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Getbig Main Boards => General Topics => Topic started by: The True Adonis on September 22, 2011, 12:52:15 PM
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/22/science-light-idUSL5E7KM4CW20110922
UPDATE 1-Particles found to break speed of light
Wed, Sep 21 2011
By Robert Evans
GENEVA, Sept 22 (Reuters) - An international team of scientists said on Thursday they had recorded sub-atomic particles travelling faster than light -- a finding that could overturn one of Einstein's long-accepted fundamental laws of the universe.
Antonio Ereditato, spokesman for the researchers, told Reuters that measurements taken over three years showed neutrinos pumped from CERN near Geneva to Gran Sasso in Italy had arrived 60 nanoseconds quicker than light would have done.
"We have high confidence in our results. We have checked and rechecked for anything that could have distorted our measurements but we found nothing," he said. "We now want colleagues to check them independently."
If confirmed, the discovery would undermine Albert Einstein's 1905 theory of special relativity, which says that the speed of light is a "cosmic constant" and that nothing in the universe can travel faster.
That assertion, which has withstood over a century of testing, is one of the key elements of the so-called Standard Model of physics, which attempts to describe the way the universe and everything in it works.
The totally unexpected finding emerged from research by a physicists working on an experiment dubbed OPERA run jointly by the CERN particle research centre near Geneva and the Gran Sasso Laboratory in central Italy.
A total of 15,000 beams of neutrinos -- tiny particles that pervade the cosmos -- were fired over a period of 3 years from CERN towards Gran Sasso 730 (500 miles) km away, where they were picked up by giant detectors.
Light would have covered the distance in around 2.4 thousandths of a second, but the neutrinos took 60 nanoseconds -- or 60 billionths of a second -- less than light beams would have taken.
"It is a tiny difference," said Ereditato, who also works at Berne University in Switzerland, "but conceptually it is incredibly important. The finding is so startling that, for the moment, everybody should be very prudent."
Ereditato declined to speculate on what it might mean if other physicists, who will be officially informed of the discovery at a meeting in CERN on Friday, found that OPERA's measurements were correct.
"I just don't want to think of the implications," he told Reuters. "We are scientists and work with what we know."
Much science-fiction literature is based on the idea that, if the light-speed barrier can be overcome, time travel might theoretically become possible.
The existence of the neutrino, an elementary sub-atomic particle with a tiny amount of mass created in radioactive decay or in nuclear reactions such as those in the Sun, was first confirmed in 1934, but it still mystifies researchers.
It can pass through most matter undetected, even over long distances, and without being affected. Millions pass through the human body every day, scientists say.
To reach Gran Sasso, the neutrinos pushed out from a special installation at CERN -- also home to the Large Hadron Collider probing the origins of the universe -- have to pass through water, air and rock.
The underground Italian laboratory, some 120 km (75 miles) to the south of Rome, is the largest of its type in the world for particle physics and cosmic research.
Around 750 scientists from 22 different countries work there, attracted by the possibility of staging experiments in its three massive halls, protected from cosmic rays by some 1,400 metres (4,200 feet) of rock overhead.
(Reporting by Robert Evans; Editing by Tom Miles and Kevin Liffey)
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Well... that falls well as a dimensional error.... nothing to celebrate yet. Interesting though.
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ya right prove it
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Oh well, not like those particles would have composed Beethovens 5th anyway...
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You wouldn't be able to time anything faster.
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??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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NO NO NO!! LIGHT SPEED IS TOO SLOW!!
LIGHT SPEED TO SLOW ???
YES!!
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO RIGHT TO ......
LUDICROUS SPEED!!!!!!!!
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What does this mean for time travel?
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I did a search about this and I found this article from 2007 ???:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-475587/Scientists-break-speed-light.html
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maybe palin was right about the planet only being 6000 years old, after all ???
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I thought this was going to be a thread about Kevin Levrone's sprinting career.
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Pics or I'm calling bullshit.
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How do we measure the speed in which Phil Heath is brought down to reality by losing the Dubai, India Pro?
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Adam, this is old news, you already did this under the pecan tree a few months back, don't you remember?
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What does this mean for time travel?
(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/9/11/128971632384374957.jpg)
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I was not aware of this. Exciting times ahead.
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You wouldn't be able to time anything faster.
Look at professor coltrane here. They don't time it with a video camera and stopwatch retard.
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i'm sure some random article will be the first to break this earth shattering news
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Oh shit, I didn't see this thread, wouldn't have made another if I did
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Can't wait to see this on ESPN ::) ::)
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one day you fellas will understand ,,mayeb you wotn ,, but one day humans will understand that it all been there before,, speed of light already been broken .....thats why we have time travel already for many years,,, part of ufo phenomenon is time travelers,, us from future,, there is tendency in human to go very slow and inject info very slow until human brain can digest,, well the time has come,, yuo see it now day slowly injected since 2000....everything go into the truth which is ...we are nto alone in the universe,, other planets have water.... and can be occupied by us humans and by other beings and are,,,there are many stars like the sun ,, there are many life forms,, and .....the biggest discovery of them all..... time travel is possible ,, dimentions are real ,, etc
its a matter of time,, most of us wont be alive ,, but time will reveal it all ,,
gh15 approved
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maybe palin was right about the planet only being 6000 years old, after all ???
earth might have been TERRAFORMED by our creators, thus making life possible. Dates are misunderstandings. We know very very few about our past, that's a fact.
And God said, Let us make man in our image, like us: and let him have rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over the cattle and over all the earth and over every living thing which goes flat on the earth.
In the beginning God made the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was waste and without form; and it was dark on the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God was moving on the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
And God, looking on the light, saw that it was good: and God made a division between the light and the dark,
Naming the light, Day, and the dark, Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.
And God said, Let there be a solid arch stretching over the waters, parting the waters from the waters.
And God made the arch for a division between the waters which were under the arch and those which were over it: and it was so.
The three only real "hard" sciences are maths, chemy, and physics. Everything else, paleontology, anthropology etc are just theories. And without faith, a soul, namely our capacity to anticipate future and learn from our past we would still be animals, all these "human" capabilities are generated by our prefrontal lobes and neo cortex no other animal specie on earth has.
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one day you fellas will understand ,,mayeb you wotn ,, but one day humans will understand that it all been there before,, speed of light already been broken .....thats why we have time travel already for many years,,, part of ufo phenomenon is time travelers,, us from future,, there is tendency in human to go very slow and inject info very slow until human brain can digest,, well the time has come,, yuo see it now day slowly injected since 2000....everything go into the truth which is ...we are nto alone in the universe,, other planets have water.... and can be occupied by us humans and by other beings and are,,,there are many stars like the sun ,, there are many life forms,, and .....the biggest discovery of them all..... time travel is possible ,, dimentions are real ,, etc
its a matter of time,, most of us wont be alive ,, but time will reveal it all ,,
gh15 approved
You sure you're not a Sevastase/Alex23/Nasser shared account? ???
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one day you fellas will understand ,,mayeb you wotn ,, but one day humans will understand that it all been there before,, speed of light already been broken .....thats why we have time travel already for many years,,, part of ufo phenomenon is time travelers,, us from future,, there is tendency in human to go very slow and inject info very slow until human brain can digest,, well the time has come,, yuo see it now day slowly injected since 2000....everything go into the truth which is ...we are nto alone in the universe,, other planets have water.... and can be occupied by us humans and by other beings and are,,,there are many stars like the sun ,, there are many life forms,, and .....the biggest discovery of them all..... time travel is possible ,, dimentions are real ,, etc
its a matter of time,, most of us wont be alive ,, but time will reveal it all ,,
gh15 approved
if time travel were to ever exist we would all already know about it. think about it. ;)
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You sure you're not a Sevastase/Alex23/Nasser shared account? ???
100%,,i just like the subject,, i do hate liars though
gh15 approved
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What does this mean for time travel?
NOTHING for us as humans.Atomic Particles less then the size on a complete atom can travel at close to light speed and maybe beyond????
Any object with substantial mass can't come close however.
As you get closer to light speed your mass approaches near infinite levels thus taking a near infinite force to accelerate you faster.
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100%,,i just like the subject,, i do hate liars though
gh15 approved
gh15, who is the biggest liar in all of bodybuilding today?
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if time travel were to ever exist we would all already know about it. think about it. ;)
we do ,, the military knows about it ,, the pharma thsat control military knows about it well ,, we dont! but even humans ...regular humans every day humans are nto dumb ....they know about it ,, tons of vortexes aroudn the world,, time traveling is real ,, its dimentional time travel as in you cant change the dimention but time travel is there,, its too big to deal with on bodybuild boarding but it is real and humans know about it where the power sits,, the power sits in the military and pharma groups who control military
gh15 approved
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gh15, who is the biggest liar in all of bodybuilding today?
too many to count,, from lay nortom to skup lacour ,, to liar priest to really anyone that make living out of bodybuild in some form or shape ,,
ron heris lie on paper....to many readers,, this is big sin ,,but many around
gh15 approved
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earth might have been TERRAFORMED by our creators, thus making life possible.
The three only real "hard" sciences are maths, chemy, and physics. Everything else, paleontology, antrhopology etc are just theories.
OMFG
Holy Fuck you are a stupid ass.
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if time travel were to ever exist we would all already know about it. think about it. ;)
Hahahahah beat me to it , Michio Kaku brought this up in a seminar I watched lol
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100%,,i just like the subject,, i do hate liars though
gh15 approved
I've never seen you answer a question on your identity this quick
hello Sev / A23 / Nasser
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we do ,, the military knows about it ,, the pharma thsat control military knows about it well ,, we dont! but even humans ...regular humans every day humans are nto dumb ....they know about it ,, tons of vortexes aroudn the world,, time traveling is real ,, its dimentional time travel as in you cant change the dimention but time travel is there,, its too big to deal with on bodybuild boarding but it is real and humans know about it where the power sits,, the power sits in the military and pharma groups who control military
gh15 approved
it would be impossible to stop to the spread of such technology to every person who ever lived. the second time travel was invented, it would instantly have always existed.
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it has existed for long time,, and liek everything,, like the hiv cure that already exist ....is in goverment hands,, and im not talkin president....im talkin PHARMA groups who control the military ....
you knwo the big pharma groups...their names? the fellas who stand as the presidents and ceo? thats! where the power sit..not the president
gh15 approved
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Days before a former Mr. Universe left us he called me asking to go to his home to talk about an experience he'd had with a billionaire occultist who took him on a sort of recruitment journey. Let's just say that this man was not a liar as I know, nor a drug user (apart from Test..)
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it has existed for long time,, and liek everything,, like the hiv cure that already exist ....is in goverment hands,, and im not talkin president....im talkin PHARMA groups who control the military ....
you knwo the big pharma groups...their names? the fellas who stand as the presidents and ceo? thats! where the power sit..not the president
gh15 approved
Keep going bro, don't stop there keep going...
I know this is going to lead to Zeta Reticuli eventually :D
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/22/science-light-idUSL5E7KM4CW20110922
UPDATE 1-Particles found to break speed of light
Wed, Sep 21 2011
By Robert Evans
GENEVA, Sept 22 (Reuters) - An international team of scientists said on Thursday they had recorded sub-atomic particles travelling faster than light -- a finding that could overturn one of Einstein's long-accepted fundamental laws of the universe.
Antonio Ereditato, spokesman for the researchers, told Reuters that measurements taken over three years showed neutrinos pumped from CERN near Geneva to Gran Sasso in Italy had arrived 60 nanoseconds quicker than light would have done.
"We have high confidence in our results. We have checked and rechecked for anything that could have distorted our measurements but we found nothing," he said. "We now want colleagues to check them independently."
If confirmed, the discovery would undermine Albert Einstein's 1905 theory of special relativity, which says that the speed of light is a "cosmic constant" and that nothing in the universe can travel faster.
That assertion, which has withstood over a century of testing, is one of the key elements of the so-called Standard Model of physics, which attempts to describe the way the universe and everything in it works.
The totally unexpected finding emerged from research by a physicists working on an experiment dubbed OPERA run jointly by the CERN particle research centre near Geneva and the Gran Sasso Laboratory in central Italy.
A total of 15,000 beams of neutrinos -- tiny particles that pervade the cosmos -- were fired over a period of 3 years from CERN towards Gran Sasso 730 (500 miles) km away, where they were picked up by giant detectors.
Light would have covered the distance in around 2.4 thousandths of a second, but the neutrinos took 60 nanoseconds -- or 60 billionths of a second -- less than light beams would have taken.
"It is a tiny difference," said Ereditato, who also works at Berne University in Switzerland, "but conceptually it is incredibly important. The finding is so startling that, for the moment, everybody should be very prudent."
Ereditato declined to speculate on what it might mean if other physicists, who will be officially informed of the discovery at a meeting in CERN on Friday, found that OPERA's measurements were correct.
"I just don't want to think of the implications," he told Reuters. "We are scientists and work with what we know."
Much science-fiction literature is based on the idea that, if the light-speed barrier can be overcome, time travel might theoretically become possible.
The existence of the neutrino, an elementary sub-atomic particle with a tiny amount of mass created in radioactive decay or in nuclear reactions such as those in the Sun, was first confirmed in 1934, but it still mystifies researchers.
It can pass through most matter undetected, even over long distances, and without being affected. Millions pass through the human body every day, scientists say.
To reach Gran Sasso, the neutrinos pushed out from a special installation at CERN -- also home to the Large Hadron Collider probing the origins of the universe -- have to pass through water, air and rock.
The underground Italian laboratory, some 120 km (75 miles) to the south of Rome, is the largest of its type in the world for particle physics and cosmic research.
Around 750 scientists from 22 different countries work there, attracted by the possibility of staging experiments in its three massive halls, protected from cosmic rays by some 1,400 metres (4,200 feet) of rock overhead.
(Reporting by Robert Evans; Editing by Tom Miles and Kevin Liffey)
I am sure you had some imput in the discovery. and yes I know I cannot have one.
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one day you fellas will understand ,,mayeb you wotn ,, but one day humans will understand that it all been there before,, speed of light already been broken .....thats why we have time travel already for many years,,, part of ufo phenomenon is time travelers,, us from future,, there is tendency in human to go very slow and inject info very slow until human brain can digest,, well the time has come,, yuo see it now day slowly injected since 2000....everything go into the truth which is ...we are nto alone in the universe,, other planets have water.... and can be occupied by us humans and by other beings and are,,,there are many stars like the sun ,, there are many life forms,, and .....the biggest discovery of them all..... time travel is possible ,, dimentions are real ,, etc
its a matter of time,, most of us wont be alive ,, but time will reveal it all ,,
gh15 approved
Maybe Ronnie was using alien hgh? :o
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ronnie was using what others didnt want to use....
lots of heavy ass weight and some good ole hormones mixed into his grits,, his genetic respond was there too and rest is history
gh15 approved
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we do ,, the military knows about it ,, the pharma thsat control military knows about it well ,, we dont! but even humans ...regular humans every day humans are nto dumb ....they know about it ,, tons of vortexes aroudn the world,, time traveling is real ,, its dimentional time travel as in you cant change the dimention but time travel is there,, its too big to deal with on bodybuild boarding but it is real and humans know about it where the power sits,, the power sits in the military and pharma groups who control military
gh15 approved
What a tornado of nonsense and conspiracy.
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how about that anti-gravity suit :P
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What a tornado of nonsense and conspiracy.
My gh15 identity theory might be dead on
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so this explains the dead fish and birds. sending fucking beams into the air and underwater, fucking shit up all day.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/22/science-light-idUSL5E7KM4CW20110922
UPDATE 1-Particles found to break speed of light
Wed, Sep 21 2011
By Robert Evans
GENEVA, Sept 22 (Reuters) - An international team of scientists said on Thursday they had recorded sub-atomic particles travelling faster than light -- a finding that could overturn one of Einstein's long-accepted fundamental laws of the universe.
Antonio Ereditato, spokesman for the researchers, told Reuters that measurements taken over three years showed neutrinos pumped from CERN near Geneva to Gran Sasso in Italy had arrived 60 nanoseconds quicker than light would have done.
"We have high confidence in our results. We have checked and rechecked for anything that could have distorted our measurements but we found nothing," he said. "We now want colleagues to check them independently."
If confirmed, the discovery would undermine Albert Einstein's 1905 theory of special relativity, which says that the speed of light is a "cosmic constant" and that nothing in the universe can travel faster.
That assertion, which has withstood over a century of testing, is one of the key elements of the so-called Standard Model of physics, which attempts to describe the way the universe and everything in it works.
The totally unexpected finding emerged from research by a physicists working on an experiment dubbed OPERA run jointly by the CERN particle research centre near Geneva and the Gran Sasso Laboratory in central Italy.
A total of 15,000 beams of neutrinos -- tiny particles that pervade the cosmos -- were fired over a period of 3 years from CERN towards Gran Sasso 730 (500 miles) km away, where they were picked up by giant detectors.
Light would have covered the distance in around 2.4 thousandths of a second, but the neutrinos took 60 nanoseconds -- or 60 billionths of a second -- less than light beams would have taken.
"It is a tiny difference," said Ereditato, who also works at Berne University in Switzerland, "but conceptually it is incredibly important. The finding is so startling that, for the moment, everybody should be very prudent."
Ereditato declined to speculate on what it might mean if other physicists, who will be officially informed of the discovery at a meeting in CERN on Friday, found that OPERA's measurements were correct.
"I just don't want to think of the implications," he told Reuters. "We are scientists and work with what we know."
Much science-fiction literature is based on the idea that, if the light-speed barrier can be overcome, time travel might theoretically become possible.
The existence of the neutrino, an elementary sub-atomic particle with a tiny amount of mass created in radioactive decay or in nuclear reactions such as those in the Sun, was first confirmed in 1934, but it still mystifies researchers.
It can pass through most matter undetected, even over long distances, and without being affected. Millions pass through the human body every day, scientists say.
To reach Gran Sasso, the neutrinos pushed out from a special installation at CERN -- also home to the Large Hadron Collider probing the origins of the universe -- have to pass through water, air and rock.
The underground Italian laboratory, some 120 km (75 miles) to the south of Rome, is the largest of its type in the world for particle physics and cosmic research.
Around 750 scientists from 22 different countries work there, attracted by the possibility of staging experiments in its three massive halls, protected from cosmic rays by some 1,400 metres (4,200 feet) of rock overhead.
(Reporting by Robert Evans; Editing by Tom Miles and Kevin Liffey)
I like this new Hard On Collider machine. Many a great discovery will be made from it..
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Adonis, can you present us with a photo of the black fella responsible for elucidating this potentially epoc making discovery?
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I like this new Hard On Collider machine. Many a great discovery will be made from it..
I think Detwiller heads up the project on this particular machine.
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I think Detwiller heads up the project on this particular machine.
Poor Melissa Rottweiler. I miss her at times and it is a shame she left bodybuilding to head up this project. I hear she is single now though but i don't know if i could. She has lost a bit of muscle.
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What does this mean for time travel?
Basically if this is for real and not some technical error in a trillion dollar machine, it means all the physicists are about to kill themselves. This is such a fucked up and overwhelming concept. It's like finding out ronnie coleman really was a natty with some obscure growth disorder. It turns everything and I mean everything on it's head. Even the concept of time which is seen as a rather concrete concept is now is some wierd gray area.
Seriously I wish you guys could appreciate how burnt this truly is. Our world is dependent on einstein's theories whether it be beaming your trivial conversations with your mother to space or, creating nuclear power.
Basically einstein the smarter man ever gave us one basic assumption that we've built everything on, if that assumption is false, there's no one smart enough to come up with a better idea.
P.S. if this does prove true than this makes that trillion dollar government program totally worth it.
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This could change a few things.
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Even the concept of time which is seen as a rather concrete concept is now is some wierd gray area.
the leading scientists today dont believe time exists at all.
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if time travel were to ever exist we would all already know about it. think about it. ;)
wrong
see: http://www.amazon.com/Time-Travel-Einsteins-Universe-Possibilities/dp/B003L1ZYKG/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1316735896&sr=1-1
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the leading scientists today dont believe time exists at all.
Any links?
I know you've done shrooms and shit before, I always felt like time is such a meaningless concept when I was shrooming, did you too?
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the leading scientists today dont believe time exists at all.
wrong again
you're trying to oversimplify
time exists, its just what exactly time is, is what's confusing. It's confusing but that doesn't mean they deny it's existence.
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wrong again
you're trying to oversimplify
time exists, its just what exactly time is, is what's confusing. It's confusing but that doesn't mean they deny it's existence.
Well this is the shit that nobody really knows but it's usually considered whatever time is be it a dimension or whatever, it's fairly consistent in the last 14 billions years.
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Time doesnt exists you morons its a human concept. Do you think time exists to a rock?
Stupid meatheads
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I think most physicists consider the universe to be 11-dimensional at the moment :o
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I think most physicists consider the universe to be 11-dimensional at the moment :o
Very few consider this true.
Those that do only care that additional "dimensions" lead to a lot of very interesting things when they're used to model the world of high energy physics.
The word "dimension" means something very different to the average person than what it does to physicists and mathematicians when viewing it in regards to things like manifolds, compactification, Calabi Yau, AdS, CFT, gauge/connection, degrees of freedom, etc.
If you make the discovery that the exterior derivative of a uniquely defined two-form vanishes, the exterior derivative of its Hodge dual vanishes, and the initial two form is described as the exterior derivative of a very important "potential," you piss your pants and open your LaTeX file to start typing....whatever number "n" ends up being the orientation of your volume element.
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possibly this means that the limit is not the speed of light but the speed of neutrinos, or will we find particles that go even faster - interesting never the less.
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So, will this have an impact on the anti-gravity suit you've been working on? How's that going btw?
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they sent us ronnie coleman
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/22/science-light-idUSL5E7KM4CW20110922
UPDATE 1-Particles found to break speed of light
Wed, Sep 21 2011
By Robert Evans
GENEVA, Sept 22 (Reuters) - An international team of scientists said on Thursday they had recorded sub-atomic particles travelling faster than light -- a finding that could overturn one of Einstein's long-accepted fundamental laws of the universe.
Antonio Ereditato, spokesman for the researchers, told Reuters that measurements taken over three years showed neutrinos pumped from CERN near Geneva to Gran Sasso in Italy had arrived 60 nanoseconds quicker than light would have done.
"We have high confidence in our results. We have checked and rechecked for anything that could have distorted our measurements but we found nothing," he said. "We now want colleagues to check them independently."
If confirmed, the discovery would undermine Albert Einstein's 1905 theory of special relativity, which says that the speed of light is a "cosmic constant" and that nothing in the universe can travel faster.
That assertion, which has withstood over a century of testing, is one of the key elements of the so-called Standard Model of physics, which attempts to describe the way the universe and everything in it works.
The totally unexpected finding emerged from research by a physicists working on an experiment dubbed OPERA run jointly by the CERN particle research centre near Geneva and the Gran Sasso Laboratory in central Italy.
A total of 15,000 beams of neutrinos -- tiny particles that pervade the cosmos -- were fired over a period of 3 years from CERN towards Gran Sasso 730 (500 miles) km away, where they were picked up by giant detectors.
Light would have covered the distance in around 2.4 thousandths of a second, but the neutrinos took 60 nanoseconds -- or 60 billionths of a second -- less than light beams would have taken.
"It is a tiny difference," said Ereditato, who also works at Berne University in Switzerland, "but conceptually it is incredibly important. The finding is so startling that, for the moment, everybody should be very prudent."
Ereditato declined to speculate on what it might mean if other physicists, who will be officially informed of the discovery at a meeting in CERN on Friday, found that OPERA's measurements were correct.
"I just don't want to think of the implications," he told Reuters. "We are scientists and work with what we know."
Much science-fiction literature is based on the idea that, if the light-speed barrier can be overcome, time travel might theoretically become possible.
The existence of the neutrino, an elementary sub-atomic particle with a tiny amount of mass created in radioactive decay or in nuclear reactions such as those in the Sun, was first confirmed in 1934, but it still mystifies researchers.
It can pass through most matter undetected, even over long distances, and without being affected. Millions pass through the human body every day, scientists say.
To reach Gran Sasso, the neutrinos pushed out from a special installation at CERN -- also home to the Large Hadron Collider probing the origins of the universe -- have to pass through water, air and rock.
The underground Italian laboratory, some 120 km (75 miles) to the south of Rome, is the largest of its type in the world for particle physics and cosmic research.
Around 750 scientists from 22 different countries work there, attracted by the possibility of staging experiments in its three massive halls, protected from cosmic rays by some 1,400 metres (4,200 feet) of rock overhead.
(Reporting by Robert Evans; Editing by Tom Miles and Kevin Liffey)
Completely irrelevant in practical terms. Unless the speed of light can be surpassed by a billion fold, it means nothing as far as interstellar travel is concerned and that is all that matters to me when it comes to the issue "speed of light".
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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earth might have been TERRAFORMED by our creators, thus making life possible. Dates are misunderstandings. We know very very few about our past, that's a fact.
The three only real "hard" sciences are maths, chemy, and physics. Everything else, paleontology, anthropology etc are just theories. And without faith, a soul, namely our capacity to anticipate future and learn from our past we would still be animals, all these "human" capabilities are generated by our prefrontal lobes and neo cortex no other animal specie on earth has.
It's been said that Man has risen and fallen many times...Atlantis and it's sister city, etc. The Sphynx being older than 5,000 yrs.
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What does this mean for time travel?
Means I can go back in time and kill Apenis' mom before she was impregnated with his father's demon seed.
Hmm, maybe my disturbing online pursuit of the lovely Jeezebelle isn't such a loss cause after all.
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It's been said that Man has risen and fallen many times...Atlantis and it's sister city, etc. The Sphynx being older than 5,000 yrs.
and in all of these civilizations that have been "resetted" or anihilated completely in a way or another, you find traces of extra terrestrial "fathers" and "mothers".
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Tesla never believed Einstein's theory about the speed of light. I don't blame him. Most of what humans measure today is not fact but theories, ideas that they can't really prove but most of all can't disprove.
As for time. What is time? Time is a man made concept. Time is not a measure in nature, it is a measure we as humans used as a measure.
Why Einstein was so hung up on the speed of light being the fastest is beyond me.
As for time travel. lol. Lots of fantasy thinking. What has happened is done and what hasn't happened won't happen until it does. The day humans can time travel which will never happen, but the day they do, the entire fabric of society will unravel and everything we know will cease to exist.
Gh15 does have a point about Pharma, but also should group Banks into the fold of those that truly run the world.
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Tesla never believed Einstein's theory about the speed of light.
Tesla never got any credit.
Should have died a wealthy happy man but didn't.
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Tesla never believed Einstein's theory about the speed of light. I don't blame him. Most of what humans measure today is not fact but theories, ideas that they can't really prove but most of all can't disprove.
As for time. What is time? Time is a man made concept. Time is not a measure in nature, it is a measure we as humans used as a measure.
Why Einstein was so hung up on the speed of light being the fastest is beyond me.
As for time travel. lol. Lots of fantasy thinking. What has happened is done and what hasn't happened won't happen until it does. The day humans can time travel which will never happen, but the day they do, the entire fabric of society will unravel and everything we know will cease to exist.
Gh15 does have a point about Pharma, but also should group Banks into the fold of those that truly run the world.
Tesla was never really well educated when it came to theoretical physics. He was extremely good at what he was doing, which was electrical engineering. Two different things.
Einstein's theory has held up extremely well and is still true to pretty much anything that is relevant to us today. This discovery have yet to undergo scientific scrutiny.
You're very quick to jump on to the conspiracy bandwagon... people are fucking lunatics these days.
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Tesla never got any credit.
Should have died a wealthy happy man but didn't.
He wouldn't know what to do with wealth even if he had it. The man was a social outcast whose prime joy in life was to work in his laboratory.
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He wouldn't know what to do with wealth even if he had it. The man was a social outcast whose prime joy in life was to work in his laboratory.
Maybe go to the clubs and burn it like mayweather.
So why couldn't he have spent his money on lets say .......His prime joy in life? How/why do you come to the conclusion that because of being a "social outcast" he wouldn't know what to do with money?
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/22/science-light-idUSL5E7KM4CW20110922
UPDATE 1-Particles found to break speed of light
Wed, Sep 21 2011
what are the implications here for mankind?/
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what are the implications here for mankind?/
Phil winning Mr O?
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Maybe go to the clubs and burn it like mayweather.
So why couldn't he have spent his money on lets say .......His prime joy in life? How/why do you come to the conclusion that because of being a "social outcast" he wouldn't know what to do with money?
He had plenty opportunities to make a disgusting amount of money but turned them down/didn't care. He was never good with money to begin with and really didn't plan ahead when it came to financing his own experiments. Luckily for him he had sponsors most of the time. But towards the later part of his "career" he was flat out broke and no one gave a shit.
Have you ever read any books or do you only watch documentaries that only tell 1/5 of the story?
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He had plenty opportunities to make a disgusting amount of money but turned them down/didn't care. He was never good with money to begin with and really didn't plan ahead when it came to financing his own experiments. Luckily for him he had sponsors most of the time. But towards the later part of his "career" he was flat out broke and no one gave a shit.
Have you ever read any books or do you only watch documentaries that only tell 1/5 of the story?
I have only heard bits hence why Im asking :)
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In my attempt to appear that I possess a higher intelligence than my fellow GetBiggers, I Googled “Speed of Light” and rediscovered some interesting information that will be soon forgotten again.
The Speed of Light per second is 186,000 miles per second … which I have to presume proves that time itself does in fact exist. (Or am I mistaken?)
A Light Year isthe distance that light travels (through a vacuum) in one year.
(A year is a measurement of time, I think!)
The nearest star (other than the Sun) is 4.3 light years away. (Another mention of "time" and the universal reliance on it.)
Our galaxy (the Milky Way) is about 100,000 light years in diameter. ("Time" mentioned time and time again.)
The distance to the galaxy M87 in the Virgo cluster is 50 million light years.
The distance to most distant object seen in the universe is about 18 billion light years (18 x 10^9 light years).
Looking Back in Time - Because light travels at a large but finite speed, it takes time for light to cover large distances. Thus, when we see the light of very distant objects in the universe, we are actually seeing light emitted from them a long time ago: we see them literally as they were in the distant past.
And I still got no idea what time is!.
But of most importance ...... due to the fact that someone recently discovered an element that travels faster than the Speed of Light could simply mean that …. 186,000 miles per second is incorrect and invalid and should be adjusted to the speed of that fastest element?
Or maybe they are just too damn smart to realize that.
The smartest friend I ever had could not tie his own shoelaces so he wore loafers throughout his short lifetime.
So the next time you start discussing smart-shit stuff like this with someone, lower your eyes and look at his shoes.
I wear sneakers!
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The distance to most distant object seen in the universe is about 18 billion light years (18 x 10^9 light years).
And still some people CLAIM they KNOW we're alone in the universe which is always hillarious lol.
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And still some people CLAIM they KNOW we're alone in the universe which is always hillarious lol.
And who are we not alone with?
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And who are we not alone with?
we Don't Know.
hell, we have even found planets We could live on. Which I guess helps people with the thought.
And that's just assuming "other life" needs what we needs which is a kinda stupid assumption imo.
I believe earth has been resetted a Bunch of times due to natural disasters. not too long ago people were fucking Burned! ..for having crazy ideas ... BURNED ALIVE. and now, not too long later we can travel to space. Imagine a Billion years of uninterrupted developing of technology.. and keep in mind what have happened the last 100 years in terms of technology etc. Where to you think we would be then?
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Well stated, DOC, but it's funner to believe as our good friend Swede does.
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How do we measure the speed in which Phil Heath is brought down to reality by losing the Dubai, India Pro?
thats nothing....nothing compares to the speed in which 3333's threads backfire on him :)
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it would be impossible to stop to the spread of such technology to every person who ever lived. the second time travel was invented, it would instantly have always existed.
not necessarily..time travel would only exist at the point at which it was invented....if a time machine was invented in 2005, you could not go back in time farther than 2005...that would be a paradox..so going back to the time of the Nazis would not be possible
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ronnie was using what others didnt want to use....
lots of heavy ass weight and some good ole hormones mixed into his grits,, his genetic respond was there too and rest is history
gh15 approved
this post seems different from other gh15 posts which supports the theory that gh15 is many different people....
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You can be sure that Obama and his brainless minions will expect the spaceships that we're flying around in faster than the speed of light to be "green energy". ::)
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You can be sure that Obama and his brainless minions will expect the spaceships that we're flying around in faster than the speed of light to be "green energy". ::)
hahah what, are you high?
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In my attempt to appear that I possess a higher intelligence than my fellow GetBiggers, I Googled “Speed of Light” and rediscovered some interesting information that will be soon forgotten again.
The Speed of Light per second is 186,000 miles per second … which I have to presume proves that time itself does in fact exist. (Or am I mistaken?)
A Light Year isthe distance that light travels (through a vacuum) in one year.
(A year is a measurement of time, I think!)
The nearest star (other than the Sun) is 4.3 light years away. (Another mention of "time" and the universal reliance on it.)
Our galaxy (the Milky Way) is about 100,000 light years in diameter. ("Time" mentioned time and time again.)
The distance to the galaxy M87 in the Virgo cluster is 50 million light years.
The distance to most distant object seen in the universe is about 18 billion light years (18 x 10^9 light years).
Looking Back in Time - Because light travels at a large but finite speed, it takes time for light to cover large distances. Thus, when we see the light of very distant objects in the universe, we are actually seeing light emitted from them a long time ago: we see them literally as they were in the distant past.
And I still got no idea what time is!.
But of most importance ...... due to the fact that someone recently discovered an element that travels faster than the Speed of Light could simply mean that …. 186,000 miles per second is incorrect and invalid and should be adjusted to the speed of that fastest element?
Or maybe they are just too damn smart to realize that.
The smartest friend I ever had could not tie his own shoelaces so he wore loafers throughout his short lifetime.
So the next time you start discussing smart-shit stuff like this with someone, lower your eyes and look at his shoes.
I wear sneakers!
I think Wong Hong got an unusually large head..
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ANDRI, I find your remark about the inability of visiting time that passed prior to a "time machine" discovery interesting and I'm gonna 'thunk" about it for a while and introduce it and the subject at hand to a bunch of powerful-brained-nerds who I play Poker with on rare occasions.
One of these Poker players is a Nuclear Reactor Start Up Engineer, the other is a Quantum Physics Professor and two or three others are doctors including a Shrink who finds us GetBiggers very interesting critters and has offered non-obligatory comments on more than a few GetBiggers he feels should undergo analysis.
I myself do NOT believe that Time Travel has ever existed and NEVER will, but I am not the smartest GetBigger in this loonie-bin, so I could be mistaken!
And I hope I am mistaken cause I want to go to places I've never been to before and most likely never will .... and see the future before it arrives so I can do some investing on stocks that are yet to be.
Anyway, thanks for the interesting thought.
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Time travel either never existed/exists/will exist or it has always been around, it is meaningless to say it "may be invented one day"....
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One more comment......
There appear to be a lot of 'deep-thinkers' here ...... as well as a few of us whom apparently got passed over when the brains were issued.
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ANDRI, I find your remark about the inability of visiting time that passed prior to a "time machine" discovery interesting and I'm gonna 'thunk" about it for a while and introduce it and the subject at hand to a bunch of powerful-brained-nerds who I play Poker with on rare occasions. One of these Poker players is a Nuclear Reactor Start Up Engineer, the other is a Quantum Physics Professor and two or three others are doctors including a Shrink who finds us GetBiggers very interesting critters and has offered non-obligatory comments on more than a few GetBiggers he feels should undergo analysis. I myself do NOT believe that Time Travel has ever existed and NEVER will, but I am not the smartest GetBigger in this loonie-bin, so I could be mistaken! And I hope I am mistaken cause I want to go to places I've never been to before and most likely never will .... and see the future before it arrives so I can do some investing on stocks that are yet to be. Anyway, thanks for the interesting thought.
You guys are way off target here, it's not time travel per se, but alternate universe/existence travel you're really looking for.
So in actuality, an alternate universe exists where Goodrum really is Mr. Olympia.
Digest that brother-fuckers..... ;D
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ANDRI, I find your remark about the inability of visiting time that passed prior to a "time machine" discovery interesting and I'm gonna 'thunk" about it for a while and introduce it and the subject at hand to a bunch of powerful-brained-nerds who I play Poker with on rare occasions.
One of these Poker players is a Nuclear Reactor Start Up Engineer, the other is a Quantum Physics Professor and two or three others are doctors including a Shrink who finds us GetBiggers very interesting critters and has offered non-obligatory comments on more than a few GetBiggers he feels should undergo analysis.
I myself do NOT believe that Time Travel has ever existed and NEVER will, but I am not the smartest GetBigger in this loonie-bin, so I could be mistaken!
And I hope I am mistaken cause I want to go to places I've never been to before and most likely never will .... and see the future before it arrives so I can do some investing on stocks that are yet to be.
Anyway, thanks for the interesting thought.
Thanks a lot...I could be wrong but it just makes sense that we cannot go back in time further than when the time machine was actually invented because it never existed in the time that you would go back to, (for instance, the assassination of JFK).....and lets say if you and I invented a time machine in our garage, that would be the first day of its existence and therefore any future time traveller would not be able to come back and visit us farther back than that very day......
also if we invented a time machine, the very instant that it became operational, we would probably begin receiving visitors and other stuff from the future since I presume that the time machine would remain operational in the future and therefore people from that future (maybe ourselves?) would send us stuff from the future or would themselves travel in the machine back to visit us....we, on the other hand might be able to go into the future only so far as the time machine being operational in that future.....
if the machine is operational and working normally in the year 2025 but not operational in the year 2026 then 2025 would be our limit in terms of future travel......just a theory....what do you think?
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You guys are way off target here, it's not time travel per se, but alternate universe/existence travel you're really looking for.
So in actuality, an alternate universe exists where Goodrum really is Mr. Olympia.
Digest that brother-fuckers..... ;D
funny comment about Goodrum..LOL...I would have to think about the alternate universe theory......its just too big to wrap my kind around....I know that scientist think there could be a multiverse with numerous alternate universes...but if this is the case I don't buy that there are alternate copies of ourselves there..probably other life forms of some sort
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funny comment about Goodrum..LOL...I would have to think about the alternate universe theory......its just too big to wrap my kind around....I know that scientist think there could be a multiverse with numerous alternate universes...but if this is the case I don't buy that there are alternate copies of ourselves there..probably other life forms of some sort
they're are also speculating about more dimension here, on our planet which we cannot see. Which would explain our gravity. (They said something about the one thing that cannot be calculated and made sense of is our gravity, cant remember if it should be more or less. but having another dimension would somehow expain something that they cant at this time.)
Im not good at remembering Exact things lol.
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they're are also speculating about more dimension here, on our planet which we cannot see. Which would explain our gravity. (They said something about the one thing that cannot be calculated and made sense of is our gravity, cant remember if it should be more or less. but having another dimension would somehow expain something that they cant at this time.)
Im not good at remembering Exact things lol.
The universe is just so mind-blowing, its hard to comprehend and make sense of......I can't believe how huge it is......and if its expanding a they say, then expanding into what?..some even speculate that the universe has been expanding and imploding on a regular basis for eons......its more than I can imagine
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and in all of these civilizations that have been "resetted" or anihilated completely in a way or another, you find traces of extra terrestrial "fathers" and "mothers".
Meh what's the need for green men. Alot of these traces are of ancient civilization's we know absolutely nothing about. Just the same as traces of the roman empire can be found in the modern world from argentina to russia, the same was mostly just as common in past ages. Most people are completely unaware that most of asia and all of europe were settled by the Arayan's this repeating cycle in world history.
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funny comment about Goodrum..LOL...I would have to think about the alternate universe theory......its just too big to wrap my kind around....I know that scientist think there could be a multiverse with numerous alternate universes...but if this is the case I don't buy that there are alternate copies of ourselves there..probably other life forms of some sort
If space is infinite, then there are an infinite number of universes within that "space", with an infinite number of planets.....so surely one (or more) must exist that is an exact/similar replica of earth. Kinda like the infinite monkeys with typewriters will come up with Shakespeare type thinking.
The Multiverse would exist beyond our vision anyway. We can't see beyond the speed of light, and the Big Bang was only 14 billion years ago, so thoeretically we are only able to see a sliver of what exists out there. So yes, whether we admit it or not....Goodrum is a Mr. Olympia somewhere. ;D
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CHOPPER, ANDRI, ..... Your brief discussion on Alternate Universes is one of the major chapters within the study of Quantum Mechanics. Refer to DANCING WU LI MASTERS.
I can't completely understand it but that chapter claims that there are many universes and each of us are in each of them but whereas we turn right here in our present universe, we turn left in the alternate universe .... and every possibility takes place within each universe.
Or something like that!
ANDRI, Do you get dizzy when you attempt to 'visualize' the concept of eternity?
Hell!, I got dizzy just reading your explanation of Time Travel as you so 'intelligently' described it above.
There was a movie about some guys who went back in time and stepped on a butterfly which changed the whole world many years later. NAME THAT MOVIE!
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It was once theorized that neutrinos could ONLY travel faster than light.not sure exactly when that theory went out of vogue, but since they were said to have no mass and no substance as we know it, they were not limited by the light speed limit, which stems from the E=Mc2 equality.
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one day you fellas will understand ,,mayeb you wotn ,, but one day humans will understand that it all been there before,, speed of light already been broken .....thats why we have time travel already for many years,,, part of ufo phenomenon is time travelers,, us from future,, there is tendency in human to go very slow and inject info very slow until human brain can digest,, well the time has come,, yuo see it now day slowly injected since 2000....everything go into the truth which is ...we are nto alone in the universe,, other planets have water.... and can be occupied by us humans and by other beings and are,,,there are many stars like the sun ,, there are many life forms,, and .....the biggest discovery of them all..... time travel is possible ,, dimentions are real ,, etc
its a matter of time,, most of us wont be alive ,, but time will reveal it all ,,
gh15 approved
In my honest opinion I without a doubt agree with this. I used to think it was crazy for other life to exist; or the goverment keeping information away from the public. But, as time went by and things that were classified, became declassfied, (like operation crossroads, operation homerun etc.) I pretty much shuddered at what was hidden from us all these years. Take Area 51 for example, we all know it is right there in Groom lake in Nevada, but the goverment denies that it even exists- No matter what footage or claims from individuals whom were employed there, they give us a big F**k you and tell the world it is not there PERIOD. Could time travel be possible? We DON'T know, or DO we?
One day, I hope I am still around to be able to read Richard Bissell's diaries (if someone actually has the guts to show it to the world)-whom was essentially, the J. Edgar Hoover of the CIA.
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Well, the measurement has yet to be replicated at another lab;
What it means (if confirmed) that Relativity will become a "subset" in a larger phenomena,...similar to the way Newtonian Mechanics are a subset of relativity.
So advanced degrees are not as useless as some wags here have maintained...
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I think Wong Hong got an unusually large head..
I've heard they build the lhc around his cranium...
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CHOPPER, ANDRI, ..... Your brief discussion on Alternate Universes is one of the major chapters within the study of Quantum Mechanics. Refer to DANCING WU LI MASTERS.
I can't completely understand it but that chapter claims that there are many universes and each of us are in each of them but whereas we turn right here in our present universe, we turn left in the alternate universe .... and every possibility takes place within each universe.
Or something like that!
ANDRI, Do you get dizzy when you attempt to 'visualize' the concept of eternity?
Hell!, I got dizzy just reading your explanation of Time Travel as you so 'intelligently' described it above.
There was a movie about some guys who went back in time and stepped on a butterfly which changed the whole world many years later. NAME THAT MOVIE!
wow..I love time travel movies..but the one you are referring to escapes me..I haven't seen that one
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wow..I love time travel movies..but the one you are referring to escapes me..I haven't seen that one
Hot Tub Time Machine.
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Hot Tub Time Machine.
thanks..gotta look it up and view it
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I wonder what's Lou Ferrigno's view on the matter....
And Einstein may be incorrect, but I'm sure the "everyone's a relative" rule still holds for parts of the Southern US...
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I wonder what's Lou Ferrigno's view on the matter....
And Einstein may be incorrect, but I'm sure the "everyone's a relative" rule still holds for parts of the Southern US...
It's not that Einstein is incorrect,...there is just "more to it".
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goddamn, took me a day to get that one LOL! ;D
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Bravo...
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I had to think about that one before I laughed out loud.
VERY funny@
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In my honest opinion I without a doubt agree with this. I used to think it was crazy for other life to exist; or the goverment keeping information away from the public. But, as time went by and things that were classified, became declassfied, (like operation crossroads, operation homerun etc.) I pretty much shuddered at what was hidden from us all these years. Take Area 51 for example, we all know it is right there in Groom lake in Nevada, but the goverment denies that it even exists- No matter what footage or claims from individuals whom were employed there, they give us a big F**k you and tell the world it is not there PERIOD. Could time travel be possible? We DON'T know, or DO we?
One day, I hope I am still around to be able to read Richard Bissell's diaries (if someone actually has the guts to show it to the world)-whom was essentially, the J. Edgar Hoover of the CIA.
The government admits Area 51 exists, they have for the longest time...in fact they have flown Putin over it...due to the popularity of it, thet have moved a lot of operations elsewhere. Yet, you try going on the property, they will eff you up.
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I had to think about that one before I laughed out loud.
VERY funny@
Yeah, me too. But I knew it before I read it actually... 8)
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The government admits Area 51 exists, they have for the longest time...in fact they have flown Putin over it...due to the popularity of it, thet have moved a lot of operations elsewhere. Yet, you try going on the property, they will eff you up.
Very true.
Then again, the same's true of any military installation. They don't take kindly to trespassers :D
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I am in the process of attempting to explain 'Time Travel' and its association to Einestein's Theory of Relativity as simply as possible but I run into some difficulties at the end which I had no difficulty understanding late last nite after a couple of Margaritas.
But here is the start of my simple (hopefully) explanation.
Let's assume that Ron and Grant and Tommy Wishbone are on a very distant planet and have made plans to attend the 2012 IFBB Olympia in Las Vegas.
Let's also assume that they only have two ways to travel from that distant planet to Las Vegas.
One mode of travel is by way of hopping on a light particle (picture it as a bullet traveling at 186,000 miles per second) and the other method of travel is by hopping on a neutron which travels at a rate of speed much higher than the speed of light. (For simplicity let's assume that the speed of a neutron is 300,000 miles per second.)
Ron and Grant decide to depart that distant planet at the same time on the same day, but Ron will travel at the 186,000 miles per second mode of transportation on a light particle and Grant will travel at 300,000 miles per second via the neutron mode of travel.
They both depart the distant planet at the exact same time but who will arrive in Las Vegas first.
Of course Grant will arrive there first but since he is traveling faster than the speed of light, he will arrive in Las Vegas before he left that distant planet and way before Ron himself arrives.
But here is the problem I am having! What the hell happens from Ron's perspective when Tommy departs the next day after Ron has departed and what the hell happens from Grant's perspective when Tommy actually arrives in Las Vegas.
This is the kind of shit they ask you in pre-QM tests to see if you qualify for further education within the area of QM.... so I have b een told and i hope I explained it correctly.
The end but very confusing result is that each traveling participant experiences the end result (the arrival in Las Vegas) somewhat differently due to 'relativity'.
And that's where I get completely confused, but I have been told that if you can understand three moves ahead in the game of Chess, this sort of problem will be no problem at all for you.
Any clarification would be appreciated because life is almost unbearable without knowing all this shit.
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Here's another deep though for you wise guys to ponder.
If he speed of light is constant and if light can only be a particle or a wave, that would mean that that particle or that wave started at zero miles per second and immediately 'accelerated' to 186,000 miles per second.
I might not be the originator of this theory but I call it the IMMEDIATE ACCELERATION THEORY.
And 'acceleration' is not even a part of it because acceleration is the rate of change of velocity with time, but the speed of light is immediate and constant at 186,000 miles per second.
Something has got to be wrong here.
But don't blame me. I didn't start this shit!
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There is a more powerful force of beings controlling humans that is something I'm convinced of. It would pretty much explain a lot of our history and where we are headed. Kind of along the lines of Zaccharia Sitchen and his Nibiru Annunaki theory. I believe human beings were genetically created as a slave population who eventually wore out their usefulness for whatever reason. I think now we have become so unstable with our nuclear weapons and behavior that whoever created us really doesn't want to bother cleaning up our mess. We will probably kill each other off anyways. Kind of like a rat infestation. Why does humanity since our inception focused so heavily on this obsession with gold. It's an interesting theory. There are PLENTY of rare elements, stones etc........that could have taken the place of gold but gold remains the sole obsession of humanity since our existence. Why? Some of these theories put forth by the whole alien ancient astronaut crowd are very convincing. I don't believe for a minute we evolved from apes. Maybe negros did. In fact maybe white people were not the natural ancestors of planet earth. Maybe arabs, chinese, negroids etc. were and white people are actually from a different planet. That too would explain a lot. Who knows. Who the fuck cares. 40+ million Americans live on foodstamps and below the poverty line. There are 150 million indentured child slave laborers in India. None of this advanced technology is going to eradicate world poverty or human suffering. Even in the 21st century where Ted Turner can own millions of acres we have people starving to death. LOL.......it's hilarious really.
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First its politics, and now the meatheads are trying to figure out quantum physics.... ::)
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I hope that this discussion continues because it's actually possible that some of this input may put new ideas about QM and the possibility of time travel into the minds of some very smart guys who had the misfortune of visiting GETBIG and reading our input.
You can be assured that stupidity often opens doors that lead to the solution of somewhat unsolvable problems or situations.
I once served as an Escort Officer for three very smart guys who were members of President Kennedy's THINK TANK (look it up) and while having too many drinks one night I offered a comment that induced one of the guys to say, "DAMN! You're dumb!", but one other Think Tank member said, "Fuck no! That is the answer to our problem!"
And from that point on all drinks and a decent dinner were paid by the President's Think Tank committee whose per diem was cosiderably higher than my own which was zero with two zeos behind it.
So sometimes dumbness (relative dumbness in this case) does pay off and we may actually be helping to solve the time travel problem without even realizjng it.
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First its politics, and now the meatheads are trying to figure out quantum physics.... ::)
proper physics is all that is neededed to create a living organism. one does not need to be carbon based either
one must be self replicating , having a permeable membrane to gather nutrients for replecation /survival. on other planets there is bound to be a "lucky" collage of say a plastic, a bacteria, metal ect creating the proper physics for a "living" inorganic self replicating lifeform
humans have proper physics, a permeable membrane and the ability to gather nutrients and can replecate much like my "model" above that exists out there
dont think that humans are the only possible creation based on physics
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When I eat too much curry, I have to get to the bathroom at lightspeed..
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proper physics is all that is neededed to create a living organism. one does not need to be carbon based either
one must be self replicating , having a permeable membrane to gather nutrients for replecation /survival. on other planets there is bound to be a "lucky" collage of say a plastic, a bacteria, metal ect creating the proper physics for a "living" inorganic self replicating lifeform
humans have proper physics, a permeable membrane and the ability to gather nutrients and can replecate much like my "model" above that exists out there
dont think that humans are the only possible creation based on physics
Look at me I can put Random Words together ::)
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proper physics is all that is neededed to create a living organism. one does not need to be carbon based either
one must be self replicating , having a permeable membrane to gather nutrients for replecation /survival. on other planets there is bound to be a "lucky" collage of say a plastic, a bacteria, metal ect creating the proper physics for a "living" inorganic self replicating lifeform
humans have proper physics, a permeable membrane and the ability to gather nutrients and can replecate much like my "model" above that exists out there
dont think that humans are the only possible creation based on physics
It should be `semi/permeable membrane`...... ::)
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It was once theorized that neutrinos could ONLY travel faster than light.not sure exactly when that theory went out of vogue, but since they were said to have no mass and no substance as we know it, they were not limited by the light speed limit, which stems from the E=Mc2 equality.
if "it" has no mass and no substance (which is redundant by the way) then "it" doesnt exist at all.
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if "it" has no mass and no substance (which is redundant by the way) then "it" doesnt exist at all.
tschlong, say hello to photon and gluon. Photon, gluon, say hello to tschlong.
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Travelling in time would destroy the whole equilibrium of the system of causes and consequences that underlies everything, so it cannot be possible. If you can travel in time, life has no meaning anymore as its meaning is based on the principle of causes and consequences.
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This could be interesting, but you have to explain it it little better
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I am in the process of attempting to explain 'Time Travel' and its association to Einestein's Theory of Relativity as simply as possible but I run into some difficulties at the end which I had no difficulty understanding late last nite after a couple of Margaritas.
But here is the start of my simple (hopefully) explanation.
Let's assume that Ron and Grant and Tommy Wishbone are on a very distant planet and have made plans to attend the 2012 IFBB Olympia in Las Vegas.
Let's also assume that they only have two ways to travel from that distant planet to Las Vegas.
One mode of travel is by way of hopping on a light particle (picture it as a bullet traveling at 186,000 miles per second) and the other method of travel is by hopping on a neutron which travels at a rate of speed much higher than the speed of light. (For simplicity let's assume that the speed of a neutron is 300,000 miles per second.)
Ron and Grant decide to depart that distant planet at the same time on the same day, but Ron will travel at the 186,000 miles per second mode of transportation on a light particle and Grant will travel at 300,000 miles per second via the neutron mode of travel.
They both depart the distant planet at the exact same time but who will arrive in Las Vegas first.
Of course Grant will arrive there first but since he is traveling faster than the speed of light, he will arrive in Las Vegas before he left that distant planet and way before Ron himself arrives.
But here is the problem I am having! What the hell happens from Ron's perspective when Tommy departs the next day after Ron has departed and what the hell happens from Grant's perspective when Tommy actually arrives in Las Vegas.
This is the kind of shit they ask you in pre-QM tests to see if you qualify for further education within the area of QM.... so I have b een told and i hope I explained it correctly.
The end but very confusing result is that each traveling participant experiences the end result (the arrival in Las Vegas) somewhat differently due to 'relativity'.
And that's where I get completely confused, but I have been told that if you can understand three moves ahead in the game of Chess, this sort of problem will be no problem at all for you.
Any clarification would be appreciated because life is almost unbearable without knowing all this shit.
There's one fundamental flaw with Time Travel and that is Human Nature. Humans are inately flawed. They cannot help themselves but to do things they shouldn't. As much as people believe that the military, CIA or FBI has this technology, just think of what one minor change in history has on the future. The fact is the past would be constantly changing and affecting the present. We'd already know about it.
People think the military is this arm of super intelligent beings. Not really. The majority of the military are young high school dropouts loooking for work. People think these guys are able to time travel and not let their natural instinct take over in changing something in the past.
If time travel ever gets created, the very first time someone goes back in time will change civilization and destroy everything around us. Just imagine someone going back to 1900 and leaving their iphone by mistake. Imagine what advances we'd have in technology today. Chances are humans would cease to exist.
Plus say you can travel back in time, how can you also travel back in time and to a specific destination? How would you be able to exist before you were ever born?
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MON, in an earlier post I mentioned something about a movie that was about time traveling into the past and asked if anyone knew the name of that movie. One Getbigger offer "Hot Tub Time Machine" but that wasn't the movie I was thinking of.
Now I think I've found it ..... 2005's .... A SOUND OF THUNDER .... When a hunter sent back to the prehistoric era runs off the path he must not leave, he causes a chain reaction that alters history in disastrous ways.
I think that there has been more than one film produced on this very subject but if I recall this movie correctly the hunter steps off the predetermined path while in the prehistoric past and steps on a butterfly and when he returns to the 'present' the world is completely changed and no way similar to the way it was when he originally left.
This idea is sometimes referred to as 'the butterfly effect' and I think that Ray Bradbury wrote a book on this very subject many years back and is often discussed within the scientific community.
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I do...leave the thread if you aren't interested instead of trolling
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MON, in an earlier post I mentioned something about a movie that was about time traveling into the past and asked if anyone knew the name of that movie. One Getbigger offer "Hot Tub Time Machine" but that wasn't the movie I was thinking of.
Now I think I've found it ..... 2005's .... A SOUND OF THUNDER .... When a hunter sent back to the prehistoric era runs off the path he must not leave, he causes a chain reaction that alters history in disastrous ways.
I think that there has been more than one film produced on this very subject but if I recall this movie correctly the hunter steps off the predetermined path while in the prehistoric past and steps on a butterfly and when he returns to the 'present' the world is completely changed and no way similar to the way it was when he originally left.
This idea is sometimes referred to as 'the butterfly effect' and I think that Ray Bradbury wrote a book on this very subject many years back and is often discussed within the scientific community.
Totally joking, stunt, with that title. Now that you mention it, tho, I have seen the movie that you mention. Game hunters pay a fee to be taken back with a guide to shoot dinosaurs? But they must stay on the walkways?
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mankind will disapear waaay before it finds out how to travel through time.
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I do...leave the thread if you aren't interested instead of trolling
Go to a physics forum so you can see how stupid you really are..This is a bodybuilding forum you moron
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Go to a physics forum so you can see how stupid you really are..This is a bodybuilding forum you moron
so why are you in this thread you fucking retard fag???....you just owned yourself
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mankind will disapear waaay before it finds out how to travel through time.
Yeah the going theory is that a more evolved form will replace us, some might call them the ubermench ::)
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so why are you in this thread you fucking retard fag???....you just owned yourself
I'm here to mock your stupidity of talking physics in a bodybuilding forum.
Nice meltdown btw ;D
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DOC, You are correct about that movie but I have to add that they could only kill dinoseurs that were going to die the next day ...political correctness or something ....from food poisoning after digesting a sweaty prehistoric bodybuilding.
I guess I do agree with XPAC2 a bit, so I had to stretch the 'truth' a little.
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Stunt...all the answers lie with the tachyon. It is the key to make the concept of a limited speed in the universe.
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a Shrink who finds us GetBiggers very interesting critters and has offered non-obligatory comments on more than a few GetBiggers he feels should undergo analysis.
Sounds like the kind of "guy" who can't wait to tell you all about his mother's penis. Gayer than fainting over pharaohs. ;D
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I am awaiting Falcon's take on all this.
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I'm here to mock your stupidity of talking physics in a bodybuilding forum.
Nice meltdown btw ;D
sigh..I don't understand how you owning yourself is a meltdown by me, but whatever....carry on with the dumbness
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CHOPPER, Funny .... but I am familiar with tachyon discussions because that was what was used to knock the Silver Surfer off his board in the Last Fantastic Four extravaganza. (I played a small part in making him fall so I know this tachyon shit!)
But I have another friend from Ireland who knows real stuff about tachyons (if they actually exist at all) and states that they might eventually solve the problem of real time (?) communications over extremely long distances throughout the galaxy.
That most likely means that you won't have to wait a year and a half for a response after saying, "Hello!" to Yoda.
And here is something he asked me to add ....
'Question - Why did the tachyon cross the road?
Answer - Because it was on the other side.'
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sigh..I don't understand how you owning yourself is a meltdown by me, but whatever....carry on with the dumbness
Ok andredisman ::) oh brother
will that be the name used on your nobel prize in physics? For your discussion of timetravel on getbig?
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Stunt...all the answers lie with the tachyon. It is the key to make the concept of a limited speed in the universe.
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Ok andredisman ::) oh brother
will that be the name used on your nobel prize in physics? For your discussion of timetravel on getbig?
we are all just having a nice whimsical conversation about time travel and the universe...what is wrong with that????...do you have to be an expert to talk about that???...what the fuck is wrong with your stupid dumb retarded ass???..just mind your business and move on you homo fuck retard
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hahahahaha nice meltdown buddy ;D
Bet you that's the exact same language Einstein or Hawking used....Do you even lift or do you just come here to talk about your amazing time travel theories? ::)
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one day you fellas will understand ,,mayeb you wotn ,, but one day humans will understand that it all been there before,, speed of light already been broken .....thats why we have time travel already for many years,,, part of ufo phenomenon is time travelers,, us from future,, there is tendency in human to go very slow and inject info very slow until human brain can digest,, well the time has come,, yuo see it now day slowly injected since 2000....everything go into the truth which is ...we are nto alone in the universe,, other planets have water.... and can be occupied by us humans and by other beings and are,,,there are many stars like the sun ,, there are many life forms,, and .....the biggest discovery of them all..... time travel is possible ,, dimentions are real ,, etc
its a matter of time,, most of us wont be alive ,, but time will reveal it all ,,
gh15 approved
You're a doodle there Gh15.
I'll bet you set the Delorian for the 1965 Olympia and will go back there and beat that Larry Scott huh.
Marty McFly can be your trainer and Einstine can be your mascot. Roll on !
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Tesla never got any credit.
Should have died a wealthy happy man but didn't.
Tesla was the greatest men on EM theory and application in history.
The guy invented all the AC systems in use today!
Horrible business man.
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it has existed for long time,, and liek everything,, like the hiv cure that already exist ....is in goverment hands,, and im not talkin president....im talkin PHARMA groups who control the military ....
you knwo the big pharma groups...their names? the fellas who stand as the presidents and ceo? thats! where the power sit..not the president
gh15 approved
I wanted to give you the benneft of the doubt on you having some genuine intellect and now this nonsense.
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hahahahaha nice meltdown buddy ;D
Bet you that's the exact same language Einstein or Hawking used....Do you even lift or do you just come here to talk about your amazing time travel theories? ::)
of course I lift....and I reserve that language for ignorant assholes that don't know what they are talking about...
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tschlong, say hello to photon and gluon. Photon, gluon, say hello to tschlong.
dongz outdoes himself again.
the irony here of such a materialistic explanation of the world coming from tdongz is mind-boggling.
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of course I lift....and I reserve that language for ignorant assholes that don't know what they are talking about...
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