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My neighbour 26 year old taking them for years died a few hours ago, poor guy..
His mother said he was taking 6-7 a day for years, but its when he tried to stop is when he went downhill.
RIP Peter!
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I took alprazolam years ago. I didn't like how i felt on it. Quit it cold turkey after months on it. I spend 5 or 6 very harsh days with no sleep at old, cold sweats, taquicardia, i remember i was 107bpm resting in bed. Don't want to go back to it ever.
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You can have seizures and all kind of problems when you try to quit Benzos cold turkey. You need to go to a professional detox center.
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You can have seizures and all kind of problems when you try to quit Benzos cold turkey. You need to go to a professional detox center.
Poor dude tried to quit cold turkey (I assume) i dont know how many mgs he was on per day but when i saw him once in a while he was in lala land.
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You can have seizures and all kind of problems when you try to quit Benzos cold turkey. You need to go to a professional detox center.
Those centers are just after money. All they do is get you hooked on something else.
They don't cure the cause of the anxiety thus your problem persists and they have to give you something else.
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Poor Peter, never made it to 2012
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Poor dude tried to quit cold turkey (I assume) i dont know how many mgs he was on per day but when i saw him once in a while he was in lala land.
When benzos are related most people die from OD or suicide. Though seizures are plausible suicide is a lot more common. Its even written in the damn paper in the side effects list.
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When benzos are related most people die from OD or suicide. Though seizures are plausible suicide is a lot more common. Its even written in the damn paper in the side effects list.
His sister was telling the ambulance officers that the shit wasnt prescribed, they think he got it off a friend or over the net, i dont think australian doctors prescribe xanax, no way he was prescribed it for that long.
YEP he went cold turkey, his body shutdown, brain, heart and renal failure.
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Those centers are just after money. All they do is get you hooked on something else.
They don't cure the cause of the anxiety thus your problem persists and they have to give you something else.
I agree I had a friend who was hooked on pills pretty bad. Well he went to one of those methadone clinics they had him on like 160mg a day of the stuff. And then the doctor gave him a bunch of xanax on top of that. What a pathetic site he was. He would drool on himself he would be so fucked up all the time. I didn't allow him to come over to my place anymore when I saw him like that a few times. They almost killed him in rehab. They had given him a concoction of different meds. Well he starts to piss black! His kidneys and other vital organs were shutting down on him. Took a whole month to stabilize him and get him healed. You have to do your own research and figure out the best thing for yourself!
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I agree I had a friend who was hooked on pills pretty bad. Well he went to one of those methadone clinics they had him on like 160mg a day of the stuff. And then the doctor gave him a bunch of xanax on top of that. What a pathetic site he was. He would drool on himself he would be so fucked up all the time. I didn't allow him to come over to my place anymore when I saw him like that a few times. They almost killed him in rehab. They had given him a concoction of different meds. Well he starts to piss black! His kidneys and other vital organs were shutting down on him. Took a whole month to stabilize him and get him healed. You have to do your own research and figure out the best thing for yourself!
I had a friend who was like that, no my neighbour. he was a coke addict then all the sudden a valium abuser,
i literally told him to fuck off out my life, fucken junkie.
all he did was borrow peoples money and not pay back, i think his time will be up soon. bad karma for this dude, stole money from good people, stressed his mum out so bad she died from cancer, sadly her dying is the best thing that happend to her.
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A female pillhead I knew had two seizures and had to go to the hospital because she quit her xanie habit cold turkey. Soon as she was out she went right back on...sad. I could no longer associate myself with her.
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Right now im taking this. Just one blue pill a day. With my dinner of with my pre-bed snack. Its just basic 5mg diazepam to help a bit with the sleep and 50mgs of long term mild sedative. The first days you wake up and just want to go back to bed but after that one little nap after breakfast and im good to go. The good this is that because im just taking one i can stop cold turkey because there is no lower dose. Not the worse pills i've had. So far no bad sides. Sometimes i feel tired for no reason but thats pretty much all.
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Why the fuck do you need to take this shit?
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Right now im taking this. Just one blue pill a day. With my dinner of with my pre-bed snack. Its just basic 5mg diazepam to help a bit with the sleep and 50mgs of long term mild sedative. The first days you wake up and just want to go back to bed but after that one little nap after breakfast and im good to go. The good this is that because im just taking one i can stop cold turkey because there is no lower dose. Not the worse pills i've had. So far no bad sides. Sometimes i feel tired for no reason but thats pretty much all.
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you cant sleep naturally my man? if it works for you then good, but i prefer to let my body sleep on its own.
does that pill make u put on weight? are u motivated to work out?
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you cant sleep naturally my man? if it works for you then good, but i prefer to let my body sleep on its own.
does that pill make u put on weight? are u motivated to work out?
I don't think i've sleep naturally since i was like 16.
Nah im skinny. And anxiety actually makes me skinnier. Sometime im not motivated to workout all i want to do is sleep o lay in bed with some music. It makes me lazy. The worse part is dragging my sedated ass to the gym. Once im there and start doing something i can get a pretty good workout.
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What would be good treatment/medication for anxiety?
A pill can't heal deeply rooted problems, but sometimes life seems too short to heal your inner anus... one would have to become 400+ to sort out the demons.
Any experiences - did it get better?
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I don't think i've sleep naturally since i was like 16.
Nah im skinny. And anxiety actually makes me skinnier. Sometime im not motivated to workout all i want to do is sleep o lay in bed with some music. It makes me lazy. The worse part is dragging my sedated ass to the gym. Once im there and start doing something i can get a pretty good workout.
Arrggghh no good man, dont be a slave to the drugs Voland, get off that shit slowly, my bad, if you feel better on it then cool. I never had a drug addiction to anything so i have no clue how it feels.
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Right now im taking this. Just one blue pill a day. With my dinner of with my pre-bed snack. Its just basic 5mg diazepam to help a bit with the sleep and 50mgs of long term mild sedative. The first days you wake up and just want to go back to bed but after that one little nap after breakfast and im good to go. The good this is that because im just taking one i can stop cold turkey because there is no lower dose. Not the worse pills i've had. So far no bad sides. Sometimes i feel tired for no reason but thats pretty much all.
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Sounds good in theory, but they stop working and you experience sides, so you have to increase the dosage or you start going through withdrawal. Do not take Benzo's to help with sleep. If you are using 1-2x every couple weeks that is fine, but on any kind of regular basis and you will be addicted.
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xanax made me go to sleep like ambien now I just take a valium per day if need be needing drugs really sucks
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I`m a valium man myself.
Sorry to hear about your neighbor...........that sucks.
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RIP :(
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Those centers are just after money. All they do is get you hooked on something else.
They don't cure the cause of the anxiety thus your problem persists and they have to give you something else.
The very nature of a DETOX center is to wean one off the stuff safely. The underlying problems are addressed after detox
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I try not to take any drug routinely except hormonas. I only take drugs like benzos once in a blue moon.
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I`m a valium man myself.
why am i not suprised? Explains a lot.
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Really sucks QuickerBlade :(
But I can't believe people don't inform themselves when its so easy with the internet these days. A quick search online will tell you that you can die from Benzo withdrawl. A doctor has a plan laid out for those wanting to quit where you switch to valium since it has a longer half life than xanax. Even then the whole process takes like way over 16 weeks ...don't remember the exact time.
Most people don't know but Alcohol and benzo withdrawal can be lethal.
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why am i not suprised? Explains a lot.
Fuck off from wes you moron.
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I`m a valium man myself.
Sorry to hear about your neighbor...........that sucks.
Yeah, his parents are devastated, he was a good guy, he just became bored and became a pill popper, he should of just seeked help, he just need another hobby maybe, he tried to quit cold turkey after years of taking 10-12mgs a day of the stuff, he overheated and his body seized up.
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IM ON THEM FOR LIFE.XANAX WITHDRAWAL IS HORRIBLLE. WORSE THAN A OPIATE WITHDRAWAL. ALWAYS GO TO THE er WHEN YOU ARE LOW ON XANAX THEY WILL TAKE IT SERIOUS.YOU CAN SEIZURE EASY
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IM ON THEM FOR LIFE.XANAX WITHDRAWAL IS HORRIBLLE. WORSE THAN A OPIATE WITHDRAWAL. ALWAYS GO TO THE er WHEN YOU ARE LOW ON XANAX THEY WILL TAKE IT SERIOUS.YOU CAN SEIZURE EASY
Holy shit, broski. I knew you had a bit of a chemical dependency, but that picture hits home. I've known people in the same boat and once you set sail, there's almost no turning back.
I went through SSRI withdrawal and that was pretty messed. Dad went through opiate withdrawal many times as well... it petrified me seeing a super strong ass man reduced to tears. After his heart stopped and EMTs brought him back from the clinical dead multiple times he finally got off the opiates. He "died" a couple times during that overdose too. Heroin and crack were his combination of choice. Lots of emotional pains and physical pains sent him spiralling out of control, but he's kicking ass know and begging to get a hormona cycle setup LOL
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I took alprazolam years ago. I didn't like how i felt on it. Quit it cold turkey after months on it. I spend 5 or 6 very harsh days with no sleep at old, cold sweats, taquicardia, i remember i was 107bpm resting in bed. Don't want to go back to it ever.
damn dude how many were you taking? you shouldnt have those types of problems taking 1 a day or every other day the way theyre meant to be taken.
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Holy shit, broski. I knew you had a bit of a chemical dependency, but that picture hits home. I've known people in the same boat and once you set sail, there's almost no turning back.
I went through SSRI withdrawal and that was pretty messed. Dad went through opiate withdrawal many times as well... it petrified me seeing a super strong ass man reduced to tears. After his heart stopped and EMTs brought him back from the clinical dead multiple times he finally got off the opiates. He "died" a couple times during that overdose too. Heroin and crack were his combination of choice. Lots of emotional pains and physical pains sent him spiralling out of control, but he's kicking ass know and begging to get a hormona cycle setup LOL
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they tried prozac at first with me but I didnt have a depression problem it was anxiety . It really jacked up my blood pressure after 4weeks it was hypertension my BP was 171 over 110 and I wanted off bad and the doctor agreed he made me do bloodwork right away. They gave me prozac and ativan then when I had the hypertension and bad side and it just didnt work. xanax worked real well because I had used it before. he gave me klonopins for 6 months then finally gave me 180 xanax tablets 1mg now I get 360 1mg xanax tablets. 12mg a day. I dont use that much though. I get by with what I can. I always have left overs. I have played sports since a kid I am a qaudtrouple threat athlete
I played basketball,football, baseball and did track all in highschool and some of the sports in college. I lifted weights since the age of 13 but I started training and eating like a bodybuilder when I was 24yrs old. I looked like a bodybuilder when I was 18 and up but didnt know how to eat and train properly for bodybuilding and also did not use steroids till 24. So I have alot of disc herniations is the issue and then I got hit by a drunk driver and that actually fractured my spine-T12 area. this is why I need the painkillers. 6 disc herniations and 1 fracture in my T12. I was real serious about bodybuilding when I was 24 years old. even at 21 I was told i could win a few local shows. I didnt want to compete at that point just worked out because i am vane. I worked with a nutritonist and owned a supplement shop when I was 24 the nutrionist owned the shop with me. anyway a anxiety dissorder since I was young and had a hard upbringing and then all the disc problems. these are why I get the prescriptions. grew up in the city and seen some awful things. guys shot ,guys stabbed, pimps as neighbors.real pimps who wore 3 piece suits and top hat and gators pimped women and sold crack these are the people I grew up around-- seen alot of bad!
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why am i not suprised? Explains a lot.
Folloeing gods word to the T, i see.
You fucking c unt.
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Holy shit, broski. I knew you had a bit of a chemical dependency, but that picture hits home. I've known people in the same boat and once you set sail, there's almost no turning back.
I went through SSRI withdrawal and that was pretty messed. Dad went through opiate withdrawal many times as well... it petrified me seeing a super strong ass man reduced to tears. After his heart stopped and EMTs brought him back from the clinical dead multiple times he finally got off the opiates. He "died" a couple times during that overdose too. Heroin and crack were his combination of choice. Lots of emotional pains and physical pains sent him spiralling out of control, but he's kicking ass know and begging to get a hormona cycle setup LOL
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they tried prozac at first with me but I didnt have a depression problem it was anxiety . It really jacked up my blood pressure after 4weeks it was hypertension my BP was 171 over 110 and I wantted off bad and the doctor agreed he made me do bloodwork right away. They gave me prozac and ativan then when I had the hypertension and bad side and it just didnt work. xanax worked real well because I had used it before. he gave me klonopins for 6 months then finally gave me 180 xanax tablets 1mg now I get 360 1mg xanax tablets. 12mg a day. I dont use that much though. I get by with what I can. I always have left overs. I have played sports since a kid I am a qaudtrouple threat athlete
I played basketball,football, baseball and did track all in highschool and some of the sports in college. I lifted weights since the age of 13 but I started training and eating like a bodybuilder when I was 24yrs old. I looked like a bodybuilder when I was 18 and up but didnt know how to eat and train properly for bodybuilding and also did not use steroids till 24. So I have alot of disc herniations is the issue and then I got hit by a drunk driver and that actually fractured my spine-T12 area. this is why I need the painkillers. 6 disc herniations and 1 fracture in my T12. I was real serious about bodybuilding when I was 24 years old. even at 21 I was told i could win a few local shows. I didnt want to compete at that point just worked out because i am vane. I worked with a nutritonist and owned a supplement shop when I was 24 the nutrionist owned the shop with me. anyway a anxiety dissorder since I was young and had a hard upbringing and then all the disc problems. these are why I get the prescriptions. grew up in the city and seen some awful things. guys shot ,guys stabbed, pimps as neighbors.real pimps who wore 3 pice sits and top hates and gators pimped women and sold crack these are the people i grew up around-- seen alot of bad!
That's rough, man. I hope it gets better for you.
I can relate too to the messed up life experiences as well. When my Dad started going off the deep end I saw things including a murder and someone getting shot in the kneecaps and beat up over drug money. I thankfully never got too scarred by anything outside a bit of depression and anxiety because I had a life changing mushroom trip that completely rewired my ego and perception of the world. I would have started taking more antidepressants and anti-anxiety meds had I not had that glowing, mystical experience turn my life around.
I know you can't do too much for the physical pain of course, but have you every thought of using psychedelics to bring out and battle your demons? I used to overlook it and thought it was pretty hoky myself, but then I inadvertently had a crazy experience that pulled my ego out of my ass and sent it soaring across the cosmos. I visited plains of conciousness that I never even knew existed. I think I'm a much better, much more stable and functional person having experienced that. I don't get the same bouts of depression and uncontrollable anxiety any more. Marijuana is also said to help, but I've been smoking it too much and too consistently to notice. I'm doing well mentally though, so I can't complain.
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My neighbour 26 year old taking them for years died a few hours ago, poor guy..
His mother said he was taking 6-7 a day for years, but its when he tried to stop is when he went downhill.
RIP Peter!
I had a relative that was taking LOTS of different pain killers, Xanax, Vicodin, Oxycodone (whatever that is)....
I had another relative get arrested for possession, and the person in question finally stopped cold turkey (after breaking their leg, wrecking a car, etc...)
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Drugs are for weak people.
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I've drunk myself to treatment and the hospital several times. The common thinking is xanax is the most addict substance on the face of the earth if get addicted u cant sleep with out it so impossible to quit. Withdraws cause seziures many times and can cause death. If your hooked on xanax the best thing is dont try to beat it check yourself in and get medicaly withdrawn if possible I have never seen a stone cold benzo addict quit. You see skinny women that look prego thats why xanax shuts down your nervous system and causes subconcious things to quit such as digestion many times bezo addicts have to get stomch surgery because of this. xanax is one of the only thing that can kill a healthy person from withdraw I seen a young bodybuilder have a seziure from withdraw it was funny a big fat woman came and jumped on him.
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His funeral is after the New Year 3rd Jan.
The police had to come to his house to inspect his room, he had tablets like whitewidow does. he may have been popping 10-15 pills a day, he never had a job, his parents are well off, he just lazed around the house all day but he would always help out the oldies in our street, whether its mow there lawn or help them unload shopping, very kind, but very dependant on xanax.
he would need about 2 years to wean off what he was use too taking, he went cold turkey, i dont know why, he still had hundreds of pills left, he could of cut down. poor bastard..Poor Mum and dad.
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You can have seizures and all kind of problems when you try to quit Benzos cold turkey. You need to go to a professional detox center.
Decent benzo detox takes a month..
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Knew a kid from school who died on his front porch while telling his brother on the phone he wasn't feeling good and another kid who took a nap in his car at a supermarket and never woke up.
Both were 19 or 20 years old. Dangerous stuff but that's life unfortunately.
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Knew a kid from school who died on his front porch while telling his brother on the phone he wasn't feeling good and another kid who took a nap in his car at a supermarket and never woke up.
Both were 19 or 20 years old. Dangerous stuff but that's life unfortunately.
What was he on??
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You can't kill yourself with benzo's alone..
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What was he on??
The guy in the car was on OxyContin. I'm not sure about the kid on the porch but I heard he started coughing blood pretty violently while on the phone with his bro. Went into a seizure and was gone by the time his family and the ambulance could get there.
The sad part is his close group of friends continued to use well after that incident. You figure that would be the ultimate wake up call for them.
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The guy in the car was on OxyContin. I'm not sure about the kid on the porch but I heard he started coughing blood pretty violently while on the phone with his bro. Went into a seizure and was gone by the time his family and the ambulance could get there. I don't know much about pills so I'm not sure what he took.
The sad part is his close group of friends continued to use well after that incident. You figure that would be the ultimate wake up call for them.
Not good at all, I feel for there parents, i feel for my neighbours, the parents were in hysterics earlier on, they probably had to take a xanax from his room to calm down.
I have seen to many people fuck there lives, careers from drugs/pills i just say no, if i cant sleep i drink warm milk, write down whats on my mind and im lights out, i sleep like a baby.
for all you guys here that depend on the pills i hope you guys one day get off it slowly and live a healthy life.
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You can't kill yourself with benzo's alone..
yes u can I have seen you guys have seziure fits from them after using the 2 weeks and stopping. foamin of the mouth everything what if u was driving while that happened.
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I have taken halcion for along time straight and stopped cold turkey with no problems. The trick is to take the benzo once a day, at a recommended dosage. The people experiencing horrific withdrawals are those who take benzos, many times per day and end up taking alot per day. Someone who takes a small amount of xanax, one time per day, may have some withdrawal but it wont be too bad. I feel bad for the kid cause I know how bad anxiety is and how horrific a panic attack feels.
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my neighbour pete took it cause he was bored, no anxiety, he lives a decent life, his parents set him up really well, i overheard his sister telling our other neighbour they estimate he was on "5 bars a day" whatever that means, i dont know how many mgs that equals but obviously its enough for the body to depend on it after 6 yrs.
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my neighbour pete took it cause he was bored, no anxiety, he lives a decent life, his parents set him up really well, i overheard his sister telling our other neighbour they estimate he was on "5 bars a day" whatever that means, i dont know how many mgs that equals but obviously its enough for the body to depend on it after 6 yrs.
I took "half a bar" which is half a pill with a few beers once to experiment but I HATE that almost helpless state it puts you in when combined with alcohol. I just couldn't imagine living my life in an opiate induced haze. Just seems so depressing.
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I took "half a bar" which is half a pill with a few beers once to experiment but I HATE that almost helpless state it puts you in when combined with alcohol. I just couldn't imagine living my life in an opiate induced haze. Just seems so depressing.
wow, i dont know if was taking em all at once or through out the day but if half made you feel helpless, what would 5 bars do?
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yes u can I have seen you guys have seziure fits from them after using the 2 weeks and stopping. foamin of the mouth everything what if u was driving while that happened.
I meant you can't OD on benzo's alone..
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You can't kill yourself with benzo's alone..
That is a fact. You can drink and combine them with alcohol and never wake up. Most of the people responding to this thread have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
When you have an "episode" or a seizure it is more often than not b/c you have snorted the drug in very high doses ~ not only that. but you don't take another dose after the high.
Benzos like Alazropam require steady dosages of tolerable amounts - not to get high, but to stop anxiety, or possibly to put you to sleep (albeit NOT permanantly)
Benzos are too often used to bring people down after a stimulant rather than their intended use, which is to temporarily halt G.A.D (Generalized Anxiety Disorder) ~ as a recreational drug, they are a "no no"
You are just asking for trouble. They are also highly addictive. If the dose is not too high and you are only using what the doctor has prescribed and taking it when you should, you should not experience the episodes/seizures or much in the way of withdrawal.
There is a rebound effect that comes from steady use. If you don't just take the drug "as needed" (which some folks can do) you find that you will have "fake" panic attacks that can easily be tolerated if you just don't take the drug.
Kids these days like to snort their oxy and take their Vics along with a Redbull and some alcohol (all night) and then they expect to be able to use Xanax as if it were nothing. Xanax serves a valuable purpose, its just not a good choice for recreational doping as it does not mix well in concotions.
Valium will half a much longer half-life and leave you feeling groggy (even the next day) and is actually much more physically and mentally addicting.
Some solid folks would not have a life without Alazropam. Others would be well to keep their hands off of the stuff.
Taken as directed its fine and you don't need a methadone clinic to get off of it. Your dosage should never exceed more than a milligram and a half at one time. Anything more than that and you are probably looking to get high. Go smoke dope. Some people take Xanax just so they dont get anxiety from their weed. It's all about how you use it. It can either help you function daily as a *normal* human, or it can ruin your life (as can any drug or obsession)
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Years ago I had a patient in the clinic that had to detox from 1 gram (1000mg) of Valium per day. Me nor my colleagues had ever had a patient with that ridiculous amount....
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Once you start any of this shit you have a problem whether prescribed or not. After an operation for a ripped bicep I had perscription for oxycontin. A friend said they don't do anything for him. I was in really bad shape with pain and my wife tells me that after taking oxycontin I was laughing watching tv. After 2 days of using it I flushed the rest and just dealt with it.
In many ways steroids affect the mind too. Guys get aggressive, confident and have a great mental mind set. When going completely off so many guys get depressed, nervous and feel timid. Hormones whether testosterone or estrogen have a powerful influence on your mental state. It seems this is never addressed. That's one of the reasons anabolic steroids are addictive.
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Once you start any of this shit you have a problem whether prescribed or not. After an operation for a ripped bicep I had perscription for oxycontin. A friend said they don't do anything for him. I was in really bad shape with pain and my wife tells me that after taking oxycontin I was laughing watching tv. After 2 days of using it I flushed the rest and just dealt with it.
In many ways steroids affect the mind too. Guys get aggressive, confident and have a great mental mind set. When going completely off so many guys get depressed, nervous and feel timid. Hormones whether testosterone or estrogen have a powerful influence on your mental state. It seems this is never addressed. That's one of the reasons anabolic steroids are addictive.
Yes, you don't know how much influence test and estrogen have in your personality until you try steroids and then you come off. I'm not saying you will be a complete different person but you can notice the influence in your mindset.
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I meant you can't OD on benzo's alone..
ya you can
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That is a fact. You can drink and combine them with alcohol and never wake up. Most of the people responding to this thread have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
When you have an "episode" or a seizure it is more often than not b/c you have snorted the drug in very high doses ~ not only that. but you don't take another dose after the high.
Benzos like Alazropam require steady dosages of tolerable amounts - not to get high, but to stop anxiety, or possibly to put you to sleep (albeit NOT permanantly)
Benzos are too often used to bring people down after a stimulant rather than their intended use, which is to temporarily halt G.A.D (Generalized Anxiety Disorder) ~ as a recreational drug, they are a "no no"
You are just asking for trouble. They are also highly addictive. If the dose is not too high and you are only using what the doctor has prescribed and taking it when you should, you should not experience the episodes/seizures or much in the way of withdrawal.
There is a rebound effect that comes from steady use. If you don't just take the drug "as needed" (which some folks can do) you find that you will have "fake" panic attacks that can easily be tolerated if you just don't take the drug.
Kids these days like to snort their oxy and take their Vics along with a Redbull and some alcohol (all night) and then they expect to be able to use Xanax as if it were nothing. Xanax serves a valuable purpose, its just not a good choice for recreational doping as it does not mix well in concotions.
Valium will half a much longer half-life and leave you feeling groggy (even the next day) and is actually much more physically and mentally addicting.
Some solid folks would not have a life without Alazropam. Others would be well to keep their hands off of the stuff.
Taken as directed its fine and you don't need a methadone clinic to get off of it. Your dosage should never exceed more than a milligram and a half at one time. Anything more than that and you are probably looking to get high. Go smoke dope. Some people take Xanax just so they dont get anxiety from their weed. It's all about how you use it. It can either help you function daily as a *normal* human, or it can ruin your life (as can any drug or obsession)
how can you agree with his statement which is completely false then belittle others in the thread saying they do not know what they are talking about?
it also depends on the benzo, alprazolam and temazepam are more likely to cause death in overdose and are more toxic then the others in the class.
people often use them to od wrt intentional suicide.
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Once you start any of this shit you have a problem whether prescribed or not. After an operation for a ripped bicep I had perscription for oxycontin. A friend said they don't do anything for him. I was in really bad shape with pain and my wife tells me that after taking oxycontin I was laughing watching tv. After 2 days of using it I flushed the rest and just dealt with it.
In many ways steroids affect the mind too. Guys get aggressive, confident and have a great mental mind set. When going completely off so many guys get depressed, nervous and feel timid. Hormones whether testosterone or estrogen have a powerful influence on your mental state. It seems this is never addressed. That's one of the reasons anabolic steroids are addictive.
They are powerful drugs.
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Years ago I had a patient in the clinic that had to detox from 1 gram (1000mg) of Valium per day. Me nor my colleagues had ever had a patient with that ridiculous amount....
that cant be possible.
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I see addictions to 200-400 mgs Valium a day regularly...
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I saw some IFBB take 100 per day of 10mg Valium
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Once you start any of this shit you have a problem whether prescribed or not. After an operation for a ripped bicep I had perscription for oxycontin. A friend said they don't do anything for him. I was in really bad shape with pain and my wife tells me that after taking oxycontin I was laughing watching tv. After 2 days of using it I flushed the rest and just dealt with it.
In many ways steroids affect the mind too. Guys get aggressive, confident and have a great mental mind set. When going completely off so many guys get depressed, nervous and feel timid. Hormones whether testosterone or estrogen have a powerful influence on your mental state. It seems this is never addressed. That's one of the reasons anabolic steroids are addictive.
You don't need to come off juice.
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so aas 365?
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That is a fact. You can drink and combine them with alcohol and never wake up. Most of the people responding to this thread have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
When you have an "episode" or a seizure it is more often than not b/c you have snorted the drug in very high doses ~ not only that. but you don't take another dose after the high.
Benzos like Alazropam require steady dosages of tolerable amounts - not to get high, but to stop anxiety, or possibly to put you to sleep (albeit NOT permanantly)
Benzos are too often used to bring people down after a stimulant rather than their intended use, which is to temporarily halt G.A.D (Generalized Anxiety Disorder) ~ as a recreational drug, they are a "no no"
You are just asking for trouble. They are also highly addictive. If the dose is not too high and you are only using what the doctor has prescribed and taking it when you should, you should not experience the episodes/seizures or much in the way of withdrawal.
There is a rebound effect that comes from steady use. If you don't just take the drug "as needed" (which some folks can do) you find that you will have "fake" panic attacks that can easily be tolerated if you just don't take the drug.
Kids these days like to snort their oxy and take their Vics along with a Redbull and some alcohol (all night) and then they expect to be able to use Xanax as if it were nothing. Xanax serves a valuable purpose, its just not a good choice for recreational doping as it does not mix well in concotions.
Valium will half a much longer half-life and leave you feeling groggy (even the next day) and is actually much more physically and mentally addicting.
Some solid folks would not have a life without Alazropam. Others would be well to keep their hands off of the stuff.
Taken as directed its fine and you don't need a methadone clinic to get off of it. Your dosage should never exceed more than a milligram and a half at one time. Anything more than that and you are probably looking to get high. Go smoke dope. Some people take Xanax just so they dont get anxiety from their weed. It's all about how you use it. It can either help you function daily as a *normal* human, or it can ruin your life (as can any drug or obsession)
If you are taking high amounts of xanax and stopp cold turkey you can have a seizure. it has nothing to do with snorting the drug. alot of these kid overdosing do not have prescriptions and thats the problem. they run out and they are fucked. they use to many to fast and if you dont really need the drug it is stupid to use. I really need the drug I have been diangnosed as haviing panick attack dissorder and OCD. I take them as prescribed and i doont get all tired like most people do. If you take them daily like I do that side effect wears off and you just live a good life where you do not get anxious and dont feel like your going to pass out in a busy location. I only use a little more at night to sleep thats when I get tired is when I use more than I am suppose to. but i have to do it to sleep. If I dont my mind will race all night my brain doosn't like shutting off. I just keep thinking of things. but if i take a extra tab of xanax this does not happen and I am able to pass out like a normal person and I getv good rem sleep. the pain killers do njot help me sleep they just nake it so I am not in oain and toiss and turb all night without them I wouldnt be able to sleep i would toss and turn all night. thats how bad my neck and back are and allso my glutes. they get very tingly if i am not on my pain meds. pain meds just make it so my quality of life is normal. same with the xanax I think it is a miracle drug. it helped with all my axiety issues and made me way more social and just in gneral a nicer person. I am on a strict contract with my oxycontin/oxycodone. they can call me in for pill counts they can call me in for UA's they have alot of control over me if thhey want to. but they ae usually cool about everything since all my UA's have been acurate and I have nvere ran out early.If I didnt need them i wouldn't take them but man xanax has done alot of good for me. I have seen people buse it and those ae the type of people who make me sick but they always end up crshing their car becsue they pass out at the wheel or withdraw because tey do not have a legal script,. dont take these drugs unless they are prescribed and follow the directions!
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RIP
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I used to take all sorts of shit for anxiety. xanax 4mg a day, klonopin 4mg a day, and lexapro. I weaned myself off of all of it a few years ago. it was fucking hell. the xanax was the easiest to kick. ironically, the lexapro which most would deem the safest, was the hardest. if I missed a dose my throat would tighten and it would be hard to breathe. it took me about a month or 2 until I was completely clean, and it was hard as fuck. I didn't do rehab or any of that, just sheer willpower. I am actually pretty proud that I was able to overcome it, and I deal with it and use breathing techniques when I have an anxiety attack now. like all things, they eventually pass. if I need to give a speech or presentation, I take a full dose of my beta blocker that I get for hypertension... it at least somewhat mutes the adrenal response.
I feel sad for the bros on here that are hopelessly hooked on this garbage. I feel like the shit is way over prescribed these days, and while I had a legit need, I feel in the long run it also harmed me a fair share for the good that it did. I appreciate the mental clarity that I have these days, and would never be on these drugs full time again.
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I used to take all sorts of shit for anxiety. xanax 4mg a day, klonopin 4mg a day, and lexapro. I weaned myself off of all of it a few years ago. it was fucking hell. the xanax was the easiest to kick. ironically, the lexapro which most would deem the safest, was the hardest. if I missed a dose my throat would tighten and it would be hard to breathe. it took me about a month or 2 until I was completely clean, and it was hard as fuck. I didn't do rehab or any of that, just sheer willpower. I am actually pretty proud that I was able to overcome it, and I deal with it and use breathing techniques when I have an anxiety attack now. like all things, they eventually pass. if I need to give a speech or presentation, I take a full dose of my beta blocker that I get for hypertension... it at least somewhat mutes the adrenal response.
I feel sad for the bros on here that are hopelessly hooked on this garbage. I feel like the shit is way over prescribed these days, and while I had a legit need, I feel in the long run it also harmed me a fair share for the good that it did. I appreciate the mental clarity that I have these days, and would never be on these drugs full time again.
Props - it takes huge willpower to handle such things.
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I see addictions to 200-400 mgs Valium a day regularly...
Jesus Christ.....they must have some serious seizures trying to come off of an amount that huge.
Valium addiction is one of the worst to try to kick.
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Jesus Christ.....they must have some serious seizures trying to come off of an amount that huge.
Valium addiction is one of the worst to try to kick.
We usually give them anticonvulsives when detoxing..