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when doing keto .. is it better to keep on going or to do a cheat day every 4-6 days? Why?
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when doing keto .. is it better to keep on going or to do a cheat day every 4-6 days? Why?
cheat day , stay sane
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i have never went zero carbs. but i would always have a cheat day once a week while dieting. your body goes into starvation mode it tricks it into burning more fat. this especially happens when you get below 5%..of course that was when i competed now i have a cheat day everyday
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when doing keto .. is it better to keep on going or to do a cheat day every 4-6 days? Why?
I would imagine that metabolism would slow to a crawl after doing keto for an extended period of time. A cheat meal would help.
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Are you on keto now?
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when doing keto .. is it better to keep on going or to do a cheat day every 4-6 days? Why?
Why are you doing a ketogenic diet ??? holding mass is difficult like this, no??
your body goes into starvation mode it tricks it into burning more fat.
Please explain the science behind this.
Starvation mode lowers your BMR, so what benefit are we seeing here.......
PT
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Why are you doing a ketogenic diet ??? holding mass is difficult like this, no??
Please explain the science behind this.
Starvation mode lowers your BMR, so what benefit are we seeing here.......
PT
you shirnk like nothing especially I am not on hormones ... but it's the fastest way for sure
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you shirnk like nothing especially I am not on hormones ... but it's the fastest way for sure
Holding mass would be a better option though, no??
Especially if you are not doing test.
PT
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so cheating only helps mentally I guess
my clients do not cheat and it works fine .. I do cheat every week and also drink when I cheat. It fucks me up for a day or 2 and then it's back to normal.
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Holding mass would be a better option though, no??
Especially if you are not doing test.
PT
true .. however I do not care. I will have enough muscle to create the look or the illusion. I only care about being sliced to the bone.
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true .. however I do not care. I will have enough muscle to create the look or the illusion. I only care about being sliced to the bone.
So when are we seeing the results of the test free, keto cut??
PT
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So when are we seeing the results of the test free, keto cut??
PT
As soon as Adonis posts his current pic
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Natural keto is not such a good idea, cleanex...
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Natural keto is not such a good idea, cleanex...
I will reserve judgment untill the pics.
Plus my NYR was to not bate Sev in 2012.
PT
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Tried it some time ago and it worked great. A cheat day is in reality a refuel for your muscles.
A normal calorie diet worked the same for me.
Both cases leave you stringy/empty after a while if you go too low on calories.
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Never did keto but on low carbs once under 10% and if you're not juicing= massive muscle loss. A cheat day won't change much I guess. Probably some water and glycogen and not even noticeable.
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when doing keto .. is it better to keep on going or to do a cheat day every 4-6 days? Why?
leptin increase and glycogen repletion. No cheat days...very high carb day btw.
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Never did keto but on low carbs once under 10% and if you're not juicing= massive muscle loss. A cheat day won't change much I guess. Probably some water and glycogen and not even noticeable.
I don't like extremely low carb diets myself but I think most naturals lose a ton of muscle once going under certain bf levels anyway. And if you're on a ketogenic diet you need the glycogen storage in order to workout and try to minimize muscle loss.
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when doing keto .. is it better to keep on going or to do a cheat day every 4-6 days? Why?
CKD is what you are looking for to do .. ( I think ) ... sorry if I'm mistaken but Lyle's plan is what you should read up on
http://thinkmuscle.com/nutrition/cyclical-ketogenic-diet-carbing-up/
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Carb cycling is the answer to your problems.
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Carb cycling is the answer to your problems.
This - I found doing it this way works best
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Carb cycling is the answer to your problems.
This.
No carb diets are shitty to train on and you might feel like ass all week. You might end up feeling well on them but you might fuck up the carb up eating too much and spend the day in a glucose induced coma. Carb cycling works better for most since it's a lot more flexible and you can adjust your carb levels as you see fit.
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The problem with carb cycling is that (once again if natural or clean), you will never get sliced. Unless you maybe do it all year long. On a 12 week cycle, you lose fat very fast at first but once again, hit 10% and below and just see how your body holds to the fat and water when you carb up and how much muscle you lose on the low car days.
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cheat day , stay sane
true getbiggers don't need comfort hugs, they go all the way till the end without any "CHEAT meals", tssssh!
besides sevastase is a humanoid alien hybrid so staying sane while having low carb diet should be a cake walk ;D
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i have never went zero carbs. but i would always have a cheat day once a week while dieting. your body goes into starvation mode it tricks it into burning more fat. this especially happens when you get below 5%..of course that was when i competed now i have a cheat day everyday
Starvation mode? If you are still eating...there is not 'starvation mode'.....Sev, true ketogenic type of diets won't do 'cheat days', per se....its more of a carb up. You actually should be trying to limit fat intake on those days. If you can't find Lyle McDonalds "The Ketogenic Diet" book anywhere ....let me know, I can help you out...PM me.
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If you can't find Lyle McDonalds "The Ketogenic Diet" book anywhere ....let me know,
http://thinkmuscle.com/nutrition/cyclical-ketogenic-diet-carbing-up/
PT
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CKD is what you are looking for to do .. ( I think ) ... sorry if I'm mistaken but Lyle's plan is what you should read up on
http://thinkmuscle.com/nutrition/cyclical-ketogenic-diet-carbing-up/
That was ages ago, he's invented the UD2.0 since
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/ultimate-diet-20 (http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/ultimate-diet-20)
7 day cyclical keto program,
5 days low-carbs, 1 carb refeed, 1 maintenance day
4 workouts a week, 2 depletion, one power, one hypertrophy
Supposedly cuts you up without losing any muscle, some people on his forum have even gotten more muscular
It's a damn demanding schedule though
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That was ages ago, he's invented the UD2.0 since
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/ultimate-diet-20 (http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/ultimate-diet-20)
7 day cyclical keto program,
5 days low-carbs, 1 carb refeed, 1 maintenance day
4 workouts a week, 2 depletion, one power, one hypertrophy
Supposedly cuts you up without losing any muscle, some people on his forum have even gotten more muscular
It's a damn demanding schedule though
Sev, could do it though.
PT
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I doubt that Keto yields better results than eating what you want but staying in a caloric deficit.
working out, doing cardio and staying in a caloric deficit should be enough to get you where ever it is you want to go.
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Sev, could do it though.
PT
lolol
I give ya a month before you're at his throat again ;D
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leptin increase and glycogen repletion. No cheat days...very high carb day btw.
Bingo
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That was ages ago, he's invented the UD2.0 since
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/ultimate-diet-20 (http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/ultimate-diet-20)
7 day cyclical keto program,
5 days low-carbs, 1 carb refeed, 1 maintenance day
4 workouts a week, 2 depletion, one power, one hypertrophy
Supposedly cuts you up without losing any muscle, some people on his forum have even gotten more muscular
It's a damn demanding schedule though
I tried to read his UD book...unless he revised it, I am not sure I could do it...CKD was phenomenal...but truth be told, I really got more sick of the carb up days than the keto days. I stopped craving all those foods...and dreaded buying them after a while (frosted flakes, low fat cookies, low fat chips....)
The one main thing though...the day after the carb ups...PHENOMENAL training day
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I tried to read his UD book...unless he revised it, I am not sure I could do it...CKD was phenomenal...but truth be told, I really got more sick of the carb up days than the keto days. I stopped craving all those foods...and dreaded buying them after a while (frosted flakes, low fat cookies, low fat chips....)
The one main thing though...the day after the carb ups...PHENOMENAL training day
lol, I think you mean the ketogenic diet... that one is massive, more than 300 pages
the ultimate diet 2.0 is about 70 if I remember rightly
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lol, I think you mean the ketogenic diet... that one is massive, more than 300 pages
the ultimate diet 2.0 is about 70 if I remember rightly
I think he meant the structure of the program. I read a few pages of the ud2 myself and just ended up saying to hell with it.
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lolol
I give ya a month before you're at his throat again ;D
Haha, probably.........
Although, I give credit where it's due, he has been in better condition than a LOT of people who post here.
That one shot where he is wearing jeans/hands in front, he is shredded to bits.
I think he could do it, how he will look at the end with out any Test in the mix is another story.
PT
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A woman's place is in the kitchen.
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lol, I think you mean the ketogenic diet... that one is massive, more than 300 pages
the ultimate diet 2.0 is about 70 if I remember rightly
No, I read the Keto book, it had nothing to do with the length I AM referring to the UD one...just something about it just made me just not want to finish reading it.
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I think he meant the structure of the program. I read a few pages of the ud2 myself and just ended up saying to hell with it.
^^^
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can be a psychological help