Author Topic: Is cocaine or speed good to lose fat? (Read 15173 times)

gh15 · « **Reply #50 on:** November 08, 2011, 01:12:52 AM »

Quote from: ironneck on November 08, 2011, 01:11:10 AM

never ever!

they must sniff rat poison or something

it was speed friend,, it ws speed,, you are young and goolible ,, they died from speed,,now they did crazy usage but they died from it

gh15 approved

ironneck · « **Reply #51 on:** November 08, 2011, 01:17:21 AM »

was they sniffing like 20gr a day or what

everything can kill u if you abuse it to the max

wes · « **Reply #52 on:** November 08, 2011, 01:24:33 AM »

Any idiot that uses coke to get lean,is an idiot.

gh15 · « **Reply #53 on:** November 08, 2011, 01:31:46 AM »

Quote from: ironneck on November 08, 2011, 01:17:21 AM

was they sniffing like 20gr a day or what

everything can kill u if you abuse it to the max

ofcourse they abused it duh,, this along with other things....like diuretics like insulina like pain killers,, but! in this cases they wee only on speed when died then again ABUSED IT,, but any rec drug is just taking toll on your life im telling you ,, if you are bodybuilder ..rec drugs not good ,, infact if you are anythign ...rec drugs are just finishing yuor life

gh15 approved

whitewidow · « **Reply #54 on:** November 08, 2011, 01:59:56 AM »

Quote from: ironneck on November 08, 2011, 01:17:21 AM

was they sniffing like 20gr a day or what

everything can kill u if you abuse it to the max

I know a good deal about narcotics and what GH15's buddys were using was crystal meth! see there is a diffrence between meth and crystal meth. meth is just cheap trailer made garbage low quality and purity. pure crytal meth is usually expensive comes in shards( like broken glass chunks) and is usually made in a mexican super lab and can be super pure. breaking bad pure 98%. if somebody uses a strong batch and uses to much their heart can actually explode. I have heard of this happening. ecstasy is a great drug if you use it on the weekend once or twice a year with your girlfriend but it should never be used more than a few times a year as it will seriously fuck up your serotonin levels. I think it is a safer drug than crystal meth and coke I believe it is more clean especially if its from amsterdam wich most of it is. crystal meth and coke have no place in bodybuilding but if you are having trouble sleeping on tren even if you are using HGH I think using xanax in a minimum dose at night is not that bad for you. it is addictive but not as bad for you as nubain or GHB. and it cannot be injected wich makes it less dangerous.

I would say even stay away from xanax or valium if you can but sometimes I use them to sleep if I am on tren and cannot sleep. HGH dosnt make me as tired as it used to. as far as painkillers like oxyconin or oxycodone I would stay far away! I know as a bodybuilder you can blow discs or herniate discs and it can be very painful! you go see the doctor and they give you oxycontin or oxycodone within a few weeks you will be addicted and you will need more and more to get pain relief. I was driving and got hit by a drunk driver fractured my spine T12 to be exact plus I already had disc herniations I was hurting from but just taking tylenol PM to control the pain and sleep, but for this spine fracture I needed oyxcontin and oxycodone for breakthrough pain and my dosage went up almost every month as did the amount of pills I got. see on schedule 2 medications you have to go in to see the doctor every month no calling in a refill dosn't work like that with schedule 2 narcotics like oxycodone(roxicodone) no way I could train without it. my back is that fcked. I use 240mg roxicodone daily 8-30mg tabs a day! so some situations you cant win and have to use pain medication. now some people just use it when they have nothing wrong with them and get hooked quick! especially to 30mg roxicodone.

to anybody who reads this stay away from opiate pain medications unless you really need them because you will get HOOKED. give it 2 weeks and you will be having withdrawals if you use it everyday for 2 weeks and stop cold turkey without tapering off. You can still train and make gains on painkillers but coke and crytal meth have no use in bodybuilding either does ecstasy thats just a drug you use once in a blue moon with your girlfriend. if a bodybuilder needs a wake up call they are actually weak minded. you dont even need to be using 20-30IU's of HGH of course that would help but you should be able to fight through those times when you feel like you are tired and need a wake-up call. drink a redline. No Bodybuilder will ever get anywhere in this sport using blow or ice.

wes · « **Reply #55 on:** November 08, 2011, 02:08:42 AM »

Quote from: whitewidow on November 08, 2011, 01:59:56 AM

I know a good deal about narcotics and what GH15's buddys were using was crystal meth! see there is a diffrence between meth and crystal meth. meth is just cheap trailer made garbage low quality and purity. pure crytal meth is usually expensive comes in shards( like broken glass chunks) and is usually made in a mexican super lab and can be super pure. breaking bad pure 98%. if somebody uses a strong batch and uses to much their heart can actually explode. I have heard of this happening. ecstasy is a great drug if you use it on the weekend once or twice a year with your girlfriend but it should never be used more than a few times a year as it will seriously fuck up your serotonin levels. I think it is a safer drug than crystal meth and coke I believe it is more clean especially if its from amsterdam wich most of it is. crystal meth and coke have no place in bodybuilding but if you are having trouble sleeping on tren even if you are using HGH I think using xanax in a minimum dose at night is not that bad for you. it is addictive but not as bad for you as nubain or GHB. and it cannot be injected wich makes it less dangerous. I would say even stay away from xanax or valium if you can but sometimes I use them to sleep if I am on tren and cannot sleep. HGH dosnt make me as tired as it used to. as far as painkillers like oxyconin or oxycodone I would stay far away! I know as a bodybuilder you can blow discs or herniate discs and it can be very painful! you go see the doctor and they give you oxycontin or oxycodone within a few weeks you will be addicted and you will need more and more to get pain relief. I was driving and got hit by a drunk driver fractured my spine T12 to be exact plus I already had disc herniations I was hurting from but just taking tylenol PM to control the pain and sleep, but for this spine fracture I needed oyxcontin and oxycodone for breakthrough pain and my dosage went up almost every month as did the amount of pills I got. see on schedule 2 medications you have to go in to see the doctor every month no calling in a refill dosn't work like that with schedule 2 narcotics like oxycodone(roxicodone) no way I could train without it. my back is that fcked. I use 240mg roxicodone daily 8-30mg tabs a day! so some situations you cant win and have to use pain medication. now some people just use it when they have nothing wrong with them and get hooked quick! especially to 30mg roxicodone. to anybody who reads this stay away from opiate pain medications unless you really need them because you will get HOOKED. give it 2 weeks and you will be having withdrawals if you use it everyday for 2 weeks and stop cold turkey without tapering off. You can still train and make gains on painkillers but coke and crytal meth have no use in bodybuilding either dose ecstasy thats just a drug you use once in a blue moon with your girlfriend. if a bodybuilder needs a wake up call they are actually weak minded. you dont even need to be using 20-30IU's of HGH of course that would help but you should be able to fight through those times when you feel like you are tired and need a wake-up call. drink a redline. No Bodybuilder will ever get anywhere in this sport using blow or ice.

Paragraphs please......nobody can read that shit bro.

whitewidow · « **Reply #56 on:** November 08, 2011, 02:39:08 AM »

Quote from: wes on November 08, 2011, 02:08:42 AM

Paragraphs please......nobody can read that shit bro.

ok just for you wes $:-\$

wes · « **Reply #57 on:** November 08, 2011, 02:40:15 AM »

I`m not trying to be an asshole,but that`s very hard to read.

whitewidow · « **Reply #58 on:** November 08, 2011, 02:50:16 AM »

Quote from: wes on November 08, 2011, 02:40:15 AM

I`m not trying to be an asshole,but that`s very hard to read.

even after I changed it? I know I typed it quick.I didnt realize how long my rant was. But it should be legible now.

wes · « **Reply #59 on:** November 08, 2011, 02:53:38 AM »

Thanks!!

dyslexic · « **Reply #60 on:** November 08, 2011, 02:55:15 AM »

Well, I know this is "supposed" to be a bodybuilding board, but if you want to think for one second that Meth alone can't or will not kill you, you are sadly mistaken.

I grew up in the trucking industry.

Many of the drivers that were having the time of their lives hustlin' up and the down the highways and doin their speed, well, they are gone now. Their kids are grown, wives had already left them, and these guys would have been my age now. Much like Gh15 stated, they left me alone out there. They originally ran circles around me, and then they got slower and slower and eventually slept more than they drove. They could do a bag and eat and then sleep. Sure, many of them smoked also, but the point is that THE DRUG CONSUMED THEIR LIVES. In the beginning they wouldn't eat or sleep for days.

Ultimately it was the Meth that killed them. I don't really care what "kind" it was, and in they end, neither did they.

I've never really seen a drug so addicting in the respect that it tears someone down to nothing very quickly, it makes them delusional, they become mental, they lose everything, not just monetarily, but their self-respect, and they STILL CAN'T QUIT!

The women? That drug takes its toll on them even faster. It can make a 25 year old female look 60 in about a year or so.

Nasty drug. I just sat back and watched. There was nothing I could do. The things that came out of their mouths were so far fetched there was no use in responding or hanging around them. Besides, they were always paranoid. Very paranoid.

You don't meet too many "ex" meth-heads. They don't seem to make it very far in this life.

I don't think it's just *bodybuilders* that are weak minded... it's people

AlphaMaleDawg · « **Reply #61 on:** November 08, 2011, 02:56:55 AM »

Quote from: abijahmaniaco on November 07, 2011, 07:11:50 PM

wasted potential like most blacks.

what the hell are you talking about? He was top 5 at the olympia and partied his ass off and actually had fun with his career, unless the guys who never socialized and just did bodybuilding 24/7. Cormier did it right

ironneck · « **Reply #62 on:** November 08, 2011, 08:32:47 AM »

ah ok now i know where the problem is!
you dumb fuckers think speed is meth

speed is nowhere near as dangerous as meth, even alcohol and nicotine are more dangerous than xtase and speed

abijahmaniaco · « **Reply #63 on:** November 08, 2011, 10:22:26 AM »

Quote from: AlphaMaleDawg on November 08, 2011, 02:56:55 AM

what the hell are you talking about? He was top 5 at the olympia and partied his ass off and actually had fun with his career, unless the guys who never socialized and just did bodybuilding 24/7. Cormier did it right

keyword there was "potential". gh15 said he could have been mr. o.

BOW · « **Reply #64 on:** November 08, 2011, 12:50:08 PM »

Quote from: goomba420 on November 07, 2011, 05:23:20 PM

worked for zyzz

yeah and now hes zzzz...

hematocritter · « **Reply #65 on:** November 08, 2011, 02:24:55 PM »

I used to be addicted to IV cocaine.
I lived in a place where it was pure and easy to get, even socially accepted. Shooting it was not though.
There is nothing quite like the feeling of pure cocaine injected IV, feels like being in a euphoric train tunnel heaven for just seconds, with ears ringing pleasurably and every muscle in your face tingling and tightening......then you want to dose more and more until you run out.
I never had that issue with snorting coke. Just IV.

They say there are no IV coke addicts.... they are all dead.

I can see why. The last time I did it, I shot 60mg in one arm, and must have missed the vein. Didn't feel much, so I shot 60 in the other side. I guess the first one leaked into the bloodstream almost instantly after mainlining the 2nd, so I got 120mg of pure blow in my blood at the same time. I could literally see my heart beating out of my chest, I thought I was going to die. I poured $500 worth of coke down the sink after that, and never touched it again.

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

wes · « **Reply #66 on:** November 08, 2011, 02:26:45 PM »

Quote from: hematocritter on November 08, 2011, 02:24:55 PM

I used to be addicted to IV cocaine.
I lived in a place where it was pure and easy to get, even socially accepted. Shooting it was not though.
There is nothing quite like the feeling of pure cocaine injected IV, feels like being in a euphoric train tunnel heaven for just seconds, with ears ringing pleasurably and every muscle in your face tingling and tightening......then you want to dose more and more until you run out.
I never had that issue with snorting coke. Just IV.

They say there are no IV coke addicts.... they are all dead.

I can see why. The last time I did it, I shot 60mg in one arm, and must have missed the vein. Didn't feel much, so I shot 60 in the other side. I guess the first one leaked into the bloodstream almost instantly after mainlining the 2nd, so I got 120mg of pure blow in my blood at the same time. I could literally see my heart beating out of my chest, I thought I was going to die. I poured $500 worth of coke down the sink after that, and never touched it again.

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

Been there done that........not a pleasant existance.

Props for getting clean bro.

Borracho · « **Reply #67 on:** November 08, 2011, 02:28:58 PM »

Quote from: hematocritter on November 08, 2011, 02:24:55 PM

I used to be addicted to IV cocaine.
I lived in a place where it was pure and easy to get, even socially accepted. Shooting it was not though.
There is nothing quite like the feeling of pure cocaine injected IV, feels like being in a euphoric train tunnel heaven for just seconds, with ears ringing pleasurably and every muscle in your face tingling and tightening......then you want to dose more and more until you run out.
I never had that issue with snorting coke. Just IV.

They say there are no IV coke addicts.... they are all dead.

I can see why. The last time I did it, I shot 60mg in one arm, and must have missed the vein. Didn't feel much, so I shot 60 in the other side. I guess the first one leaked into the bloodstream almost instantly after mainlining the 2nd, so I got 120mg of pure blow in my blood at the same time. I could literally see my heart beating out of my chest, I thought I was going to die. I poured $500 worth of coke down the sink after that, and never touched it again.

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

Lotta people just keep going after going through something like that. Glad you were able to quit.

ironneck · « **Reply #68 on:** November 08, 2011, 02:32:22 PM »

just snort it dammit

Borracho · « **Reply #69 on:** November 08, 2011, 02:35:56 PM »

Quote from: ironneck on November 08, 2011, 02:32:22 PM

just snort it dammit

Only so much that can go up comfortably up your nose. Some look for other methods...not all, some. And don't think people haven't over dosed from snorting it.