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Title: Is cocaine or speed good to lose fat?
Post by: ironneck on November 07, 2011, 05:20:16 PM
not that i'm doing this but it would be interesting to know...

do you lose lots of muscles too?
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: goomba420 on November 07, 2011, 05:23:20 PM
worked for zyzz  8)
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 07, 2011, 05:24:30 PM
i mean we all sniff that shit from time to time  ;D

i talk about doing this for lets say straight 2 weeks or so, one or two lines a day
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on November 07, 2011, 05:34:47 PM
I'm more interested in knowing his thoughts on booz
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on November 07, 2011, 05:37:43 PM
Ask Dov, that man knows
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Borracho on November 07, 2011, 05:39:24 PM
i mean we all sniff that shit from time to time  ;D

i talk about doing this for lets say straight 2 weeks or so, one or two lines a day

How often you doing blow and how much at a time?
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on November 07, 2011, 05:42:05 PM
I have some buds who had hard times stopping that shit, some of the fattest fuckers I know. Metabolism is fucked
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: g101 on November 07, 2011, 05:49:48 PM
gh15 is against narcotics ..
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: whitewidow on November 07, 2011, 05:51:27 PM
Yes it will cutt into your muscles horrible idea. havn't you ever seen a meth or coke addict? they are always bone thin with no muscle. worst idea you could think of. it will also raise your blood pressure and heart rate and you could have a heart attack when working out. it does not take long to get hooked on either drug. plus a bodybuilder needs to sleep drugs like cocaine and meth are bound to keep you up if you do sleep you are not getting good quality rem sleep. even if you just use it for a few days to a week its not a good idea. just stick to tren acetate and do more cardio. their are many other ways to lose fat without using coke or meth. if you have trouble doin g cardiio when you are on tren then before you go into your cycle do alot of cardio and get lean then start your cycle. if your still holding water use a diuretic , the HGH and tren should shed most of the fat along with some cardio.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 07, 2011, 05:55:01 PM
it was just theorotical, i know it's not good

i guess it's good one day before a show cause u loose lots of water
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 07, 2011, 05:56:00 PM
How often you doing blow and how much at a time?

don't know maybe once a month or so for good parties
2gr
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: apply85 on November 07, 2011, 05:57:40 PM
this is how some ballerinas kept their weight down, i'm sure fitness girls do it for that reason too lol  ::)
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 07, 2011, 06:06:04 PM
right now i'm only on ephedrine :D haha should make some meth out of it

how bout krokodil? i think u weigh less if you lose some bodyparts?  :D
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Bam-bam on November 07, 2011, 06:10:59 PM
what about aids, I heard it burns fat like crazy too
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 07, 2011, 06:13:35 PM
what about aids, I heard it burns lot of fat too

tbombz still looks fat?
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: abijahmaniaco on November 07, 2011, 06:27:33 PM
not that i'm doing this but it would be interesting to know...
do you lose lots of muscles too?

lol "it's not for me... it's for a friend" ;) ;)
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: makaveli25 on November 07, 2011, 06:32:31 PM
Fuck that man I use to do it once in awhile years ago. When I woke up the next morning I swear that shit burned off 5 pounds of muscle. Complete garbage. My roomate in college was prescribed adderall I swear that shit made him loose 40-50 pounds it completely changed him. It turned him into an asshole!
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: aesthetics on November 07, 2011, 06:33:00 PM
Yes it will cutt into your muscles horrible idea. havn't you ever seen a meth or coke addict? they are always bone thin with no muscle. worst idea you could think of. it will also raise your blood pressure and heart rate and you could have a heart attack when working out. it does not take long to get hooked on either drug. plus a bodybuilder needs to sleep drugs like cocaine and meth are bound to keep you up if you do sleep you are not getting good quality rem sleep. even if you just use it for a few days to a week its not a good idea. just stick to tren acetate and do more cardio. their are many other ways to lose fat without using coke or meth. if you have trouble doin g cardiio when you are on tren then before you go into your cycle do alot of cardio and get lean then start your cycle. if your still holding water use a diuretic , the HGH and tren should shed most of the fat along with some cardio.

high dose tren makes you feel like you are practically on cocaine lol
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: makaveli25 on November 07, 2011, 06:46:30 PM
Fuck tren all the talk about tren shit is disgusting if you get bad sides. I swear it sucked the serotonin right out of my brain. I was the most depressed I've ever been on that stuff.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Bam-bam on November 07, 2011, 06:58:21 PM
But did it work man?
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: makaveli25 on November 07, 2011, 07:06:25 PM
But did it work man?

Ya works but it ruined my life for six months!
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: gh15 on November 07, 2011, 07:07:43 PM
Ya works but it ruined my life for six months!

shoudl have aded gh...as i walways say gh cancel sides of other aas,, gh always > aas sides

gh15 approved
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: biff on November 07, 2011, 07:08:07 PM
didnt cormier inject the shit and play videogames for contest prep?
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: abijahmaniaco on November 07, 2011, 07:11:50 PM
Fuck tren all the talk about tren shit is disgusting if you get bad sides. I swear it sucked the serotonin right out of my brain. I was the most depressed I've ever been on that stuff.

how much tren were you taking?
i'm on 300mg of ace a week and lovin' it.

didnt cormier inject the shit and play videogames for contest prep?

wasted potential like most blacks.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: makaveli25 on November 07, 2011, 07:16:01 PM
how much tren were you taking?
i'm on 300mg of ace a week and lovin' it.

wasted potential like most blacks.

I started with 50mg eod then went up to 100mg eod. I was living a bad lifestyle though. I was drinking a lot on the weekends partying to much. I used to much test so I was extremely bloated made the sides worse. I will try again but get in very good shape before I start and have everything in my life in order first.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: abijahmaniaco on November 07, 2011, 07:19:20 PM
I started with 50mg eod then went up to 100mg eod. I was living a bad lifestyle though. I was drinking a lot on the weekends partying to much. I used to much test so I was extremely bloated made the sides worse. I will try again but get in very good shape before I start and have everything in my life in order first.

yeah, i don't drink, smoke, party or do any rec drugs and i make vegetable juice three days a week. ;D
what kind of bodybuilder are you anyway if you have a social life?! ;)
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: dyslexic on November 07, 2011, 07:19:36 PM
Does anyone here ever try staying straight? How about even thinking about it?


Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: gh15 on November 07, 2011, 07:20:13 PM
in regard to main question,,i wont sit here and lie to you ,, when you reach the numbers profesional bodybuild is and even top amatuers,,i will just say this lightly with out going into too much detail ...but narcotics is common,, its not used nesasrily for fat drop ...it used to be able to function in society ...yes you hear this right,,it is used to shake you out of the slowish and tirdness th eover dose and over use of hormone does to you ,,

due to hgh...the need today of narcotics is minimized,,,buit! it is stil there among the fellas who use LOWER gh doses and high aas,,again not every bodybuild...but just look around you ...most bodybuild that come to your gymnasium 250 8% 5'8...they are high ... they are always high always in high high look in the eyes ,,they ususly the city club bouncers...or the city xtazy dealer in addition to other things,, usualy many felonies and arresnt mainly domoestic violence and drug related,,

also narotic use is for pain ,, to work through the pain ,, bodybuikld who did less gh back in the past....used to have more narcotics in the arsenal....now day the use of narcotic is still there but due to the enormous abuse of gh today its lower,,

when someone take 20-30 iu gh a day ,,they are the DEFINITION OF THE WORD SUPERMAN...so no need for no narcotics,,but! as with always bodybuild pull into it narcotics addict from before ...see around you mike arneld that doesnt even look like bodybuilder...but many bodybuilder in locals they come to it from narcotics past,, you heard about jewbaca and many others,, jewbaca is actualy good case,, very good fella..but many many fall an die from this ,,they realize it too late,, and the poor hormones are being blamed while in reality you had there a narcotics addict that all his problems started due to the narcotics addicition


from monica...to chris and inbetween and also tons of amatuers,,

i do not support narcotics in bodybuild period,, that included nubain I DO NOT SUPOORT IT!,, i just say increase hgh ,, take as much as you can and dont touch that cursed narcotics

gh15 approved
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: gh15 on November 07, 2011, 07:22:45 PM
I started with 50mg eod then went up to 100mg eod. I was living a bad lifestyle though. I was drinking a lot on the weekends partying to much. I used to much test so I was extremely bloated made the sides worse. I will try again but get in very good shape before I start and have everything in my life in order first.

there you go! this is why,, you cant party on those aas like trenbolona ace,, they are very effective and eficient in what they do ,, trenbolona ace is to respect and give utmost respct to ,, if you dont! you will suffer....not health wize as you wont drop dead form it persay but! mental wize....you will lose your mind on trenbolona ace if you party and drink like crazy ,, you will become a very very sick in the head fella

gh15 approved
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: makaveli25 on November 07, 2011, 07:25:12 PM
in regard to main question,,i wont sit here and lie to you ,, when you reach the numbers profesional bodybuild is and even top amatuers,,i will just say this lightly with out going into too much detail ...but narcotics is common,, its not used nesasrily for fat drop ...it used to be able to function in society ...yes you hear this right,,it is used to shake you out of the slowish and tirdness th eover dose and over use of hormone does to you ,,

due to hgh...the need today of narcotics is minimized,,,buit! it is stil there among the fellas who use LOWER gh doses and high aas,,again not every bodybuild...but just look around you ...most bodybuild that come to your gymnasium 250 8% 5'8...they are high ... they are always high always in high high look in the eyes ,,they ususly the city club bouncers...or the city xtazy dealer in addition to other things,, usualy many felonies and arresnt mainly domoestic violence and drug related,,

also narotic use is for pain ,, to work through the pain ,, bodybuikld who did less gh back in the past....used to have more narcotics in the arsenal....now day the use of narcotic is still there but due to the enormous abuse of gh today its lower,,

when someone take 20-30 iu gh a day ,,they are the DEFINITION OF THE WORD SUPERMAN...so no need for no narcotics,,but! as with always bodybuild pull into it narcotics addict from before ...see around you mike arneld that doesnt even look like bodybuilder...but many bodybuilder in locals they come to it from narcotics past,, you heard about jewbaca and many others,, jewbaca is actualy good case,, very good fella..but many many fall an die from this ,,they realize it too late,, and the poor hormones are being blamed while in reality you had there a narcotics addict that all his problems started due to the narcotics addicition


from monica...to chris and inbetween and also tons of amatuers,,

i do not support narcotics in bodybuild period,, that included nubain I DO NOT SUPOORT IT!,, i just say increase hgh ,, take as much as you can and dont touch that cursed narcotics

gh15 approved

Good post gh. I saw a lot of my friends go through bad pain killer addiction. It's the biggest epidemic of my generation. Highschool kids into heavy heavy painkiller abuse it's pretty sad.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: L.L on November 07, 2011, 07:54:05 PM
whats the big deal with Tren sides?  yeah , the do exist but i think  they're  overrated. Fucking kids trying a man's drug.  ;D...how the fuck you cannot control tren sides? im fine at 500 mgs weekly ..stay with Anavar you pussies and let the TREN  to the grown and sexy.  ;D
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: booty on November 07, 2011, 07:56:11 PM
What's a social life?   :D
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: L.L on November 07, 2011, 07:57:08 PM
What's a social life?   :D

like when  we go to the bar , drink a couple of Fosters and then you blow me..that social life. ;)
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Galvatron on November 07, 2011, 07:57:29 PM
What's a social life?   :D


how much do you squat
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Borracho on November 07, 2011, 08:21:12 PM
who the hell is Jewbaca?

And Ironneck, don't let that shit become more regular. You know this but this is how everyone starts.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: booty on November 07, 2011, 08:55:05 PM
like when  we go to the bar , drink a couple of Fosters and then you blow me..that social life. ;)
Well I don't need a social life then.   8)
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Fitness4Life on November 07, 2011, 09:41:05 PM
whats the big deal with Tren sides?  yeah , the do exist but i think  they're  overrated. Fucking kids trying a man's drug.  ;D...how the fuck you cannot control tren sides? im fine at 500 mgs weekly ..stay with Anavar you pussies and let the TREN  to the grown and sexy.  ;D

I'm doing just fine on a gram a week of tren ace lol.  My sleep is the only thing that's beyond fucked, FUCKED!
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Spicoli on November 07, 2011, 10:34:06 PM
Sleep? What is this thing you speak of?
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: theheman on November 07, 2011, 10:46:29 PM
I started with 50mg eod then went up to 100mg eod. I was living a bad lifestyle though. I was drinking a lot on the weekends partying to much.

I like to quote Arnold Schwarzenegger from the squatting scene with Ed Corney from Pumping Iron, "Get serious."  Really dude if you're going to invest this much into drugs to build muscles it doesn't make sense to do something like drinking.  I could understand smoking a blunt here and there but alcohol makes no sense.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Super Natural on November 08, 2011, 12:10:06 AM
Don't be so fucking lazy - diet harder, do your fucking cardio.

A good friend of mine just hung himself yesterday morning after going on a coke binge. There were other factors involved but IMO coke pushed him over the edge and down a dark road.

Yeah, Cocaine is a hellva drug  >:(
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: booty on November 08, 2011, 12:19:00 AM
Don't be so fucking lazy - diet harder, do your fucking cardio.

A good friend of mine just hung himself yesterday morning after going on a coke binge. There were other factors involved but IMO coke pushed him over the edge and down a dark road.

Yeah, Cocaine is a hellva drug  >:(
I'm so sorry for your loss.   :(  RIP
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: gh15 on November 08, 2011, 12:24:12 AM
Don't be so fucking lazy - diet harder, do your fucking cardio.

A good friend of mine just hung himself yesterday morning after going on a coke binge. There were other factors involved but IMO coke pushed him over the edge and down a dark road.

Yeah, Cocaine is a hellva drug  >:(

i hate narocitcs,, i have seen with my own eyes all those years fellas that grew up with me falling down to narcotics all bodybuild all wanted to be the best all fell harder than a rock,,every year new fellas to the list every year i stay more alone ,, they all fall then you look back and you see you were left alone ,,so many along the years...even from the internet boardings swole cat and mass with class both were great fellas,, mass with class used to talk to me daily DAILY telling me how he will get places and all in bodybuilding ,, long time has passed but their work go on on the boardings....

gh15 approved
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 08, 2011, 12:36:38 AM
i pretty resistan to narcotics so i don' get addicted, my weak point is gambling  ;D
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 08, 2011, 12:40:38 AM
nothing in this world is more fun than fucking a bitch on speed, coke or x
believe me, nothing tops that!
the only shitty thing is that "normal" sex isn't as attractive as before then
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Xerxes on November 08, 2011, 12:40:51 AM
Bro :D cmon no need for a coke binge to get ripped, you've been ripped before.. you know what to do..
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: gh15 on November 08, 2011, 12:43:17 AM
nothing in this world is more fun than fucking a bitch on speed, coke or x
believe me, nothing tops that!
the only shitty thing is that "normal" sex isn't as attractive as before then

nothign in the world is more sad,, than to walk in gymnasium and hear this fella pass away an dthat fella pass away and you think to yourslef ...damn im the only bodybuuld who survived ,, you feel you won but you won what?  the last walking bodybuild in gymnasium ...its not good feeling

gh15 approved
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 08, 2011, 01:01:34 AM
Bro :D cmon no need for a coke binge to get ripped, you've been ripped before.. you know what to do..

bro i am getting ripped without! i training hard and dieting hard right now! it was just a question

i'm only using ephedrine right now, no other things
maybe here and there a protein shake
but when i'm down to 6-7% BF again i want to do a testo ot tren cycle

my goal after that cycle would be 85-86 @ 6% BG, that would crush dem small fuckers
right now withoud drugs i gues i have to drop to 78-79kg in order to be at 8%...that's a bit too small for my taste, and i figured the winter time would be perfect to let the trenbolona run wild
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 08, 2011, 01:03:26 AM
nothign in the world is more sad,, than to walk in gymnasium and hear this fella pass away an dthat fella pass away and you think to yourslef ...damn im the only bodybuuld who survived ,, you feel you won but you won what?  the last walking bodybuild in gymnasium ...its not good feeling

gh15 approved


ok you may be the god of hormones but i'm god of narcotics

speed never ever would kill u, just like x!
your fellas die cause they mix all the drugs in the world
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: gh15 on November 08, 2011, 01:07:22 AM
actualy speed killed couple of them ,, yes

gh15 approved
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 08, 2011, 01:11:10 AM
actualy speed killed couple of them ,, yes

gh15 approved

never ever!

they must sniff rat poison or something
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: gh15 on November 08, 2011, 01:12:52 AM
never ever!

they must sniff rat poison or something

it was speed friend,, it ws speed,, you are young and goolible ,, they died from speed,,now they did crazy usage but they died from it

gh15 approved
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 08, 2011, 01:17:21 AM
was they sniffing like 20gr a day or what

everything can kill u if you abuse it to the max
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: wes on November 08, 2011, 01:24:33 AM
Any idiot that uses coke to get lean,is an idiot.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: gh15 on November 08, 2011, 01:31:46 AM
was they sniffing like 20gr a day or what

everything can kill u if you abuse it to the max

ofcourse they abused it duh,, this along with other things....like diuretics like insulina like pain killers,, but! in this cases they wee only on speed when died then again ABUSED IT,, but any rec drug is just taking toll on your life im telling you ,, if you are bodybuilder ..rec drugs not good ,, infact if you are anythign ...rec drugs are just finishing yuor life

gh15 approved
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: whitewidow on November 08, 2011, 01:59:56 AM
was they sniffing like 20gr a day or what

everything can kill u if you abuse it to the max

I know a good deal about narcotics and what GH15's buddys were using was crystal meth! see there is a diffrence between meth and crystal meth. meth is just cheap trailer made garbage low quality and purity. pure crytal meth is usually  expensive comes in shards( like broken glass chunks) and is usually made in a mexican super lab and can be super pure. breaking bad pure 98%. if somebody uses a strong batch and uses to much their heart can actually explode. I have heard of this happening. ecstasy is a great drug if you use it on the weekend once or twice a year with your girlfriend but it should never be used more than a few times a year as it will seriously fuck up your serotonin levels. I think it is a safer drug than crystal meth and coke I believe it is more clean especially if its from amsterdam wich most of it is. crystal meth and coke have no place in bodybuilding but if you are having trouble sleeping on tren even if you are using HGH I think using xanax in a minimum dose at night is not that bad for you. it is addictive but not as bad for you as nubain or GHB. and it cannot be injected wich makes it less dangerous.


 I would say even stay away from xanax or valium if you can but sometimes I use them to sleep if I am on tren and cannot sleep. HGH dosnt make me as tired as it used to. as far as painkillers like oxyconin or oxycodone I would stay far away! I know as a bodybuilder you can blow discs or herniate discs and it can be very painful! you go see the doctor and they give you oxycontin or oxycodone within a few weeks you will be addicted and you will need more and more to get pain relief. I was driving and got hit by a drunk driver fractured my spine T12 to be exact plus I already had disc herniations I was hurting from but just taking tylenol PM to control the pain and sleep, but for this spine fracture I needed oyxcontin and oxycodone for breakthrough pain and my dosage went up almost every month as did the amount of pills I got. see on schedule 2 medications you have to go in to see the doctor every month no calling in a refill dosn't work like that with schedule 2 narcotics like oxycodone(roxicodone) no way I could train without it. my back is that fcked. I use 240mg roxicodone daily 8-30mg tabs a day! so some situations you cant win and have to use pain medication. now some people just use it when they have nothing wrong with them and get hooked quick! especially to 30mg roxicodone.

 to anybody who reads this stay away from opiate pain medications unless you really need them because you will get HOOKED. give it 2 weeks and you will be having withdrawals if you use it everyday for 2 weeks and stop cold turkey without tapering off. You can still train and make gains on painkillers but coke and crytal meth have no use in bodybuilding either does ecstasy thats just a drug you use once in a blue moon with your girlfriend. if a bodybuilder needs a wake up call they are actually weak minded. you dont even need to be using 20-30IU's of HGH of course that would help but you should be able to fight through those times when you feel like you are tired and need a wake-up call. drink a redline. No Bodybuilder will ever get anywhere in this sport using blow or ice.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: wes on November 08, 2011, 02:08:42 AM
I know a good deal about narcotics and what GH15's buddys were using was crystal meth! see there is a diffrence between meth and crystal meth. meth is just cheap trailer made garbage low quality and purity. pure crytal meth is usually  expensive comes in shards( like broken glass chunks) and is usually made in a mexican super lab and can be super pure. breaking bad pure 98%. if somebody uses a strong batch and uses to much their heart can actually explode. I have heard of this happening. ecstasy is a great drug if you use it on the weekend once or twice a year with your girlfriend but it should never be used more than a few times a year as it will seriously fuck up your serotonin levels. I think it is a safer drug than crystal meth and coke I believe it is more clean especially if its from amsterdam wich most of it is. crystal meth and coke have no place in bodybuilding but if you are having trouble sleeping on tren even if you are using HGH I think using xanax in a minimum dose at night is not that bad for you. it is addictive but not as bad for you as nubain or GHB. and it cannot be injected wich makes it less dangerous. I would say even stay away from xanax or valium if you can but sometimes I use them to sleep if I am on tren and cannot sleep. HGH dosnt make me as tired as it used to. as far as painkillers like oxyconin or oxycodone I would stay far away! I know as a bodybuilder you can blow discs or herniate discs and it can be very painful! you go see the doctor and they give you oxycontin or oxycodone within a few weeks you will be addicted and you will need more and more to get pain relief. I was driving and got hit by a drunk driver fractured my spine T12 to be exact plus I already had disc herniations I was hurting from but just taking tylenol PM to control the pain and sleep, but for this spine fracture I needed oyxcontin and oxycodone for breakthrough pain and my dosage went up almost every month as did the amount of pills I got. see on schedule 2 medications you have to go in to see the doctor every month no calling in a refill dosn't work like that with schedule 2 narcotics like oxycodone(roxicodone) no way I could train without it. my back is that fcked. I use 240mg roxicodone daily 8-30mg tabs a day! so some situations you cant win and have to use pain medication. now some people just use it when they have nothing wrong with them and get hooked quick! especially to 30mg roxicodone. to anybody who reads this stay away from opiate pain medications unless you really need them because you will get HOOKED. give it 2 weeks and you will be having withdrawals if you use it everyday for 2 weeks and stop cold turkey without tapering off. You can still train and make gains on painkillers but coke and crytal meth have no use in bodybuilding either dose ecstasy thats just a drug you use once in a blue moon with your girlfriend. if a bodybuilder needs a wake up call they are actually weak minded. you dont even need to be using 20-30IU's of HGH of course that would help but you should be able to fight through those times when you feel like you are tired and need a wake-up call. drink a redline. No Bodybuilder will ever get anywhere in this sport using blow or ice.
Paragraphs please......nobody can read that shit bro.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: whitewidow on November 08, 2011, 02:39:08 AM
Paragraphs please......nobody can read that shit bro.


ok just for you wes :-\
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: wes on November 08, 2011, 02:40:15 AM
I`m not trying to be an asshole,but that`s very hard to read.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: whitewidow on November 08, 2011, 02:50:16 AM
I`m not trying to be an asshole,but that`s very hard to read.

even after I changed it? I know I typed it quick.I didnt realize how long my rant was.  But it should be legible now. ???
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: wes on November 08, 2011, 02:53:38 AM
Thanks!! :)
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: dyslexic on November 08, 2011, 02:55:15 AM
Well, I know this is "supposed" to be a bodybuilding board, but if you want to think for one second that Meth alone can't or will not kill you, you are sadly mistaken.

I grew up in the trucking industry.


Many of the drivers that were having the time of their lives hustlin' up and the down the highways and doin their speed, well, they are gone now. Their kids are grown, wives had already left them, and these guys would have been my age now. Much like Gh15 stated, they left me alone out there. They originally ran circles around me, and then they got slower and slower and eventually slept more than they drove. They could do a bag and eat and then sleep. Sure, many of them smoked also, but the point is that THE DRUG CONSUMED THEIR LIVES. In the beginning they wouldn't eat or sleep for days.


Ultimately it was the Meth that killed them. I don't really care what "kind" it was, and in they end, neither did they.


I've never really seen a drug so addicting in the respect that it tears someone down to nothing very quickly, it makes them delusional, they become mental, they lose everything, not just monetarily, but their self-respect, and they STILL CAN'T QUIT!


The women? That drug takes its toll on them even faster. It can make a 25 year old female look 60 in about a year or so.


Nasty drug. I just sat back and watched. There was nothing I could do. The things that came out of their mouths were so far fetched there was no use in responding or hanging around them. Besides, they were always paranoid. Very paranoid.


You don't meet too many "ex" meth-heads. They don't seem to make it very far in this life.


I don't think it's just *bodybuilders* that are weak minded... it's people
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on November 08, 2011, 02:56:55 AM
wasted potential like most blacks.

what the hell are you talking about? He was top 5 at the olympia and partied his ass off and actually had fun with his career, unless the guys who never socialized and just did bodybuilding 24/7. Cormier did it right
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 08, 2011, 08:32:47 AM
ah ok now i know where the problem is!
you dumb fuckers think speed is meth :D
speed is nowhere near as dangerous as meth, even alcohol and nicotine are more dangerous than xtase and speed

Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: abijahmaniaco on November 08, 2011, 10:22:26 AM
what the hell are you talking about? He was top 5 at the olympia and partied his ass off and actually had fun with his career, unless the guys who never socialized and just did bodybuilding 24/7. Cormier did it right

keyword there was "potential". gh15 said he could have been mr. o.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: BOW on November 08, 2011, 12:50:08 PM
worked for zyzz  8)
yeah and now hes zzzz...
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: hematocritter on November 08, 2011, 02:24:55 PM
I used to be addicted to IV cocaine.
I lived in a place where it was pure and easy to get, even socially accepted. Shooting it was not though.
There is nothing quite like the feeling of pure cocaine injected IV, feels like being in a euphoric train tunnel heaven for just seconds, with ears ringing pleasurably and every muscle in your face tingling and tightening......then you want to dose more and more until you run out.
I never had that issue with snorting coke. Just IV. 

They say there are no IV coke addicts.... they are all dead.

I can see why. The last time I did it, I shot 60mg in one arm, and must have missed the vein. Didn't feel much, so I shot 60 in the other side. I guess the first one leaked into the bloodstream almost instantly after mainlining the 2nd, so I got 120mg of pure blow in my blood at the same time. I could literally see my heart beating out of my chest, I thought I was going to die. I poured $500 worth of coke down the sink after that, and never touched it again.

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: wes on November 08, 2011, 02:26:45 PM
I used to be addicted to IV cocaine.
I lived in a place where it was pure and easy to get, even socially accepted. Shooting it was not though.
There is nothing quite like the feeling of pure cocaine injected IV, feels like being in a euphoric train tunnel heaven for just seconds, with ears ringing pleasurably and every muscle in your face tingling and tightening......then you want to dose more and more until you run out.
I never had that issue with snorting coke. Just IV. 

They say there are no IV coke addicts.... they are all dead.

I can see why. The last time I did it, I shot 60mg in one arm, and must have missed the vein. Didn't feel much, so I shot 60 in the other side. I guess the first one leaked into the bloodstream almost instantly after mainlining the 2nd, so I got 120mg of pure blow in my blood at the same time. I could literally see my heart beating out of my chest, I thought I was going to die. I poured $500 worth of coke down the sink after that, and never touched it again.

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
Been there done that........not a pleasant existance.

Props for getting clean bro.  :)
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Borracho on November 08, 2011, 02:28:58 PM
I used to be addicted to IV cocaine.
I lived in a place where it was pure and easy to get, even socially accepted. Shooting it was not though.
There is nothing quite like the feeling of pure cocaine injected IV, feels like being in a euphoric train tunnel heaven for just seconds, with ears ringing pleasurably and every muscle in your face tingling and tightening......then you want to dose more and more until you run out.
I never had that issue with snorting coke. Just IV. 

They say there are no IV coke addicts.... they are all dead.

I can see why. The last time I did it, I shot 60mg in one arm, and must have missed the vein. Didn't feel much, so I shot 60 in the other side. I guess the first one leaked into the bloodstream almost instantly after mainlining the 2nd, so I got 120mg of pure blow in my blood at the same time. I could literally see my heart beating out of my chest, I thought I was going to die. I poured $500 worth of coke down the sink after that, and never touched it again.

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

Lotta people just keep going after going through something like that. Glad you were able to quit.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 08, 2011, 02:32:22 PM
just snort it dammit
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Borracho on November 08, 2011, 02:35:56 PM
just snort it dammit

Only so much that can go up comfortably up your nose. Some look for other methods...not all, some. And don't think people haven't over dosed from snorting it.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: wes on November 08, 2011, 02:36:03 PM
just snort it dammit
Not even close to the same high bro.

Best bet is to stay clean and sober if you start to develop bad habits with booze or drugs.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Swlabr on November 08, 2011, 02:37:31 PM
I'll stick to mushrooms and weed for now. Mushroom-weed combo is hard to beat.  8)
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: wes on November 08, 2011, 02:40:48 PM
I'll stick to mushrooms and weed for now. Mushroom-weed combo is hard to beat.  8)
Have some for me dude!  :)
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Swlabr on November 08, 2011, 02:42:36 PM
Have some for me dude!  :)

You've never had 60 mushrooms and smoked weed just as you start tripping from the mushrooms? :o
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: wes on November 08, 2011, 03:41:07 PM
You've never had 60 mushrooms and smoked weed just as you start tripping from the mushrooms? :o
I don`t remember ???  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on November 08, 2011, 03:54:27 PM
keyword there was "potential". gh15 said he could have been mr. o.

ehh I have a hard time believing it. If he did, then yea he would be more of a historic figure. But if not, then the man was a great bodybuilder and had the time of his life doing it.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: abijahmaniaco on November 08, 2011, 04:11:10 PM
Paragraphs please......nobody can read that shit bro.

yeah, i just scroll right past stuff like that.
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ChristopherA on November 08, 2011, 04:25:52 PM
I'll stick to mushrooms and weed for now. Mushroom-weed combo is hard to beat.  8)
X and special K. Like peanutbutter and jelly. Best high ever, no contest
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 08, 2011, 06:42:08 PM
i never did mushrooms

i smoke weed, take speed cocaine x and other mdma

BUT everything maybe once a month
it can be that i do it a month more often and then the other month i dont touch anything

alcohol right now also very rarely, the only thing right now i'm on on a daily basis is ephedrine and nicotine
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 08, 2011, 07:07:23 PM
I know a good deal about narcotics and what GH15's buddys were using was crystal meth! see there is a diffrence between meth and crystal meth. meth is just cheap trailer made garbage low quality and purity. pure crytal meth is usually  expensive comes in shards( like broken glass chunks) and is usually made in a mexican super lab and can be super pure. breaking bad pure 98%. if somebody uses a strong batch and uses to much their heart can actually explode. I have heard of this happening. ecstasy is a great drug if you use it on the weekend once or twice a year with your girlfriend but it should never be used more than a few times a year as it will seriously fuck up your serotonin levels. I think it is a safer drug than crystal meth and coke I believe it is more clean especially if its from amsterdam wich most of it is. crystal meth and coke have no place in bodybuilding but if you are having trouble sleeping on tren even if you are using HGH I think using xanax in a minimum dose at night is not that bad for you. it is addictive but not as bad for you as nubain or GHB. and it cannot be injected wich makes it less dangerous.


 I would say even stay away from xanax or valium if you can but sometimes I use them to sleep if I am on tren and cannot sleep. HGH dosnt make me as tired as it used to. as far as painkillers like oxyconin or oxycodone I would stay far away! I know as a bodybuilder you can blow discs or herniate discs and it can be very painful! you go see the doctor and they give you oxycontin or oxycodone within a few weeks you will be addicted and you will need more and more to get pain relief. I was driving and got hit by a drunk driver fractured my spine T12 to be exact plus I already had disc herniations I was hurting from but just taking tylenol PM to control the pain and sleep, but for this spine fracture I needed oyxcontin and oxycodone for breakthrough pain and my dosage went up almost every month as did the amount of pills I got. see on schedule 2 medications you have to go in to see the doctor every month no calling in a refill dosn't work like that with schedule 2 narcotics like oxycodone(roxicodone) no way I could train without it. my back is that fcked. I use 240mg roxicodone daily 8-30mg tabs a day! so some situations you cant win and have to use pain medication. now some people just use it when they have nothing wrong with them and get hooked quick! especially to 30mg roxicodone.

 to anybody who reads this stay away from opiate pain medications unless you really need them because you will get HOOKED. give it 2 weeks and you will be having withdrawals if you use it everyday for 2 weeks and stop cold turkey without tapering off. You can still train and make gains on painkillers but coke and crytal meth have no use in bodybuilding either does ecstasy thats just a drug you use once in a blue moon with your girlfriend. if a bodybuilder needs a wake up call they are actually weak minded. you dont even need to be using 20-30IU's of HGH of course that would help but you should be able to fight through those times when you feel like you are tired and need a wake-up call. drink a redline. No Bodybuilder will ever get anywhere in this sport using blow or ice.

Oxycodone is the devil on this earth.

And the doctors that prescribe this shit like candy are just as responsible for the epidemic of addiction as anybody
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: subseven on November 08, 2011, 07:24:00 PM
i never did mushrooms

i smoke weed, take speed cocaine x and other mdma

BUT everything maybe once a month
it can be that i do it a month more often and then the other month i dont touch anything

alcohol right now also very rarely, the only thing right now i'm on on a daily basis is ephedrine and nicotine

Your avatar is what, the flag of Turkey?
I heard stuff like that is widely available in Turkey; is it?
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 08, 2011, 07:34:48 PM
Your avatar is what, the flag of Turkey?
I heard stuff like that is widely available in Turkey; is it?

i live in germany
but i guess you can get everything everywhere
considering weed, we have the best here on the boarder to holland  ;D
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: subseven on November 08, 2011, 08:01:21 PM
Aha, so you're one of the 2+ million Turks in Germany, who cannot fit into either culture and resorted to drugs to cope with the resulting emptiness and anxiety. Good luck Bro
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Jadethegladiator on November 08, 2011, 08:20:41 PM
just snort it dammit

In my opinion, just stay with the ECA stack 3X a day.  In ref to the coke thing......hello? Bodybuilders need their sleep & if you don't get it you r f-ed.    K  :)

ps  I miss the original Hydroxycut.
 :-[
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 09, 2011, 12:26:58 AM
Dnp
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Raymondo on November 09, 2011, 12:48:24 AM
i live in germany
but i guess you can get everything everywhere
considering weed, we have the best here on the boarder to holland  ;D

Did you know that mustafa kemal was a bisexual who died of cirrhosis of the liver, due to alcoholism?

:)
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 09, 2011, 12:58:24 AM
Speed will work much better, the effects last longer and it's much cheaper. It ruins the appetite though, so you must force yourself to eat enough... :D
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on November 09, 2011, 08:10:46 AM
ah ok now i know where the problem is!
you dumb fuckers think speed is meth :D
speed is nowhere near as dangerous as meth, even alcohol and nicotine are more dangerous than xtase and speed


Speed is a nasty drug, meth even worse.
Speed does wreck a human body, seen a lot of my friends go down the drain.
I am dutch, lived the party life style in the late 90's early 2000's . Holland was the xtc capital of the world back then, real and pure mdma tablets. very very nice! only on the weekends, and i never drank alcohol with it.
did ghb to, and speed... speed sucks! keeps you up, kills apetite, you get anxious, paranoid etc etc...
and we did not snort speed... bad idea...! we did BOMMETJES... as in bombs... a rock of speed in a sigaretpaper, and swollow it with some coke... light of course because sugar is bad for you... lol! :)
good speed is a paste anyway, and can not be snorted.... it is still wet....
ghb loved it, me and my ex did a lot of it, but as with anything when you use to much it becomes a problem.
and believe me cold turky from ghb is hell on earth!
nowadays, only a beer or a wine every now and then.....
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 09, 2011, 09:00:49 AM
haha yeah once i didnt eat for like 3 days :D


@subseven dont spread those filthy lies u fucker
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Galvatron on November 09, 2011, 09:04:50 AM
galalalalaltasaray
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 09, 2011, 09:07:02 AM
raymondo and galvatron
you newbies don't knwo who you're messing with
i was born and raised on getbig
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Moen on November 09, 2011, 09:08:15 AM
Cocaine is significantly more dangerous than speed, has a lesser high and is probably less effective as a fat burner, just saying!
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Galvatron on November 09, 2011, 09:09:31 AM
raymondo and galvatron
you newbies don't knwo who you're messing with
i was born and raised on getbig

i ain't messing with you

God bless Afet İnan
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: Galvatron on November 09, 2011, 09:10:53 AM
Cocaine is significantly more dangerous than speed, has a lesser high and is probably less effective as a fat burner, just saying!

this is stuff you need to know as a bodybuilder

bodybuilding 101
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: ironneck on November 09, 2011, 09:11:37 AM
Cocaine is significantly more dangerous than speed, has a lesser high and is probably less effective as a fat burner, just saying!

i know speed is much better and cheaper IMO
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: biff on November 09, 2011, 03:10:22 PM
X and special K. Like peanutbutter and jelly. Best high ever, no contest

my n1gg@...
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on November 09, 2011, 05:45:09 PM
Dnp

this. safest shit in the world and works better than anything else
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on November 09, 2011, 06:00:21 PM
this. safest shit in the world and works better than anything else
safest shit??
lol....
i'd rather pop some more t3 and up the clen.. hell, i'd rather snort coke then use dnp!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on November 10, 2011, 03:38:42 PM
safest shit??
lol....
i'd rather pop some more t3 and up the clen.. hell, i'd rather snort coke then use dnp!  ;D ;D


You would have to be a fucking idiot to think clen is safer than DNP
Title: Re: gh15, what u think about cocain or speed to lose fat
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on November 10, 2011, 06:42:49 PM
You would have to be a fucking idiot to think clen is safer than DNP
yes i am an idiot then!  ::)
clen is tested and known, sold as a medicine....
dnp is not, it was sold as a fatburner years ago the 1920's i think, and was later forbidden.. why?? because people died, went blind, and some other nasty stuff.

clen is not very dangerous, just do not overdo it like some idiots.
every bodybuilder i know and knew uses clen / t3 combo to get shredded. most guys leave the dnp alone, and these are drug abusers i am talking about, when they leave a substance out that says something.
with dnp it is difficult to dose, because reactions vary, the effective dose is very close to the dose that kills you...
so before you call others idiots please think beforehand.