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Title: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: littleguns on December 07, 2010, 08:14:21 AM
Ok was skimming the new Flex and saw the placement earnings, what's wrong with this picture

202

1st place $10K
2nd         $4K
3rd          $3K
4th          $2K
5th          $1K

But all the Women's events, Figure, Fitness and Ms O

1st - $28K
2nd - $14K
3rd - $8k
4th - $5K
5th - $3k

WHat's wrong with this picture?
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: mass243 on December 07, 2010, 08:39:39 AM
WTF is 202  ???

If you can't handle it in open, stay amateur.
202 is like if there was F1-mini class for F1-racers... IT'S CALLED AMATEUR!

Fuck this thing is giving pro bodybuilding a bad name. 202 -"pros" don't deserve even that 10k prize money. How can there be semi-pro in pro division?

Huh.....! Only in bodybuilding...


Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on December 07, 2010, 09:00:09 AM
WTF is 202  ???

If you can't handle it in open, stay amateur.
202 is like if there was F1-mini class for F1-racers... IT'S CALLED AMATEUR!

Fuck this thing is giving pro bodybuilding a bad name. 202 -"pros" don't deserve even that 10k prize money. How can there be semi-pro in pro division?

Huh.....! Only in bodybuilding...





so in boxing , a middle weight champion is "semi pro" ::) ::)


uh, no sir..........that is a stuipid stupid way of lookin at it..................boxi ng has weights divisions, MMA has weigth divisions

because even a mediocre heavy weight, would be able ot trounce the greatest middle weight ever.............it creates parity, its good for competition


this opens up compeition for very short competitors, how ALWAYS , no matter how goo their physiques..........get looked over in favor of taller competitors

this is  a good idea, and the level of competition , completeness, and conditionin gin the 202 is ofter waybetter then the open
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: Chick on December 07, 2010, 09:04:29 AM
Ok was skimming the new Flex and saw the placement earnings, what's wrong with this picture

202

1st place $10K
2nd         $4K
3rd          $3K
4th          $2K
5th          $1K

But all the Women's events, Figure, Fitness and Ms O

1st - $28K
2nd - $14K
3rd - $8k
4th - $5K
5th - $3k

WHat's wrong with this picture?

Nothing is wrong with it, other than the fact that the 202 has only been in existance for a few short (no pun intended) years....it will be increased this year, along with all qualifyers getting expenses paid to the O
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on December 07, 2010, 09:07:23 AM
Nothing is wrong with it, other than the fact that the 202 has only been in existance for a few short (no pun intended) years....it will be increased this year, along with all qualifyers getting expenses paid to the O


didnt stupid bikinin get paid more then 202 (which has been around longer as well)?
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: Chick on December 07, 2010, 09:15:46 AM

didnt stupid bikinin get paid more then 202 (which has been around longer as well)?

Bikini purse was 15K

202 was 20K
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on December 07, 2010, 11:33:04 AM
Nothing is wrong with it, other than the fact that the 202 has only been in existance for a few short (no pun intended) years....it will be increased this year, along with all qualifyers getting expenses paid to the O
Gear and all?
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on December 07, 2010, 12:02:57 PM
Ok was skimming the new Flex and saw the placement earnings, what's wrong with this picture

202

1st place $10K
2nd         $4K
3rd          $3K
4th          $2K
5th          $1K

But all the Women's events, Figure, Fitness and Ms O

1st - $28K
2nd - $14K
3rd - $8k
4th - $5K
5th - $3k

WHat's wrong with this picture?

That's equality of today.
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: Aaron Singerman on December 07, 2010, 12:09:39 PM
Nothing is wrong with it, other than the fact that the 202 has only been in existance for a few short (no pun intended) years....it will be increased this year, along with all qualifyers getting expenses paid to the O

That's good news!
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: mcluvin on December 07, 2010, 12:13:52 PM
Even better yet, there are 202 Pro Shows where the second place guy gets zilch ....$0.00

Some of these guys have been training 20-30 years and the Bikini gals rate next to them have never seen the inside of a Gold's Gym. ::)
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 07, 2010, 12:15:15 PM
Even better yet, there are 202 Pro Shows where the second place guy gets zilch ....$0.00

Some of these guys have been training 20-30 years and the Bikini gals rate next to them have never seen the inside of a Gold's Gym. ::)


then they should get a job....
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: Chick on December 07, 2010, 03:54:00 PM
Even better yet, there are 202 Pro Shows where the second place guy gets zilch ....$0.00

Some of these guys have been training 20-30 years and the Bikini gals rate next to them have never seen the inside of a Gold's Gym. ::)

Really?  Name them...I dont seem to recall any such shows
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 07, 2010, 05:11:34 PM

then they should get a job....
Yep sweat shop labor pays more. They should drop them both.
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: mcluvin on December 07, 2010, 08:54:37 PM
Really?  Name them...I dont seem to recall any such shows

Really.........you don't remember any shows where the second place 202 guy got nothing????   Here's the link to the 202 OLYMPIA!!!!!!

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/2010-olympia/2658-2010-olympia-202-showdown-and-mr-olympia-finals.html

1)Kevin English $10,000
2)David Henry........Zilch
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: chaos on December 07, 2010, 08:57:52 PM
Really.........you don't remember any shows where the second place 202 guy got nothing????   Here's the link to the 202 OLYMPIA!!!!!!

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/2010-olympia/2658-2010-olympia-202-showdown-and-mr-olympia-finals.html

1)Kevin English $10,000
2)David Henry........Zilch
Ouch!

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Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: Wiggs on December 07, 2010, 09:29:07 PM
Ouch!

Thread deleted.........3....... ..........2............. ..1.................

lol...pwned
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: Chick on December 08, 2010, 04:59:16 AM
Really.........you don't remember any shows where the second place 202 guy got nothing????   Here's the link to the 202 OLYMPIA!!!!!!

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/2010-olympia/2658-2010-olympia-202-showdown-and-mr-olympia-finals.html

1)Kevin English $10,000
2)David Henry........Zilch

Nothing better than fuckin morons trying to talk like they know whats going on....and using a reference from yet another moron claiming to know what HES talking about.

As I stated in the last post (which you obviously missed)...the purse for the 202 Olympia was $20K....10 K to the winner, the rest was divided up.  The reson why I didnt announce the amounts of the checks on stage was a simple one...

I DIDNT HAVE THE AMOUNTS LISTED IN FRONT OF ME. So, rather than get the amounts wrong, I didnt mention them.  All the final placers received their checkes, just like everyone else.

Dumber still, is the fucktard that wrote the article you read (and pasted) as gospel....completely clueless. I hope that individual doesnt consider themself any type of "journelist", as a simple phone call to myself or Robin Chang would have set the record straight...

Any more questions, son?
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: chaos on December 08, 2010, 05:19:07 AM
Early morning meltdown.
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: mcluvin on December 09, 2010, 07:24:53 AM

then they should get a job....

David Henry has a job.

 David Henry is currently a member of the United States Air Force, where he holds the rank of Technical Sergeant (E-6).
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: Chick on December 09, 2010, 08:15:19 AM
David Henry has a job.

 David Henry is currently a member of the United States Air Force, where he holds the rank of Technical Sergeant (E-6).

No comment on being proven wrong, I see?
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: Spike on December 09, 2010, 08:36:45 AM
Nothing is wrong with it, other than the fact that the 202 has only been in existance for a few short (no pun intended) years....it will be increased this year, along with all qualifyers getting expenses paid to the O


and what kinda return on the 'investment' you make to get big/shredded enuf to enter that contest


hahaha
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: Chick on December 09, 2010, 08:39:58 AM

and what kinda return on the 'investment' you make to get big/shredded enuf to enter that contest


hahaha


For many, it can be quite a good investment, as many of the competitors have contracts and have bonus payouts based on placing....some match dollar for dollar. For others, its a chance to move up the ladder and put themselves in position for the bigger paydays.

For those who dont try, not much to be gained, right?
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on December 09, 2010, 09:03:15 AM
For many, it can be quite a good investment, as many of the competitors have contracts and have bonus payouts based on placing....some match dollar for dollar. For others, its a chance to move up the ladder and put themselves in position for the bigger paydays.

For those who dont try, not much to be gained, right?

What is the minimum pay for a pro bodybuilder? Like the worst case scenario. Is it 0$/year?
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: mcluvin on December 09, 2010, 10:30:38 AM
No comment on being proven wrong, I see?

As a fan and supporter of bodybuilding I only have what is announced at the contest and the posted results to go by. Apparently you have the inside scoop on placement payouts that the rest of us aren't worthy of seeing. I appreciate the fact that you cleared it up and that some sort of cash disbursement was made to other competitors. Is it a secret what they were paid, because I have yet to see it posted anywhere? Did 2nd place get more than 6th or was it a general $1000. to everyone else? Was it changed at the last minute because there was no placement monetary announcement BEFORE the 202 Olympia got under way? Once again, I'll post the results and cash payouts as they appear on MD. If someone sends MD the payout for the competitors from 2nd place on down I'm sure they will correct the page.


******************************************************************************
2010 Olympia 202 Showdown and Mr. Olympia Finals

202 Showdown
A little more respect next time, please!
Even if I didn’t have a good friend competing in this event, I would still be disgusted at the treatment the 202 men received. If it isn’t bad enough that every other event this weekend except them gets the Olympia title in its name, further indignities were heaped on tonight. Some of you will be outraged to hear the following, others will think I am making this up. All 22 Mr. Olympia competitors performed their posing routines at the start of the night show. How many 202 Showdown competitors posed tonight? None! Not the top five, the top three, or even the winner. But wait, it gets worse.

 

I had just watched all the top six women of the Figure Olympia receive checks. The winner, Erin Stern, pocketed 28 thousand dollars. Only the winner of the 202 Showdown got a check, and that was for ten grand. The others left the stage without a nickel. Really.

Thanks for letting me vent.

English makes it two in a row
Despite very tough competition from David Henry, Kevin English did manage to retain his title. The crowd was not pleased, as many seemed to feel David was the better man today. The rest of the results were pretty much in line with what I thought they would be, and few in the audience seemed to have a major problem with anything but the decision for first. All I can say is that if you don’t like the way the 202 men are being treated, we all need to let the IFBB know it and hopefully they will show these hard-working athletes more respect next year.

Final results:

1. Kevin English                                             $10,000

2. David Henry

3. Eduardo Correa

4. Jose Raymond

5. Jason Arntz

6. Jaroslav Horvath

 


Final results:

1. Jay Cutler                                                    $200,000

2. Phil Heath                                                   $100,000

3. Branch Warren                                             $75,000

4. Dexter Jackson                                            $50,000

5. Dennis Wolf                                                $ 40,000

6. Ronny Rockel                                             $ 30,000

7. Kai Greene                                                  $18,000

8. Victor Martinez                                           $ 17,000
9. Toney Freeman                                           $ 16,000

10. Hide Yamagishi                                        $14,000


 
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: Chick on December 09, 2010, 10:50:51 AM
As a fan and supporter of bodybuilding I only have what is announced at the contest and the posted results to go by. Apparently you have the inside scoop on placement payouts that the rest of us aren't worthy of seeing. I appreciate the fact that you cleared it up and that some sort of cash disbursement was made to other competitors. Is it a secret what they were paid, because I have yet to see it posted anywhere? Did 2nd place get more than 6th or was it a general $1000. to everyone else? Was it changed at the last minute because there was no placement monetary announcement BEFORE the 202 Olympia got under way? Once again, I'll post the results and cash payouts as they appear on MD. If someone sends MD the payout for the competitors from 2nd place on down I'm sure they will correct the page.


******************************************************************************
2010 Olympia 202 Showdown and Mr. Olympia Finals

202 Showdown
A little more respect next time, please!
Even if I didn’t have a good friend competing in this event, I would still be disgusted at the treatment the 202 men received. If it isn’t bad enough that every other event this weekend except them gets the Olympia title in its name, further indignities were heaped on tonight. Some of you will be outraged to hear the following, others will think I am making this up. All 22 Mr. Olympia competitors performed their posing routines at the start of the night show. How many 202 Showdown competitors posed tonight? None! Not the top five, the top three, or even the winner. But wait, it gets worse.

 

I had just watched all the top six women of the Figure Olympia receive checks. The winner, Erin Stern, pocketed 28 thousand dollars. Only the winner of the 202 Showdown got a check, and that was for ten grand. The others left the stage without a nickel. Really.

Thanks for letting me vent.

English makes it two in a row
Despite very tough competition from David Henry, Kevin English did manage to retain his title. The crowd was not pleased, as many seemed to feel David was the better man today. The rest of the results were pretty much in line with what I thought they would be, and few in the audience seemed to have a major problem with anything but the decision for first. All I can say is that if you don’t like the way the 202 men are being treated, we all need to let the IFBB know it and hopefully they will show these hard-working athletes more respect next year.

Final results:

1. Kevin English                                             $10,000

2. David Henry

3. Eduardo Correa

4. Jose Raymond

5. Jason Arntz

6. Jaroslav Horvath

 


Final results:

1. Jay Cutler                                                    $200,000

2. Phil Heath                                                   $100,000

3. Branch Warren                                             $75,000

4. Dexter Jackson                                            $50,000

5. Dennis Wolf                                                $ 40,000

6. Ronny Rockel                                             $ 30,000

7. Kai Greene                                                  $18,000

8. Victor Martinez                                           $ 17,000
9. Toney Freeman                                           $ 16,000

10. Hide Yamagishi                                        $14,000


 




Perhaps not believing evrything you read on the internet might be of help....worse....you have people right here that you could ASK for clarification, rather than make bold statements based on some fool writing a report, who is actually DUMBER for writing like he knew the facts as well.....
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: mcluvin on December 09, 2010, 10:53:19 AM
Here is a post from Ron Harris where he is even confused about last minute money being dispersed to the 202 guys.
 
   "A PM just informed me that there was prize money for 2nd-5th places in the 202.

If that's true, WHY was it that only Kevin was announced as receiving money and given a check on stage? Why were the other top 5 guys not awarded their prizes like EVERY other top 5-6 that weekend, the Mr. O, Ms. O, Figure, Fitness, and Bikini O???

I was also told the top 5 were given a choice between either doing their posing routines or doing the top 5 comparisons and 'voted' for the comparisons. Really? Why did they have to make that choice? The top 5 202-pound bodybuilders in the world have to be rushed lest they take up too much time?? "  

Followed up with this post:

September 29th, 2010 06:14 PM
"And apparently they were only informed about the additional prize money today. Perhaps some extra funds were freed up because people were outraged? "


Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: mcluvin on December 09, 2010, 10:55:33 AM



Perhaps not believing evrything you read on the internet might be of help....worse....you have people right here that you could ASK for clarification, rather than make bold statements based on some fool writing a report, who is actually DUMBER for writing like he knew the facts as well.....

I'm asking..........what were the remaining guys paid?
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: Chick on December 09, 2010, 01:00:58 PM
Here is a post from Ron Harris where he is even confused about last minute money being dispersed to the 202 guys.
 
   "A PM just informed me that there was prize money for 2nd-5th places in the 202.

If that's true, WHY was it that only Kevin was announced as receiving money and given a check on stage? Why were the other top 5 guys not awarded their prizes like EVERY other top 5-6 that weekend, the Mr. O, Ms. O, Figure, Fitness, and Bikini O???

I was also told the top 5 were given a choice between either doing their posing routines or doing the top 5 comparisons and 'voted' for the comparisons. Really? Why did they have to make that choice? The top 5 202-pound bodybuilders in the world have to be rushed lest they take up too much time?? "  

Followed up with this post:

September 29th, 2010 06:14 PM
"And apparently they were only informed about the additional prize money today. Perhaps some extra funds were freed up because people were outraged? "





There was no "last minute money" being dispensed.....he's as confused as you are.  There was $20K we allotted for the 202 from day one...Ron of all people should no better than to write (or assume) anything without making a few phone calls first.  I'm a little surprised at his ignorance, as he's always seemed to be a stand up guy....

As for the specific breakdown,  1st paid 10K, then it was probably along the lines of: 1-10K, 2-4K, 3-3K, 4-2K, 5-1K
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 09, 2010, 03:23:56 PM

There was no "last minute money" being dispensed.....he's as confused as you are.  There was $20K we allotted for the 202 from day one...Ron of all people should no better than to write (or assume) anything without making a few phone calls first.  I'm a little surprised at his ignorance, as he's always seemed to be a stand up guy....

As for the specific breakdown,  1st paid 10K, then it was probably along the lines of: 1-10K, 2-4K, 3-3K, 4-2K, 5-1K
Sounds like slave labor to me.
Title: Re: Olympia 202 vs Figure O
Post by: WillGrant on December 09, 2010, 08:58:24 PM
Bitches should be in the kitchen - taking the money from the man folk