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I had a mild overdose on Ephedrine sunday early in the morning, at around 9 am. Rushed to the ER, had all exams done, no neurological, cardiovascular or digestive damage.
My question is, I want to keep on shedding fat, Im close to my ideal, how long should I wait before I start again? What dose should I start with? How imbecile is this idea? And, lastly, is there any chance that by consumig low doses again, I will get intoxicated faster/sooner/always? I dont want to rush into the ER for this again because Id probably be sent to rehab.
This is a serious thread, so besides trollans you can also try to chip in,
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what symptoms did you have on the overdose? describe
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Don't take so much. Problem solved.
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what symptoms did you have on the overdose? describe
Horrible unsustainable nausea, elevated heartbeat of course, tremors, couldnt speak or think clearly, sweaty, horrible intestinal spasms and the doc said I was talking nonsense.
Vomiting and headaches too of course.
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Don't take so much. Problem solved.
Ok, for the second part of the thread....
"My question is, I want to keep on shedding fat, Im close to my ideal, how long should I wait before I start again? What dose should I start with? How imbecile is this idea? And, lastly, is there any chance that by consumig low doses again, I will get intoxicated faster/sooner/always? I dont want to rush into the ER for this again because Id probably be sent to rehab."
I honestly do understand I fucked up.
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hahaha, overdose on ephedrine, what a joke. all the symptoms you listed are essentially what it's like to be on clen or a real amphetamine before your body gets desensitized to it
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Horrible unsustainable nausea, elevated heartbeat of course, tremors, couldnt speak or think clearly, sweaty, horrible intestinal spasms and the doc said I was talking nonsense.
Where you screaming gh15 is the king of hormones? Or, I don't need a doctor somebody call gh15
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hahaha, overdose on ephedrine, what a joke. all the symptoms you listed are essentially what it's like to be on clen or a real amphetamine before your body gets desensitized to it
Are you retarded? I almost passed out, I threw up for hours, I wasnt thinking clearly and not able to speak...That is not clen, dolt. And the stomach spasms, the inability to breathe, etc.
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It's in and out of your system fast. You can start tomorrow. 2x a day, each time at 25mg Eph. 200 caffeine. Don't go higher because you seem to be sensitive to the stuff. Just run it longer.
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Where you screaming gh15 is the king of hormones? Or, I don't need a doctor somebody call gh15
I tried to flirt with the nurses and docs but my white face and puked body werent sexy.
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This is a serious thread,
btw, for future reference to anyone else on here- whenever you type "This is a serious thread" be prepared for it to be flamed
Pat Banya did the same thing in his thread
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This really isn't the place for serious questions such as yours, bro...
Both parts of your thread are probably addressed on the bodyrecomposition forum
They've got a massive page on ephedrine/caffeine: http://forums.lylemcdonald.com/showthread.php?t=645
there are many factors
how much do you weight? at what height?
what dose were you taking? did you increase it recently? did you start straight from it or work your way to it? how long were you on that dose?
were you taking eph alone or did stack with caffeine and aspirin?
do you drink? what were the conditions at the time of your "overdose" (things like context)
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It's in and out of your system fast. You can start tomorrow. 2x a day, each time at 25mg Eph. 200 caffeine. Don't go higher because you seem to be sensitive to the stuff. Just run it longer.
I took 150 mg in 10 hours span. Thank you for the answer though. Another thing, I still feel minor heart racing, Im pretty sure its not out of my body completely yet...
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This really isn't the place for serious questions such as yours, bro...
Both parts of your thread are probably addressed on the bodyrecomposition forum
They've got a massive page on ephedrine/caffeine: http://forums.lylemcdonald.com/showthread.php?t=645
there are many factors
how much do you weight? at what height?
what dose were you taking? did you increase it recently? did you start straight from it or work your way to it? how long were you on that dose?
were you taking eph alone or did stack with caffeine and aspirin?
do you drink? what were the conditions at the time of your "overdose" (things like context)
Yeah, I read BR always, its my bible. I was drunk as shit and took to many doses, do no bother asking why I did that, I just did. I had shed lots of that bulking fat so I was on and off for like 4 months (shorter cycles).
80 kilos, 175 cm, at around 9 %BF
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You need to back off the dose and up the coffee a bit. If you are taking that much, well....that's too much. Do some cardio and drink water and watch your appetite coming off that much ECA because mine goes up bad.
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Yeah, I read BR always, its my bible. I was drunk as shit and took to many doses, do no bother asking why I did that, I just did. I had shed lots of that bulking fat so I was on and off for like 4 months (shorter cycles).
80 kilos, 175 cm, at around 9 %BF
If you tried to do what I think you tried, you probably have bigger problems than losing weight...
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Keep some of this on hand
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activated_carbon
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If you tried to do what I think you tried, you probably have bigger problems than losing weight...
Nope, not suicide, but I understand the concern, the docs told me the same. I think it is related to me being obssessed with my looks and all that, which is not sane by anymeans but whatever.
Also, I dont post in BR because its really slow and you have a faster pseudo knowledgable board on drugs here.
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Are you retarded? I almost passed out, I threw up for hours, I wasnt thinking clearly and not able to speak...That is not clen, dolt. And the stomach spasms, the inability to breathe, etc.
almost passed out? i feel like i'm going to pass out whenever i'm on clen and try to do any lifting. what you are feeling is pretty common from taking a lot of stimulants, you can say you overdosed but having a racing heart rate is pretty normal so is getting light headed when you do anything strenuous taking beta agonists
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I had a mild overdose on Ephedrine sunday early in the morning, at around 9 am. Rushed to the ER, had all exams done, no neurological, cardiovascular or digestive damage.
My question is, I want to keep on shedding fat, Im close to my ideal, how long should I wait before I start again? What dose should I start with? How imbecile is this idea? And, lastly, is there any chance that by consumig low doses again, I will get intoxicated faster/sooner/always? I dont want to rush into the ER for this again because Id probably be sent to rehab.
This is a serious thread, so besides trollans you can also try to chip in,
i call bullshit
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I took 150 mg in 10 hours span. Thank you for the answer though. Another thing, I still feel minor heart racing, Im pretty sure its not out of my body completely yet...
Yeah, I read BR always, its my bible. I was drunk as shit and took to many doses, do no bother asking why I did that, I just did. I had shed lots of that bulking fat so I was on and off for like 4 months (shorter cycles).
80 kilos, 175 cm, at around 9 %BF
ah, ok, i didn't read this. yes you took too much of it hahaha
you should be fine though, people have been in worse shape from overdosing on things like clen. there are actually people that run that stuff up to 150mcg a day and get tachycardia and all kinds of issues from it but they are fine after the cycle (barring any left left ventricle hypertrophy)
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Are you retarded? I almost passed out, I threw up for hours, I wasnt thinking clearly and not able to speak...That is not clen, dolt. And the stomach spasms, the inability to breathe, etc.
natural selection.
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I had a mild overdose on Ephedrine sunday early in the morning, at around 9 am. Rushed to the ER, had all exams done, no neurological, cardiovascular or digestive damage.
My question is, I want to keep on shedding fat, Im close to my ideal, how long should I wait before I start again? What dose should I start with? How imbecile is this idea? And, lastly, is there any chance that by consumig low doses again, I will get intoxicated faster/sooner/always? I dont want to rush into the ER for this again because Id probably be sent to rehab.
This is a serious thread, so besides trollans you can also try to chip in,
Ephedrine is completely unnecessary for weight loss. The side effects are terrible, and it is not really effective. Also, combined with caffeine, it seriously increases your risk of having an ischemic stroke - caffeine constricts your blood vessels and ephedrine boosts heart rate to a degree comparable to cocaine. The two combined thus dramatically increase blood pressure. Caffeine plus ephedrine increase metabolic rate by a measly 10%, so 10% more fat burning. Is it worth it? Also, an increased metabolic rate comes at the cost of higher oxidative stress and thus accelerated ageing.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Question...
What is the difference between Ephedra and Ephedrine?
I used to take ephedra back in the day when it was still legal!
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over dosed on ECA stack ??? ??? ::) ::)
next thing you know, he will over dose on whey protein
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Ephedrine is completely unnecessary for weight loss. The side effects are terrible, and it is not really effective. Also, combined with caffeine, it seriously increases your risk of having an ischemic stroke - caffeine constricts your blood vessels and ephedrine boosts heart rate to a degree comparable to cocaine. The two combined thus dramatically increase blood pressure. Caffeine plus ephedrine increase metabolic rate by a measly 10%, so 10% more fat burning. Is it worth it? Also, an increased metabolic rate comes at the cost of higher oxidative stress and thus accelerated ageing.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
The chances of ischemic stroke are negligible at the safest recommended doses.
Also the EC stack has a muscle-sparing effect, which is invaluable when dieting.
Further the increase to metabolic rate is not set, but rises over time.
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Question...
What is the difference between Ephedra and Ephedrine?
I used to take ephedra back in the day when it was still legal!
Ephedra is the naturally occuring chemical, ephedrine is done in labs
Ephedrine is completely unnecessary for weight loss. The side effects are terrible, and it is not really effective. Also, combined with caffeine, it seriously increases your risk of having an ischemic stroke - caffeine constricts your blood vessels and ephedrine boosts heart rate to a degree comparable to cocaine. The two combined thus dramatically increase blood pressure. Caffeine plus ephedrine increase metabolic rate by a measly 10%, so 10% more fat burning. Is it worth it? Also, an increased metabolic rate comes at the cost of higher oxidative stress and thus accelerated ageing.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Yeah and beta receptors agonism, you dont know everything of drugs contrary to what you think.
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over dosed on ECA stack ??? ??? ::) ::)
next thing you know, he will over dose on whey protein
Yup, it is exactly the same to take a sympathomimetic than to eat a macronutrient.
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Getting hammered and then loading up on ephedrine!? Shrewd.
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Nope, not suicide, but I understand the concern, the docs told me the same. I think it is related to me being obssessed with my looks and all that, which is not sane by anymeans but whatever.
Also, I dont post in BR because its really slow and you have a faster pseudo knowledgable board on drugs here.
Were you given an MRI? Did they look into your brain
Also, seeing as there is a risk for heart damage as well, were you given a heart ultrasound?
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Were you given an MRI? Did they look into your brain
Also, seeing as there is a risk for heart damage as well, were you given a heart ultrasound?
Yes, all exams turned out negative, no cardiovascular or neurological damage, gladly.
This is a pic from the clinic last night.
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Yes, all exams turned out negative, no cardiovascular or neurological damage, gladly.
This is a pic from the clinic last night.
yeah, but did they do a heart ultrasound? I'm not taking about an EKG. An ultrasound is where the doctor scans you with a probe over your chest- much like they do with pregnant women- and can see clear images of your heart, all chambers, and the arteries leading into it. That test can take two hours and it's uncomfortable because you have to keep in your breath for most of it (so that clear images can be taken). I know because I had one in 2010- I was taking ephedrine at that time and was concerned after I stopped.
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yeah, but did they do a heart ultrasound? I'm not taking about an EKG. An ultrasound is where the doctor scans you with a probe over your chest- much like they do with pregnant women- and can see clear images of your heart, all chambers, and the arteries leading into it. That test can take two hours and it's uncomfortable because you have to keep in your breath for most of it (so that clear images can be taken). I know because I had one in 2010- I was taking ephedrine at that time and was concerned after I stopped.
Yes, had that too, it was like 30 mins only though.
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Well, if you read BR, you know that the max recommended is sixty mg per twenty four hours... split over three doses. and you only ever go above that if it's not affecting you in the least.
You can probably start over again, give yourself a break, like a week or two. It wouldn't be a bad idea to take a break and eat at maintenance... how long have you been dieting for?
Also, why the rush? If you take eph long enough, combined with a sufficient deficit, you'll definitely lose weight.
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I took 150 mg in 10 hours span.
oh crap! with caff and aspirin too?
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ephedra is name of plant, ephedrine is the compound that's in it that's good for asthma and lean
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Well, if you read BR, you know that the max recommended is sixty mg per twenty four hours... split over three doses. and you only ever go above that if it's not affecting you in the least.
You can probably start over again, give yourself a break, like a week or two. It wouldn't be a bad idea to take a break and eat at maintenance... how long have you been dieting for?
Also, why the rush? If you take eph long enough, combined with a sufficient deficit, you'll definitely lose weight.
The rush is vacationn coming up in a week and a half and me having the remnants of love handles, likesmall but Im very conscious about it. It trully is a ridiculous concern but fuck me, its the whole reason I got int weights for starters, being self conscious. Maybe its also that Im pretty ireresponsible and have tried mixing drugs before...its not the first time I take a stupid decision of this kind.
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oh crap! with caff and aspirin too?
No aspirin, yes caff, weed and alcohol.
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The chances of ischemic stroke are negligible at the safest recommended doses
Actually, it isn't. Several European governments have withdrawn ephedra and ephedrine-containing products from the market due to several people dying of strokes from it.
Also the EC stack has a muscle-sparing effect, which is invaluable when dieting.
Sources?
Further the increase to metabolic rate is not set, but rises over time.
Actually, it decreases over time as beta-adrenergic receptors downregulate, and you have to take more and more ephedrine to get the thermogenic boost.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Jesus... you sound like the type of guy who could get high off a cigarette.
Use less ephedrine and just be concious of your blood sugar levels and what you've eaten in the last while. If you wig out again just stay calm, eat some food and remember to breath. It's only ephedrine, dude lol
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I took ephedrine for 5 years straight without any break and never had any problems.
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Jesus... you sound like the type of guy who could get high off a cigarette.
Use less ephedrine and just be concious of your blood sugar levels and what you've eaten in the last while. If you wig out again just stay calm, eat some food and remember to breath. It's only ephedrine, dude lol
This is what I fear man, I do this every day, but this one time fueck out of my brain I screw up.
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oh yeah, with all that, it was just a panic attack, right? normal.
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Up the dose, caffeine, throw in some yohimbe and swallow about 5 scoops of Jack3d.
You should be at your goal BF% within and hour or so. Probably dead also, but you will hit your number.
Go Hard!
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oh yeah, with all that, it was just a panic attack, right? normal.
I was scared, yes, but the level of nausea and intestinal pain I was feeling right before getting to the clinic was something I had never felt before, and I had once gone through food poisoning for 9 hours puking. Luckily I took the decision to go to the clinic fast, I think I skipped the worse part.
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Up the dose.
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I was scared, yes, but the level of nausea and intestinal pain I was feeling right before getting to the clinic was something I had never felt before, and I had once gone through food poisoning for 9 hours puking. Luckily I took the decision to go to the clinic fast, I think I skipped the worse part.
You could have just chilled out and rode it out too. The clinic can't do anything... maybe give you some fluids and that's about it.
Next time, please don't be a pussy and waste a valuable hospital bed because you can't handle your shit. That's really bad form.
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Up the dose, caffeine, throw in some yohimbe and swallow about 5 scoops of Jack3d.
You should be at your goal BF% within and hour or so. Probably dead also, but you will hit your number.
Go Hard!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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You could have just chilled out and rode it out too. The clinic can't do anything... maybe give you some fluids and that's about it.
Next time, please don't be a pussy and waste a valuable hospital bed because you can't handle your shit. That's really bad form.
I deserve all the insults, but no, there was no way I was riding it out, I was about to pass out of pain and puke.
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You could have just chilled out and rode it out too. The clinic can't do anything... maybe give you some fluids and that's about it.
Next time, please don't be a pussy and waste a valuable hospital bed because you can't handle your shit. That's really bad form.
;D
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over dosed on ECA stack ??? ??? ::) ::)
next thing you know, he will over dose on whey protein
HAHA!!
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Up the dose, caffeine, throw in some yohimbe and swallow about 5 scoops of Jack3d.
You should be at your goal BF% within and hour or so. Probably dead also, but you will hit your number.
Go Hard!
The "more is better syndrome" at it`s finest! ;D
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I deserve all the insults, but no, there was no way I was riding it out, I was about to pass out of pain and puke.
You should have just puked and rode it out. You weren't going to pass out, you were feeding your anxiety which is exacerbated by stimulants.
No insults this time, but seriously don't take up a fucking hospital bed. That's a very shameful and embarrassing thing to do, not to mentioned disgusting for people who have a legitimate illness and need to be tended to.
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Geez man, one day out and your already wanting back on?? How about you stick to some good old diet to hit your goals from here... Take a break from the stims. Seriously bro, it sounds like you have a problem.
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Geez man, one day out and your already wanting back on?? How about you stick to some good old diet to hit your goals from here... Take a break from the stims. Seriously bro, it sounds like you have a problem.
I do, and I will stick to diet for a week at least. :(
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I do, and I will stick to diet for a week at least. :(
What is it you like? The high feeling from ephidrine, that it keeps you going?? Do you feel dependent on it? Or more the fact that it's contributing to your goals with your physique?
If it's more the last question there are alternatives. I've gotten ripped with no stims before
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What is it you like? The high feeling from ephidrine, that it keeps you going?? Do you feel dependent on it? Or more the fact that it's contributing to your goals with your physique?
If it's more the last question there are alternatives. I've gotten ripped with no stims before
Well, lets put it this way, I have experimented with simpler drugs before, benzos, coke, LSD, shrooms, weed, Popper (no homo though), alcohol, and the likes, I never got caught on any, all of them I do no longer except for weed which I no longer buy and alcohol which I am dependant. Other than that, its because it makes dieting, trainiing, eating so much easier and nejoyable, pretty simple. It s mixture of enjoying experimentation and the easyness it provides.
Also, these type of dumb drunk decisions I have talen before, it just never involved a drug of this type.
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oh yeah, with all that, it was just a panic attack, right? normal.
This^^^
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I do, and I will stick to diet for a week at least. :(
lol you didn't learn your lesson did you
sounds like you have a dependency on drugs to make you feel normal,,, maybe you should get help before you do something stupid again
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just what the fuck in hell is the point of this thread anyway?
Whoring for attention telling us your dumb story about how you failed your last suicide attempt ? What do you want us to say? Booo oooo little spoonfed piece of shit wants some love from strangers on the internet cause he cant get it in real life from anyone. Dont you have anything better to do with your life than smoking weed, getting drunk then overdosing on ephedrine?
Why are we suposed to give a damn about your story? You re basically telling us "hey guys , look at me, im dumb, im almost intentianoly killed myself, but im still alive! " Ok ? And?
Get help, quick. From real life people.
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I had a mild overdose on Ephedrine sunday early in the morning, at around 9 am. Rushed to the ER, had all exams done, no neurological, cardiovascular or digestive damage.
My question is, I want to keep on shedding fat, Im close to my ideal, how long should I wait before I start again? What dose should I start with? How imbecile is this idea? And, lastly, is there any chance that by consumig low doses again, I will get intoxicated faster/sooner/always? I dont want to rush into the ER for this again because Id probably be sent to rehab.
This is a serious thread, so besides trollans you can also try to chip in,
1) You mixed ephedrine with alcohol... you dont need us to tell you how fucking stupid that is... next time dont take ephedrine and alcohol
2) if you still feel elevated heart rate, chances are your having some anxiety from your episode, or maybe mild panic attacks... that stuff should be out of your system by now
3) as most people will say, diet and cardio does wonders for fat loss... but if you wanted to add something in the mix ( other than injectibles), i would recommend 50-75mcg of T3 daily. go do some research as regards to tapering up and down
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Horrible unsustainable nausea, elevated heartbeat of course, tremors, couldnt speak or think clearly, sweaty, horrible intestinal spasms and the doc said I was talking nonsense.
Vomiting and headaches too of course.
the docs want you to think you are crazy so they can put you on more pills
as we age we cant handle the stimulants
since we all die eventually our blood vessels get more and more narrower no matter what thus any kind of stimulants will start to feel more like heart attacks than stimulation
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Yes, all exams turned out negative, no cardiovascular or neurological damage, gladly.
This is a pic from the clinic last night.
you beleive what the shit inferior machines tell you. these machines dont know shit, if they knew something there would be alot less deaths
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One time in the early 90's I took advantage of the elevated BP effect and devised a very nice plan...
I took 50mg ephedrine and 200 caffeine, waited about 90 minutes, then I went to the docs. He took my BP and it was 180/120. I made up the story about work stress and I got time off work with full pay for 6 months.
Pretty slick huh? ;D 8)
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1) You mixed ephedrine with alcohol... you dont need us to tell you how fucking stupid that is... next time dont take ephedrine and alcohol
2) if you still feel elevated heart rate, chances are your having some anxiety from your episode, or maybe mild panic attacks... that stuff should be out of your system by now
3) as most people will say, diet and cardio does wonders for fat loss... but if you wanted to add something in the mix ( other than injectibles), i would recommend 50-75mcg of T3 daily. go do some research as regards to tapering up and down
no need to taper t3, it's suppressive regardless
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Errr... thanks but no thanks, what's the point of bothering with your stupidities? the last time you were caught at a contradiction you had the thread deleted. (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=411671.0)
Same with the next three threads that pointed out your deletion of the initial one
(http://i.imgur.com/FRLEz.jpg)
Go fuck your mother instead.
Epic meltdown! ;D Lol, fucking owned like a bitch again. I accept your admission of defeat. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Keep some of this on hand
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activated_carbon
good post
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Did he die?
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I had a mild overdose on Ephedrine sunday early in the morning, at around 9 am. Rushed to the ER, had all exams done, no neurological, cardiovascular or digestive damage.
My question is, I want to keep on shedding fat, Im close to my ideal, how long should I wait before I start again? What dose should I start with? How imbecile is this idea? And, lastly, is there any chance that by consumig low doses again, I will get intoxicated faster/sooner/always? I dont want to rush into the ER for this again because Id probably be sent to rehab.
This is a serious thread, so besides trollans you can also try to chip in,
Are you willing to Die just to get ripped?
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How does it compare to pseudo-ephedrine?
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I honestly do understand I'm fucked up.
Fixed.