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Title: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Marty Champions on October 23, 2013, 04:11:09 PM
a low fat diet where most of the carbs come from raw fruit, pairs, red and green apples, bananas , strawberries. i like to fry my plantains

i eat alot of brocollie fried before bed with little amount of oil i add in some soy sausage it has no fat but tons of taste

i may throw back a scoop of soy protien with fructose carbs in it 1 or 2 times a day

i get good sleep have tons of energy

i had to pretty much cut out peanutbutter, i was eating too much of that shit before like half jar a day atleast

sure its healthy but its impossible to muster up the energy needed to burn it off by the end of the day to the point where you caloric range IS not in a surplus. unless your job is to run on a treadmill all day, it isnt practical

that calorie is just a calorie bullshit diet only works when you dont want energy and your lifestyle is just sitting around all day at work and then you have your workout. i can see that diet working in that scenario

but if you want energy all day u need the 80c-10p-10f diet


Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Meaningless on October 23, 2013, 04:21:53 PM
The paleo diet = high energy healthy diet.
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Marty Champions on October 23, 2013, 04:23:33 PM
The paleo diet = high energy healthy diet.
everyone does a paleo diet, most just eat meat and some fiber one and call it a day and tell people they are superior
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Wolfox on October 23, 2013, 04:39:33 PM
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 23, 2013, 04:45:44 PM
everyone does a paleo diet, most just eat meat and some fiber one and call it a day and tell people they are superior

Thats not me. 
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Powerlift66 on October 23, 2013, 04:51:27 PM
I dont follow any diet, but when I look at what I eat, it mostly seems like Mediterranean diet. (Italy).

Fish, salads, chicken, olive oil, wine, little bit of heme iron meat (very little), some beer, eggs...

salads first, with olives, feta, olive oil dressing, tuna fish...

The some chicken (once a week red meat) on weekends, 2 cheat days. Beer, Wine, Pizza Wings...

Start over on MON... Not a bodybuilder (its too gay) and I like to eat.

Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 23, 2013, 04:53:05 PM
Fruit is "teh shit".  Lol at anybody avoiding it in lieu of inferior grains, to "avoid fructose"
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 23, 2013, 04:54:40 PM
Mostly chicken, veggies, grains and beer. 
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Borracho on October 23, 2013, 04:59:22 PM
a low fat diet where most of the carbs come from raw fruit, pairs, red and green apples, bananas , strawberries. i like to fry my plantains

i eat alot of brocollie fried before bed with little amount of oil i add in some soy sausage it has no fat but tons of taste

i may throw back a scoop of soy protien with fructose carbs in it 1 or 2 times a day

i get good sleep have tons of energy

i had to pretty much cut out peanutbutter, i was eating too much of that shit before like half jar a day atleast

sure its healthy but its impossible to muster up the energy needed to burn it off by the end of the day to the point where you caloric range IS not in a surplus. unless your job is to run on a treadmill all day, it isnt practical

that calorie is just a calorie bullshit diet only works when you dont want energy and your lifestyle is just sitting around all day at work and then you have your workout. i can see that diet working in that scenario

but if you want energy all day u need the 80c-10p-10f diet




How many calories per pound of body weight do you suggest to obtain a healthy physique such as yours?

30?
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Marty Champions on October 23, 2013, 05:07:50 PM
How many calories per pound of body weight do you suggest to obtain a healthy physique such as yours?

30?

i forgot to mention ill probably have a sliced very thinly a sweet potatoe and a regular white potato too

very little oil on it and baked

lets see i had 2 green apples 1 banana 1 red apple 1 red pair 1 white potato 1sweet potato , 1 tiny bowl of cereal, 2 protien scoops , 2 cans of feild peas 600 calories so far today and morning star chicken nuggets dipped in bbq sauce 500 calories (this is my treat)

so thats
160
80
100
100
100
100
200
230
600
500


2970 calories

i may have some cooked brocolli with soy sausage before bed helps me sleep nice and cozy so mayb 3100 at a bodyweight of 282

Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Borracho on October 23, 2013, 05:14:24 PM
If that's what all you're eating at your bodyweight than its surprisingly lower than I thought. You should lose weight on that...

btw I think I have an ear infection bro what should I take?

I heard apple cider vinegar is good for that but I don't know...
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Marty Champions on October 23, 2013, 05:23:38 PM
If that's what all you're eating at your bodyweight than its surprisingly lower than I thought. You should lose weight on that...

btw I think I have an ear infection bro what should I take?

I heard apple cider vinegar is good for that but I don't know...

that sucks problems with the ear can be excruciating, i had water in my ear from swimming damn that was painful

also when i smoked weed i had so much ear wax in one ear i went deaf for a few days

anyways back to your problem, just eat healthy to make sure your not contributing to the problem in any way

definitly try some sort of medicated ear drops
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Borracho on October 23, 2013, 05:28:07 PM
that sucks problems with the ear can be excruciating, i had water in my ear from swimming damn that was painful

also when i smoked weed i had so much ear wax in one ear i went deaf for a few days

anyways back to your problem, just eat healthy to make sure your not contributing to the problem in any way

definitly try some sort of medicated ear drops

Can't be going deaf on us so you can keep banging out those tunes.

Reminds me of this movie though...

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTY0OTY2MzMyN15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzE5NTgyMQ@@._V1_SX214_.jpg)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388139/

Should check it out if you haven't already.

And I don't know why you like soy protein bro you should get some fish at least instead of that and the chicken nuggers.
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Marty Champions on October 23, 2013, 05:33:02 PM
Can't be going deaf on us so you can keep banging out those tunes.

Reminds me of this movie though...

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTY0OTY2MzMyN15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzE5NTgyMQ@@._V1_SX214_.jpg)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388139/

Should check it out if you haven't already.

And I don't know why you like soy protein bro you should get some fish at least instead of that and the chicken nuggers.
the chicken blacks are soy protien too man

very tasty yeah i hadnt had that deaf thing happen since i stopped smoking weed about 5 and a half years ago. damn time flys!
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Borracho on October 23, 2013, 05:41:58 PM
the chicken guys are soy protien too man

very tasty yeah i hadnt had that deaf thing happen since i stopped smoking weed about 5 and a half years ago. damn time flys!

I can't believe how fast this years blown by...

we're almost in november  :-\
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: the trainer on October 23, 2013, 05:57:37 PM
a low fat diet where most of the carbs come from raw fruit, pairs, red and green apples, bananas , strawberries. i like to fry my plantains

i eat alot of brocollie fried before bed with little amount of oil i add in some soy sausage it has no fat but tons of taste

i may throw back a scoop of soy protien with fructose carbs in it 1 or 2 times a day

i get good sleep have tons of energy

i had to pretty much cut out peanutbutter, i was eating too much of that shit before like half jar a day atleast

sure its healthy but its impossible to muster up the energy needed to burn it off by the end of the day to the point where you caloric range IS not in a surplus. unless your job is to run on a treadmill all day, it isnt practical

that calorie is just a calorie bullshit diet only works when you dont want energy and your lifestyle is just sitting around all day at work and then you have your workout. i can see that diet working in that scenario

but if you want energy all day u need the 80c-10p-10f diet




You hit like a vegetarian.
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: The Revelation on October 23, 2013, 06:37:10 PM


its not the food, of types of food. tis the cals.

if you eat less cals you'll feel better. im not talking eating 2k cal i mean a real cal deficit.

we overeat. then we have a tendency to blame the foods or types of foods for the way we 'feel' when in fact its the amounts of food we are eating.

eat your peanut butter and whatever else you like and keep your cals around 1200 for three days. you'll notice a huge difference in your energy levels, and your mental wellbeing.
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Marty Champions on October 23, 2013, 07:46:23 PM

its not the food, of types of food. tis the cals.

if you eat less cals you'll feel better. im not talking eating 2k cal i mean a real cal deficit.

we overeat. then we have a tendency to blame the foods or types of foods for the way we 'feel' when in fact its the amounts of food we are eating.

eat your peanut butter and whatever else you like and keep your cals around 1200 for three days. you'll notice a huge difference in your energy levels, and your mental wellbeing.
if i were to follow that advice id crash so hard at work id have to take a couple days off from work
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: WOOO on October 23, 2013, 07:55:49 PM
a low fat diet where most of the carbs come from raw fruit, pairs, red and green apples, bananas , strawberries. i like to fry my plantains

i eat alot of brocollie fried before bed with little amount of oil i add in some soy sausage it has no fat but tons of taste

i may throw back a scoop of soy protien with fructose carbs in it 1 or 2 times a day

i get good sleep have tons of energy

i had to pretty much cut out peanutbutter, i was eating too much of that shit before like half jar a day atleast

sure its healthy but its impossible to muster up the energy needed to burn it off by the end of the day to the point where you caloric range IS not in a surplus. unless your job is to run on a treadmill all day, it isnt practical

that calorie is just a calorie bullshit diet only works when you dont want energy and your lifestyle is just sitting around all day at work and then you have your workout. i can see that diet working in that scenario

but if you want energy all day u need the 80c-10p-10f diet





DEATH
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 23, 2013, 08:16:09 PM

its not the food, of types of food. tis the cals.

if you eat less cals you'll feel better. im not talking eating 2k cal i mean a real cal deficit.

we overeat. then we have a tendency to blame the foods or types of foods for the way we 'feel' when in fact its the amounts of food we are eating.

eat your peanut butter and whatever else you like and keep your cals around 1200 for three days. you'll notice a huge difference in your energy levels, and your mental wellbeing.

Would you mind expanding on this?

I've noticed the same thing, I feel much more 'light' and energetic when i fast or consume very little calories.  Digestion is a big chunk of our BMR and if our digestive tract doesnt have much to do, that should (theoretically) free up energy for other activities
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: The Revelation on October 23, 2013, 10:43:18 PM
if i were to follow that advice id crash so hard at work id have to take a couple days off from work

i think you'd be surprised mr falcon.
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: The Revelation on October 23, 2013, 10:53:51 PM
Would you mind expanding on this?

I've noticed the same thing, I feel much more 'light' and energetic when i fast or consume very little calories.  Digestion is a big chunk of our BMR and if our digestive tract doesnt have much to do, that should (theoretically) free up energy for other activities

sure.

the body needs surprisingly little calories for fuel.  what we do is overfeed it. thats what makes us sluggish.

think of this. communal buddhist monks eat very little food. spartan diets. they work in fields all day/ farm. then they meditate. how? wheres their energy come from. from their body becoming ultra efficient at using the calories it gives them, as opposed to piling on fat with them, and shitting it out. think about how many unnecessary cals it would take for the body to accumulate fat, and still have waste. no wonder people are tired all the time.

have you ever noticed you become slightly depressed some days? im not talking mentally. just lazy, distant, uncommunicative, withdrawn, and tired? people say oh its just the weather, oh i havent had my coffee. then think about how much you ate the day before, not the foods persay or types of foods but your entire caloric intake for that day.

you'll be amazed and shocked to see a distinct correlation between the amount of cals you ingested the day before, and your mood/ energy the next day if you track it. higher cals= depressed mood. in fact a lot of people who go to their docs for anti depressants would never think to look at their food intake, not the TYPES but the amounts as the basis for their depression.

in fact i'll go one step further and venture to guess that what aids a monks meditative state is the fact they eat very little food.
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Primemuscle on October 23, 2013, 10:57:35 PM
a low fat diet where most of the carbs come from raw fruit, pairs, red and green apples, bananas , strawberries. i like to fry my plantains

i eat alot of brocollie fried before bed with little amount of oil i add in some soy sausage it has no fat but tons of taste

i may throw back a scoop of soy protien with fructose carbs in it 1 or 2 times a day

i get good sleep have tons of energy

i had to pretty much cut out peanutbutter, i was eating too much of that shit before like half jar a day atleast

sure its healthy but its impossible to muster up the energy needed to burn it off by the end of the day to the point where you caloric range IS not in a surplus. unless your job is to run on a treadmill all day, it isnt practical

that calorie is just a calorie bullshit diet only works when you dont want energy and your lifestyle is just sitting around all day at work and then you have your workout. i can see that diet working in that scenario

but if you want energy all day u need the 80c-10p-10f diet




I get the impression that whatever crazy diet your on at any given time, you have a tendency to overeat. You'd be surprised at how little food it takes to sustain life and produce enough energy to work and even exercise and stay in shape. For example, peanut butter is fine to eat, especially unadulterated peanut butter and not the brands with added sugar like Skippy, as long as you keep to sensible portions and vary your diet so you're not just eating peanut butter.

I eat very little and I have loads of energy all the time. For people who struggle with obesity, a calorie is a calorie. Calories from sugars, whether natural or refined are great short term energy producers, but they also have a downside, which is low energy when the sugar high wears off.

I am not advocating starving oneself to lose weight because that simply won't work. Eventually, you'll cave to cravings and the abundance available to fill them. When you do, your body stores fat because you've taught it that there will be feast and famine. Better to eat sensibly all the time. Lots of vegetarians accomplish this and with loads of energy to carry on a normal life.

Some of us are meat eaters. I am one of those folks. I am not going to give it up. This doesn't mean I think you should go back to it either.
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 24, 2013, 01:21:26 AM
Keep the peanut butter in but limit the amount, I have eaten it all my life and never been fat. Just a couple of tablespoons in the morning will give you a little long chain energy for the day then maybe a couple after work. Seems you have replaced huge amounts of peanut butter with fruits which is a calorie reduction plus the running has brought you down to 282 keep the ball rolling down hill Falcon.
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Marty Champions on October 24, 2013, 03:21:45 PM
Keep the peanut butter in but limit the amount, I have eaten it all my life and never been fat. Just a couple of tablespoons in the morning will give you a little long chain energy for the day then maybe a couple after work. Seems you have replaced huge amounts of peanut butter with fruits which is a calorie reduction plus the running has brought you down to 282 keep the ball rolling down hill Falcon.
i had 2 tb of peanutbutter at lunch time helped a great deal

alot of these guys say "hey i have great energy all day by eating very little because u need very little to sustain life"

when i hear primemuscle say that or someother poster i know they are a bit delusional

you cant have "high energy" eating "very little" standing and painting all day. this is so retarted when people claim this "high energy" sitting around and chatting there faces off in a highly charged energitic highly feminine euphoria
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Primemuscle on October 24, 2013, 03:35:19 PM
i had 2 tb of peanutbutter at lunch time helped a great deal

alot of these guys say "hey i have great energy all day by eating very little because u need very little to sustain life"

when i hear primemuscle say that or someother poster i know they are a bit delusional

you cant have "high energy" eating "very little" standing and painting all day. this is so retarted when people claim this "high energy" sitting around and chatting there faces off in a highly charged energitic highly feminine euphoria

Let me remind you that my father was a painting contractor. I worked with him as a painter. I have some idea how much energy it takes to be a house painter. Not only that, but I was in my teens and twenties when we worked together, my metabolism was on fire. Never-the-less, it did not take enormous quantities of food to provide the energy I needed to knock out a 2 bedroom apartment in 5 to 6 hours. Contrary to your suggestion, I am not delusional.

Before I retired, I was on my feet and not standing but moving for most of every workday. Granted my metabolism had slowed down by then, thank goodness. But I ate light and I ate often, usually about 5 small meals a day. Even as an old man, I had plenty of energy to do my job for 8 hours and then hit the gym for another 90 minutes of weight training. Granted, I didn't and don't do a lot of cardio. This is simply because I find it boring and not because I lack energy.

I like you and I think you have a lot of interesting diet ideas, Falcon. I also think you make too much noise about how hard you work and how much energy it takes which requires you to eat vast amounts of food. When you lose some of those extra pounds you've acquired, your energy levels will undoubtedly improve a lot. If it doesn't then you must have something wrong with you and you should get checked out by your doctor.

Maybe it is you who is delusional, Falcon....just saying.
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Marty Champions on October 24, 2013, 03:47:39 PM
Let me remind you that my father was a painting contractor. I worked with him as a painter. I have some idea how much energy it takes to be a house painter. Not only that, but I was in my teens and twenties when we worked together, my metabolism was on fire. Never-the-less, it did not take enormous quantities of food to provide the energy I needed to knock out a 2 bedroom apartment in 5 to 6 hours. Contrary to your suggestion, I am not delusional.

Before I retired, I was on my feet and not standing but moving for most of every workday. Granted my metabolism had slowed down by then, thank goodness. But I ate light and I ate often, usually about 5 small meals a day. Even as an old man, I had plenty of energy to do my job for 8 hours and then hit the gym for another 90 minutes of weight training. Granted, I didn't and don't do a lot of cardio. This is simply because I find it boring and not because I lack energy.

I like you and I think you have a lot of interesting diet ideas, Falcon. I also think you make too much noise about how hard you work and how much energy it takes which requires you to eat vast amounts of food. When you lose some of those extra pounds you've acquired, your energy levels will undoubtedly improve a lot. If it doesn't then you must have something wrong with you and you should get checked out by your doctor.

Maybe it is you who is delusional, Falcon....just saying.

anyone eating meat can have alot of energy . one big steak will keep you going all day with coffee or a soda and a candybar, i remember this all the time being on construction sites

but thats unhealthy ,

but i guess now i get why you claim to have so much energy all day not eating much is because you eat meat and its effects stays in the blood and  gut much longer

i guess from my experiences meat eaters do not do quality work . maybe you do but for the most part people might do higher quality work eating differently


Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: The Revelation on October 24, 2013, 04:04:46 PM
i had 2 tb of peanutbutter at lunch time helped a great deal

alot of these guys say "hey i have great energy all day by eating very little because u need very little to sustain life"

when i hear primemuscle say that or someother poster i know they are a bit delusional

you cant have "high energy" eating "very little" standing and painting all day. this is so retarted when people claim this "high energy" sitting around and chatting there faces off in a highly charged energitic highly feminine euphoria

so you've tried to eat 1000-1200 cals for 3 straight days and took note of how good you felt on the 3rd day? your basing your opinion on experience?

no, you're not.

yes, its almost as retarded as refuting something by saying 'its retarded' when you have never tried it.

i tried to give you solid advise. up to you to take it.
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Rudee on October 24, 2013, 04:09:32 PM
most of the carbs come from raw fruit





Aw, c'mon.  I prefer all my fruit cooked. 
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Primemuscle on October 24, 2013, 04:14:06 PM
anyone eating meat can have alot of energy . one big steak will keep you going all day with coffee or a soda and a candybar, i remember this all the time being on construction sites

but thats unhealthy ,

but i guess now i get why you claim to have so much energy all day not eating much is because you eat meat and its effects stays in the blood and  gut much longer

i guess from my experiences meat eaters do not do quality work . maybe you do but for the most part people might do higher quality work eating differently




I haven't had one ounce of meat to eat today. I had cereal with milk and juice for breakfast and four cheese Taquitos  with salsa for lunch. I haven't even had any coffee or tea today and my energy level is fine. Going out to dinner tonight, so what I eat will depend on the menu....maybe some meat or maybe fish. I am particularly fond of shell fish when it is fixed right.

Your suggestion that meat eaters produce sub-quality work is utter nonsense. What do you base this on? The folks you hire to help you? There are many reasons folks do sub-quality work, eating meat is not likely one of them. Incidentally, when I was in my 30's I worked with a painting contractor who only did high end work in Portland. Trust me there was nothing sub-quality about any of the painting he and I did when we worked together, quite the opposite

My daughter is a vegetarian. She has tons of energy all the time.

Falcon, you are too young to develop a closed mind about diet. No one is telling you to eat meat. There is no reason anyone would do that. It is no skin off our backs if you are a vegetarian. Everything I commented about is a result of reading your posts about your diet. Perhaps you just can't see it as others do or you actually don't eat like you say you do. 
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 24, 2013, 05:02:21 PM
Johhny has lost around 50lbs so he must be on some kind of right track. Losing fat is much as a snowball rolling down hill once it stalls out you got just barely get it going again nothing drastic but just get it rolling. Too drastic it will stall and you won't get it moving then frustration sets in and you will say to hell with it.
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Marty Champions on October 24, 2013, 06:16:32 PM
I haven't had one ounce of meat to eat today. I had cereal with milk and juice for breakfast and four cheese Taquitos  with salsa for lunch. I haven't even had any coffee or tea today and my energy level is fine. Going out to dinner tonight, so what I eat will depend on the menu....maybe some meat or maybe fish. I am particularly fond of shell fish when it is fixed right.

Your suggestion that meat eaters produce sub-quality work is utter nonsense. What do you base this on? The folks you hire to help you? There are many reasons folks do sub-quality work, eating meat is not likely one of them. Incidentally, when I was in my 30's I worked with a painting contractor who only did high end work in Portland. Trust me there was nothing sub-quality about any of the painting he and I did when we worked together, quite the opposite

My daughter is a vegetarian. She has tons of energy all the time.

Falcon, you are too young to develop a closed mind about diet. No one is telling you to eat meat. There is no reason anyone would do that. It is no skin off our backs if you are a vegetarian. Everything I commented about is a result of reading your posts about your diet. Perhaps you just can't see it as others do or you actually don't eat like you say you do. 

huh???

u realize the effects of meat carry over into the next day right?

you didnt say anything in that post that was worthwhile to the argument big guy

you may have been an exception (being a hardworker eating meat i didnt say you werent deke)

however it NEEDS to be documented if these slack ass workers would turn into better workers if they didnt adhere to the tired meat diets in wich they produce sub par work from it

Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Marty Champions on October 24, 2013, 06:17:09 PM
Johhny has lost around 50lbs so he must be on some kind of right track. Losing fat is much as a snowball rolling down hill once it stalls out you got just barely get it going again nothing drastic but just get it rolling. Too drastic it will stall and you won't get it moving then frustration sets in and you will say to hell with it.

yeah im just taking it easy but consistent
Title: Re: the only diet that works and allows for high energy and to be healthy is
Post by: Primemuscle on October 24, 2013, 10:49:05 PM
huh???

u realize the effects of meat carry over into the next day right?

you didnt say anything in that post that was worthwhile to the argument big guy

you may have been an exception (being a hardworker eating meat i didnt say you werent deke)

however it NEEDS to be documented if these slack ass workers would turn into better workers if they didnt adhere to the tired meat diets in wich they produce sub par work from it



And do you realize that it is a know fact that meat takes more energy to digest then vegetables do. Therefore plant based diets are good energy producers. However, it is more difficult to get enough protein from plant based diets as plants are lower in protein. Protein builds muscle. It does not provide energy.

You can argue with me all you like. I don't claim to be an expert, but clearly you aren't either. The advantage I have is that with my wife being diabetic, I've l learned a lot more about diet from the experts then some people who don't understand that what you eat can make a difference between living and dying for some people.

You contention that meat eaters produce subpar work is not based on fact, it is your opinion and quite frankly, you are biased. Moreover, you are the one complaining about a lack of energy which suggests that your production may not be what it should be. Whether it is reflected in quality or quantity of work output, only you and those who pay you to work would know.

You are right about one thing. If you can prove that meat eaters in general produce less or less quality, you need to document this in a very scientific way since there is currently no documentation to suggest you are even remotely right about this.