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This is from a few yrs ago...still think Phil could take Ronnie?
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Phil looks like his little son there lol.
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few yrs ago...
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This is from a few yrs ago...still think Phil could take Ronnie?
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that's just retirement ronnie. i'm talking this ronnie.
i said i think phil could take ronnie in one shot like gunther did if ronnie BS his way into a contest like the GNC show.
outside of arms phil can't be much bigger than gus.
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Only one person said phil is better than Ronnie...that is DJ...we here on getbig are not saying that and i dont think DJ reads this board...who are you arguing against?
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Only one person said phil is better than Ronnie...that is DJ...we here on getbig are not saying that and i dont think DJ reads this board...who are you arguing against?
that bitch chepanzee.
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Only 2 person said phil is better than Ronnie...that is DJ and CHE...we here on getbig are not saying that and i dont think DJ reads this board...who are you arguing against?
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Really dude? Better than 98 Ronnie?
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This is from a few yrs ago...still think Phil could take Ronnie?
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Funny their around the same weight at their bests ( 245lbs ) but Ronnie 1998/2001 would demolish him
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4z9uF0INYu4/TdZacQW1e9I/AAAAAAAAACo/8BHozoNHqpg/s1600/ronnie-coleman-10%255B1%255D.jpg)
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Funny their around the same weight at their bests ( 245lbs ) but Ronnie 1998/2001 would demolish him
as far as stature, phil is no different than dex standing next to ronnie. every O ronnie won, he'd demolish phil's narrow ass. plenty of guys like cutler and ray showed up more cut than ronnie, so what! in an era where a back won the O, that narrow shit phil has wouldn't work against ronnie or even yates.
this whole comparision thing is BS.
ron delete this BS since you like deleting the nasser stuff.
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Only one person said phil is better than Ronnie...that is DJ...we here on getbig are not saying that and i dont think DJ reads this board...who are you arguing against?
Listen, I am a Phil fan, been accused of being blind when I said that Phil is the best of this gen. Got his first DVD, and I knew that from his first Flex cover, dude had Mr. O written all over him, unless he effed it up like Flex.
That being said, I disagree with DJ, Ronnie Coleman was dominate over Jay, Flex, Vic, Chris, Dex, Gunter (especially after the GNC), DJ, Nasser, Shawn...and he won 8 of them, he was dominate.
Phil is consistant, but a in shape Kai can beat Phil. Hell, Beyeke could beat Phil, and Shawn Rhoden (once he gets his act together could beat Phil. Brian Curry has a better structure...
I'm glad Phil won, as I always have thought he was better than Jay, but if Jay had Ronnie's back, Phil would never win...Jay with a detailed back like Ronnie's would be unstoppable. Period.
Now, we will see how far Phil will take this...Will he become a freak?
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Yeah buddy
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Listen, I am a Phil fan, been accused of being blind when I said that Phil is the best of this gen. Got his first DVD, and I knew that from his first Flex cover, dude had Mr. O written all over him, unless he effed it up like Flex.
That being said, I disagree with DJ, Ronnie Coleman was dominate over Jay, Flex, Vic, Chris, Dex, Gunter (especially after the GNC), DJ, Nasser, Shawn...and he won 8 of them, he was dominate.
Phil is consistant, but a in shape Kai can beat Phil. Hell, Beyeke could beat Phil, and Shawn Rhoden (once he gets his act together could beat Phil. Brian Curry has a better structure...
I'm glad Phil won, as I always have thought he was better than Jay, but if Jay had Ronnie's back, Phil would never win...Jay with a detailed back like Ronnie's would be unstoppable. Period.
Now, we will see how far Phil will take this...Will he become a freak?
Team Brandy Leaver
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Really dude? Better than 98 Ronnie?
Ronnie was a freak with some outstanding body parts but his structure was horrible, no calves ,thighs w/out separation /striations , huge but droopy chest, huge gut , horrible midsection/abs............etc
BTW this is bodybuilding ,everything else is garbage.
(http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gallery/data/1016/1Rory_Leidelmeyer_026.jpg)
(http://runkz.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/olympia.jpg)
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(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/ronnie-coleman.jpg)
(http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/attachments/bodybuilding/666d1266349093-ronnie-colemans-website-1178028153_coleman_1.jpeg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SyoA13Deq-I/AAAAAAAAEH8/k9RGimvfzlA/s400/2006-mr-olympia-prejudging-88-ronnie-coleman_20090831_1700688322.jpg)
(http://www.bbhomepage.com/bodybuilding/data/507/medium/Ronnie_Coleman_-_Dorso_Frontale.jpg)
Sheep meltdown in 3, 2, 1....................
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/-guy-in-ears.jpg)
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Listen, I am a Phil fan, been accused of being blind when I said that Phil is the best of this gen. Got his first DVD, and I knew that from his first Flex cover, dude had Mr. O written all over him, unless he effed it up like Flex.
That being said, I disagree with DJ, Ronnie Coleman was dominate over Jay, Flex, Vic, Chris, Dex, Gunter (especially after the GNC), DJ, Nasser, Shawn...and he won 8 of them, he was dominate.
Phil is consistant, but a in shape Kai can beat Phil. Hell, Beyeke could beat Phil, and Shawn Rhoden (once he gets his act together could beat Phil. Brian Curry has a better structure...
I'm glad Phil won, as I always have thought he was better than Jay, but if Jay had Ronnie's back, Phil would never win...Jay with a detailed back like Ronnie's would be unstoppable. Period.
Now, we will see how far Phil will take this...Will he become a freak?
good post.
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alotta monkeys down in florida, i see why i picked california. how's the banana plantation, chepanzee?
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I have to agree.. the Heavy weights are a freak of nature.... its no longer bodybuilding but who responds best to the aas, training and heavy lifting no longer apply, tho some pros like to lift heavy to sell videos
Ronnie was a freak with some outstanding body parts but his structure was horrible, no calves ,thighs w/out separation /striations , huge but droopy chest, huge gut , horrible midsection/abs............etc
BTW this is bodybuilding ,everything else is garbage.
(http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gallery/data/1016/1Rory_Leidelmeyer_026.jpg)
(http://runkz.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/olympia.jpg)
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(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/ronnie-coleman.jpg)
(http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/attachments/bodybuilding/666d1266349093-ronnie-colemans-website-1178028153_coleman_1.jpeg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SyoA13Deq-I/AAAAAAAAEH8/k9RGimvfzlA/s400/2006-mr-olympia-prejudging-88-ronnie-coleman_20090831_1700688322.jpg)
(http://www.bbhomepage.com/bodybuilding/data/507/medium/Ronnie_Coleman_-_Dorso_Frontale.jpg)
Sheep meltdown in 3, 2, 1....................
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/-guy-in-ears.jpg)
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I have to agree.. the Heavy weights are a freak of nature.... its no longer bodybuilding but who responds best to the aas, training and heavy lifting no longer apply, tho some pros like to lift heavy to sell videos
Thank you , Nails.
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Ronnie was a freak with some outstanding body parts but his structure was horrible, no calves ,thighs w/out separation /striations , huge but droopy chest, huge gut , horrible midsection/abs............etc
BTW this is bodybuilding ,everything else is garbage.
(http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gallery/data/1016/1Rory_Leidelmeyer_026.jpg)
(http://runkz.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/olympia.jpg)
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(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/ronnie-coleman.jpg)
(http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/attachments/bodybuilding/666d1266349093-ronnie-colemans-website-1178028153_coleman_1.jpeg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SyoA13Deq-I/AAAAAAAAEH8/k9RGimvfzlA/s400/2006-mr-olympia-prejudging-88-ronnie-coleman_20090831_1700688322.jpg)
(http://www.bbhomepage.com/bodybuilding/data/507/medium/Ronnie_Coleman_-_Dorso_Frontale.jpg)
Sheep meltdown in 3, 2, 1....................
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/-guy-in-ears.jpg)
Thats why I said 98 Ronnie. None of those pics are it.
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Ronnie was a freak with some outstanding body parts but his structure was horrible, no calves ,thighs w/out separation /striations , huge but droopy chest, huge gut , horrible midsection/abs............etc
BTW this is bodybuilding ,everything else is garbage.
(http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gallery/data/1016/1Rory_Leidelmeyer_026.jpg)
(http://runkz.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/olympia.jpg)
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(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/ronnie-coleman.jpg)
(http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/attachments/bodybuilding/666d1266349093-ronnie-colemans-website-
1178028153_coleman_1.jpeg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SyoA13Deq-I/AAAAAAAAEH8/k9RGimvfzlA/s400/2006-mr-olympia-prejudging-88-ronnie-
coleman_20090831_1700688322.jpg)
(http://www.bbhomepage.com/bodybuilding/data/507/medium/Ronnie_Coleman_-_Dorso_Frontale.jpg)
Sheep meltdown in 3, 2, 1...................
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/-guy-in-ears.jpg)
The inherent problem with Pro bbing is that one must get freakier and bigger to "win" or please the "Gods" (the powers that be)
Phil looked his best his rookie yr, Flex looked his best his rookie yr. Ronnie looked his best when he first won the O and in 99.
And when one wins the O, the next yr they have to step up the freak factor...Mark my words, this is possibly the last yr Phil will have his "aesthetics", he will gradually get freakier...his abs were never "ideal", and now they are kinda spreading apart---DJ style. His arms will get bigger and freakier, back will get thicker, legs as well. Traps will be thicker, chest thicker, delts as well...but, he will always be known for his showpiece arms (like Ronnie, like Flex, like Arnold).
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Thats why I said 98 Ronnie. None of those pics are it.
fuck chepanzee!
you realize it will be hard for phil to defend the O multiple times, based on his small stature. he's like a 5'9" dex
brain dopson puts kulco on ronnie shit.
evan at his height bits the bullet and sizes up.
your boy kai diets like you should be doing.
too many with better structure and size. he stays O for 5 yrs or longer because the IFBB/AMI wants him there.
he's just not that great. i dont see it
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Thats why I said 98 Ronnie. None of those pics are it.
Was his structure/shape different in 98 ???
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The inherent problem with Pro bbing is that one must get freakier and bigger to "win" or please the "Gods" (the powers that be)
Phil looked his best his rookie yr, Flex looked his best his rookie yr. Ronnie looked his best when he first won the O and in 99.
And when one wins the O, the next yr they have to step up the freak factor...Mark my words, this is possibly the last yr Phil will have his "aesthetics", he will gradually get freakier...his abs were never "ideal", and now they are kinda spreading apart---DJ style. His arms will get bigger and freakier, back will get thicker, legs as well. Traps will be thicker, chest thicker, delts as well...but, he will always be known for his showpiece arms (like Ronnie, like Flex, like Arnold).
That's exactly what's wrong with modern bodybuilding , it is a fucking joke .
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That's exactly what's wrong with modern bodybuilding , it is a fucking joke .
The inherent problem with modern bodybuilding is , DRUGS. Now the sport for the most part has always used drugs but the advent of GH & Insulin have caused physique to be pushed to the limits of their capacity in terms of size , and this comes at the expense of aesthetics , balance & proportion and staying within their structure
modern drugs have ruined the sport per sa because it allows guys to be heavier & heavier and not only at the expense symmetry/aesthetics and proportions but as well as conditioning , but this is what we have for better or for worse , we can argue on what it should be , what it could be or what it ought to be , but it is , Pandora's box is open and it's not going back
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4z9uF0INYu4/TdZacQW1e9I/AAAAAAAAACo/8BHozoNHqpg/s1600/ronnie-coleman-10%255B1%255D.jpg)
lol. this is another one of those arnold-esque poses that ronnie started hitting at his peak 98-99 2001-3. he started hitting a side chest pose later on that was the only pose imo that truly showed how huge he was all around
(http://www.ilovespam.com/ronniecoleman-sidechest.jpg)
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The inherent problem with modern bodybuilding is , DRUGS. Now the sport for the most part has always used drugs but the advent of GH & Insulin have caused physique to be pushed to the limits of their capacity in terms of size , and this comes at the expense of aesthetics , balance & proportion and staying within their structure
modern drugs have ruined the sport per sa because it allows guys to be heavier & heavier and not only at the expense symmetry/aesthetics and proportions but as well as conditioning , but this is what we have for better or for worse , we can argue on what it should be , what it could be or what it ought to be , but it is , Pandora's box is open and it's not going back
I disagree
I think the problem is the IFBB judging criteria not the drugs.
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thats a over the hill coleman as well.....
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I disagree
I think the problem is the IFBB judging criteria not the drugs.
The criteria is what it's always been , size , density , dryness , balance , proportion , posing & presentation and who had the best combination of all of these won.
before insulin and GH guys weren't as big and their frames didn't pay the price for it all that extra size along with conditioning
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The criteria is what it's always been , size , density , dryness , balance , proportion , posing & presentation and who had the best combination of all of these won.
If that's the criteria , how do you explain this ???
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