ring for a quick "timeout". Do that with an MMA fighter and it'll be a short night.
Boxers do have a substantial edge in punching power since they are specialists at it but a smart MMA fighter is not going to stand and trade with a boxer as Randy just demonstrated
It should be noted, and boxers have confirmed this, that part of what gives them their punching power is the shoes they wear. The traction it provides helps tremendously in driving your body through your legs and hips generating the lethal punching power.
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LMAO! Looks like my toilet after I take a big stinking shit in it. So what do you sell tough guy? What kind of "shops". ::)
Supplement shop
Sunbed Salon
MMA clothing and equipment website (very successful)
Another pic of 'your toilet'
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LMAO! Looks like my toilet after I take a big stinking shit in it. So what do you sell tough guy? What kind of "shops". ::)
Weak. So weak.
Post your pic bad ass. You want to talk like a tough guy. Show your face to us, queer!
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Supplement shop
Sunbed Salon
MMA clothing and equipment website (very successful)
Another pic of 'your toilet'
This cross dressing queer is beneath you. He ridicules others but he will never show his face or how he lives. You and I have done both. Another shit talking coward behind a computer screen.
This one is a classic. Especially since boxing has the same rules and trying generate enough power while someone is driving right through you. It's so obvious this guy has never been in a real fight let alone try to defend against a take down. I love the "lights out" part. LOL! What a fuking candy ass, shit talking, know nothing queer this gender confused freak is.
Umm you can't hit anyone on the back of the head in MMA hence why an MMA fighter can get away with going in for the take down. one swift hammer punch or regular punch to the back of the head of someone trying to go for your legs it's lights out! :'(
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Ireland is a beautiful country, land of my ancestors. Calling it a toilet is a touch stupid, it has some of the best natural landscape in the world.
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Those two guys probably believe Wrestling is real too
Avey do you still watch Wrestlemania?
Do you walk around Peckham wearing a sleeveless top with british Bulldog tattooes all over you?
Just cos you have a fucking boxers nose, doesnt mean your a boxer
Thats from getting beaten with cocks all through your teenage years
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You can be the most powerful puncher in the universe, but if you can't defend the takedown it doesn't equate to anything. Take it from someone with a background in Muay Thai, Judo, Boxing. I'm more of a boxing/kickboxing fan and I have been critical of mma's talent pool and marketing, but it's improving. But the only pure style that isn't kamikaze is a grappling base. As to who could and couldn't cross over it's all down to the individual. As has been the case with guys from all martial backgrounds. For a referance point go and look at how Holyfield controls Tyson in the clinch and negates a large part of his offence.
Little known fact, guys like Dempsey, Johnson and a lot of the oldschool guys were well versed in catch wrestling.
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I live in a large house near the beach, I own 3 businesses, all earning money, Ive competed before with some success
You are a gay nurse who contadicts himself in every sentence
And Avey, you are a tit, I can imagine you in your West Ham or Millwall jersey having 4cans of Stella and being short, ugly and hopeless
This is a bodybuilding board, like why are any of you two on it?
Yes, sat in his smeggy little bedsit, masturbating furiously to repeats of "Danny Dyer's Deadliest Men!" on freeview.
"He's a pwopa naughty geezer"
*fwap, fwap, fwap*
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You teach a boxer like Vladamir Klitschkoe basic defense against kicks and put him in a no holds barred gloveless fight against an MMA guy in a parking lot and I GUARANTEE the MMA guy would get his ass kicked.
The majority of fights go to the ground.
If you could teach Vladimir Klitschkoe to be a great wrestler really quickly and about a million ju-jitsu submission holds you might have a point. Also he'd need world-class take-down defenses for his boxing skills to benefit him at all.
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The majority of fights go to the ground.
If you could teach Vladimir Klitschkoe to be a great wrestler really quickly and about a million ju-jitsu submission holds you might have a point. Also he'd need world-class take-down defenses for his boxing skills to benefit him at all.
Gracie myth.
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I don't know what that means.
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that part of what gives them their punching power is the shoes they wear. .
I love you Pellius but C'mon man ;D
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Wow...lots of pent up angst on this thread. You guys need to get in a fight or get laid...
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LMAO! Looks like my toilet after I take a big stinking shit in it. So what do you sell tough guy? What kind of "shops". ::)
It probably is your toilet since you are probably are homeless and sneak into the local library to log onto Getbig. Dude you have been outed on here as full of shit as much as Goodrum. Hey post some more videos of other fighting and telling us that's how you fight. I always love those. Oh, tell us how big and tough you are too. Honestly I need a good laugh today. hurry up McAnusLicker
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LMAO! Looks like my toilet after I take a big stinking shit in it. So what do you sell tough guy? What kind of "shops". ::)
His place is beautiful, he is a successful businessman, and can back up what he says. Did you notice that is the exact opposite of you with your endless shit-talking in spite of the fact that you have never been in a fight, much less won one, and you empty other people bodily fluids (and solids) for a living?
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Why are you mentioning me? I never said anything about what a single stylist would do in mma and i certainly never thought Toney stood a chance. Oh your a bouncer, that explains it. The one single job that attracts the most number of insignificant trash. All you do is shit talk, you truly are a sickening little creature.
Yeah, I worked as a bouncer in a strip club because it was fun and added $25-30,000 a year tax free to my income for working 3 or 4 nights a week. During the day, I work as a system/database administrator. I also train in boxing and MMA, so you can bet this "sickening little creature" is not only smarter than you are, but also makes more money and can kick your ass.
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I love you Pellius but C'mon man ;D
It's true. Just like wrestling shoes are called wrestling for their unique characteristics that help with wrestling. Boxing shoes do indeed provide the traction that you don't get when bare footed. Ask any boxing coach. I say coach because often times the fighters themselves are unaware but just wear them because they are told to.
It was mentioned tangentially on one of the MMA sites and I'm sure if you google it it will confirm the importance of boxing shoes.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Hopkins-Warns-Toney-26285
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Yeah, I worked as a bouncer in a strip club because it was fun and added $25-30,000 a year tax free to my income for working 3 or 4 nights a week. During the day, I work as a system/database administrator. I also train in boxing and MMA, so you can bet this "sickening little creature" is not only smarter than you are, but also makes more money and can kick your ass.
This SgtSpar character... I like this guy.
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It probably is your toilet since you are probably are homeless and sneak into the local library to log onto Getbig. Dude you have been outed on here as full of shit as much as Goodrum. Hey post some more videos of other fighting and telling us that's how you fight. I always love those. Oh, tell us how big and tough you are too. Honestly I need a good laugh today. hurry up McAnusLicker
How many times and on how many threads have you owned this queer?
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It's true. Just like wrestling shoes are called wrestling for their unique characteristics that help with wrestling. Boxing shoes do indeed provide the traction that you don't get when bare footed. Ask any boxing coach. I say coach because often times the fighters themselves are unaware but just wear them because they are told to.
It was mentioned tangentially on one of the MMA sites and I'm sure if you google it it will confirm the importance of boxing shoes.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Hopkins-Warns-Toney-26285
I've coached for over 12 years Pellius (not so much in the last two years ) , If I tell you that you are wrong are you going to kick my ass :D
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I've coached for over 12 years Pellius (not so much in the last two years ) , If I tell you that you are wrong are you going to kick my ass :D
Getbig's own boxing vs MMA :)
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Getbig's own boxing vs MMA :)
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MAIN EVENT
CHE VS PELLIUS
UNDERCARD
SGTSPAR VS MCANUS
MINDSPIN VS AVEY
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MAIN EVENT
CHE VS PELLIUS
UNDERCARD
SGTSPAR VS MCANUS
MINDSPIN VS AVEY
That would absolutely be the best day of my life. I'll fight MunchAnus in the parking lot with no rules cuz I don't want to hear ANY excuses. I think Mindspin and I will miss your fight though, cuz we'll be too busy high-fiving over the ass kickings we just inflicted.
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How many times and on how many threads have you owned this queer?
McAnusLicker makes me feel like a cotton plantation owner back in the early 1800's
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That would absolutely be the best day of my life. I'll fight MunchAnus in the parking lot with no rules cuz I don't want to hear ANY excuses. I think Mindspin and I will miss your fight though, cuz we'll be too busy high-fiving over the ass kickings we just inflicted.
;D
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I've coached for over 12 years Pellius (not so much in the last two years ) , If I tell you that you are wrong are you going to kick my ass :D
LOL!
So you don't think wrestling shoes, basketball shoes, baseball shoes, long distance/sprinting shoes, boxing shoes makes a whit of difference and it's all just hype? When I had heel spurs and had to wear wrestling shoes during training I definitely got more traction on the mat to shoot and in a clinch. How much of a real world difference does it make? I don't know. But when the difference between winning and losing become very small anything helps.
One of the draw backs with having more traction is I think the risk to knee injuries are greater since your foot is planted firmer. Not so much in boxing though as your not twisting it in a clinch and having to worry about throws.
Don't make me come over to wherever the hell you are.
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Yeah, I worked as a bouncer in a strip club because it was fun and added $25-30,000 a year tax free to my income for working 3 or 4 nights a week. During the day, I work as a system/database administrator. I also train in boxing and MMA, so you can bet this "sickening little creature" is not only smarter than you are, but also makes more money and can kick your ass.
You train but aren't pro which equates to you being fucking useless. You worked on a door, i have known millions of bouncers, all of them were complete failures at life. You keep training and standing around outside nightclubs, all the while knowing that you have zero potential to do fuck all with your life. :) Train in mma whats that...? that is what all the twelve year olds say who know fuck all about the arts, you train in a discipline not mma you little prick. All of your posts are crying about mma and mouthing off like the little insignificant fag you are, keep crying.
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MAIN EVENT
CHE VS PELLIUS
UNDERCARD
SGTSPAR VS MCANUS
MINDSPIN VS AVEY
I want to fight Avey though
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I want to fight Avey though
I don't want to fight Che. Looks too good in a thong. Wife not so bad either. And I can't find my Kung Fu shoes.
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You train but aren't pro which equates to you being fucking useless. You worked on a door, i have known millions of bouncers, all of them were complete failures at life. You keep training and standing around outside nightclubs, all the while knowing that you have zero potential to do fuck all with your life. :) Train in mma whats that...? that is what all the twelve year olds say who know fuck all about the arts, you train in a discipline not mma you little prick. All of your posts are crying about mma and mouthing off like the little insignificant fag you are, keep crying.
Lol, you ever hear the saying "Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."? Every time you post, you look dumber. Every sentence of that proves your a tool. If someone isn't a pro at something, they are useless? What are you a pro at, apart from looking retarded? Do you lift? If you aren't a pro, you're useless. You have known "millions of bouncers"? I guess you are no better at math than logic. As far as zero potential at life, I'm a system and database admin, own my own house, three vehicles, have a great savings account and have no bills. I also had the balls to get into the ring and to work in the roughest clubs in Phoenix. What about you? Here is another wake-up call for you, MMA has been its own discipline for about 15 tears now. What have you ever done? One of us is insignificant all right. You have never made single logical point and you're still too dumb to just close your mouth and walk away. I bet you can't even count the number of times you have been punked in your life so you come on an internet board thinking you can be cool here and then you get punked again. How many times do you need to be made a fool of? "Millions"? You're a tool, you've always been a tool, and you'll always be a tool. Shut your cum dump before I push you down and take your lunch money.
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JOLENE
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Lol, you ever hear the saying "Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."? Every time you post, you look dumber. Every sentence of that proves your a tool. If someone isn't a pro at something, they are useless? What are you a pro at, apart from looking retarded? Do you lift? If you aren't a pro, you're useless. You have known "millions of bouncers"? I guess you are no better at math than logic. As far as zero potential at life, I'm a system and database admin, own my own house, three vehicles, have a great savings account and have no bills. I also had the balls to get into the ring and to work in the roughest clubs in Phoenix. What about you? Here is another wake-up call for you, MMA has been its own discipline for about 15 tears now. What have you ever done? One of us is insignificant all right. You have never made single logical point and you're still too dumb to just close your mouth and walk away. I bet you can't even count the number of times you have been punked in your life so you come on an internet board thinking you can be cool here and then you get punked again. How many times do you need to be made a fool of? "Millions"? You're a tool, you've always been a tool, and you'll always be a tool. Shut your cum dump before I push you down and take your lunch money.
Boom! Sgtspar laying the smack-down!
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Lol, you ever hear the saying "Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."? Every time you post, you look dumber. Every sentence of that proves your a tool. If someone isn't a pro at something, they are useless? What are you a pro at, apart from looking retarded? Do you lift? If you aren't a pro, you're useless. You have known "millions of bouncers"? I guess you are no better at math than logic. As far as zero potential at life, I'm a system and database admin, own my own house, three vehicles, have a great savings account and have no bills. I also had the balls to get into the ring and to work in the roughest clubs in Phoenix. What about you? Here is another wake-up call for you, MMA has been its own discipline for about 15 tears now. What have you ever done? One of us is insignificant all right. You have never made single logical point and you're still too dumb to just close your mouth and walk away. I bet you can't even count the number of times you have been punked in your life so you come on an internet board thinking you can be cool here and then you get punked again. How many times do you need to be made a fool of? "Millions"? You're a tool, you've always been a tool, and you'll always be a tool. Shut your cum dump before I push you down and take your lunch money.
So you have a regular decent paying job and you are a bouncer at night? If your under 25 than thats cool. If your over 25 then you really need to get your ego in check. And if you have kids, holy shit bro. Just saying
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I don't want to fight Che. Looks too good in a thong. Wife not so bad either. And I can't find my Kung Fu shoes.
C'mon man let's do it for charity, the proceeds will go to Musclemcanus anus reconstruction .
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So you have a regular decent paying job and you are a bouncer at night? If your under 25 than thats cool. If your over 25 then you really need to get your ego in check. And if you have kids, holy shit bro. Just saying
I haven't bounced in about 3 years. When I did I was way past 25, but I don't know what ego has to do with it. Like I said, it added between $25 and $35 thousand a year tax free to my income. You wouldn't like to have 2 or 3k a month extra play money? I wasn't married and don't have kids, but what does ego have to do with it? Also, the best bouncers I know are all in their 30s and 40s, some even older, and they are the best bouncers cuz they are long past the stage of thinking being a bouncer is cool, they don't act like bullies, and they do it because they like it and the money is good. I don't do it anymore because the places I worked were pretty rough and I got sick of it. Two friends got shot working there and I got stabbed twice. I bounced for a couple years after that, but the job I'm at now pays $80k so I don't need the extra money anymore.
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Lol, you ever hear the saying "Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."? Every time you post, you look dumber. Every sentence of that proves your a tool. If someone isn't a pro at something, they are useless? What are you a pro at, apart from looking retarded? Do you lift? If you aren't a pro, you're useless. You have known "millions of bouncers"? I guess you are no better at math than logic. As far as zero potential at life, I'm a system and database admin, own my own house, three vehicles, have a great savings account and have no bills. I also had the balls to get into the ring and to work in the roughest clubs in Phoenix. What about you? Here is another wake-up call for you, MMA has been its own discipline for about 15 tears now. What have you ever done? One of us is insignificant all right. You have never made single logical point and you're still too dumb to just close your mouth and walk away. I bet you can't even count the number of times you have been punked in your life so you come on an internet board thinking you can be cool here and then you get punked again. How many times do you need to be made a fool of? "Millions"? You're a tool, you've always been a tool, and you'll always be a tool. Shut your cum dump before I push you down and take your lunch money.
Brutal ownage by the SgtSpar.
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C'mon man let's do it for charity, the proceeds will go to Musclemcanus anus reconstruction .
The only financing I will do for that colossal ignorant queer is his hanging.
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Shut your cum dump before I push you down and take your lunch money.
Some of the lamest shit I've ever read on this board.
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Some of the lamest shit I've ever read on this board.
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MAIN EVENT
CHE VS PELLIUS
UNDERCARD
SGTSPAR VS MCANUS
MINDSPIN VS AVEY
what the fuck???
where am I in this?
2 time national judo champ you ace, i want a spot... ;D
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Some of the lamest shit I've ever read on this board.
I'm glad you chimed in, it brings up something I have been thinking about lately. In fact, it brings up the greatest single thing that internet forums provide. You see, in life, when someone pushed your little homosexual friend Jaime down in front of you, you would, rightfully, be afraid to say anything for fear of getting your ass kicked. You would have stood there quietly, red-faced at your own embarrassment for doing nothing while your friend quietly cried out his humiliation onto the ground. The rest of that day, and for many, many days after, you would play it over and over in your head, fantasizing about the way you should have done something, ANYTHING, to protect your frail friend that isn't smart enough to keep his shit-talking mouth shut when that would be the best course of action. You would lie in bed at night dreaming over the different things you could have done, while knowing any help you tried to provide would only have resulted in your ass kicking as well, while doing nothing for your scared, simple friend. But times have changed my friend! Boards were developed for rational discussion and discourse, but best of all, for allowing you to stand tall and proud and shriek at the highest volume your girly voice can muster "That's it, we aren't going to take it anymore! You leave him alone you bad man!", and guys everywhere can rejoice, for now you can stand up to your oppressors without getting beaten down, pantsed, or having your face smeared in dog excrement! Its a proud day my friends, a proud day! Stand tall James, stand tall! You don't have to take it anymore!
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What the hell is that? An alligator?
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I'm glad you chimed in, it brings up something I have been thinking about lately. In fact, it brings up the greatest single thing that internet forums provide. You see, in life, when someone pushed your little homosexual friend Jaime down in front of you, you would, rightfully, be afraid to say anything for fear of getting your ass kicked. You would have stood there quietly, red-faced at your own embarrassment for doing nothing while your friend quietly cried out his humiliation onto the ground. The rest of that day, and for many, many days after, you would play it over and over in your head, fantasizing about the way you should have done something, ANYTHING, to protect your frail friend that isn't smart enough to keep his shit-talking mouth shut when that would be the best course of action. You would lie in bed at night dreaming over the different things you could have done, while knowing any help you tried to provide would only have resulted in your ass kicking as well, while doing nothing for your scared, simple friend. But times have changed my friend! Boards were developed for rational discussion and discourse, but best of all, for allowing you to stand tall and proud and shriek at the highest volume your girly voice can muster "That's it, we aren't going to take it anymore! You leave him alone you bad man!", and #### everywhere can rejoice, for now you can stand up to your oppressors without getting beaten down, pantsed, or having your face smeared in dog excrement! Its a proud day my friends, a proud day! Stand tall James, stand tall! You don't have to take it anymore!
Shut your cum dump before I push you down and take your lunch money.
Your powers of perception are as lame as your retarded grade school put downs.. You come across like a middle aged geek.
You’re rapidly approaching toolbag status.
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This thread started off interesting.
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Lol, you ever hear the saying "Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."? Every time you post, you look dumber. Every sentence of that proves your a tool. If someone isn't a pro at something, they are useless? What are you a pro at, apart from looking retarded? Do you lift? If you aren't a pro, you're useless. You have known "millions of bouncers"? I guess you are no better at math than logic. As far as zero potential at life, I'm a system and database admin, own my own house, three vehicles, have a great savings account and have no bills. I also had the balls to get into the ring and to work in the roughest clubs in Phoenix. What about you? Here is another wake-up call for you, MMA has been its own discipline for about 15 tears now. What have you ever done? One of us is insignificant all right. You have never made single logical point and you're still too dumb to just close your mouth and walk away. I bet you can't even count the number of times you have been punked in your life so you come on an internet board thinking you can be cool here and then you get punked again. How many times do you need to be made a fool of? "Millions"? You're a tool, you've always been a tool, and you'll always be a tool. Shut your cum dump before I push you down and take your lunch money.
you are without doubt a true getbigger!
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Those two guys probably believe Wrestling is real too
Avey do you still watch Wrestlemania?
Do you walk around Peckham wearing a sleeveless top with british Bulldog tattooes all over you?
Just cos you have a fucking boxers nose, doesnt mean your a boxer
Thats from getting beaten with cocks all through your teenage years
Sorry i ve been away for 5 days so havent been around to answer you lowlifes. I dont live in Peckham,Lewisham. Also id gladly fight you on a card, i dont want to fight gay bodybuilder mindspin hed probably try and fuck me.
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you are without doubt a true getbigger!
Except that I'm telling the truth and I don't have a jet, my own cruise ship, or hundreds of women throwing themselves at me. Either way, you're still a b1tch.
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i dont want to fight .... mindspin hed probably try and fuck me.
After making you squeal like a pig.
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Sorry i ve been away for 5 days so havent been around to answer you lowlifes. I dont live in Peckham,Lewisham. Also id gladly fight you on a card, i dont want to fight gay bodybuilder mindspin hed probably try and fuck me.
come on now. That's not true. But I would inseminate your wife and then make you clean her up, before I went in for round two :)
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come on now. That's not true. But I would inseminate your wife and then make you clean her up, before I went in for round two :)
LOL! But I can assure you that Avery is very much single, and by the looks of him, will remain so.
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Hey Spar didn't I tell you about sum of these tools ;D
When you coming down, MOTHERFOCKER!!!!!!!!!!!????
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come on now. That's not true. But I would inseminate your wife and then make you clean her up, before I went in for round two :)
If you did that you d be going back to the US in a coffin! ;)
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"Pellius" im divorced with 2 kids,how about you?
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"Pellius" im divorced with 2 kids,how about you?
I got you beat. I was never married have two daughters and 4 grand children. In fact as we type I am western union my daughter money to pay for a ticket she got in Texas while visiting her mom. The money pit never stops.
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Tell me about it, the kids cost a large percentage of my 7 figure salary! ;D
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Tell me about it, the kids cost a large percentage of my 7 figure salary! ;D
You don't count the digits after the decimal point.
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Hey Spar didn't I tell you about sum of these tools ;D
When you coming down, MOTHERFOCKER!!!!!!!!!!!????
Soon man, soon. I need a road trip anyway.