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Israel In A Post-American Era
Written by: Patrick J Buchanan
In 1918, the United States proved militarily decisive in the defeat of the Kaiser’s Germany and emerged as first power on earth.
World War II, ending in 1945, produced two truly victorious nations, the Soviet Union of Joseph Stalin and the America of Harry Truman.
Out of the Cold War that lasted from Truman to the disintegration of the Soviet Empire and breakup of the Soviet Union at the end of Ronald Reagan’s term came a lone victor: the last superpower, the United States.
Who emerged triumphant from the post-Cold War era, 1991-2011?
Indisputably, it is China, whose 10-12 percent annual growth vaulted her past Italy, France, Britain, Germany and Japan to become the world’s second largest economy and America’s lone rival for first manufacturing power.
If we use a metric called “purchasing power parity,” China overtakes America in 2016. Says the International Monetary Fund, the American era is over.
Strategically, too, the United States seems in retreat, nowhere more so than in that region that was the focus of George W. Bush’s “global democratic revolution.” And no nation reflects more the relative loss of U.S. power and influence than does Israel, whose isolation is today unprecedented.
A decade ago, Turkey, a NATO ally of 50 years, was a quiet friend and partner to Israel. Today, the Palestinians in Gaza view the Turks as among their staunchest friends in the Middle East.
President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt scrupulously adhered to the terms of his predecessor’s peace treaty with Israel and maintained the western end of the Israeli blockade of Gaza.
Since he fell, the interim Egyptian regime has midwifed a unity government of Fatah and Hamas, moved to establish diplomatic relations with Tehran for the first time since the fall of the Shah and begun to lift the Gaza blockade. September’s elections are almost guaranteed to deliver to parliament a huge if not controlling bloc from the Muslim Brotherhood.
While the Brotherhood appears to be the strongest party in Egypt, it has held back from openly seeking the presidency or absolute power in the legislature. It appears to be playing a waiting game. After them, us.
Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian leader who had looked to President Obama to bring a halt to new Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem and preside over peace talks, appears to have given up on the Americans.
Though the beneficiary of hundreds of millions in U.S. aid, he has entered a coalition with his old enemy Hamas, and together — if they can stay together — they plan to seek recognition of an independent Palestine by vote of the U.N. General Assembly in September.
The likelihood is that the overwhelming majority, including many of America’s allies, will vote to recognize Palestine and seat it in the General Assembly, where it can make demands on Israel, backed by U.N. sanctions, to terminate its occupation and vacate its national territory.
The General Assembly resolution will set as the borders of Palestine those that existed between 1948 and 1967. But, today, beyond those borders live no fewer than 500,000 Israeli Jews.
While the United States vetoed a recent Security Council resolution condemning Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s continued expansion of settlements, we have no veto in the General Assembly. If Obama opposes the U.N. resolution, we and Israel will stand virtually alone.
Nor are these the only crises Israel confronts.
To Israel’s north is Hezbollah, which has become the dominant force in Lebanon. To the south is Gaza, dominated by Hamas, which has never accepted Israel’s existence. Israel has fought wars with both.
To the east is the West Bank, where the Palestinian Authority appears to have given up on U.S.-sponsored peace talks. Beyond lies Jordan, whose King Abdullah rules over millions of Palestinians, who is under pressure to take a tougher stand against Israel and who has no love for Bibi Netanyahu.
And what happened Sunday on the 63rd anniversary of Israel’s independence and the Palestinian “nakba,” or “catastrophe,” where 700,000 fled or were driven into exile, is perhaps the most ominous portent of all.
Palestinian protesters approached the fence separating Lebanon and Israel and climbed the fence on the Israeli-occupied Golan heights to come and reclaim Palestinian lands. Fifteen to 20 were shot to death and scores were wounded by Israeli troops.
Though the White House backed Israel, across Europe what Israel did to these protesters seemed exactly what the king of Bahrain and the president of Yemen had done to theirs.
Given the coordination of the Palestinian actions, we may be on the verge either of a Facebook revolution or a “third intifada,” an uprising by Palestinians in Israel, the occupied territories, and Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Egypt, where hundreds of thousands of descendants of the original exiles still live.
Such an uprising would divert the attention of Arab peoples from the failures of their own regimes and isolate Israel and her principal — indeed, only — ally, the United States, as they have never been before in the Arab world.
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What does the average American get out of the Israeli relationship?
They are given billions, support for Israel was a major motivator for 9/11 and will be for future attacks, it's only America that stands by Israel.
Jewish influence in the political arena in America is obvious, the senators that are Jewish themselves and the big donors that exist for both parties, the sizable Jewish population in Florida, which is a key state in Presidential elections and one of the biggest factors of course, the evangelical Christians, who should hopefully all be dead soon with the rapture.
You get some dumb fucks going on about having to be seen to be tough on the Muslims but the average American gets nothing out of the relationship other than making itself a terrorist target.
Hope this all helps.
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What does the average American get out of the Israeli relationship?
They are given billions, support for Israel was a major motivator for 9/11 and will be for future attacks, it's only America that stands by Israel.
Jewish influence in the political arena in America is obvious, the senators that are Jewish themselves and the big donors that exist for both parties, the sizable Jewish population in Florida, which is a key state in Presidential elections and one of the biggest factors of course, the evangelical Christians, who should hopefully all be dead soon with the rapture.
You get some dumb fucks going on about having to be seen to be tough on the Muslims but the average American gets nothing out of the relationship other than making itself a terrorist target.
Hope this all helps.
What does the Average American get out of American foreign policy in general, fighting wars ever since WW2? Not much and less than that.
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Jews/Israelis = civilized people
Muslims/Arabs = savages
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Jews/Israelis = civilized people
Muslims/Arabs = savages
Exactly - it will be a long battle but someday the savages will be driven into the sea.
Kill/Supress them all or pack your bags and isolate the region and let them tear apart each other. I would opt for number two, but the unluckily western world involved itself too much in this matter.
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Exactly - it will be a long battle but someday the savages will be driven into the sea.
Kill/Supress them all or pack your bags and isolate the region and let them tear apart each other. I would opt for number two, but the unluckily western world involved itself too much in this matter.
It truly scares me the extent to which the world sympathizes with these cave dwelling stone chuckers.
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Palestinians have 24 Arab states that were all created about the same time. Israel has none. In 1967 the total length of Israel was only 9 miles....and now the Palestinians want more even though Israel kicked their ass in war. Anyone who is for a Palestinian occupation is not only a terrorist sympathizer but a traitor. Whats the penalty for treason again? Mr. Obama?
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israel is america,, christians are jews...this is as simple as that,,thats why the 2 are so close,,jesus of nazareth is jew,,his mom is jew ...and ....his dada is ummm
god
who chose the jews to be his people,, why? because jesus is jew!
americana and isreal are one in the same,,practicaly the 51 state of americana,,any isreal citizen can get green card and do get green card in americana in record time,, citizenship too
gh15 approved
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It truly scares me the extent to which the world sympathizes with these cave dwelling stone chuckers.
Nobody sympathizes with them - folks are shitting themselves and try to keep it nice in case shit hits the fan. The general public hates them.
Right wingers seize the moment and are now in a boat with Israel against the müsleems. My vote goes to them though it's a bad solution.
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Nobody sympathizes with them - folks are shitting themselves and try to keep it nice in case shit hits the fan. The general hates them.
Right wingers seize the moment and are now in a boat with Israel against the müsleems. My vote goes to them though it's a bad solution.
Ich stimme dir zu, sofern ich der Meinung bin, dass der Westen sich gut taete, sich aus den dortigen Angelegenheiten herauszuhalten.
Alle westlichen Laender, allen voran, die USA, haben binnenlaendische Probleme zu Hauf, und brauchen sich deswegen in solche auslaendischen Anliegen gar nicht einzumischen.
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Nobody sympathizes with them - folks are shitting themselves and try to keep it nice in case shit hits the fan. The general public hates them.
Right wingers seize the moment and are now in a boat with Israel against the müsleems. My vote goes to them though it's a bad solution.
And yet by the time this thread would go five pages, someone will get on here and spin the history to say that Israel has somehow victimized the palestinians.
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israel is america,, christians are jews...this is as simple as that,,thats why the 2 are so close,,jesus of nazareth is jew,,his mom is jew ...and ....his dada is ummm
god
who chose the jews to be his people,, why? because jesus is jew!
americana and isreal are one in the same,,practicaly the 51 state of americana,,any isreal citizen can get green card and do get green card in americana in record time,, citizenship too
gh15 approved
QFT. Plain and simple.
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It truly scares me the extent to which the world sympathizes with these cave dwelling stone chuckers.
Yes its amazing how the rest of the world is in the corner of the person throwing the rock at advanced military hardware.
Truly baffling ::)
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And the problem with Israeli's getting green cards is what? You won't find many jews scrubbing shithouses...they might be fixing your heart or giving your wife a new set of tits. They're the kind of immigrants we need.
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Ich stimme dir zu, sofern ich der Meinung bin, dass der Westen sich gut taete, sich aus den dortigen Angelegenheiten herauszuhalten.
Alle westlichen Laender, allen voran, die USA, haben binnenlaendische Probleme zu Hauf, und brauchen sich deswegen in solche auslaendischen Anliegen gar nicht einzumischen.
100% richtig - aber "unsre" Deppen wollen halt Land gewinnen - auf Kosten unsrer Gesellschaft.
USA erfindet 1001 Vorwand um irgendwo einzugreifen, Basen zu errichten und einen neuen Standort sein eigen zu nennen - nur geht das net so wie die sichs erwarten.
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What does the average American get out of the Israeli relationship?
They are given billions, support for Israel was a major motivator for 9/11 and will be for future attacks, it's only America that stands by Israel.
Jewish influence in the political arena in America is obvious, the senators that are Jewish themselves and the big donors that exist for both parties, the sizable Jewish population in Florida, which is a key state in Presidential elections and one of the biggest factors of course, the evangelical Christians, who should hopefully all be dead soon with the rapture.
You get some dumb fucks going on about having to be seen to be tough on the Muslims but the average American gets nothing out of the relationship other than making itself a terrorist target.
Hope this all helps.
spot on post!
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israel is america,, christians are jews...this is as simple as that,,thats why the 2 are so close,,jesus of nazareth is jew,,his mom is jew ...and ....his dada is ummm
god
who chose the jews to be his people,, why? because jesus is jew!
americana and isreal are one in the same,,practicaly the 51 state of americana,,any isreal citizen can get green card and do get green card in americana in record time,, citizenship too
gh15 approved
gh15 you are so wrong, any christian should be ashamed to be labeled a jew as well, a jew is something you cannot rid yourself of, please do not slander christians like that again. Israel is a welfare state the US supports. It always has been and will be until we cut them off, then they will deteriorate into nothing.
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gh15, basing you post on bible stories gives no credibility to your sayings. The bible is not fact, it is just a book with stories in it.
If people understood the jews where hated across Europe for a reason, many criminal activities leading to a diaspora of their population over the world. Then germany came along and wanted to finish the job, then america and europe basically saved them from becoming ash, then gave them a state and called it Israel, they didn't earn it, they didn't do anything for it, it is a pure pity state, and welfare state that US supports.
It's sad when the media is controlled by them and they have weaseled their ways into american entertainment, so they can brainwash the population into thinking how they would like to be perceived, the victims, it's always they are the victims. So many people are afraid to speak the truth or they would lose their job to the jewish ceo that has gotten in thru zionism, the time will come all, the time will come, Obama is just starting to fix the problem.
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gh15 you are so wrong, any christian should be ashamed to be labeled a jew as well, a jew is something you cannot rid yourself of, please do not slander christians like that again. Israel is a welfare state the US supports. It always has been and will be until we cut them off, then they will deteriorate into nothing.
Read this and educate yourself....for once then pass it on to Benny, he's just as uneducated.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/roots_of_US-Israel.html
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Read this and educate yourself....for once then pass it on to Benny, he's just as uneducated.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/roots_of_US-Israel.html
sorry I don't trust clicking on a link that is biased already by the name and second will probably have virus to steal my credit card data being that it is jewish site. copy and paste text.
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gh15 you are so wrong, any christian should be ashamed to be labeled a jew as well, a jew is something you cannot rid yourself of, please do not slander christians like that again. Israel is a welfare state the US supports. It always has been and will be until we cut them off, then they will deteriorate into nothing.
Israel a welfare state... bro the Jews run the show all over the world plain and simple. Israel will never deteriorate into nothing. Its the most conquered land in all of history. the most wanted land by many nations and at the end of the day the Jews own it against unimaginable odds. You're right Christians aren't jews but the old testament and Jesus were Jewish, a big part of Christianity
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Today, the United States and Israel are the closest of friends and allies. During more than four decades of state-building, Israelis have looked to the United States for inspiration, financial and military assistance, and diplomatic support. Americans, in turn, have viewed Israel with a special appreciation for its successful effort to follow the Western democratic tradition, its remarkable economic development, and its determined struggle against its uncompromising enemies.
This mutual admiration is hardly a recent phenomenon. The profound influence of Jewish tradition on the Founding Fathers can be seen in the American Constitution. Such influence should come as no surprise given John Adams' view expressed in a letter to Thomas Jefferson: "I will insist that the Hebrews have done more to civilize man than any other nation."
According to Woodrow Wilson, the ancient Jewish nation provided a model for the American colonists:
Recalling the previous experiences of the colonists in applying the Mosaic Code to the order of their internal life, it is not to be wondered at that the various passages in the Bible that serve to undermine royal authority, stripping the Crown of its cloak of divinity, held up before the pioneer Americans the Hebrew Commonwealth as a model government. In the spirit and essence of our Constitution, the influence of the Hebrew Commonwealth was paramount in that it was not only the highest authority for the principle, "that rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God," but also because it was in itself a divine precedent for a pure democracy, as distinguished from monarchy, aristocracy or any other form of government.
Jews also contributed directly to the revolution. President Calvin Coolidge paid tribute to their role in the War of Independence:
The Jews themselves, of whom a considerable number were already scattered throughout the colonies, were true to the teachings of their prophets. The Jewish faith is predominantly the faith of liberty.
One original design for the official Seal for the United States submitted by Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and John Adams depicted the Israelites crossing the Red Sea with Pharaoh in pursuit and Moses standing on the other side. The motto was to have been: "Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God." Another seal was chosen, but the Liberty Bell does bear an inscription from the Old Testament: "And Proclaim Freedom Throughout The Land Unto All the Inhabitants Thereof" (Leviticus 25:10).
Although it took 2,000 years to resurrect Hebrew as a spoken language in the early twentieth century in Palestine, Hebrew was a prerequisite for early American scholars. Many universities required it in their curriculum. Hebrew was compulsory at Harvard until 1787. To this day, Yale's insignia has the words Urim V'Thummim (oracle learning).
America's Support for Zionism
American support for the age-old aspirations of the Jewish people to return to their homeland dates from the Colonial period when John Adams wrote: "I really wish the Jews again in Judea an independent nation for, as I believe, the most enlightened men of it have participated in the amelioration of the philosophy of the age." John Quincy Adams wrote to Major Mordecai Manuel Noah that he believed in the "rebuilding of Judea as an independent nation."
Not long after the Emancipation Proclamation, President Abraham Lincoln met a Canadian Christian Zionist, Henry Wentworth Monk, who expressed hope that Jews who were suffering oppression in Russia and Turkey be emancipated "by restoring them to their national home in Palestine." Lincoln said this was "a noble dream and one shared by many Americans." The President said his chiropodist was a Jew who "has so many times ‘put me upon my feet’ that I would have no objection to giving his countrymen ‘a leg up.’"
In 1883, Emma Lazarus, the poet whose words are inscribed on the Statue of Liberty, wrote that Palestine should be as "a Home for the Homeless, a Goal for the Wanderer and an Asylum for the persecuted and a nation of the denationalized."
In 1891, pogroms incited by Czar Alexander III provoked an outcry by many prominent Americans, including the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and Speaker of the House. Rev. William E. Blackstone and Cardinal Gibbons presented a petition signed by those who were concerned about the fate of the Jews in Russia to President Benjamin Harrison and Secretary of State James Blaine. They called for the first international conference "to consider the Israelite claim to Palestine as their ancient home, and to promote in any other just and proper way the alleviation of their suffering condition."
Why not give Palestine back to the Jews again? According to God's distribution of nations, it is their home—an inalienable possession from which they were expelled by force. Under their cultivation was a remarkable fruitful land, sustaining millions of Israelites, who industrially tilled its hillsides and valleys. They were agriculturists and producers...the center of civilization and religion.
We believe this is an appropriate time for all nations, and especially the Christian nations of Europe, to show kindness to Israel...let us now restore to them the land of which they were so cruelly despoiled by our Roman ancestors.
The signatories' idea preceded the first World Zionist Congress that adopted the program to establish a Jewish homeland in Palestine by six years.
Endorsing The Balfour Declaration
In 1917, Lord Balfour sent a letter to Lord Rothschild, president of the British Zionist Federation, stating that the British Government would facilitate the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine. President Wilson expressed his support for the Balfour Declaration when he stated on March 3, 1919:
The allied nations with the fullest concurrence of our government and people are agreed that in Palestine shall be laid the foundations of a Jewish Commonwealth.
After Wilson left office, his successors expressed similar support for the Zionist enterprise. "It is impossible for one who has studied at all the services of the Hebrew people to avoid the faith that they will one day be restored to their historic national home and there enter on a new and yet greater phase of their contribution to the advance of humanity," said President Warren Harding.
Calvin Coolidge expressed his "sympathy with the deep and intense longing which finds such fine expression in the Jewish National Homeland in Palestine."
"Palestine which, desolate for centuries, is now renewing its youth and vitality through enthusiasm, hard work, and self-sacrifice of the Jewish pioneers who toil there in a spirit of peace and social justice," observed Herbert Hoover.
Congress was no less sympathetic to the Zionist objective. One can look back to the joint Congressional resolutions of 1922 and 1944 that unanimously passed an endorsement of the Balfour Declaration. The House Foreign Affairs Committee stated in 1922:
The Jews of America are profoundly interested in establishing a National Home in the ancient land for their race. Indeed, this is the ideal of the Jewish people, everywhere, for, despite their dispersion, Palestine has been the object of their veneration since they were expelled by the Romans. For generations they have prayed for the return to Zion. During the past century this prayer has assumed practical form.
Legislatures in 33 states, representing 85 percent of the population, also adopted resolutions favoring the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine. Governors of 37 states, 54 United States senators, and 250 congressmen signed petitions to the President.
The Campaign for Partition
In early 1947, the British, who then administered a League of Nations mandate for Palestine, decided to bring the question of how to resolve the dispute between Arabs and Jews to the United Nations. The General Assembly decided to set up the United Nations Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP) to investigate the cause of the conflict in Palestine, and, if possible, devise a solution.
The UNSCOP, composed of representatives from 11 nations, visited Palestine and found the Jewish community very responsive to its inquiries. The Arabs in Palestine greeted the UNSCOP with hostility and refused to cooperate. The Arab Higher Committee boycotted the Commission but demanded that the UN immediately grant Palestine its independence. As one author observed, the contrasting attitudes of Jews and Arabs toward the UNSCOP "could not fail to give the impression that the Jews were imbued with the sense of right and were prepared to plead their case before any unbiased tribunal, while the Arabs felt unsure of the justice of their cause, or were afraid to bow to the judgement of the nations."
One UNSCOP aide was particularly influential, an American named Ralph Bunche. Later Bunche would play a key role in negotiating armistice agreements between Israel and its neighbors following the War of Independence. In 1947, Bunche set up a meeting between two members of the UNSCOP and Menachem Begin, the leader of the Irgun Jewish underground. As he was leaving Begin's hideout, Bunche told the future Israeli Prime Minister: "I can understand you. I am also a member of a persecuted minority." Richard Crossman of Britain asked Bunche if his exposure to the Jews had made him anti-Semitic "yet." Bunche answered: "That would be impossible....I know the flavor of racial prejudice and racial persecution. A wise Negro can never be an anti-Semite."
The majority of the UNSCOP concluded after its investigation that the question of ownership or right to Palestine was an insoluble antinomy. Rather than try to solve it, they chose the logical alternative of partition, in which both Jews and Arabs would be given sovereignty in their own separate state.
The United States endorsed the majority report and called on the General Assembly to approve partition. Some dispute exists among scholars as to how vigorously the Truman Administration lobbied for the resolution. Nevertheless, ample evidence exists to indicate that U.S. influence played a critical role in securing the adoption of the partition resolution.
President Truman with David Ben-Gurion and Abba Eban
Less than six months later, Israel declared its independence and the United States was the first nation to grant de facto recognition to the new Jewish State—11 minutes after the proclamation. "I had faith in Israel before it was established, I have faith in it now," Truman said May 26, 1952. "I believe it has a glorious future before it—not just another sovereign nation, but as an embodiment of the great ideals of our civilization."
A Historical Commitment to Israel
The recognition of shared values has been a consistent theme in statements by American Presidents ever since Truman. John Kennedy, for example, declared: "This nation, from the time of President Woodrow Wilson, has established and continued a tradition of friendship with Israel because we are committed to all free societies that seek a path to peace and honor individual right. In the prophetic spirit of Zionism all free men today look to a better world and in the experience of Zionism we know that it takes courage and perseverance and dedication to achieve it."
"The United States and Israel share many common objectives...chief of which is the building of a better world in which every nation can develop its resources and develop them in freedom and peace," said Lyndon Johnson.
The roots of Johnson's feelings, like those of many other Americans came from the Bible. As he explained in a speech before B'nai B'rith: "Most if not all of you have very deep ties with the land and with the people of Israel, as I do, for my Christian faith sprang from yours." The President explained that "the Bible stories are woven into my childhood memories as the gallant struggle of modern Jews to be free of persecution is also woven into our souls."
Richard Nixon asserted that the United States stands by its friends and that "Israel is one of its friends." His successor, Gerald Ford, reaffirmed his "commitment to the security and future of Israel is based upon basic morality as well as enlightened self-interest. Our role in supporting Israel honors our own heritage."
"The United States," Jimmy Carter said, "has a warm and a unique relationship of friendship with Israel that is morally right. It is compatible with our deepest religious convictions, and it is right in terms of America's own strategic interests. We are committed to Israel's security, prosperity, and future as a land that has so much to offer the world."
Ronald Reagan was the first President to state explicitly that Israel was a strategic asset to the United States, a belief he expressed even before he was elected: "Only by full appreciation of the critical role the State of Israel plays in our strategic calculus can we build the foundation for thwarting Moscow's designs on territories and resources vital to our security and our national well-being." But Reagan also understood this alliance sprang from shared values: "Since the rebirth of the State of Israel, there has been an ironclad bond between that democracy and this one."
Shortly after taking office, George Bush said: "The friendship, the alliance between the United States and Israel is strong and solid, built upon a foundation of shared democratic values, of shared history and heritage, that sustains the life of our two countries. The emotional bond of our people transcends politics. Our strategic cooperation—and I renew today our determination that that go forward—is a source of mutual security. And the United States’ commitment to the security of Israel remains unshakeable. We may differ over some policies from time to time, individual policies, but never over the principle."
President Bill Clinton has taken the relationship to another level during his administration. "Our relationship would never vary from its allegiance to the shared values, the shared religious heritage, the shared democratic politics which have made the relationship between the United States and Israel a special—even on occasion a wonderful—relationship."
The Jewish population in the United States is less than six million; therefore, the political activity of Jews who view strengthening U.S.-Israel relations to be in the national interest alone cannot explain the depth of the friendship that exists. Fewer than 3 percent of the population could hardly have such a dramatic influence on American foreign policy. The U.S.-Israel alliance is rooted in shared values.
If one were forced to reduce the explanation for the unique relationship between the United States and Israel to one sentence, it was probably best expressed by Lyndon Johnson. When Soviet Premier Aleksei Kosygin asked Johnson why the United States supports Israel when there are 80 million Arabs and only three million Israelis, the President replied simply: "Because it is right."
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What exactly is that wall of text suppose to convince me of? That Israel was created by the US generally, US is only reason it has survived, welfare state and given weapons free, what else? The jews in the bible were told by jesus they are suppose to be a dispersed people, spread over the world, not huddled up in one place, supported by a external military and free weapons by another nation. Israel is going against what jesus wanted for them, if you believe the bible.
Israel a welfare state... bro the Jews run the show all over the world plain and simple. Israel will never deteriorate into nothing. Its the most conquered land in all of history. the most wanted land by many nations and at the end of the day the Jews own it against unimaginable odds. You're right Christians aren't jews but the old testament and Jesus were Jewish, a big part of Christianity
The jews don't run shit, they use money given to them by US and use weapons given to them by US to kill innocent Palestinians who are just trying to get back land stolen from them by the Israeli's. How can you not see this is beyond me. I will give you this, the jews have wiggled their way into entertainment industries and others to project an image about themselves that is favorable, because they know the truth about them would lead to the very thing they are scared of the most, why, because they are guilty of everything they get accused of for the most part.
Yeah they really put up a fight for it, Germany handed them their ass, then out of pity the US and allies created Israel, and gave it to them to go huddle in so they wouldn't be annihilated.
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Great info coach but you ruined the thread....ain't nobody going to read that :-\
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What exactly is that wall of text suppose to convince me of? That Israel was created by the US generally, US is only reason it has survived, welfare state and given weapons free, what else? The jews in the bible were told by jesus they are suppose to be a dispersed people, spread over the world, not huddled up in one place, supported by a external military and free weapons by another nation. Israel is going against what jesus wanted for them, if you believe the bible.
The jews don't run shit, they use money given to them by US and use weapons given to them by US to kill innocent Palestinians who are just trying to get back land stolen from them by the Israeli's. How can you not see this is beyond me. I will give you this, the jews have wiggled their way into entertainment industries and others to project an image about themselves that is favorable, because they know the truth about them would lead to the very thing they are scared of the most, why, because they are guilty of everything they get accused of for the most part.
Yeah they really put up a fight for it, Germany handed them their ass, then out of pity the US and allies created Israel, and gave it to them to go huddle in so they wouldn't be annihilated.
You clearly don't know your history. Israel owned the land first in the days of King Solomon. The majority of world banks are run by Jewish People. Rothschild's and Rockefeller's are Jewish and control nearly half of the worlds currency. 90% of the people who attend the Goldberg's meetings are Jews. The British royal family is Jewish.The most powerful people on the planet are Jews, how you can't see this is beyond me
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good job for obama standing up to the israeli terrorists...few people realize what nerve it took to go up there and suggest anything other than the usual complete pandering to their every whim.
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lol..."goldberg meetings" I meant Bildeberg meetings, spellcheck,..my bad ;D
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You clearly don't know your history. Israel owned the land first in the days of King Solomon. The majority of world banks are run by Jewish People. Rothschild's and Rockefeller's are Jewish and control nearly half of the worlds currency. 90% of the people who attend the Goldberg's meetings are Jews. The British royal family is Jewish.The most powerful people on the planet are Jews, how you can't see this is beyond me
LOL no they are not. Yes jews like money and have aligned themselves with banks and entertainment. They were the first middle men. Most of your post is not true, and just a jewish point of view, which is false statements and blatant lies. The Chinese premier, president whatever you want to call him is not jewish, the pm of russia is not jewish, barack obama is not jewish, ok I just named 3 of the worlds super powers leaders, non of them jewish.
I can name bernie maddoff though, and that IMF cheif off the top of my head, two very in the news jewish criminals. Most jews who have gained power and money have done it through illegal means, the laws catches up with a few of them, like maddoff and that scum imf cheif.
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Arent the Jews are the chosen people?
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LOL no they are not. Yes jews like money and have aligned themselves with banks and entertainment. They were the first middle men. Most of your post is not true, and just a jewish point of view, which is false statements and blatant lies. The Chinese premier, president whatever you want to call him is not jewish, the pm of russia is not jewish, barack obama is not jewish, ok I just named 3 of the worlds super powers leaders, non of them jewish.
I can name bernie maddoff though, and that IMF cheif off the top of my head, two very in the news jewish criminals. Most jews who have gained power and money have done it through illegal means, the laws catches up with a few of them, like maddoff and that scum imf cheif.
Please define what a Jew is precisely.
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LOL no they are not. Yes jews like money and have aligned themselves with banks and entertainment. They were the first middle men. Most of your post is not true, and just a jewish point of view, which is false statements and blatant lies. The Chinese premier, president whatever you want to call him is not jewish, the pm of russia is not jewish, barack obama is not jewish, ok I just named 3 of the worlds super powers leaders, non of them jewish.
I can name bernie maddoff though, and that IMF cheif off the top of my head, two very in the news jewish criminals. Most jews who have gained power and money have done it through illegal means, the laws catches up with a few of them, like maddoff and that scum imf cheif.
hahhahaha Barack is a Jew... sorry bro try again ;D
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hahhahaha Barack is a Jew... sorry bro try again ;D
no he is not, his mother was rumored to be, not proven, his father no, try again. Don't slander the President.
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hahhahaha Barack is a Jew... sorry bro try again ;D
Would you care to precisely define what a Jew is?
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Would you care to precisely define what a Jew is?
Actually your right there are several definitions. 1 pertaining to one of the 12 tribes lineage, bloodline. someone who's belief is Judaism and the inhabitants of Jerusalem
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You clearly don't know your history. Israel owned the land first in the days of King Solomon. The majority of world banks are run by Jewish People. Rothschild's and Rockefeller's are Jewish and control nearly half of the worlds currency. 90% of the people who attend the Goldberg's meetings are Jews. The British royal family is Jewish.The most powerful people on the planet are Jews, how you can't see this is beyond me
?....since when, our king had to abdicate as he was a nazi sympathizer!!
rest of the world is disgusted at isreal, only people that dont see it are usa and isreal its self......
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?....since when, our king had to abdicate as he was a nazi sympathizer!!
rest of the world is disgusted at isreal, only people that dont see it are usa and isreal its self......
good post, a lot of usa do see it, some are scared to speak out, the others aren't the populate sentiment is growing that we don't need to feed the bastard child anymore. No matter how much crazy pro israel stuff the right wing media spews out, growing number of american's have figured out the game.
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Largerthanlife obviously hates the Jews. Dunno why, though. IMO they've done a lot for science, technology, medicine, and the general advancement of mankind.... look at all their Nobel Prize winners. I rather like the Jews, actually. 8)
Even our fearless leader, Ron Avidan, is Jewish.
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Please define what a Jew is precisely.
a jew = your ancestor,, a jew is a pre historic christian ,, a jew = the chosen people ,,a jew = the winner ,,every single time
jew will always outsmart any others ,,the strongest muscle belong to the jew and it is
the brain
i been around many christian ,,muslim ,, indu and the rest,,none of them is even remotely close to the wizness and smartness of a jew,,even the most stupid jew put the smartest of the other relegion in their little pocket and eat them for dinner,,
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exampel close to home....
while you write on the site,,while you blub and blub ,,
the one who own it and take everythign to the bank... is the jew... ya ron avidan,,
many examples but this is close to home for you so i give it ,,
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a jew = your ancestor,, a jew is a pre historic christian ,, a jew = the chosen people ,,a jew = the winner ,,every single time
jew will always outsmart any others ,,the strongest muscle belong to the jew and it is the brain
i been around many christian ,,muslim ,, indu and the rest,,none of them is even remotely close to the wizness and smartness of a jew,,even the most stupid jew put the smartest of the other relegion in their little pocket and eat them for dinner,,
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This is bottom line
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By the US giving Israel money we actually can keep them in check somewhat. The president can threaten them with cutting off funding if they attack his terrorist friends. ;). Israel will whip those countries asses. They already did. It was called the six day war. They whipped three or four countries asses in six days lol. Israels military is bad ass. All with a country the size of LA.
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By the US giving Israel money we actually can keep them in check somewhat. The president can threaten them with cutting off funding if they attack his terrorist friends. ;). Israel will whip those countries asses. They already did. It was called the six day war. They whipped three or four countries asses in six days lol. Israels military is bad ass. All with a country the size of LA.
.Actually LA has more people ;D
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.Actually LA has more people ;D
vastly more.
Israel is about the size and population of the dallas-ft worth metroplex.
yet they are handed BILLIONS of american dollars a year, as well as given tons of cutting edge military equipment (which they use to suppress and wage aggression on all around them), for nothing.
millions of americans are dirt poor, our roads and infrastructure is laughable compared to most first world nations...but hey good thing we send Billions a year to the tiny country of Israel so they can continue to exist and create instability for the entire region ::)
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vastly more.
Israel is about the size and population of the dallas-ft worth metroplex.
yet they are handed BILLIONS of american dollars a year, as well as given tons of cutting edge military equipment (which they use to suppress and wage aggression on all around them), for nothing.
millions of americans are dirt poor, our roads and infrastructure is laughable compared to most first world nations...but hey good thing we send Billions a year to the tiny country of Israel so they can continue to exist and create instability for the entire region ::)
exactly
a jew = your ancestor,, a jew is a pre historic christian ,, a jew = the chosen people ,,a jew = the winner ,,every single time
jew will always outsmart any others ,,the strongest muscle belong to the jew and it is
the brain
i been around many christian ,,muslim ,, indu and the rest,,none of them is even remotely close to the wizness and smartness of a jew,,even the most stupid jew put the smartest of the other relegion in their little pocket and eat them for dinner,,
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jew is not a winner, they lost big time, hint world war 2 what where they doing up to then, just dispersed around globe, not winning at all. Then came the germans and bitch slapped them. Winning no, bailed out...yes.
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Please define what a Jew is precisely.
That's what I want to know.... Does Jewish ethnicity exist?
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That's what I want to know.... Does Jewish ethnicity exist?
The Jews , also known as the Jewish people, are a nation and ethnoreligious group originating in the Israelites or Hebrews of the Ancient Near East. The Jewish ethnicity, nationality, and religion are strongly interrelated, as Judaism is the traditional faith of the Jewish nation.
Yes it does.
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exactly
jew is not a winner, they lost big time, hint world war 2 what where they doing up to then, just dispersed around globe, not winning at all. Then came the germans and bitch slapped them. Winning no, bailed out...yes.
jew is alwys a winner,,you can never win against jew,,at the last the jew will always win ,,they arte the chosen people ,,for some reason t heir brain is just better,,dont know why but thats just the way it is ,,if you have a jew friend that is your best friend you are lucky fella,,they will always carry you through hard times,,also jew never show how much he really have,,they never do fancy wearing or anythign fancy but momnet he get into the bank ...a red carpet is rolled and he can make transactions out of this world,,, the jews are highly supportive of their kids financialy they support them until age 30 sometime and all through life,,help them get house,,help them with everything financialy ,,its hush hush ,,they also always devide everything equal between the kids,,always! ,,and if they give one kid more then they dont foeget it and then give his sister later on what they gave the other kid ,,jews never forget ,,you are lucky if your parents are jews ,,they will help you through life in every possible way ,, not all of them have the money but they all will help with as much money as they can can ,,
a jew father and mother will alwys be up your ass ,,but when you are covered financialy and you will be helped no matter what ,,thats just how jew blood works,,italians are very similar to a lesser degree,, but quite close
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exactly
jew is not a winner, they lost big time, hint world war 2 what where they doing up to then, just dispersed around globe, not winning at all. Then came the germans and bitch slapped them. Winning no, bailed out...yes.
Name one race that even comes close to jews in every aspect of life through the history of mankind. Most populer race by a mile. They are hated cause of this... the prima donna is always the most hated.
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Name one race that even comes close to jews in every aspect of life through the history of mankind. Most populer race by a mile. They are hated cause of this... the prima donna is always the most hated.
Northern Europeans
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Again - who is israel to make peace with? Hamas?
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jew is alwys a winner,,you can never win against jew,,at the last the jew will always win ,,they arte the chosen people ,,for some reason t heir brain is just better,,dont know why but thats just the way it is ,,if you have a jew friend that is your best friend you are lucky fella,,they will always carry you through hard times,,also jew never show how much he really have,,they never do fancy wearing or anythign fancy but momnet he get into the bank ...a red carpet is rolled and he can make transactions out of this world,,, the jews are highly supportive of their kids financialy they support them until age 30 sometime and all through life,,help them get house,,help them with everything financialy ,,its hush hush ,,they also always devide everything equal between the kids,,always! ,,and if they give one kid more then they dont foeget it and then give his sister later on what they gave the other kid ,,jews never forget ,,you are lucky if your parents are jews ,,they will help you through life in every possible way ,, not all of them have the money but they all will help with as much money as they can can ,,
a jew father and mother will alwys be up your ass ,,but when you are covered financialy and you will be helped no matter what ,,thats just how jew blood works,,italians are very similar to a lesser degree,, but quite close
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sorry but you don't know shit about jewish matters with upbringing, they are the biggest cheapskates you can find. Jew is the loser, again who bailed them out from extinction in ww2? They were just a pity people that is all, they were dispersed across globe until they got pity state of israel gifted to them. They are the outcasts and losers of society who live off american welfare.
you know your shit about steroids bodybuilding, but not this.
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Ask any waiter who are the worst tippers. Hint - its not jews.
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sorry but you don't know shit about jewish matters with upbringing, they are the biggest cheapskates you can find. Jew is the loser, again who bailed them out from extinction in ww2? They were just a pity people that is all, they were dispersed across globe until they got pity state of israel gifted to them. They are the outcasts and losers of society who live off american welfare.
you know your shit about steroids bodybuilding, but not this.
no ,,you are rasict! they are very good people ,,they are the chosen people ,,and they most likly own the buildgin complex you live in and you are again late with the rent,,its common thing that if you were not born jew you wish you were,,trust me many of us wish we were,,dont hate! hate will get you no where,,be honest with yourself and look around you ,,everythin EVERYTHING controled and rulled by jews,,every thing including the computer you are writing from ,,
the jews are the chosen people ,,god has chosen them and many do not like it,,for not to forget jesus which is jew decided to create his own relegion but after all he was jew...it is the OTHERRRR arab whoe hagar... who gave abraham the son ishmael ,,and that ishmael...HE WAS THE REAL OUTCAST and he shall named muslim and created the muslim relsgion ,, the cursed one was ishmael! and thats why the arabs walk around feeling cursed ,,thats why they cant accept jews to live in peace with them ,,not all but many ,,its because they are the sperm of the son of abraham ..a son he never acknoleged and was given to him by a desert prostitute from the sheep leaders of the times... called hagar.. she was not as beautiful as sarahthe jew...and she was different ...and thats how the muslim relegion was created,,alwsys was outcasts..
learn your history ,,and dont be a rasict,,the jews accepted peace with the arabs...its the loontaeeks among the arabs who dont accept the jews as part of this peace,,,
be real face the truth ,,dont be part of generation nothingness idiotizm ,, im surprized ron doesnt bann you ,,he probbaly will if you piss him off too much ,,this site is OWNED BY PROUD JEW !
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sorry but you don't know shit about jewish matters with upbringing, they are the biggest cheapskates you can find. Jew is the loser, again who bailed them out from extinction in ww2? They were just a pity people that is all, they were dispersed across globe until they got pity state of israel gifted to them. They are the outcasts and losers of society who live off american welfare.
you know your shit about steroids bodybuilding, but not this.
Seriously are you 12 years old. geez you know nothing of history. More people have died fighting for this land then all of world war 1 and world war 2 combined. This, what you call pity state is the most important piece of land the world has ever seen. Nations upon nations have fought for this land millions of time. The wars between Israel and palestine go back for 3000 years. Syria, Lebanon, Jordan used to attack Israel on a regular basis, Assyria took this land in 700BC, Babylonia took it over in 550 BC, Persia took it over in 450 BC, Alexander the great (Greek), took this territory over in 330 BC, The Romans took it in 60 BC.Since then Germania, Byzantium,Arabs, Asia minor, British, France, Syria, Turkey and countless others. The price each have paid to obtain this land has cost millions of millions of lives and still no one cares, no one gets up to move they still stay and die for this piece of land, no matter what the cost is. You know nothing if you don't know this
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Seriously are you 12 years old. geez you know nothing of history. More people have died fighting for this land then all of world war 1 and world war 2 combined. This, what you call pity state is the most important piece of land the world has ever seen. Nations upon nations have fought for this land millions of time. The wars between Israel and palestine go back for 3000 years. Syria, Lebanon, Jordan used to attack Israel on a regular basis, Assyria took this land in 700BC, Babylonia took it over in 550 BC, Persia took it over in 450 BC, Alexander the great (Greek), took this territory over in 330 BC, The Romans took it in 60 BC.Since then Germania, Byzantium,Arabs, Asia minor, British, France, Syria, Turkey and countless others. The price each have paid to obtain this land has cost millions of millions of lives and still no one cares, no one gets up to move they still stay and die for this piece of land, no matter what the cost is. You know nothing if you don't know this
Here we go again. The Jew haters out in full force. Nothing will satisfy you until they are all dead and the great Israel is transform into another Arab cesspool as they have done with the Sinai and Gaza.
Listen you filthy racist: Prior to 1967 there was no movement for a Palestinian homeland. In the Six-Day War, Israel captured Judea, Samaria and East Jerusalem. But they didn't capture these territories from Yasser Arafat. They captured them from Jordan's King Hussein. That's when all these Palestinians suddenly discovered their national identity after Israel won the war.
Sit down and play close attention: There is no such thing as Palestine. It is just a made up country. The first time the name was used was in 70 A.D. when the Romans committed genocide against the Jews, smashed the Temple and declared the land of Israel would be no more. From then on, the Romans promised, it would be known as Palestine. The name was derived from the Philistines, a Goliathian people conquered by the Jews centuries earlier. It was a way for the Romans to add insult to injury. They also tried to change the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina, but that had even less staying power.
Palestine has never existed -- before or since -- as an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to RESTORE at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their homeland.
There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass.
But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today. Greed. Pride. Envy. Covetousness. No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough.
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Oh, I forgot. What about the Islam's Holy Sites? There are NONE in Jerusalem. Huh? What? What about Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock? In fact, the Koran says nothing about Jerusalem. It mentions Mecca hundreds of times. It mentions Medina countless times. It never mentions Jerusalem. With good reason. There is no historical evidence to suggest Mohammed ever visited Jerusalem. And how many times is Jerusalem mentioned in the Torah? Hundreds! Jews can trace their roots in Jerusalem back to the days of Abraham.
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I've asked this question before on this board: What are the people of Israel suppose to do? They are surrounded by enemies that want to exterminate them. If they go back to the 1967 borders they cannot defend themselves against their enemies that attack them every day.
What are they suppose to do?
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Here we go again. The Jew haters out in full force. Nothing will satisfy you until they are all dead and the great Israel is transform into another Arab cesspool as they have done with the Sinai and Gaza.
Listen you filthy racist: Prior to 1967 there was no movement for a Palestinian homeland. In the Six-Day War, Israel captured Judea, Samaria and East Jerusalem. But they didn't capture these territories from Yasser Arafat. They captured them from Jordan's King Hussein. That's when all these Palestinians suddenly discovered their national identity after Israel won the war.
Sit down and play close attention: There is no such thing as Palestine. It is just a made up country. The first time the name was used was in 70 A.D. when the Romans committed genocide against the Jews, smashed the Temple and declared the land of Israel would be no more. From then on, the Romans promised, it would be known as Palestine. The name was derived from the Philistines, a Goliathian people conquered by the Jews centuries earlier. It was a way for the Romans to add insult to injury. They also tried to change the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina, but that had even less staying power.
Palestine has never existed -- before or since -- as an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to RESTORE at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their homeland.
There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass.
But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today. Greed. Pride. Envy. Covetousness. No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough.
I sure hope your comments weren't directed at me < I am saying exactly what you are saying and I am in fact defending the Jews go back to all my post. The point of my previous point is that the whole world has fought for this land at the end the jews( the rightful owners) attained it...servival of the fittest
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Ask any waiter who are the worst tippers. Hint - its not jews.
The black jews?
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Someone asked what we, the Americans, get out of support of Israel. We get pretty much nothing. They don't have any oil, natural resources, products that we desperately need from them. It would be so easy to join with the UN, the Europeans, the Arabs, and turn our backs against that great little country and their great, strong and courageous people. But we don't. We don't because it's the right thing to do. Cynics laugh because they don't believe that America is a force for good in this world. I so wish those who think that could live in an alternate world where there was never an America. Israel is the only civilized country in that region. There are Mosques where Arabs can practice their religion freely. Arabs enjoy more freedom in Israel than they would in any of the surrounding Arab countries. They can hold office and even are members of the Kenessit where they routinely heckle Netanyahu.
What happens to a Jew in an Arab country? They get up close and personal with a rope and a tree, or rocks, or a sword to sever their head. If you had to live in that region what country would you choose to live in? Jordan? Syria?
One of the reasons the Jewish people are the greatest people on this planet is that they are still here. No people have been more persecuted, reviled, murdered and exterminated throughout history than the Jewish people. But they have endured and will continue to endure. They are the chosen people.
I don't think that it is a coincidence that in the Bible God promised Abraham that those that curse him (the Jewish people) will be cursed and those that bless him will be blessed.
America has been the most fortunate and blessed country on this planet. The Arabs have been the most cursed.
I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.
Genesis 12:3
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I sure hope your comments weren't directed at me < I am saying exactly what you are saying and I am in fact defending the Jews go back to all my post. The point of my previous point is that the whole world has fought for this land at the end the jews( the rightful owners) attained it...servival of the fittest
Actually, I was. I misread your post and got you mixed up with that largerthanlife guy.
Sincere and humble apologies.
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Actually, I was. I misread your post.
Sincere and humble apologies.
no problem and yes I agree with your next post aswell
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no ,,you are rasict! they are very good people ,,they are the chosen people ,,and they most likly own the buildgin complex you live in and you are again late with the rent,,its common thing that if you were not born jew you wish you were,,trust me many of us wish we were,,dont hate! hate will get you no where,,be honest with yourself and look around you ,,everythin EVERYTHING controled and rulled by jews,,every thing including the computer you are writing from ,,
the jews are the chosen people ,,god has chosen them and many do not like it,,for not to forget jesus which is jew decided to create his own relegion but after all he was jew...it is the OTHERRRR arab whoe hagar... who gave abraham the son ishmael ,,and that ishmael...HE WAS THE REAL OUTCAST and he shall named muslim and created the muslim relsgion ,, the cursed one was ishmael! and thats why the arabs walk around feeling cursed ,,thats why they cant accept jews to live in peace with them ,,not all but many ,,its because they are the sperm of the son of abraham ..a son he never acknoleged and was given to him by a desert prostitute from the sheep leaders of the times... called hagar.. she was not as beautiful as sarahthe jew...and she was different ...and thats how the muslim relegion was created,,alwsys was outcasts..
learn your history ,,and dont be a rasict,,the jews accepted peace with the arabs...its the loontaeeks among the arabs who dont accept the jews as part of this peace,,,
be real face the truth ,,dont be part of generation nothingness idiotizm ,, im surprized ron doesnt bann you ,,he probbaly will if you piss him off too much ,,this site is OWNED BY PROUD JEW !
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not if you have ss bloodline
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One of the reasons the Jewish people are the greatest people on this planet is that they are still here.
What about the non jews? Are they inferior?
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no ,,you are rasict! they are very good people ,,they are the chosen people ,,and they most likly own the buildgin complex you live in and you are again late with the rent,,its common thing that if you were not born jew you wish you were,,trust me many of us wish we were,,dont hate! hate will get you no where,,be honest with yourself and look around you ,,everythin EVERYTHING controled and rulled by jews,,every thing including the computer you are writing from ,,
the jews are the chosen people ,,god has chosen them and many do not like it,,for not to forget jesus which is jew decided to create his own relegion but after all he was jew...it is the OTHERRRR arab whoe hagar... who gave abraham the son ishmael ,,and that ishmael...HE WAS THE REAL OUTCAST and he shall named muslim and created the muslim relsgion ,, the cursed one was ishmael! and thats why the arabs walk around feeling cursed ,,thats why they cant accept jews to live in peace with them ,,not all but many ,,its because they are the sperm of the son of abraham ..a son he never acknoleged and was given to him by a desert prostitute from the sheep leaders of the times... called hagar.. she was not as beautiful as sarahthe jew...and she was different ...and thats how the muslim relegion was created,,alwsys was outcasts..
learn your history ,,and dont be a rasict,,the jews accepted peace with the arabs...its the loontaeeks among the arabs who dont accept the jews as part of this peace,,,
be real face the truth ,,dont be part of generation nothingness idiotizm ,, im surprized ron doesnt bann you ,,he probbaly will if you piss him off too much ,,this site is OWNED BY PROUD JEW !
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no I'm not, I am just speaking the truth. I am surprised you didn't call me an anti semite, because that is what everybody is called who argues with a jew LOL. The jews are not gods chosen ppl there you go again reciting versus from the bible, a fiction book. Stop kissing their ass to get a little chump change. They are hated not for being jewish, but for their actions, throughout history.
Seriously are you 12 years old. geez you know nothing of history. More people have died fighting for this land then all of world war 1 and world war 2 combined. This, what you call pity state is the most important piece of land the world has ever seen. Nations upon nations have fought for this land millions of time. The wars between Israel and palestine go back for 3000 years. Syria, Lebanon, Jordan used to attack Israel on a regular basis, Assyria took this land in 700BC, Babylonia took it over in 550 BC, Persia took it over in 450 BC, Alexander the great (Greek), took this territory over in 330 BC, The Romans took it in 60 BC.Since then Germania, Byzantium,Arabs, Asia minor, British, France, Syria, Turkey and countless others. The price each have paid to obtain this land has cost millions of millions of lives and still no one cares, no one gets up to move they still stay and die for this piece of land, no matter what the cost is. You know nothing if you don't know this
Yes the land has been fought for and the jews didn't control it when israel was written on the map. It was a pure pity state. They are not enduring anything, they just commit crimes, then get punishment, like anybody would. You cannot take land from somebody the palestinians and give to to the jews because of a pity party, the slaves didn't get florida, no they endured and integrated with society like a normal person. But a jew complains and whines and constantly brings up past so called injustices which are just slaps to the face for criminal acts by the race in general. Do you hear black people still to this day constantly complain aww slavery slavery this that, NO! They are good people and got past it, the jew can't because he like to exploit and exaggerate the past to make money, sad people, terrible people, and not good people for this world.
The good news is though the jew can turn it around, they can give up the fake country of israel and give the land back to the palestinians and let them control it, give back the houses they stole, give back the property they stole, and live like normal human beings, it's hard for them to do though they are natural born criminals.
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jew is alwys a winner,,you can never win against jew,,at the last the jew will always win ,,they arte the chosen people ,,for some reason t heir brain is just better,,dont know why but thats just the way it is ,,if you have a jew friend that is your best friend you are lucky fella,,they will always carry you through hard times,,also jew never show how much he really have,,they never do fancy wearing or anythign fancy but momnet he get into the bank ...a red carpet is rolled and he can make transactions out of this world,,, the jews are highly supportive of their kids financialy they support them until age 30 sometime and all through life,,help them get house,,help them with everything financialy ,,its hush hush ,,they also always devide everything equal between the kids,,always! ,,and if they give one kid more then they dont foeget it and then give his sister later on what they gave the other kid ,,jews never forget ,,you are lucky if your parents are jews ,,they will help you through life in every possible way ,, not all of them have the money but they all will help with as much money as they can can ,,
a jew father and mother will alwys be up your ass ,,but when you are covered financialy and you will be helped no matter what ,,thats just how jew blood works,,italians are very similar to a lesser degree,, but quite close
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greeks do this too gh15 (in my experience) ;)
atleast in montreal the majority (if not ALL) greeks do ...
and most probably worldwide !
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Someone asked what we, the Americans, get out of support of Israel. We get pretty much nothing. They don't have any oil, natural resources, products that we desperately need from them. It would be so easy to join with the UN, the Europeans, the Arabs, and turn our backs against that great little country and their great, strong and courageous people. But we don't. We don't because it's the right thing to do. Cynics laugh because they don't believe that America is a force for good in this world. I so wish those who think that could live in an alternate world where there was never an America. Israel is the only civilized country in that region. There are Mosques where Arabs can practice their religion freely. Arabs enjoy more freedom in Israel than they would in any of the surrounding Arab countries. They can hold office and even are members of the Kenessit where they routinely heckle Netanyahu.
What happens to a Jew in an Arab country? They get up close and personal with a rope and a tree, or rocks, or a sword to sever their head. If you had to live in that region what country would you choose to live in? Jordan? Syria?
One of the reasons the Jewish people are the greatest people on this planet is that they are still here. No people have been more persecuted, reviled, murdered and exterminated throughout history than the Jewish people. But they have endured and will continue to endure. They are the chosen people.
1. You're wrong, they have those Dead Sea Bath Salts the little Jew kid sell at shopping malls..
2. So in essence you're comparing the Jews to cockroaches who have also apparently been here forever and survived everything from mustard gas to extreme radiation? not to mention Zyklon B!
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wasn't the bodybuilder Dennis Newman jewish?