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I always give props when its due.
Cain was better then the Vikining last night. Now we saw the inexperience that Brock actually has. Only 2 year in the making though.
When he learns to stay calm in thsoe stressfull situuations (which comes with experience) he will become better.
Props to Cain he looked great. And Brock Will come back stronger.
AWESOME fucking card overall.
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lesnar simply gassed out. it took me a while personally to attain great stamina, this was only met through a better diet
lesnar's meat diet is good for size and strength but lacks for endurance and health
cain probably ate more bean meals , while eating with a more balanced approach your physique wont look all that ripped but you will have energy
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lesnar simply gassed out. it took me a while personally to attain great stamina, this was only met through a better diet
lesnar's meat diet is good for size and strength but lacks for endurance and health
cain probably ate more bean meals , while eating with a more balanced approach your physique wont look all that ripped but you will have energy
I dont actually think he was gassed I think he was Hurt.. he took alot of punishment from carwin and managed to stand up and tak him down, btu when brock stood up this time he was Woobly as fuck. So I think he was hurt Bad. And went 3 hard rounds against herring.
Nasty nasty cut also
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. Now I saw the inexperience that Brock actually has.
FIXED
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He needs to find people who cant PUT him in those extremly stressfull situations! :)
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FIXED
when have I ever said he was experienced? His wrestling has been enough until now. Great start to the round though lol.
then again besides cain who can handle his wrestling in the hw division..? No one hits/wrestles like cain
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when have I ever said he was experienced? His wrestling has been enough until now. Great start to the round though lol.
10 hobbits,,, ;) in the shire
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10 hobbits,,, ;) in the shire
I was hoping that flying knee would connect ;D that would have been gold lol.
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lesnar simply gassed out. it took me a while personally to attain great stamina, this was only met through a better diet
lesnar's meat diet is good for size and strength but lacks for endurance and health
cain probably ate more bean meals , while eating with a more balanced approach your physique wont look all that ripped but you will have energy
racist quote reported.
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Erik Paulson is a badass. But besides him, I wonder if they PUSH him or just sucks his dick. He needs to find new damn training partners.
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I dont actually think he was gassed I think he was Hurt.. he took alot of punishment from carwin and managed to stand up and tak him down, btu when brock stood up this time he was Woobly as fuck. So I think he was hurt Bad. And went 3 hard rounds against herring.
Nasty nasty cut also
i think those flying knees gassed him he put his max effort in the first few seconds. A man with a better diet and can recover his muscles more quickly. However with brocks superior force he just barely missed victory in the beginning. I think brock could beat him but brock is no dominater after a few minites in
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i think those flying knees gassed him he put his max effort in the first few seconds. A man with a better diet and can recover his muscles more quickly. However with brocks superior force he just barely missed victory in the beginning. I think brock could beat him but brock is no dominater after a few minites in
I think he got waay hurt =)
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Erik Paulson Brock Lesnar is a badass. But besides him, I wonder if they PUSH him or just sucks his dick. He needs to find new damn training partners.
This.
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I think he got waay hurt =)
hows the egyptian studies going?
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Erik Paulson is a badass. But besides him, I wonder if they PUSH him or just sucks his dick. He needs to find new damn training partners.
The problem with Brock is that he is not used to getting hit ,he doesn't like to get hit in the face and he is too old to learn that(deffense ) .
If Brock gets the take down and gets on top possiton he can beat any HW in the world including Fedor,Overeem......ETC
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This.
he needs to be put in those awkward positions every fucking day. and its apparant hes not..
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Nasty nasty cut also
It was a brutal wound. like a weeping vagina.
It was good to see Brock going for some flying knees, like you say it would've been great if they'd hit the spot and ended the fight.
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The problem with Brock is that he is not used to getting hit ,he doesn't like to get hit in the face and he is too old to learn that(deffense ) .
If Brock gets the take down and gets on top possiton he can beat any HW in the world including Fedor,Overeem......ETC
better headmovement and feet movement and punches to set up the takedown =) I dont know if any other hw beats him in the ufc though
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he needs to be put in those awkward positions every fucking day. and its apparant hes not..
He needs to spend the next 6 months with a boxing coach, a real one that trains real boxers, not some buddies in the mountains somewhere. As president of his fan club Swede! you are responsible for getting him this message:
"Leave the mountains and train with a real boxing coach, you big fucking doofus!!"
You can sing that "chaos" if you don't have the sack to take credit for it..
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He needs to spend the next 6 months with a boxing coach, a real one that trains real boxers, not some buddies in the mountains somewhere. As president of his fan club Swede! you are responsible for getting him this message:
"Leave the mountains and train with a real boxing coach, you big fucking doofus!!"
You can sing that "chaos" if you don't have the sack to take credit for it..
I doubt brock will even be good at boxing, Imo he should learn enough to just being able to set up the TD.. his standing up did look alot better in this fight the previous though, but cains striking is on a whole other level.. Sop against a hw without the striking of cain imo it would have looked alot improved. (far from GOOD though)
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He needs to spend the next 6 months with a boxing coach, a real one that trains real boxers, not some buddies in the mountains somewhere. As president of his fan club Swede! you are responsible for getting him this message:
"Leave the mountains and train with a real boxing coach, you big fucking doofus!!"
You can sing that "chaos" if you don't have the sack to take credit for it..
6 month ;D
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He needs to spend the next 6 months with a boxing coach, a real one that trains real boxers, not some buddies in the mountains somewhere. As president of his fan club Swede! you are responsible for getting him this message:
"Leave the mountains and train with a real boxing coach, you big fucking doofus!!"
You can sing that "chaos" if you don't have the sack to take credit for it..
There are no mountains anywhere near Brock. lol
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Who will he fight in the comback who will pose a threat is the question though.
Probably a rematch with carwin im guessing
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6 month ;D
It would put him in a better place than he is now, and possibly keep him from rolling into a ball when someone swings at him.
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when have I ever said he was experienced? His wrestling has been enough until now. Great start to the round though lol.
then again besides cain who can handle his wrestling in the hw division..? No one hits/wrestles like cain
The Cain hype has begun now i see.
Before knocking out the shell of Nog nobody fought Cain had any striking or power, he got dropped by Congo countless times and looked less than stellar standing in his other fights and couldn't really finish guys. He has potential and is getting very well rounded but lets not make out he is some monster standing.
You should take a look at my thread, Brock Verbally submitted, at least we won't see you making threads every two seconds about how tough this guy is.
He has zero fighting instinct, he gets hit and runs away.
Fedor and Overeem would clean knock Brock out and Carwin would probably do the same in a rematch.
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The Cain hype has begun now i see.
Before knocking out the shell of Nog nobody fought Cain had any striking or power, he got dropped by Congo countless times and looked less than stellar standing in his other fights and couldn't really finsih guys. He has potential and is getting very well rounded but lets not make out he is some monster standing.
You should take a look at my thread, Brock Verbally submitted, at least we won't see you making threads every two seconds about how tough this guy is.
He has zero fighting instinct, he gets hit and runs away.
Fedor and Overeem would clean knock Brock out and Carwin would probably do the same in a rematch.
Lol as I said, cain vs anyone else then lesnar I would root for cain.
And to say lesnar is not tough after the beateing he took from carwin is retarded. Hopefully he finds away to turn of that panic button, if not hes gonna have problem with great wrestlers that can strike. I dont see him loosing against any weak wrestlers though. If this fight was again mir for exampe again, mir would have ended up flat on his back right away and not being able to move.
Strong wrestler and great hands is his kryptonite.
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lesnar simply gassed out. it took me a while personally to attain great stamina, this was only met through a better diet
lesnar's meat diet is good for size and strength but lacks for endurance and health
cain probably ate more bean meals , while eating with a more balanced approach your physique wont look all that ripped but you will have energy
Exactly!
that's why Mexican-Americans have a longer life span that white Americans. They still eat their traditional foods. While whites are the biggest meat eaters.
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i think those flying knees gassed him he put his max effort in the first few seconds he just barely missed victory in the beginning. I think brock could beat him but brock is no dominater after a few minites in
Waddy
Who and what sport are you talking about?
Gassed after a few seconds?
You watched the fight? Or you just watched any Random Bob Sapp fight?
Why do you try to make theories if you never saw the fight or
know anything about the fighter?
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It would put him in a better place than he is now, and possibly keep him from rolling into a ball when someone swings at him.
6 month wouldn't change a thing (defense ) , in 6 month he could improve his offense a little bit.
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Lol as I said, cain vs anyone else then lesnar I would root for cain.
And to say lesnar is not tough after the beateing he took from carwin is retarded. Hopefully he finds away to turn of that panic button, if not hes gonna have problem with great wrestlers that can strike. I dont see him loosing against any weak wrestlers though. If this fight was again mir for exampe again, mir would have ended up flat on his back right away and not being able to move.
Strong wrestler and great hands is his kryptonite.
He didn't take a beating. Marciano took beatings, Ali took beatings, real beatings, about 100 times what Brock took against far more dangerous punchers. Brock curled up in a ball and covered his head, slightly different.
Mir has absolutley abysmal wrestling, of course Brock would beat him again.
lol Cain doesn't have anything close to great hands, he got dropped about three times against Congo.
Brock is very similar to Mir actually, they get hit at all and they give up.
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He didn't take a beating. Marciano took beatings, Ali took beatings, real beatings, about 100 times what Brock took against far more dangerous punchers. Brock curled up in a ball and covered his head, slightly different.
Mir has absolutley abysmal wrestling, of course Brock would beat him again.
lol Cain doesn't have anything close to great hands, he got dropped about three times against Congo.
Brock is very similar to Mir actually, they get hit at all and they give up.
yeah brock gave up in the carwin fight and didn't come back and win...
This time he was hurt Badly though.
and carwin has great hands for mma.
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yeah brock gave up in the carwin fight and didn't come back and win...
This time he was hurt Badly though.
and carwin has great hands for mma.
So what about your hero bitching out on the bottom to herb?
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Carwin gassed. Brock curled up, Carwin punched his arms because under unified rules you can't stamp on peoples heads and gassed out.
Brock subbed out a corpse.
He gave up against Cain.
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So what about your hero bitching out on the bottom to herb?
he needs to be put in that situation in training so he doesn't panick :)
they are doing soemthing wrong. thats the problem with having your Own facility everyone treats you like a god probably.
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he needs to be put in that situation in training so he doesn't panick :)
they are doing soemthing wrong. thats the problem with having your Own facility everyone treats you like a god probably.
Him getting brain damage in sparring probably isn't a good idea.
He doesn't have heart, he isn't going to learn it.
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Carwin gassed. Brock curled up, Carwin punched his arms because under unified rules you can't stamp on peoples heads and gassed out.
Brock subbed out a corpse.
He gave up against Cain.
yes he gave up, thats why he didnt come back and win the fight :)
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Him getting brain damage in sparring probably isn't a good idea.
He doesn't have heart, he isn't going to learn it.
they can do different stuff to put poeple in certian situations to work on the mental aspect
he at least needs to change things the fuck up.
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Will you be changing your Avatar swede ?
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Will you be changing your Avatar swede ?
lol. hell no ;D
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yes he gave up, thats why he didnt come back and win the fight :)
Curling up and offering nothing back is giving up. If he did that in boxing or k-1 the fight would be stopped, if he did it in the street he would be dead.
What round did he win in genius? He turtled Carwin gassed and then in the second round he subbed a corpse.
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Curling up and offering nothing back is giving up. If he did that in boxing or k-1 the fight would be stopped, if he did it in the street he would be dead.
What round did he win in genius? He turtled Carwin gassed and then in the second round he subbed a corpse.
he panicked then started punching back while he was on the ground :) and eventually got back up.
Giving up your back in mma when you're close to being ko'd is a good thing. leaves another option.
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I was hoping that flying knee would connect ;D that would have been gold lol.
in end brock still wins for sure,,,he gets more money win or lose than any fighter out there,,,last fight 4 million win or lose he wins,,,ha ha ha cain loses only getrs 80kk,,,,maybe
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in end brock still wins for sure,,,he gets more money win or lose than any fighter out there,,,last fight 4 million win or lose he wins,,,ha ha ha cain loses only getrs 80kk,,,,maybe
brock's already richer then anyone in the ufc though. but yeah hes the biggest draw win or lose
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6 month wouldn't change a thing (defense ) , in 6 month he could improve his offense a little bit.
We'll have to disagree on that. :)
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they can do different stuff to put poeple in certian situations to work on the mental aspect
he at least needs to change things the fuck up.
Don't see it. Guys like Bruno used to do the same thing, of course not as bad as Brock...He never improved and he started training when he was a kid.
Instinct takes over and Brock has a bully mentality.
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He doesn't have heart,
I usually agree with you Jaime but I have to disagree here .
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We'll have to disagree on that. :)
What , do you want to fight big guy ?
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Don't see it. Guys like Bruno used to do the same thing, of course not as bad as Brock...He never improved and he started training when he was a kid.
Instinct takes over and Brock has a bully mentality.
Brock has had that his entire life. but its gotten better after the illness so hopefully he understand what he needs to do in order to become better now, and NOT just go back to the same old people. be brought in barry and his striking did look better. but its not enough.
then again, who besides carwin/cain has a chance to beat brock in the ufc?
I WISH he would go to aka for a while. and actually train with cain. maby the only person that could help him improve Alot combined with cain's coaches ofc.
he has the money to bring in Anyone he wants. but he should go there for a while. I doubt it though
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What , do you want to fight big guy ?
Second round TKO! >:(
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I usually agree with you Jaime but I have to disagree here .
Pride might be a better word. It's like the mexican fighters, you know that they will take their punishment like a man. I just don't percieve turning your back and turtling as a pridefull way to fight. I was watching Ali eating flush shots from Shavers the other day on youtube, it just seems like night and day.
You have to give him credit for coming in to mma, he didn't need to and he came back against Carwin, it's just the manner of it that i find disagreeable. If he would calm down with all the third person, toughest guy in thw world talk i wouldn't be so critical.
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Second round TKO! >:(
no way you make it to the 2nd round >:(
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Pride might be a better word. It's like the mexican fighters, you know that they will take their punishment like a man. I just don't percieve turning your back and turtling as a pridefull way to fight. I was watching Ali eating flush shots from Shavers the other day on youtube, it just seems like night and day.
Ali wouldnt take anything near as many hits with mma gloves. you understand that though. especially from top boxers. Toney was Shocked over how small the gloves were.
he needs to get rid of the panick thouhg if he can.
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Pride might be a better word. It's like the mexican fighters, you know that they will take their punishment like a man. I just don't percieve turning your back and turtling as a pridefull way to fight. I was watching Ali eating flush shots from Shavers the other day on youtube, it just seems like night and day.
You have to give him credit for coming in to mma, he didn't need to and he came back against Carwin, it's just the manner of it that i find disagreeable. If he would calm down with all the third person, toughest guy in thw world talk i wouldn't be so critical.
No Jaime he was totally outclassed and run out of gas , don't forget that many boxing legends (with great hearts/pride) quit when they were tired and outclassed, Morales ,Barrera ,Duran ...........etc.
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no way you make it to the 2nd round >:(
Dude I would totally sweep the leg.
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Ali wouldnt take anything near as many hits with mma gloves. you understand that though. especially from top boxers. Toney was Shocked over how small the gloves were.
he needs to get rid of the panick thouhg if he can.
All the old school fighters did in the days when the gloves were basically mma gloves.
Go watch some Marciano fights.
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Dude I would totally sweep the leg.
That's illegal >:(
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No Jaime he was totally outclassed and run out of gas , don't forget that many boxing legends (with great hearts/pride) quit when they were tired and outclassed, Morales ,Barrera ,Duran ...........etc.
Duran quit because Ray wouldn't engage, slightly different Che. I watched Morales go and trade in the twelfth against Msnny when it coulfd have cost him the fight. 90% of guys would never do that. It happens, i agree, but Brock doesn't fight with pride full stop, i'm not going to change my mind on that.
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Duran quit becasue Ray wouldn't engage, slightly different Che. I watched Morales go and trade in the twelfth against Msnny when it coulfd have cost him the fight. It happens, i agree, but Brock doesn't fight with pride full stop, i'm not going to change my mind on that.
Duran quit because he was outclassed .
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That's illegal >:(
You got a problem with that?
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Duran quit because he was outclassed .
He didn't quit because he was taking a beating, he was being petulant. I don't agree with it but it's a completely different scenario.
A direct comparison would be him quiting when Hearns was lighting him up.
Ray shoe shining and outboxing him is slightly different to being in the trenches. He was a drugged up mess at the time anyway.
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He didn't quit because he was taking a beating, he was being petulant. I don't agree with it but it's a completely different scenario.
A direct comparison would be him quiting when Hearns was lighting him up.
Ray shoe shining and outboxing him is slightly different to being in the trenches. He was a drugged up mess at the time anyway.
It doesn't matter what was the reason for quitting ,when you have heart/pride you just don't quit.
BTW Morales quit in the 3rd round against Manny .
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I always give props when its due.
Cain was better then the Vikining last night. Now we saw the inexperience that Brock actually has. Only 2 year in the making though.
When he learns to stay calm in thsoe stressfull situuations (which comes with experience) he will become better.
Props to Cain he looked great. And Brock Will come back stronger.
AWESOME fucking card overall.
Cain destroyed him in all apects of MMA. Brock was fresh,and had a hard time taking him down...When he did get Cain down,he couldn't keep him down... Then he got out struck,then got taken down ,then dropped,then ground and pounded to death.. Brock is a bully,that got bullied by a smaller and better fighter..
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Swedes hero
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You got a problem with that?
I do.
Fuck that I'm not fighting you :(
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lesnar simply gassed out. it took me a while personally to attain great stamina, this was only met through a better diet
lesnar's meat diet is good for size and strength but lacks for endurance and health
cain probably ate more bean meals , while eating with a more balanced approach your physique wont look all that ripped but you will have energy
Whoa you're back?! Haven't been paying attention to the board much as of late. Fucking A the Falcon is back.
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It doesn't matter what was the reason for quitting ,when you have heart/pride you just don't quit.
BTW Morales quit in the 3rd round against Manny .
Morales was washed up Che and still took about a 100 times the punishment that Brock took.
Erik came to fight, he would often trade when he didn't need to, that's heart and pride. If he was hurt and couldn't continue, so be it. If a fighter is hurt then that's their perogative, i don't want to see guys get brain damage for the fun of it.
There is a way to fight and a way not to fight. It can get abstarct at times, but i think you know what i'm getting at.
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Swedes hero
a defeted brock lesnar who will come back stronger and better then ever thats for sure =)
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Brock didnät stay calm, he displayed a lot of very weird energy expenditure.
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Brock didnät stay calm, he displayed a lot of very weird energy expenditure.
the begining was great. exactly what he should have done to avoid clean good strikes right away, come in from an angle to shock cain. Cains hands are just too damn fast though.
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. If he was hurt and couldn't continue, so be it. If a fighter is hurt then that's their perogative,
Maybe Brock was hurt.
Morales wasn't hurt ,he sat there looked at his corner and said I'm done.
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The problem with Brock is that he is not used to getting hit ,he doesn't like to get hit in the face and he is too old to learn that(deffense ) .
If Brock gets the take down and gets on top possiton he can beat any HW in the world including Fedor,Overeem......ETC
You're right that he hates getting hit and he reacts worse to it that anyone I've seen.
Your next sentence is wrong though. He did get the takedown and got the top position. Cain just got right back up and beat his ass. And he may be able to take Fedor down before getting knocked out, but if he did, Fedor would take his arm and finish the fight anyway. Mir is no where near Fedor's level on the ground and Fedor wouldn't just be stuck and helpless there.
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You're right that he hates getting hit and he reacts worse to it that anyone I've seen.
Your next sentence is wrong though. He did get the takedown and got the top position. Cain just got right back up and beat his ass. And he may be able to take Fedor down before getting knocked out, but if he did, Fedor would take his arm and finish the fight anyway. Mir is no where near Fedor's level on the ground and Fedor wouldn't just be stuck and helpless there.
I said '' he could'' not that he would beat any HW in the world. A fight is a fight anything can happen in MMA.
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hows the egyptian studies going?
Is this the real Johnny "Kale Greens" Falcon?
:D
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Maybe Brock was hurt.
Morales wasn't hurt ,he sat there looked at his corner and said I'm done.
You really think he wasn't hurt? I suppose McClellan wasn't hurt either. Erik was done, he was out on his feet for about 2 minutes leading up to the stoppage. He was also weight drained against Manny, there were huge contractual stipulations.
Erik had a shit load of ability, he used to trade becasue he had heart, it's not complicated.
Eating flush combinations off of Manny is a tad more impressive than turtling after getting hit with a glancing overextended uppercut from Carwin. Zero comparison.
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Is this the real Johnny "Kale Greens" Falcon?
:D
Yea Ron posted he was giving him another last chance no relapses this time.
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You really think he wasn't hurt? I suppose McClellan wasn't hurt either. Erik was done, he was out on his feet for about 2 minutes leading up to the stoppage. He was also weight drained against Manny, there were huge contractual stipulations.
Erik had a shit load of ability, he used to trade because he had heart, it's not complicated.
Eating flush combinations off of Manny is a tad more impressive than turtling after getting hit with a glancing overextended uppercut from Carwin. Zero comparison.
Brock turtling isn't because his lack of heart ,it's because his lack of skills.
I've been involved in boxing my whole life from fighting to coaching ,believe me I know when somebody is hurt.
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the begining was great. exactly what he should have done to avoid clean good strikes right away, come in from an angle to shock cain. Cains hands are just too damn fast though.
Lol dude snap out of it. Pillow fist knocked your wrestling god down multiple times.
He isnt a fighter and will never be a good one the next X years.
Guys like JDS, cain etc have lightyears more experience than he will ever be able to attain before turning 60.
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Brock turtling isn't because his lack of heart ,it's because his lack of skills.
I've been involved in boxing my whole life from fighting to coaching ,believe me I know when somebody is hurt.
agreed..che speaks the truth & has far more 1st hand knowledge than the majority on this board...
that being said...brock was hurt...
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Brock turtling isn't because his lack of heart ,it's because his lack of skills.
I've been involved in boxing my whole life from fighting to coaching ,believe me I know when somebody is hurt.
I box Che, so i guess we will have to disagree.
Erik looks hurt, he is visibly hurt for about two minutes of that round lol.
Lesnar turtles because it is instinctive for him to do so.
My first day ever sparring, i was put against aganst a really speedy kid and i had never had a single fight in my life. He lit me up, he must have hit me about 200 hundred times, i just kept walking forward, instinct. Brock is like Frank they have no instinct.
Heart/instinct/pride whatever you want to call it.
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agreed..che speaks the truth & has far more 1st hand knowledge than the majority on this board...
I love you too :-* (no homo)
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I love you too :-* (no homo)
;D
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My first day ever sparring, i was put against aganst a really speedy kid and i had never had a single fight in my life. He lit me up, he must have hit me about 200 hundred times, i just kept walking forward, instinct. Brock is like Frank they have no instinct.
You need to try getting hit with 4 oz gloves. If you can take 200 hits then and keep walking forward, you're superman. BTW, che is right, and you're a tool.
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I box Che, so i guess we will have to disagree.
Erik looks hurt, he is visibly hurt for about two minutes of that round lol.
Lesnar turtles because it is instinctive for him to do so.
My first day ever sparring, i was put against aganst a really speedy kid and i had never had a single fight in my life. He lit me up, he must have hit me about 200 hundred times, i just kept walking forward, instinct. Brock is like Frank they have no instinct.
Heart/instinct/pride whatever you want to call it.
OK :D
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You need to try getting hit with 4 oz gloves. If you can take 200 hits then and keep walking forward, you're superman. BTW, che is right, and you're a tool.
Fuck off shithead. ;)
Che is wrong. Morales is clearly hurt.
I'm not talking about me being tough i'm talking about panicking and instinct. I have seen loads of guys who don't back down even when getting lit up.
I respect Che, i just happen to disagree with him this time.
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Erik Paulson is a badass. But besides him, I wonder if they PUSH him or just sucks his dick. He needs to find new damn training partners.
yep
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Fuck off shithead. ;)
Che is wrong. Morales is clearly hurt.
I'm not talking about me being tough i'm talking about panicking and instinct. I have seen loads of guys who don't back down even when getting lit up.
I respect Che, i just happen to disagree with him this time.
Everyone's instinct when something is hitting them in the head is to cover their head. Everyone. Training makes you do something differently than that. Some people need less training, some need more. Getting hit in the face bothers some people much more than others. But getting hit with a 4oz glove and a 10, 12, or 16 oz glove is a whole different ballgame.
As far as whether he is hurt, I think you two are just arguing semantics. To have a valid discussion about it, you first have to agree on what the word "hurt" means.
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The Cain hype has begun now i see.
Before knocking out the shell of Nog nobody fought Cain had any striking or power, he got dropped by Congo countless times and looked less than stellar standing in his other fights and couldn't really finish guys. He has potential and is getting very well rounded but lets not make out he is some monster standing.
You should take a look at my thread, Brock Verbally submitted, at least we won't see you making threads every two seconds about how tough this guy is.
He has zero fighting instinct, he gets hit and runs away.
Fedor and Overeem would clean knock Brock out and Carwin would probably do the same in a rematch.
LOLOLOLOLOL...that's exactly what i thought when he curled up like a fucking girl and said "i quit"
what a fucking PUSSY....a straight up bitch.
And X2 on Swede shutting the fuck up already about how "bad' Brock is......he is a pussy at heart that gets scared when someone hits him.
I can only imagine the look on Swedes face....the abject HORROR as the love of his life got beat up and humiliated. It is the most painful moment of his life HAHAHAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAAAA AA :D :D :D
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I can only imagine the look on Swedes face....the abject HORROR as the love of his life got beat up and humiliated. It is the most painful moment of his life HAHAHAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAAAA AA :D :D :D
why would I get upset when a better fighter wins? I would get upset if it was stopped to early or something like that, not when it was obvious cain was the better fighter :)
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Lol as I said, cain vs anyone else then lesnar I would root for cain.
And to say lesnar is not tough after the beateing he took from carwin is retarded. Hopefully he finds away to turn of that panic button, if not hes gonna have problem with great wrestlers that can strike. I dont see him loosing against any weak wrestlers though. If this fight was again mir for exampe again, mir would have ended up flat on his back right away and not being able to move.
Strong wrestler and great hands is his kryptonite.
So, in others word...if some is a GOOD all around fighter Brock cant beat him.....oh yeah, he's a beast ::)
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why would I get upset when a better fighter wins? I would get upset if it was stopped to early or something like that, not when it was obvious cain was the better fighter :)
::) ::) i'm sure you were just fine with it
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::) ::) i'm sure you were just fine with it
Dissapointed ofc but not more then that =) feel free to believe whatever you want though
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Dont know why Brock didnt just at least Try and LOCK cain up from the ground. (its easy to say but anyway lol)
Needs to change fucking partners thats for sure.
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Everyone's instinct when something is hitting them in the head is to cover their head. Everyone. Training makes you do something differently than that. Some people need less training, some need more. Getting hit in the face bothers some people much more than others. But getting hit with a 4oz glove and a 10, 12, or 16 oz glove is a whole different ballgame.
As far as whether he is hurt, I think you two are just arguing semantics. To have a valid discussion about it, you first have to agree on what the word "hurt" means.
I think it goes deeper than that. Although i would agree that with striking the more you get hit the more comfortable you become with it.
Certain guys just panic when getting hit, Wlad springs to mind as does Bruno who i referenced earlier. Career long fighters none the less, who still haven't rectified the problem.
Yeah glove size makes a difference, but 10 oz Reyes and an mma glove isn't hugely different in regards to force. There is a test they did on it floating about somewhere. It's a lot about padding distribution, some gloves have all the padding on the knuckles, which is a pain in the ass if you are trying to get maximum force.
Second point. Yes, i guess that is the case.
He looks out on his feet for more a less the entirety of the third to me, but there in lies the debate.
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Dissapointed ofc but not more then that =) feel free to believe whatever you want though
LOLOLOLOL....the brave little man is keeping a stiff upper lip in the face of his hero being destroyed and exposed as a talentless lump of shit with no heart.....he "quit" HAHAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAA
Fatpanda now has company in the "quitter" club :D :D
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Lesnar has no idea how to protect himself
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Dont know why Brock didnt just at least Try and LOCK cain up from the ground. (its easy to say but anyway lol)
Needs to change fucking partners thats for sure.
it's not his training....he was scared and exposed as a pussy. once he realized that being bigger and stronger wasn't going to get it done this time he gave up
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LOLOLOLOL....the brave little man is keeping a stiff upper lip in the face of his hero being destroyed and exposed as a talentless lump of shit with no heart.....he "quit" HAHAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAA
Fatpanda now has company in the "quitter" club :D :D
Im not the one coming across as desperate lol.
Brock will come back better thats for sure. needs more experience.
tell me though who else in the ufc can beat him besides cain/carwin and maaaaaaaaaaaaby jds? (doubtful) =) even after just 2 years of mma training.
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Lesnar has no idea how to protect himself
why the fuck didn't he just try and lock cain up is something I dont understand. something he should be able to do even if he panicks if he has ...practised it long enough. apparently he hasn't which is strange. which leads one to think that he should get NEW training partners.
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Im not the one coming across as desperate lol.
Brock will come back better thats for sure. needs more experience.
tell me though who else in the ufc can beat him besides cain/carwin and maaaaaaaaaaaaby jds? (doubtful) =) even after just 2 years of mma training.
Try about 4 years Swede. That and he had a great wrestling background beforehand. Wrestling is the best base to have in mma, so with a bit of sub defence it does well against guys that aren't well rounded. The division is still pretty shallow, so there aren't a huge ammount of guys who are going to negate his wrestling at the moment.
He needed to make improvements after the Carwin fight, the fact he didn't, probably means that he has gone as far as he can go. I think given the mental aspect as well, he might have real trouble coming back.
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Im not the one coming across as desperate lol.
Brock will come back better thats for sure. needs more experience.
tell me though who else in the ufc can beat him besides cain/carwin and maaaaaaaaaaaaby jds? (doubtful) =) even after just 2 years of mma training.
Every post is lol. The only people I know who do that are girls. WTF is wrong with you.
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Try about 4 years Swede. That and he had a great wrestling background beforehand. Wrestling is the best base to have in mma, so with a bit of sub defence it does well against guys that aren't well rounded. The division is still pretty shallow, so there aren't a huge ammount of guys who are going to negate his wrestling at the moment.
He needed to make improvements after the Carwin fight, the fact he didn't, probably means that he has gone as far as he can go. I think given the mental aspect as well, he might have real trouble coming back.
I actually think his standup looked better, threw alot more clean shots just durign that little time then he had before.. But not anywhere near cains striking level ofc.
problem is, I dont see anyone else then cain/carwin beating him... Thats the problem. whats the comback match? mir? he woudl jsut kill him again wouldn't learn anything. I guess Carwin.. but I think brock could to what he did to cain int his fight and carwin wouldnt be able to stand up...
then again his striking would Have to get better before facing carwin again, so I guess thats coming up. Only 2 years in the making though so he has the potential to get Alot better. Nedds to SWITCH up his camps though. Didnt even have a basic guard..
if he had great ju jutsu this fight Might have gone differently. So I almost think he needs to focus on that More then his boxing even,
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Bullshit his boxing is atrocious, he needs to learn how to throw a punch and how to block/move his head. He needs to get out of bumfuck where ever and into a real camp.
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Bullshit his boxing is atrocious, he needs to learn how to throw a punch and how to block/move his head. He needs to get out of bumfuck where ever and into a real camp.
he needs to More learn how to hold basic guard..
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Bullshit his boxing is atrocious, he needs to learn how to throw a punch and how to block/move his head. He needs to get out of bumfuck where ever and into a real camp.
he needs to More learn how to hold basic guard..
Basically he needs to learn how to be a real Mixed Martial Artist.
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Basically he needs to learn how to be a real Mixed Martial Artist.
pretty much lol.
and he needs NEW coaches to teach him.
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Hold basic guard? ::)
You really are a delusional fuckwad.
Pulling guard yesterday wouldn't have done shit, he was so gassed he would have had a heart attack in the middle of the octagon if he tried to posture up and control Cain's head/ wrists.
And what happened? I thought Brock earned his Purple Belt in BJJ ( must have been from an internet BJJ school).
The bottom line is that he can't box, he can't kick, he can't defend himself and when things get rough, he runs like a pussy and covers his head. Also throw in the fact that he has no stamina, no heart and the second he can't bully the other fighter with his size and strength he panics. Lesnar is nothing but an unworthy, overhyped, can who had no business being a UFC champ in the first place.
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we arent talking about a spring chicken that has time to grow he's a guy in his mid 30's & he will not evolve...he will be out of mma within 18-24 months...
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we arent talking about a spring chicken that has time to grow he's a guy in his mid 30's & he will not evolve...he will be out of mma within 18-24 months...
say that if he still looks like this more then 2 years of mma training =) at least 5..
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Brock was a money making gimmick Dana White brought in when the UFC was having trouble with Randy Couture. Randy's leaving with the title, the success of foreign fighters aquired from the PRIDE buyout, the rise of other American based fighting organizations with TV contracts scared Dana that he might lose his key market demographic (12-40) year old white American males.
Dana, being a smart businessman, reacted by changing many of his sponsors including more "pro-military" "pro-american" businesses. Going to the wrestling well was genius move...not from a purist standpoint, but certainly from profit one. Brock agreed to "play his part" because he is an actor and Dana helped to make him legitimate by supplying the trainers and giving him a title shot so early.
It's as much a gimmick as bringing in a "boxer" or giving a Youtube street fighter a shot in the ring. I'm waiting for the Brock vs Brown bear fight!!
Anything to hold onto that demographic that buys the PPV, clothes and whatever else the sponsors are selling.
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Hold basic guard? ::)
You really are a delusional fuckwad.
Pulling guard yesterday wouldn't have done shit, he was so gassed he would have had a heart attack in the middle of the octagon if he tried to posture up and control Cain's head/ wrists.
And what happened? I thought Brock earned his Purple Belt in BJJ ( must have been from an internet BJJ school).
The bottom line is that he can't box, he can't kick, he can't defend himself and when things get rough, he runs like a pussy and covers his head. Also throw in the fact that he has no stamina, no heart and the second he can't bully the other fighter with his size and strength he panics. Lesnar is nothing but an unworthy, overhyped, can who had no business being a UFC champ in the first place.
Indeed....what a pathetic display of cowardice that was.....he literally quit while laying on the ground like a total pussy....."please stop hitting me, please stop hitting me"......Hahaaaaaahaaaaaaa
some "fighter" ::) ::)......... when the other guys fights back and throws punches, he curls up into a ball and quits
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say that if he still looks like this more then 2 years of mma training =) at least 5..
He has been training mma for over 4 years, for the second time. :)
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Indeed....what a pathetic display of cowardice that was.....he literally quit while laying on the ground like a total pussy....."please stop hitting me, please stop hitting me"......Hahaaaaaahaaaaaaa
some "fighter" ::) ::)......... when the other guys fights back and throws punches, he curls up into a ball and quits
haha- I think he was waiting for the Ultimate Warrior to storm the octagon with a steel chair, or have Sable take her top off to distract the ref, so he could kick Cain in the groin or poke him in the eye and then powerbomb him.
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Online tips for professional fighters :D
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I didnt see the fight. But If I was Dana white and sticking to his business model he's just trying to tap into a new market. Lets cut the shit the Hispanic population/market is fucking huge in the US. This was a good idea.
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Hahhahaa Praxis bringing the truth!!