Boxing vs MMA

[pellius]

McMannus is a troll. It's his game. He's not supposed to make any sense. 

LOL. I think he's serious. But he is also a woman trapped in a man's body (I use the term "man's body" very loosely here).

[keanu]

LOL. I think he's serious. But he is also a woman trapped in a man's body (I use the term "man's body" very loosely here).

If he's serious, he needs to check himself into the psych ward of the hospital he works at.

[pellius]

If he's serious, he needs to check himself into the psych ward of the hospital he works at.

You know, on second thought you might be right. He gets so brutally owned on every thread he goes on that he may just be a troll putting on an act. I remember even Swede humiliating him not long ago.
 
I guess it's safe to say he won't be posting any of his pics anytime soon.

[MuscleMcMannus]

Actually, I was never on the thread you speak of. Never been in a band. I'm an engineer. I live on the beach in Hawaii, the most expensive State in the Union. But, you're right, I am old. Just turned 50. This is a pic of my old and decrepit body taken a few days ago. I'm sure you could put me to shame with your polish, fighting ready, physique. Post one up, nurse.

Haha get a fucking life you pathetic fucking loser.  You're 50 fucking years old and you're posting on a fucking board where the average age is probably 25.  You and noworries should hook up.  You both have so much in common.  He could be your big hairy muscle bear and you could be his little bottom boy twink.  You're fucking tiny and your midsection looks like that of a fucking starving African.  Seriously, at 50 years old don't you have anything better to do?  Wife?  Gf?  Kids? Or all people from Hawaii fucking losers like you?  

[MuscleMcMannus]

You know, on second thought you might be right. He gets so brutally owned on every thread he goes on that he may just be a troll putting on an act. I remember even Swede humiliating him not long ago.
 
I guess it's safe to say he won't be posting any of his pics anytime soon.

Well if I've been brutally owned on every thread it's safe to say you've been fucking anally raped in just about every thread you post in.  Haha I'm 30 years old dipshit. 

[MuscleMcMannus]

It's not the kicks he has to worry about. The boxer has no idea how to defend against anything but punches standing up.

Umm you can't hit anyone on the back of the head in MMA hence why an MMA fighter can get away with going in for the take down.  one swift hammer punch or regular punch to the back of the head of someone trying to go for your legs it's lights out!   

[pellius]

Haha get a fucking life you pathetic fucking loser.  You're 50 fucking years old and you're posting on a fucking board where the average age is probably 25.  You and noworries should hook up.  You both have so much in common.  He could be your big hairy muscle bear and you could be his little bottom boy twink.  You're fucking tiny and your midsection looks like that of a fucking starving African.  Seriously, at 50 years old don't you have anything better to do?  Wife?  Gf?  Kids? Or all people from Hawaii fucking losers like you?  

But yet you will never show how great a 30 year old specimen like you looks like. Isn't time to change some bed pans, honey?

[SgtSpar]

Boxers do everything they can to stay on their feet in a fight......most MMA guys sole goal is to go to the ground.  Now in a real street fight on concrete which would you rather be better at?  Going to the ground or staying on your feet able to throw powerful, fast punches.  Size also matters.  If I'm 6'5 and I'm fighting some midget grappler who is 5'9 and I'm a great boxer....the poor little fucker wouldn't have a chance.  LOL......again size matters.  That's why James Toney and Randy Couture were pretty much equal in size and stature.

Ask me this question......why did the MMA instill weight classes and why are most matches evenly paired up these days?  How come you never see a BJ Penn going up against a dude twice his size?  Because he'd get his ass handed to him.  The MMA has completely changed what the previous point of the idea was.  

You're right, boxers do everything they can to stay on their feet.  How did that work for Toney?  Toney and his trainers say he worked 2 hours a day for 9 months just on take down defense. There is your "little tweaking".  BTW, Couture never threw a kick.  Not one.  Tell me one thing, just one, that would have gone differently if that fight had happened in a parking lot instead of the cage.  No matter where that fight happened, Couture gets the takedown, the boxer is completely unable to defend himself on the ground, boxer gets beaten senseless.  Couture could have beaten on Toney for the entire fight instead of tapping him out to save him the punishment.  Did you notice the only person landing punches that entire fighter?  Here is a hint: it wasn't the boxer.  As far as you "guaranteeing" a tall boxer beats the shorter MMA guy, that is beyond absurd.  It has been proven over and over that a boxer cannot stop the MMA guy from taking him down.  Being taller isn't going to stop that.  

When MMA did have weight classes, a 170 lb guy was winning all the fights.  The reason they added weight classes was for the same reason they added time limits.  Pay-per-view sells a certain time block.  For a 150lb fighter to beat a 250lb fighter takes much longer.  Royce's fight with Dan Severn went over 15 minutes.  Some of Helio Gracie's fights were more than 3 hours when they had a huge size difference.

BTW, the only people that think an MMA guy's "sole goal is to go to the ground" are people that don't train in it and don't have a clue.  They are just repeating the same old worn out excuses that everyone uses, in spite of the fact that it isn't true.

[MuscleMcMannus]

Toney is an out of shape, fat, average professional boxer.  Terrible representation of what a real boxer is all about.  I mean look at the guy.  He's a slob.  Just like that other fool who Kimbo.  If a real boxer that was serious about training entered into the MMA he'd be a serious contender.

[MuscleMcMannus]

But yet you will never show how great a 30 year old specimen like you looks like. Isn't time to change some bed pans, honey?

No because I wouldn't want old man fags like you drooling over my picture.  You'd probably shop it around to all your other 50 year old pillow biter friends.  No thanks.  Now I understand why you hang out on getbig.  You probably troll for 20 something homos to seduce through the internet. 

[SgtSpar]

  Let's put it this way slick.....I'd rather be an expert in boxing and a novice in kicking and grappling in a street fight vs. being a novice in boxing and an expert in kicking and grappling.  It's doesn't take years and years of training to learn how to kick.  Nor does it take years and years of training to learn how to grapple and most of the time in a real fight grappling isn't very effective.  Hence, when it comes down to it....I'd much rather be able to throw some powerful fucking punches on some motherfuckers, with speed and precision.  A good boxer is 10x faster than your best MMA guy at throwing a solid punch.  A jab is one of the most effective skills in a fight short of kicking.  Plus boxers are used to taking punches to the head.  This silly debate could go on and on.  Put Randy Couture in a parking lot and a Mike Tyson and the latter would fucking destroy the former.  That's about as realistic as MMA fighting is in the street.  In other words let me put it to you in fucking retard terms so you can understand........put the BEST that boxing has to offer i.e. MIKE TYSON vs. the best that MMA has to offer aka Chuck Liddell or Couture or jackass Jackson and Tyson would destroy any of them.  That's my point.  James Toney is probably the worst boxing has to offer going up against the best MMA has to offer. 

Every word of this is retarded.  What you would "rather be" is irrelevant to the discussion.  Its take longer to learn to kick well than to punch well.  Thats why there are lots of great punchers, few great kickers.  People use their hands every day constantly.  They are much more coordinated than your legs.

Its does take years of training to be a great grappler.  The best in MMA have been wrestling or training BJJ since they were small children.  With no rules, no time limits, in real fights in the most violent cities in the world, BJJ reigns supreme.

A good boxer is 10x faster?  Retarded.

Couture and Tyson would look just like aby boxer vs MMA guy:  Boxer gets taken down, is completely helpless, gets beaten until the MMA guy is tired of beating on him.

James Toney has almost 70 fights, 44 knockouts and has never been stopped in a fight.  Couture is almost 50 years old, has a 15-8 record, and hasn't been the top of the sport for tears now, if ever.  Toney is the worst boxing has to offer against the best MMA has to offer?  Proof that you are clueless.  Put any boxer in the world ANY boxer against the best MMA has to offer, Lesnar, Fedor, GSP, the same thing happens.  Boxing gets another black eye.

Now, as Pellius said, try actually answering the post instead of going off on one of your emotional Bitch rants where all you do is name call and spew garbage instead of answering any of the points made.

[SgtSpar]

Toney is an out of shape, fat, average professional boxer.  Terrible representation of what a real boxer is all about.  I mean look at the guy.  He's a slob.  Just like that other fool who Kimbo.  If a real boxer that was serious about training entered into the MMA he'd be a serious contender.

He trained 5 to 6 hours a day for 9 months for this fight.  He has 44 knockouts out of 60+ fights and has never been stopped in a fight.  Couture is 15-8.

Kimbo was not a boxer, he was a backyard brawler.  Same result though.

[MuscleMcMannus]

Every word of this is retarded.  What you would "rather be" is irrelevant to the discussion.  Its take longer to learn to kick well than to punch well.  Thats why there are lots of great punchers, few great kickers.  People use their hands every day constantly.  They are much more coordinated than your legs.

Its does take years of training to be a great grappler.  The best in MMA have been wrestling or training BJJ since they were small children.  With no rules, no time limits, in real fights in the most violent cities in the world, BJJ reigns supreme.

A good boxer is 10x faster?  Retarded.

Couture and Tyson would look just like aby boxer vs MMA guy:  Boxer gets taken down, is completely helpless, gets beaten until the MMA guy is tired of beating on him.

James Toney has almost 70 fights, 44 knockouts and has never been stopped in a fight.  Couture is almost 50 years old, has a 15-8 record, and hasn't been the top of the sport for tears now, if ever.  Toney is the worst boxing has to offer against the best MMA has to offer?  Proof that you are clueless.  Put any boxer in the world ANY boxer against the best MMA has to offer, Lesnar, Fedor, GSP, the same thing happens.  Boxing gets another black eye.

Now, as Pellius said, try actually answering the post instead of going off on one of your emotional Bitch rants where all you do is name call and spew garbage instead of answering any of the points made.

LOL you've actually never trained in martial arts or boxing.  Haha Toney a formidable boxer..... Go back to eating donuts fatty. 

[MuscleMcMannus]

He trained 5 to 6 hours a day for 9 months for this fight.  He has 44 knockouts out of 60+ fights and has never been stopped in a fight.  Couture is 15-8.

Kimbo was not a boxer, he was a backyard brawler.  Same result though.

Dude who the fuck cares look at his fucking physique.  The dude is a fucking fat slob.  He obviously didn't train hard enough.  Shit man you are fucking dumb!  Either that are you are a fat slob yourself who has no clue what it means to be in shape.  The guy has fucking man boobs. 

[spinnis]

Dude who the fuck cares look at his fucking physique.  The dude is a fucking fat slob.  He obviously didn't train hard enough.  Shit man you are fucking dumb!  Either that are you are a fat slob yourself who has no clue what it means to be in shape.  The guy has fucking man boobs.  

if you're not a gimmick then honestly, seek help ... seriously..


sticking to your word is one thing but this is retarded man.. I still think youi're a gimmick. No other explination..

[SS]

You're right, boxers do everything they can to stay on their feet.  How did that work for Toney?  Toney and his trainers say he worked 2 hours a day for 9 months just on take down defense. There is your "little tweaking".  BTW, Couture never threw a kick.  Not one.  Tell me one thing, just one, that would have gone differently if that fight had happened in a parking lot instead of the cage.  No matter where that fight happened, Couture gets the takedown, the boxer is completely unable to defend himself on the ground, boxer gets beaten senseless.  Couture could have beaten on Toney for the entire fight instead of tapping him out to save him the punishment.  Did you notice the only person landing punches that entire fighter?  Here is a hint: it wasn't the boxer.  As far as you "guaranteeing" a tall boxer beats the shorter MMA guy, that is beyond absurd.  It has been proven over and over that a boxer cannot stop the MMA guy from taking him down.  Being taller isn't going to stop that.  

When MMA did have weight classes, a 170 lb guy was winning all the fights.  The reason they added weight classes was for the same reason they added time limits.  Pay-per-view sells a certain time block.  For a 150lb fighter to beat a 250lb fighter takes much longer.  Royce's fight with Dan Severn went over 15 minutes.  Some of Helio Gracie's fights were more than 3 hours when they had a huge size difference.

BTW, the only people that think an MMA guy's "sole goal is to go to the ground" are people that don't train in it and don't have a clue.  They are just repeating the same old worn out excuses that everyone uses, in spite of the fact that it isn't true.

Couture kicking tubby in the head till he's dead, no ref to stop Couture from making the tubby shit himself, Couture pissing on him after he smacks the dumb out of his mumbling fat ass.......I'm pretty sure you can think of a few

[spinnis]

Couture kicking tubby in the head till he's dead, no ref to stop Couture from making the tubby shit himself, Couture pissing on him after he smacks the dumb out of his mumbling fat ass.......I'm pretty sure you can think of a few

I wonder of toney realises if that hapopen in a "real" fight couture would just have held the choke and ....killed him..

...Could have killed if if he Wanted to lol.

Can you imagine if boxing actually won how much shit they would talk, now every mma fan knew this was going to happen yet everyone is still respectful and gives him props for even daring to do it, imagine if it was the other way around.

[_bruce_]

Titus owns the cage

[pellius]

if you're not a gimmick then honestly, seek help ... seriously..

sticking to your word is one thing but this is retarded man.. I still think youi're a gimmick. No other explination..

The reason this McAnus is such a joke around here and gets no respect is that he insist on speaking with authority on something he knows nothing about. Reading some of his comments and scenarios about what would happen in a "real" fight makes it abundantly clear that he's never been in a "real" fight and knows nothing about fighting and combat sports. He's the typical know-it-all arm chair athlete presuming to speak for professional boxers, none whom makes the claims he does. He is fall better suited to changing bed pans, passing out lunch trays, and giving sponge baths to wrinkly old men.

There is something very feminine about this bottom biitch.

[bodybuilder1234]

Toney is stationary, hes not the type of boxer to use alot of footmovement which would help alot in MMA
He was a great champion like 15 years ago but now hes just an average boxer, the only reason hes a heavyweight in the first place is because he loves to eat.
His best weight was at 168lbs so by no means is he a natural heavyweight, just a blown up one.

MMA beats boxing in a street fight but Toney was a bad boxing representative for MMA vs boxing

[pellius]

No because I wouldn't want old man fags like you drooling over my picture.  You'd probably shop it around to all your other 50 year old pillow biter friends.  No thanks.  Now I understand why you hang out on getbig.  You probably troll for 20 something homos to seduce through the internet. 

No, it's because you know, I know, and the rest of the board knows that you don't look like you've ever pick up a weight in your entire life. This is a bodybuilding board where people show what kind of shape they are in. That's one of the reasons why you're here and will look at every picture thread without hesitation. You're using the oldest excuse and the biggest cop out in the book. Thinking homos will "drool" over you. Like you wouldn't enjoy and get off on that. You can easily post non-droolable pics and you would if you were in any kind of shape. But you're not so you won't. Just like you are not, and never have been a fighter.

This is GetBig where we weed out the liars and poseurs. That is why no one, NO ONE, respects you and considers you a joke with a lot of disturbing feminine characteristics. Now go back to putting on your nurse's skirt and sticking thermos in old men's rectums.

BTW queer, I've been meaning to tell you: "You're a queer!"

[_bruce_]

I prefer boxing.
Both mma and boxing have their specific charm.
If I had to learn one it would chose boxing because the aura of mma is not exactly to my liking and I think one needs to be experienced in many fighting skills to attain the right to train for mma.

[noworries]

Dude who the fuck cares look at his fucking physique.  The dude is a fucking fat slob.  He obviously didn't train hard enough.  Shit man you are fucking dumb!  Either that are you are a fat slob yourself who has no clue what it means to be in shape.  The guy has fucking man boobs. 

You are a fat fucking slob and you are the baddest dude on Getbig.  Tell us one of your fables lies stories about how you best up 5 guys.  Show that video of another guy fighting and telling us thats how you are.  Come on we need some funny stuff fromn you again.

[MindSpin]

If the question is: can an elite boxer beat an elite Mixed Martial Artist in a "real" fight, then the answer is quite simple.  Fighting in a UFC cage is as close to a "real" fight as we're going to get, and Randy Couture, a past his prime MMA guy, just humiliated James Toney, a passed his prime boxer.

Bottom line, a mixed martial artist usually has world-class skills in some form of martial arts (usually BJJ or wrestling) and has developed other areas to a decent enough level.  The result?  Being able to effectively use fists, elbows, knees, legs and chokes either standing or on the ground.

All a boxer has is the ability to throw punches on his feet.

In a "real" fight it would be no contest.

End of argument!

[NarcissisticDeity]

If the question is: can an elite boxer beat an elite Mixed Martial Artist in a "real" fight, then the answer is quite simple.  Fighting in a UFC cage is as close to a "real" fight as we're going to get, and Randy Couture, a past his prime MMA guy, just humiliated James Toney, a passed his prime boxer.

Bottom line, a mixed martial artist usually has world-class skills in some form of martial arts (usually BJJ or wrestling) and has developed other areas to a decent enough level.  The result?  Being able to effectively use fists, elbows, knees, legs and chokes either standing or on the ground.

All a boxer has is the ability to throw punches on his feet.

In a "real" fight it would be no contest.

End of argument!

End of argument is right , Boxer loses excuses flow like wine until the next boxer gets beat