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Title: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: Tom on September 08, 2010, 07:32:49 AM
just read an article that says that a pint of milk is all you truly need post workout? has protein, carbs, casein and why, vitamins, etcetera.

a very cheap and just as good post workout drink as opposed to expensive post workout supplement drinks.

a pint is 16 ounces, hmm, don't know if 16 ounces of milk ( skim milk) has enough protein or carbs that a person needs post workout?

article said you can drink this pint of milk and eat a banana if you want some extra  carbs after your workout.

Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: benchmstr on September 08, 2010, 10:18:19 AM
thats 16 grams of protein in 16oz of milk.....and a lot of people cant drink milk....so no, its not all i need..

bench
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: Master Blaster on September 08, 2010, 10:21:50 AM
I am addicted to the magic powder. I always take some overpriced extra crap just in case it helps.  ;)
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: MCWAY on September 08, 2010, 10:34:54 AM
just read an article that says that a pint of milk is all you truly need post workout? has protein, carbs, casein and why, vitamins, etcetera.

a very cheap and just as good post workout drink as opposed to expensive post workout supplement drinks.

a pint is 16 ounces, hmm, don't know if 16 ounces of milk ( skim milk) has enough protein or carbs that a person needs post workout?

article said you can drink this pint of milk and eat a banana if you want some extra  carbs after your workout.



It's all you need.....IF YOU WEIGH 160 lbs or so. I'm 230...NO WAY a pint of milk gets it done for me.

I can get RTDs or MRPs with 2-3 times as much protein for LESS than a pint of milk (in fact, there are some Monster Milk packs I have to pick up later today at GNC ;D ).

Carb-wise, I'm covered there, too (though I'm almost out of the CELL-TECH I bought a month and a half ago).

Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: benchmstr on September 08, 2010, 10:35:29 AM
I am addicted to the magic powder. I always take some overpriced extra crap just in case it helps.  ;)
i go through protein powder faster than likely anybody else on this board...

bench
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: MCWAY on September 08, 2010, 10:37:05 AM
i go through protein powder faster than likely anybody else on this board...

bench

Is that right?

 ;D
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: PROBOUND on September 08, 2010, 10:49:18 AM
It's all you need.....IF YOU WEIGH 160 lbs or so. I'm 230...NO WAY a pint of milk gets it done for me.

I can get RTDs or MRPs with 2-3 times as much protein for LESS than a pint of milk (in fact, there are some Monster Milk packs I have to pick up later today at GNC ;D ).

Carb-wise, I'm covered there, too (though I'm almost out of the CELL-TECH I bought a month and a half ago).



What? You're still hooked on this stuff? All ya gotta do is crack a couple of eggs put in milk, bingo, you have all the protein you need. CHEAP too!  ;D
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: MCWAY on September 08, 2010, 11:23:38 AM
What? You're still hooked on this stuff? All ya gotta do is crack a couple of eggs put in milk, bingo, you have all the protein you need. CHEAP too!  ;D

Been there; done that; broke two blenders in the process.

The RTDs are CHEAPER, taste better, and don't need refrigeration. Plus, I don't have a blender to clean.

Case in point, the Worldwide Nutrition Pure Protein RTD I have in my bag, which cost me $0.65
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: R.A.M. on September 08, 2010, 12:19:50 PM
i go through protein powder faster than likely anybody else on this board...

bench

whats ur poundage look like bench? 5 pounds a week?
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: Master Blaster on September 08, 2010, 12:36:59 PM
i go through protein powder faster than likely anybody else on this board...

bench

 ;D
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: benchmstr on September 08, 2010, 01:57:23 PM
whats ur poundage look like bench? 5 pounds a week?
i go through a 10lbs bag of ON in 2 weeks sometimes...usually a 4 pound jug of cassien too....lately its been taking me almost 3 weeks to go through a 10lbs bag though..i have bee cooking a lot more latley...

i dont even do it for muscle growth or anything...i just like protein shakes...

bench
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: R.A.M. on September 08, 2010, 02:05:59 PM
damn thats a high protein bill. Your kidneys must work overtime with all that extra protein!!!!
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: Montague on September 08, 2010, 03:05:53 PM
What? You're still hooked on this stuff? All ya gotta do is crack a couple of eggs put in milk, bingo, you have all the protein you need. CHEAP too!  ;D


That’s exactly what they did back in the 60’s, and guys who did it right got some excellent results.
For the low-carb crowd, heavy cream was used in lieu of milk due to its “0” carbohydrate content.

Oftentimes, protein powder was added, although Gironda claimed a few times that it was just for taste.

Interestingly enough, most of today’s best-selling powders are blends consisting of milk & egg derivatives.
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: PROBOUND on September 08, 2010, 03:53:01 PM

That’s exactly what they did back in the 60’s, and guys who did it right got some excellent results.
For the low-carb crowd, heavy cream was used in lieu of milk due to its “0” carbohydrate content.

Oftentimes, protein powder was added, although Gironda claimed a few times that it was just for taste.

Interestingly enough, most of today’s best-selling powders are blends consisting of milk & egg derivatives.


There is a good reason for this. Eggs contain around 18 of the 22-24 amino acids in protein. So, it's the best buy for the buck. ;)
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: PROBOUND on September 08, 2010, 03:56:56 PM
Been there; done that; broke two blenders in the process.

The RTDs are CHEAPER, taste better, and don't need refrigeration. Plus, I don't have a blender to clean.

Case in point, the Worldwide Nutrition Pure Protein RTD I have in my bag, which cost me $0.65

Huh? You can get a dozen eggs for around $1.60, depending where you shop. I can get the pub. brand and get around 18 eggs fro a $1.80. You don't need a blender. Just shake N take. ;)
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: MCWAY on September 08, 2010, 04:23:44 PM
Huh? You can get a dozen eggs for around $1.60, depending where you shop. I can get the pub. brand and get around 18 eggs fro a $1.80. You don't need a blender. Just shake N take. ;)

The point: Notwithstanding the fact that I already consume eggs (which, incidentally cost less where I buy them than where you do), I can get the RTDs for about as much or for LESS. That's why I buy them. Here's the proof.

Let's see: One dozen eggs for $1.60, assuming those are large eggs, that's 72 grams of protein.

I just bought some Worldwide Nutrition Pure Protein RTDs, each containing 35 grams of protein, for $0.68

Therefore, two of those RTDs would give me 70 grams of protein (nearly the same amount as a dozen eggs) for $1.38, nearly a quarter LESS than a dozen eggs at the price you cited.

18 eggs for $1.80? That's 108 grams of protein. However, thanks to the markdowns at GNC, the Monster Milk MRPs are on sale for $1.17 each (which drops to $0.94 each with the Gold Card). Two of those is 100 grams of protein for $1.88.



Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: benchmstr on September 08, 2010, 04:27:30 PM
Huh? You can get a dozen eggs for around $1.60, depending where you shop. I can get the pub. brand and get around 18 eggs fro a $1.80. You don't need a blender. Just shake N take. ;)
allergic to eggs...

bench
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: benchmstr on September 08, 2010, 04:28:22 PM
damn thats a high protein bill. Your kidneys must work overtime with all that extra protein!!!!
not if you seen my fluid intake....i am always drinking something...its a non stop thing..

bench
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: Montague on September 08, 2010, 04:29:54 PM
allergic to eggs...

bench


Have you tried them lately?
Some people develop an allergy to eggs due to consuming too many over a period of time, but after a layoff, they're fine again.

The reason I ask is that I know you use ON's Pro-Complex, which contains egg white protein.

Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: benchmstr on September 08, 2010, 04:36:22 PM

Have you tried them lately?
Some people develop an allergy to eggs due to consuming too many over a period of time, but after a layoff, they're fine again.

The reason I ask is that I know you use ON's Pro-Complex, which contains egg white protein.


i dont use pro complex....i just use the gold standard whey and cassien....and custom mixes from true protein...

i have been allergic to eggs since birth....a lot of my standard vaccination shots were given to me growing up with a crash cart at arms length...i still cant have a flu shot because of it...

i still eat eggs sometimes...i refuse to say "no eggs" on a breakfast taco....i just take 4-5 benadryl a day to curb the effects...

bench
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: Montague on September 08, 2010, 04:41:33 PM
i dont use pro complex....i just use the gold standard whey and cassien....and custom mixes from true protein...

i have been allergic to eggs since birth....a lot of my standard vaccination shots were given to me growing up with a crash cart at arms length...i still cant have a flu shot because of it...

i still eat eggs sometimes...i refuse to say "no eggs" on a breakfast taco....i just take 4-5 benadryl a day to curb the effects...

bench


Sorry, man - for some reason, I had it in my head that you used P-C.
My bad.
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: benchmstr on September 08, 2010, 04:43:00 PM

Sorry, man - for some reason, I had it in my head that you used P-C.
My bad.

nah, i used a total of maybe 2 jugs of pro complex.....didnt really like it...

bench
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: Montague on September 08, 2010, 04:46:20 PM
I'm still contemplating trying the Carnivoir shots.
I realize they contain a lot of collagen-based protein, but I recently learned that they also add BCAA's to it.
It might be that combo that makes them so effective.

Have you gone back to using them?
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: benchmstr on September 08, 2010, 05:02:16 PM
I'm still contemplating trying the Carnivoir shots.
I realize they contain a lot of collagen-based protein, but I recently learned that they also add BCAA's to it.
It might be that combo that makes them so effective.

Have you gone back to using them?
not latley..i have been drinking a lot of beef protein from true protein though...

my mix..
cassien 25%
whey isolates 25%
beef protein 50%

the beef has a strong taste to it...

bench
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: Montague on September 08, 2010, 05:10:17 PM
not latley..i have been drinking a lot of beef protein from true protein though...

my mix..
cassien 25%
whey isolates 25%
beef protein 50%

the beef has a strong taste to it...

bench


Looks like a good formula.
Do you mix that with just water?
I presume a blender is required?
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: benchmstr on September 08, 2010, 05:15:59 PM

Looks like a good formula.
Do you mix that with just water?
I presume a blender is required?
ionized alkaline water...in a magic bullet at the house...

at work bottled water in a bodybuilding.com tornado shaker cup...
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: Master Blaster on September 08, 2010, 05:30:21 PM
Huh? You can get a dozen eggs for around $1.60, depending where you shop. I can get the pub. brand and get around 18 eggs fro a $1.80. You don't need a blender. Just shake N take. ;)

were I live eggs go from about $2.50 to $4.99. There are some places like trader joes that have cheaper but thats the exception
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: Montague on September 08, 2010, 05:33:39 PM
were I live eggs go from about $2.50 to $4.99.


Union chickens?
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: MCWAY on September 08, 2010, 07:14:20 PM
i dont use pro complex....i just use the gold standard whey and cassien....and custom mixes from true protein...

i have been allergic to eggs since birth....a lot of my standard vaccination shots were given to me growing up with a crash cart at arms length...i still cant have a flu shot because of it...

i still eat eggs sometimes...i refuse to say "no eggs" on a breakfast taco....i just take 4-5 benadryl a day to curb the effects...

bench

If you like ON Whey Gold Standard, then you absolutely MUST TRY (if you haven't already) ON NitroCore 24, ESPECIALLY the Strawberry Milkshake kind. It is TERRIFIC!! That's what I got (on clearance, of course).
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: benchmstr on September 08, 2010, 07:15:37 PM
If you like ON Whey Gold Standard, then you absolutely MUST TRY (if you haven't already) ON NitroCore 24, ESPECIALLY the Strawberry Milkshake kind. It is TERRIFIC!! That's what I got (on clearance, of course).
does it come in a 10lbs bag?

bench
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: MCWAY on September 08, 2010, 07:32:58 PM
does it come in a 10lbs bag?

bench

The biggest size I've seen is 6-lb jugs. Then again, I don't buy them wholesale. As you know, I hit GNC, when the jugs are on clearance.
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: PROBOUND on September 08, 2010, 08:08:43 PM
The point: Notwithstanding the fact that I already consume eggs (which, incidentally cost less where I buy them than where you do), I can get the RTDs for about as much or for LESS. That's why I buy them. Here's the proof.

Let's see: One dozen eggs for $1.60, assuming those are large eggs, that's 72 grams of protein.

I just bought some Worldwide Nutrition Pure Protein RTDs, each containing 35 grams of protein, for $0.68

Therefore, two of those RTDs would give me 70 grams of protein (nearly the same amount as a dozen eggs) for $1.38, nearly a quarter LESS than a dozen eggs at the price you cited.

18 eggs for $1.80? That's 108 grams of protein. However, thanks to the markdowns at GNC, the Monster Milk MRPs are on sale for $1.17 each (which drops to $0.94 each with the Gold Card). Two of those is 100 grams of protein for $1.88.



*Laughing With Ya, Not At Ya* You tickled me with this post bro. I didn't know you would break it down so eloquently, not that there is anything wrong with it. I just got tickled at your zeal to prove your point. I like that in a person.

I was wrong about the price. I just got back from Walmart, and the eggs are dirt cheap. Dozen jumbo right at $1.60. The 18'teens were $1.80. Keep in mind too, that the jumbo's usually are anywhere from 7-9 grams per. Also keep in mind, I am use to drinking a quart per post workout. I used to be hefty, if you will.

Anyway, I'm still laughing, again you tickled the dickens out of me with this post.



P.S.

With those new prices I just cited, what would be the difference now. Can you give grams of protein, and money if ya don't mind. I can see that you have that kind of mind and would love to break it down. Also, wouldn't the quality of the product be in subjection? For instance, I'm thinking that all these vendors are trying to make products last longer, which would require them to do things to their products which would be a detriment to the human body. What's your take on that. *still chuckling*.
Title: Re: post workout: all you need is milk?
Post by: Master Blaster on September 08, 2010, 08:13:04 PM

*Laughing With Ya, Not At Ya* You tickled me with this post bro. I didn't know you would break it down so eloquently, notwithstanding there is anything wrong with it. I just got tickled at your zeal to prove your point. I like that in a person.

I was wrong about the price. I just got back from Walmart, and the eggs are dirt cheap. Dozen jumbo right at $1.60. The 18'teens were $1.80. Keep in mind too, that the jumbo's usually are anywhere from 7-9 grams per. Also keep in mind, I am use to drinking a quart per post workout. I used to be hefty, if you will.

Anyway, I'm still laughing, again you tickled the dickens out of me with this post.



P.S.

With those new prices I just cited, what would be the difference now. Can you give grams of protein, and money if ya don't mind. I can see that you have that kind of mind and would love to break it down. Also, wouldn't the quality of the product be in subjection? For instance, I'm thinking that all these vendors are trying to make products last longer, which would require them to do things to their products which would be a detriment to the human body. What's your take on that. *still chuckling*.

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