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The SPEED OF LIGHT may have been broken.
« on: September 22, 2011, 12:52:15 PM »
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/22/science-light-idUSL5E7KM4CW20110922

UPDATE 1-Particles found to break speed of light



Wed, Sep 21 2011

By Robert Evans

GENEVA, Sept 22 (Reuters) - An international team of scientists said on Thursday they had recorded sub-atomic particles travelling faster than light -- a finding that could overturn one of Einstein's long-accepted fundamental laws of the universe.

Antonio Ereditato, spokesman for the researchers, told Reuters that measurements taken over three years showed neutrinos pumped from CERN near Geneva to Gran Sasso in Italy had arrived 60 nanoseconds quicker than light would have done.

"We have high confidence in our results. We have checked and rechecked for anything that could have distorted our measurements but we found nothing," he said. "We now want colleagues to check them independently."

If confirmed, the discovery would undermine Albert Einstein's 1905 theory of special relativity, which says that the speed of light is a "cosmic constant" and that nothing in the universe can travel faster.

That assertion, which has withstood over a century of testing, is one of the key elements of the so-called Standard Model of physics, which attempts to describe the way the universe and everything in it works.

The totally unexpected finding emerged from research by a physicists working on an experiment dubbed OPERA run jointly by the CERN particle research centre near Geneva and the Gran Sasso Laboratory in central Italy.

A total of 15,000 beams of neutrinos -- tiny particles that pervade the cosmos -- were fired over a period of 3 years from CERN towards Gran Sasso 730 (500 miles) km away, where they were picked up by giant detectors.

Light would have covered the distance in around 2.4 thousandths of a second, but the neutrinos took 60 nanoseconds -- or 60 billionths of a second -- less than light beams would have taken.

"It is a tiny difference," said Ereditato, who also works at Berne University in Switzerland, "but conceptually it is incredibly important. The finding is so startling that, for the moment, everybody should be very prudent."

Ereditato declined to speculate on what it might mean if other physicists, who will be officially informed of the discovery at a meeting in CERN on Friday, found that OPERA's measurements were correct.

"I just don't want to think of the implications," he told Reuters. "We are scientists and work with what we know."

Much science-fiction literature is based on the idea that, if the light-speed barrier can be overcome, time travel might theoretically become possible.

The existence of the neutrino, an elementary sub-atomic particle with a tiny amount of mass created in radioactive decay or in nuclear reactions such as those in the Sun, was first confirmed in 1934, but it still mystifies researchers.

It can pass through most matter undetected, even over long distances, and without being affected. Millions pass through the human body every day, scientists say.

To reach Gran Sasso, the neutrinos pushed out from a special installation at CERN -- also home to the Large Hadron Collider probing the origins of the universe -- have to pass through water, air and rock.

The underground Italian laboratory, some 120 km (75 miles) to the south of Rome, is the largest of its type in the world for particle physics and cosmic research.

Around 750 scientists from 22 different countries work there, attracted by the possibility of staging experiments in its three massive halls, protected from cosmic rays by some 1,400 metres (4,200 feet) of rock overhead.

(Reporting by Robert Evans; Editing by Tom Miles and Kevin Liffey)

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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 12:54:42 PM »
Well... that falls well as a dimensional error.... nothing to celebrate yet. Interesting though.

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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2011, 12:59:08 PM »
ya right prove it

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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2011, 12:59:35 PM »
Oh well, not like those particles would have composed Beethovens 5th anyway...

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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2011, 01:07:57 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2011, 01:10:04 PM »
You wouldn't be able to time anything faster.

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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2011, 01:10:26 PM »
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

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Re: BREAKING NEWS: The SPEED OF LIGHT may have been broken.
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2011, 01:14:07 PM »
NO NO NO!! LIGHT SPEED IS TOO SLOW!!


LIGHT SPEED TO SLOW  ???

YES!!


WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO RIGHT TO ......


LUDICROUS SPEED!!!!!!!!




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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2011, 01:14:31 PM »
What does this mean for time travel?
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2011, 01:15:14 PM »
I did a search about this and I found this article from 2007  ???:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-475587/Scientists-break-speed-light.html

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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2011, 01:15:55 PM »
maybe palin was right about the planet only being 6000 years old, after all ???

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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2011, 01:36:12 PM »
I thought this was going to be a thread about Kevin Levrone's sprinting career.

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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2011, 01:40:12 PM »
Pics or I'm calling bullshit.

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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2011, 01:41:49 PM »
How do we measure the speed in which Phil Heath is brought down to reality by losing the Dubai, India Pro?

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Re: BREAKING NEWS: The SPEED OF LIGHT may have been broken.
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2011, 01:43:39 PM »
Adam, this is old news, you already did this under the pecan tree a few months back, don't you remember?
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« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2011, 01:44:04 PM »
What does this mean for time travel?


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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2011, 01:48:08 PM »
I was not aware of this. Exciting times ahead.
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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2011, 02:29:28 PM »
You wouldn't be able to time anything faster.

Look at professor coltrane here.  They don't time it with a video camera and stopwatch retard.

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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2011, 02:30:50 PM »
i'm sure some random article will be the first to break this earth shattering news

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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2011, 02:31:02 PM »
Oh shit, I didn't see this thread, wouldn't have made another if I did

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« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2011, 02:31:45 PM »


Can't wait to see this on ESPN  ::)  ::)

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« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2011, 02:34:06 PM »
one day you fellas will understand ,,mayeb you wotn ,, but one day humans will understand that it all been there before,, speed of light already been broken .....thats why we have time travel already for many years,,, part of ufo phenomenon is time travelers,, us from future,, there is tendency in human to go very slow and inject info very slow until human brain can digest,, well the time has come,, yuo see it now day slowly injected since 2000....everything go into the truth which is ...we are nto alone in the universe,, other planets have water.... and can be occupied by us humans and by other beings and are,,,there are many stars like the sun ,, there are many life forms,, and .....the biggest discovery of them all..... time travel is possible ,, dimentions are real ,, etc

its a matter of time,, most of us wont be alive ,, but time will reveal it all ,,

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« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2011, 02:36:12 PM »
maybe palin was right about the planet only being 6000 years old, after all ???
earth might have been TERRAFORMED by our creators, thus making life possible. Dates are misunderstandings. We know very very few about our past, that's a fact.

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Naming the light, Day, and the dark, Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.   

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« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2011, 02:36:45 PM »
one day you fellas will understand ,,mayeb you wotn ,, but one day humans will understand that it all been there before,, speed of light already been broken .....thats why we have time travel already for many years,,, part of ufo phenomenon is time travelers,, us from future,, there is tendency in human to go very slow and inject info very slow until human brain can digest,, well the time has come,, yuo see it now day slowly injected since 2000....everything go into the truth which is ...we are nto alone in the universe,, other planets have water.... and can be occupied by us humans and by other beings and are,,,there are many stars like the sun ,, there are many life forms,, and .....the biggest discovery of them all..... time travel is possible ,, dimentions are real ,, etc

its a matter of time,, most of us wont be alive ,, but time will reveal it all ,,

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« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2011, 02:38:13 PM »
one day you fellas will understand ,,mayeb you wotn ,, but one day humans will understand that it all been there before,, speed of light already been broken .....thats why we have time travel already for many years,,, part of ufo phenomenon is time travelers,, us from future,, there is tendency in human to go very slow and inject info very slow until human brain can digest,, well the time has come,, yuo see it now day slowly injected since 2000....everything go into the truth which is ...we are nto alone in the universe,, other planets have water.... and can be occupied by us humans and by other beings and are,,,there are many stars like the sun ,, there are many life forms,, and .....the biggest discovery of them all..... time travel is possible ,, dimentions are real ,, etc

its a matter of time,, most of us wont be alive ,, but time will reveal it all ,,

gh15 approved

if time travel were to ever exist we would all already know about it.  think about it.  ;)