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Focused on every squeeze, not just moving weights like most do.
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Focused on every squeeze, not just moving weights like most do.
I used to love to read all of his training articles. I have been doing a HIT style training routine for yrs now, inspired by Yates. Great results, no injuries
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I used to love to read all of his training articles. I have been doing a HIT style training routine for yrs now, inspired by Yates. Great results, no injuries
He's inspiring in many ways: his training vids, articles & seminars. I've always trained with average to low volume, but going to failure every(!) workout doesn't work for me; too much pain in the joints and a tired CNS. I rely on heavy-average days, call it periodisation.
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so....
anterior dumbel raise
chest press machine
chest fly machine
cable fly
shoulder press machine
lateral dumbel raise
lateral cable raise
shrug machine
cable tricep push down
machine tricep extension
french curl
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I agree about CNS. I can overdo it some times but my joints are great. Been lifting 17yrs too
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dorian locks out on pressing movements, what about the theory quality reps mean no locking out?
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dorian locks out on pressing movements, what about the theory quality reps mean no locking out?
Maximum contraction at the end of a rep requires a lockout
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Maximum contraction at the end of a rep requires a lockout
interesting
does this mean he contracts really hard when locked out?
would hurt my elbow couse hyper extension
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Maximum contraction at the end of a rep requires a lockout
the secret is not overdoing the lockout like some people do when lifting
generally joints are made for full contractions of the muscles around
if humans jump or push or trow things they allways lock out
has been like this for million of years, and i don t see a problem for the health of the joints if done correctly
btw i see a problem if bodybuilder do just partial reps in the gym and then have to do some real athletic activities
for those people severe injuries are around the corner
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My CNS always gets way overdone trying to workout like he does... 4 weeks in and I feel like death.
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the secret is not overdoing the lockout like some people do when lifting
generally joints are made for full contractions of the muscles around
if humans jump or push or trow things they allways lock out
has been like this for million of years, and i don t see a problem for the health of the joints if done correctly
btw i see a problem if bodybuilder do just partial reps in the gym and the have to do some real athletic activities
for those people severe injuries are around the corner
Of course. For me personally, I have to go easy on the lockout working tris. I have really long arms and with my hands close together on pushdowns, it seems like the risk for hyperextension is greater. I dont see any problems locking out on chest or shoulders and I always push to use heavier weights and have no joint issues whatsoever
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My CNS always gets way overdone trying to workout like he does... 4 weeks in and I feel like death.
that s the usual problem of HIT-trainers
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increase the stress slowly (don t do forced reps from the beginning for example then just start with forced reps, rest pause and so on with 1 exercise and increase slowly) in other words be patient
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listen to your body and
- do a additional rest day if you feel not ready to train ( an ths means that it s almost certain that doing every muscle every seven days or twice a weak or the usuall mathematic things people are doing religiously, is NOT the optimum)
- stop working out if you feel done but have not complete the whole workout you were aiming for , sometimes for example it s better to stop after the 3rd exercise instead of doing the 4th like planned
- reps have to be done in a controlled manner with means slower, and doing them slower means to do less reps, because it s not abot the numer of reps its about the time and the tension, tension depends on weight , and again, if you go slower you have to do less reps to go heavy
+ to many reps exhaust the body to much, while they dont stimulate growth as effective as 4-7 rep range going slow and heavy
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Basically a carb depletion workout hence the sub max sets and lots of machines.
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Bloofy. Wouldn't even place top 6 nowadays.
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Heath & Kai = Superior
Evolution
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that s the usual problem of HIT-trainers
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increase the stress slowly (don t do forced reps from the beginning for example then just start with forced reps, rest pause and so on with 1 exercise and increase slowly) in other words be patient
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listen to your body and
- do a additional rest day if you feel not ready to train ( an ths means that it s almost certain that doing every muscle every seven days or twice a weak or the usuall mathematic things people are doing religiously, is NOT the optimum)
- stop working out if you feel done but have not complete the whole workout you were aiming for , sometimes for example it s better to stop after the 3rd exercise instead of doing the 4th like planned
- reps have to be done in a controlled manner with means slower, and doing them slower means to do less reps, because it s not abot the numer of reps its about the time and the tension, tension depends on weight , and again, if you go slower you have to do less reps to go heavy
+ to many reps exhaust the body to much, while they dont stimulate growth as effective as 4-7 rep range going slow and heavy
I dont do negatives. take my sets all-out and that's it. I will get my overload by getting stronger every week not by getting assisted lifts. Maybe that's why I dont really see all this "taxed CNS" everyone brings up
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Bloofy. Wouldn't even place top 6 nowadays.
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Heath & Kai = Superior
Evolution
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The Goat, everyone else = site injections.
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Basically a carb depletion workout hence the sub max sets and lots of machines.
exactly
he only worked out like this 3-5 days out
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The Goat, everyone else = site injections.
anyone elese see that todays bodybuilders like heath often lack size of the quadriceps while the thighs are big, but the size is not in the quadrizeps
als big adductors and big asses like a fat woman
the biggest part of dorians legs were pretty much the quadrizeps like it should be
without overpowering ass and inner thighs
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I dont do negatives. take my sets all-out and that's it. I will get my overload by getting stronger every week not by getting assisted lifts. Maybe that's why I dont really see all this "taxed CNS" everyone brings up
yes, thats a good way to go
forced reps i feel weaken me and are not effectiv at all
i don t even see the theorie behind this " let your partner do the work" reps
instead i of those i use rest pause reps to increase intensity and sometimes do some partial rpes to extend the set
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anyone elese see that todays bodybuilders like heath often lack size of the quadriceps while the thighs are big, but the size is not in the quadrizeps
als big adductors and big asses like a fat woman
the biggest part of dorians legs were pretty much the quadrizeps like it should be
without overpowering ass and inner thighs
I know exactly what you mean, perfect example was Kamali, huge legs but small quads per se.
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I know exactly what you mean, perfect example was Kamali, huge legs but small quads per se.
yes !
kamali good example or gustavo badell
exception today is maybe just dennis wolf
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I know exactly what you mean, perfect example was Kamali, huge legs but small quads per se.
excellent quads here
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma96b4rmgk1ro08z3o1_500.jpg)
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excellent quads here
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma96b4rmgk1ro08z3o1_500.jpg)
Outsweep is good, but he needs more thickness on the inner part
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yes, thats a good way to go
forced reps i feel weaken me and are not effectiv at all
i don t even see the theorie behind this " let your partner do the work" reps
instead i of those i use rest pause reps to increase intensity and sometimes do some partial rpes to extend the set
X2......I feel the very same way......nice post.
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Bloofy. Wouldn't even place top 6 nowadays.
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Incredible shot. Bodybuilding has "de-evolved".
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Focused on every squeeze, not just moving weights like most do.
but his shoulders were never anything close to others with better genetics in this area.. genetics is the main thing in this sport..
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but his shoulders were never anything close to others with better genetics in this area.. genetics is the main thing in this sport..
Yeah, but it depends on his poses. When he's just standing, you can notice his wide waist which make his delts look average. But his delts look good during a front/rear lat spread.
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Yeah, but it depends on his poses. When he's just standing, you can notice his wide waist which make his delts look average. But his delts look good during a front/rear lat spread.
when started out and was moving up and getting better and bigger he had better waistline,,,
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Dorian looks like stone
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yes, thats a good way to go
forced reps i feel weaken me and are not effectiv at all
i don t even see the theorie behind this " let your partner do the work" reps
instead i of those i use rest pause reps to increase intensity and sometimes do some partial rpes to extend the set
Rest pause works very well! Glad you brought that up
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when started out and was moving up and getting better and bigger he had better waistline,,,
His waist was tight as hell in 91-92, the word "small" could have actually been used to describe it LOL!
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Yeah, but it depends on his poses. When he's just standing, you can notice his wide waist which make his delts look average. But his delts look good during a front/rear lat spread.
forget about this,.. just compare his shoulders to levrone's or nasser's in the most muscular pose.. not even close..
same with yates great back and calves they are mainly genetics and not because he was training like a beast.. otherwise why the rest of him was not the same level??..
and sure overall yates had some of the best genetics ever..
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Just look at how lean his face is. You don't see that much in todays pros.
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now we agree, not full full lockout, and not the same for every muscle.
triceps full lockout is ok.
agree
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Bloofy. Wouldn't even place top 6 nowadays.
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Heath & Kai = Superior
Evolution
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youre fucking tripping. yates would make heath and kai look like shit. yates in his 96 shape in the pics would easily win the olympia these days.
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dorian devoid of fat
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excellent quads here
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma96b4rmgk1ro08z3o1_500.jpg)
nice quad but sadly lats are high as burj al arab
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lats are higher than burj al arab
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youre fucking tripping. yates would make heath and kai look like shit. yates in his 96 shape in the pics would easily win the olympia these days.
AGREE 100% ^^.. Yates make's Heath and Kai look like shit and there's no to ways about it ....
Yates all the way just look at them pic's
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Dorian looks like stone
That is the craziest pic I have ever seen, wow insane, no one comes close, absolutely no one.
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nice quad but sadly lats are high as burj al arab
well he s prime example of a gym- , kitchen- or hotelroom-body
he looks like a beast there , like a athletic beast
his problems start if he steps on stage
then he fades big time
and he s so a terrible poser
good example for athletic developed legs without a overdeveloped ass and inner tights
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i do not agree on that.
yeah why is that?
always wondered.
the reason is, do partial reps and lazy training with a boatload of drugs, then your legs will mainly grow "unathletic" in the ass and inner area
do very hard leg workout with heavy weigt and full reps, then the actuall working part of the leg the quadrizeps will grow big
you answer what type of training todays bodybuilders are all about LOL
watch those btfo videos, do they even work legs anymore? phil heath going heavy on squats means 400 pouns for half reps, thats the weight for a 180lbs "classic" bodybuilder ::)
don t belive me , compare the shape of the legs of a olympic weightlifter to the shape of todays bodybuilders
this is also the reason why you can call people, bashing yates or even arnold for "small legs " compared to for example heath , COPLETE IDIOTS
yates did not have good seperation in the quads, but size was perfect, proportions were perfect
btw
reliing on too much on drugs instead of training creates those fugly bodys we see today
if you take so much drugs that everything grows in some way, not directly deending on how hard you train, then the bodybuilder is robbed his sculping tools
for example, bb has relatively narrow shoulders but tends to have a blocky midsection
in the old days the guy would work his shoulders hard so they grow more than his midsection (and the midsection not that hard to tay small) to give the llusion of mor v-taper
therefore he would take enog drugs to grow his shoulders, stimulated by the hard training , but not so much that his midsection grows extraordinary big, even without much ab-work for example
todays bodybuilder will inject tons of seo in his shoulder and pump them with this fst 7 shit or something , all light weight LOL
because he s on so much drugs that the attempt to "sculp" his different bodyparts into proportion won t work, becuase the massive drug abuse will grow everything out of proportion
i hope anyone gets what i mean
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Dorian looks like stone
This is the first Mr. O I bought on video back in 96. Dorian was dry as fuck. This pic destroys Heath, Kai, Ronnie and anyone else overall. The dryness is insane.
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forget about this,.. just compare his shoulders to levrone's or nasser's in the most muscular pose.. not even close..
same with yates great back and calves they are mainly genetics and not because he was training like a beast.. otherwise why the rest of him was not the same level??..
and sure overall yates had some of the best genetics ever..
I'm not a huge fan of Nasser's physique, other than his awesome '97 look, but you're right, he and Kev had way better delts. Other than that, Yates had way better legs, back development & conditioning(!), compared with these two, which are -IMO- a more important factors for a winning physique than having average delts, arms & chest.
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I'm not a huge fan of Nasser's physique, other than his awesome '97 look, but you're right, he and Kev had way better delts. Other than that, Yates had way better legs, back development & conditioning(!), compared with these two, which are -IMO- a more important factors for a winning physique than having average delts, arms & chest.
come on man,.. no way dorian's quads were better than nasser.. nasser's were bigger and harder.. dorian's calves were better for sure..
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Bloofy. Wouldn't even place top 6 nowadays.
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Heath & Kai = Superior
Evolution
(http://fitness.dwaynekilbourne.com/files/2012/10/Phil_Heath_Kai_Greene_Mr_Olympia.jpg)
Both Heath & Kai look like bags of shit in your comparison. How you can say Yates looks 'bloofy' in those shots is beyond me. When I scrolled to the bottom and saw the shot of Heath & Kai I laughed because I couldn't believe how pathetic they both looked compared to what I had just seen. Conditionwise they both look like Wheeler in the third shot from the bottom and 1996 was one of Flex's worst showings ever.
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Both Heath & Kai look like bags of shit in your comparison. How you can say Yates look 'bloofy' in those shots is beyond me. When I scrolled to the bottom and saw the shot of Heath & Kai I laughed because I couldn't believe how pathetic they both looked compared to what I had just seen.
i bet you giggled like a little girl.
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i bet you giggled like a little girl.
I bet I can lift more than you.
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I bet I can lift more than you.
i bet you're hung like like a light switch
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striations on the abs.crazy.
Yep don't see that everyday
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The reason why his delts may have appeared underdeveloped in comparison to his peers, is because Yates did not believe in depleting the worlds fossil fuel reserves. Very environmentally conscious
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Incredible shot. Bodybuilding has "de-evolved".
Yes, even people not into bodybuilding can see this.
(http://fitness.dwaynekilbourne.com/files/2012/10/Phil_Heath_Kai_Greene_Mr_Olympia.jpg)
These two clowns look like big black baby butts
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The reason why his delts may have appeared underdeveloped in comparison to his peers, is because Yates did not believe in depleting the worlds fossil fuel reserves. Very environmentally conscious
lol no man,.. even before anyone injected anything some of them had clearly bigger and more developed shoulders..
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lol no man,.. even before anyone injected anything some of them had clearly bigger and more developed shoulders..
such an apologist for nass even though he has come to rob your country of its ancient treasures.
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lol no man,.. even before anyone injected anything some of them had clearly bigger and more developed shoulders..
That is true
But while Yates did help propagate the slin/gh era to new levels, he did not partake in the seo use (not abuse yet) which was already happening during his reign(levrone, dillet, nasser, fux, flex, etc)as far as I can tell
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forget about this,.. just compare his shoulders to levrone's or nasser's in the most muscular pose.. not even close..
same with yates great back and calves they are mainly genetics and not because he was training like a beast.. otherwise why the rest of him was not the same level??..
and sure overall yates had some of the best genetics ever..
Dorian shoulder eat nasser's alive, not even close bro. Ya Nasser's shoulder where bigger but they had so much oil in them, no cuts, no hardness, smooth as butter, sorry bro but that is not bodybuilding, that is a disgraceful thing and judges penalized him for this.
So if anything the judges scored his shoulder against him unlike Dorians granite like hardness shoulders, now that is bodybuilding. Judges approve more of Dorians's shoulders then Nasser's so the bottom line is Dorian had better shoulders, how you even mention Nasser's shoulders is beyond me when half of his shoulder mass is oil.
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dorian destroys nasser in everything.everything.
lets sum up nasser:
oil shoulders
no back
blocky waist
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Calves, triceps, hamstrings, glutes, obliques, abs, forearms and hair ;D all go to Yates.
Conditioning, posing and quarter turns= Yates.
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Calves, triceps, hamstrings, glutes, obliques, abs, forearms and hair ;D all go to Yates.
Conditioning, posing and quarter turns= Yates.
And Yates looks people straight in the eye
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dorian destroys nasser in everything.everything.
lets sum up nasser:
oil shoulders
no back
blocky waist
bald
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Bloofy. Wouldn't even place top 6 nowadays.
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Heath & Kai = Superior
Evolution
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Wow, he looks like he is carved out of stone compared to the other two!
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Dorian shoulder eat nasser's alive, not even close bro. Ya Nasser's shoulder where bigger but they had so much oil in them, no cuts, no hardness, smooth as butter, sorry bro but that is not bodybuilding, that is a disgraceful thing and judges penalized him for this.
So if anything the judges scored his shoulder against him unlike Dorians granite like hardness shoulders, now that is bodybuilding. Judges approve more of Dorians's shoulders then Nasser's so the bottom line is Dorian had better shoulders, how you even mention Nasser's shoulders is beyond me when half of his shoulder mass is oil.
about which version of nasser you are talking about??.. nasser's shoulders in 95-97 were huge, hard, detailed, and, proportioned "3 heads"..
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Calves, triceps, hamstrings, glutes, obliques, abs, forearms and hair ;D all go to Yates.
Conditioning, posing and quarter turns= Yates.
nasser's hams were better "bigger and more detailed"..
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nasser is also a better grave robber.
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about which version of nasser you are talking about??.. nasser's shoulders in 95-97 were huge, hard, detailed, and, proportioned "3 heads"..
His best version still had boat loads of oil and Yates did not, they were never as hard as Yates's delts.
nasser's hams were better "bigger and more detailed"..
No way bro, Yates had granite Hams, deep vertical lines and his Hams dropped on the side shots.
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His best version still had boat loads of oil and Yates did not, they were never as hard as Yates's delts.
No way bro, Yates had granite Hams, deep vertical lines and his Hams dropped on the side shots.
no bro. and i bet you cant post any pic that proves your claims..
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no bro. and i bet you cant post any pic that proves your claims..
The pic above is enough ;)
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no bro. and i bet you cant post any pic that proves your claims..
Shawn Ray making Nasser's delts look like garbage. Nasser is soooo overrated by a small few. He had good quads, that's it.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=406639.0;attach=449053;image)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=40419&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
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Shawn Ray making Nasser's delts look like garbage. Nasser is soooo overrated by a small few. He had good quads, that's it.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=406639.0;attach=449053;image)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=40419&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
i mentioned many times his version of the 97 olympia was not close to his best.. check his delts in 96 olympia or 95 noc or AC 97..
overrated by few??.. lol this is why he and dorian were the most popular bbrs in the middle of the 90s..
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Nasser was a top bber then, very popular, lots of coverage
Sherief, did you become a fan because you admire his physique, as in you at some time wouldve liked to look like him, or you think that's a good body, or was it because of his heritage ?
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And Yates looks people straight in the eye
Nasser can look people straight in the eye too but that means he's not looking at them
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he can look in two peoples eye